Re: What ever happened to LC blockchain?
Hmmm. Currently LC will integrate with any blockchain that has a REST api. For those that don't have rest (most of them) we'll need websockets, or use livecode to build the interface for something running on NODE.js or something like it. Third option is to use something like GO, RUST or V to build a small client that will talk to the blockchain for and then you talk to that process with LC. PM me if you have a specific use case that you need it for, I've done a lot more research into blockchains. Cheers On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 3:34 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Rick Harrison wrote: > > > Hi Richard, > > > > I just read an article about Ethereum, and smart contracts. > > > > How one would approach this with LiveCode would be > > an interesting topic, although it does raise some questions. > > > All good questions, which is why I was quick to note that I have no > interest in speculative psuedo-currency applications. > > At the moment I'm mostly interesting in finding ways to use tokens to > certify different stages of participation in scavenger hunt games for > live events. Some of these events have global secondary audiences, so a > token with decentralized availability and inherent authentication has > some utility. > > What is your interest that prompted you to introduce this thread? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > > > > > For example: Assume that someone writes an app > > like a game, that is stored as a smart contract. Although > > it is decentralized, future obsolescence of hardware > > and software, will eventually make the game > > obsolete too. Then it’s just trash data slowing > > down blockchain transactions. Does that make > > sense? > > > > The article I read also discussed CrytoKitties > > which I would say is the same as NFT artwork. > > > > I don’t see much value in that kind of artwork. > > > > There is also speculation that the reason some > > of this artwork has sold for large sums of money > > is because it is being used by criminal elements > > to conduct money laundering. That of course > > falsely makes the currency seem that it must > > have some real value, that fools others into > > investing in it. > > > > There has to be a better way to implement > > such ideas. > > > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > Thanks for your replies! > > > > Rick > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What ever happened to LC blockchain?
Rick Harrison wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I just read an article about Ethereum, and smart contracts. > > How one would approach this with LiveCode would be > an interesting topic, although it does raise some questions. All good questions, which is why I was quick to note that I have no interest in speculative psuedo-currency applications. At the moment I'm mostly interesting in finding ways to use tokens to certify different stages of participation in scavenger hunt games for live events. Some of these events have global secondary audiences, so a token with decentralized availability and inherent authentication has some utility. What is your interest that prompted you to introduce this thread? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems > For example: Assume that someone writes an app > like a game, that is stored as a smart contract. Although > it is decentralized, future obsolescence of hardware > and software, will eventually make the game > obsolete too. Then it’s just trash data slowing > down blockchain transactions. Does that make > sense? > > The article I read also discussed CrytoKitties > which I would say is the same as NFT artwork. > > I don’t see much value in that kind of artwork. > > There is also speculation that the reason some > of this artwork has sold for large sums of money > is because it is being used by criminal elements > to conduct money laundering. That of course > falsely makes the currency seem that it must > have some real value, that fools others into > investing in it. > > There has to be a better way to implement > such ideas. > > Just my 2 cents. > > Thanks for your replies! > > Rick ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ChatGPT
A Twitter thread with ChatGPT botsplaining how 77 is a prime number: https://twitter.com/bellafusari1/status/1603161415678046208 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ChatGPT
for another dev tool that we use, i have yet to get it to propose anything that even resembles the proper syntax. On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 10:27 AM harrison--- via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I tried using ChatGPT just to see how good or bad it might be > at writing LiveCode programs. > > It looked really cool when it generated the code, and at first I was > all excited about it. Upon closer inspection it became clear that > it was really bad code. Lots of syntax errors, a bunch of > logic errors, and a lot of run-time errors. I spent a couple hours > trying to debug it, and finally decided it wasn’t worth my time, as > I was having to rewrite a lot of it. > > My conclusion, ChatGPT won’t be replacing programmers for a very > long time. It really was like searching Google without using > Google. It seemed to be pulling code snippets from various > sources however, so I’m unconvinced that it is just using its own > database. > > It’s probably Ok as a chatbot, but I didn’t try out that functionality, > so I can’t say for sure. > > Just my 2 cents for the day. > > Rick > > > On Dec 15, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > That's a good read. > > > >> On Dec 15, 2022, at 07:43 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >> Another perspective on ChatGPT: > https://www.sciencealert.com/chatgpt-could-revolutionize-the-internet-but-its-secrets-have-experts-worried > >> > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: krampus is coming
i'm not disappointed. i'm just wondering if i heard wrongly. On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 10:11 AM harrison--- via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > So, wait until 11:59pm of 12/24/2022 before becoming disappointed? ;-) > > Rick > > > On Dec 17, 2022, at 7:01 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > we were supposed to get a new 10 dp before 12/25 > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ChatGPT
I tried using ChatGPT just to see how good or bad it might be at writing LiveCode programs. It looked really cool when it generated the code, and at first I was all excited about it. Upon closer inspection it became clear that it was really bad code. Lots of syntax errors, a bunch of logic errors, and a lot of run-time errors. I spent a couple hours trying to debug it, and finally decided it wasn’t worth my time, as I was having to rewrite a lot of it. My conclusion, ChatGPT won’t be replacing programmers for a very long time. It really was like searching Google without using Google. It seemed to be pulling code snippets from various sources however, so I’m unconvinced that it is just using its own database. It’s probably Ok as a chatbot, but I didn’t try out that functionality, so I can’t say for sure. Just my 2 cents for the day. Rick > On Dec 15, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > That's a good read. > >> On Dec 15, 2022, at 07:43 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Another perspective on ChatGPT: >> https://www.sciencealert.com/chatgpt-could-revolutionize-the-internet-but-its-secrets-have-experts-worried >> > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: krampus is coming
So, wait until 11:59pm of 12/24/2022 before becoming disappointed? ;-) Rick > On Dec 17, 2022, at 7:01 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode > wrote: > > we were supposed to get a new 10 dp before 12/25 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
