Re: Hunting Default Preferences

2023-05-07 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
That’s what I was looking for - the location of the LC preference file.
Actually Randy Hengst wisely advised me that the View menu has a toggle for the 
backdrop. . .DUH!
Thanks,
Jerry

> On May 7, 2023, at 2:58 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jerry,
> 
> did you already try to delete the LC preference file?
> 
> The function revEnvironmentUserPreferencesPath()
> returns the path to the preferences file.
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 07.05.2023 um 23:39 schrieb Jerry Jensen via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I am returning to LiveCode after a spell of other projects, including 
>> debugging others’ LC code.
>> 
>> I find myself with a predicament - on launch of LC (no stack, just the LC 
>> app) I get a backdrop of off-white when I need none.
>> I have no idea how this got changed (never underestimate fatfingers).
>> There is probably a preference file somewhere that will let me change it 
>> back to the way it was (none) but I can’t seem to find it. 
>> I have looked everywhere that seems reasonable, but that is clearly not 
>> enough.
>> 
>> Its easy enough to put:
>> set the backdrop to none
>> in each mainstack opencard handler, but that is annoying at best.
>> 
>> Where should I look?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jerry Jensen
>> M1 MacBook Pro, OS 13.3.1 LC 9.6.9
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Re: Hunting Default Preferences

2023-05-07 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
Oh that is TOO easy. No wonder I couldn’t find it!
Onward!
Thanks,
Jerry

> On May 7, 2023, at 3:03 PM, Randy Hengst via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> You should be able to go to the View menu and toggle off backdrop.
> 
> take care,
> randy
> 
>> On May 7, 2023, at 4:58 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jerry,
>> 
>> did you already try to delete the LC preference file?
>> 
>> The function revEnvironmentUserPreferencesPath()
>> returns the path to the preferences file.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 07.05.2023 um 23:39 schrieb Jerry Jensen via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I am returning to LiveCode after a spell of other projects, including 
>>> debugging others’ LC code.
>>> 
>>> I find myself with a predicament - on launch of LC (no stack, just the LC 
>>> app) I get a backdrop of off-white when I need none.
>>> I have no idea how this got changed (never underestimate fatfingers).
>>> There is probably a preference file somewhere that will let me change it 
>>> back to the way it was (none) but I can’t seem to find it. 
>>> I have looked everywhere that seems reasonable, but that is clearly not 
>>> enough.
>>> 
>>> Its easy enough to put:
>>> set the backdrop to none
>>> in each mainstack opencard handler, but that is annoying at best.
>>> 
>>> Where should I look?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Jerry Jensen
>>> M1 MacBook Pro, OS 13.3.1 LC 9.6.9
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Re: Hunting Default Preferences

2023-05-07 Thread Randy Hengst via use-livecode
You should be able to go to the View menu and toggle off backdrop.

take care,
randy

> On May 7, 2023, at 4:58 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jerry,
> 
> did you already try to delete the LC preference file?
> 
> The function revEnvironmentUserPreferencesPath()
> returns the path to the preferences file.
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 07.05.2023 um 23:39 schrieb Jerry Jensen via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I am returning to LiveCode after a spell of other projects, including 
>> debugging others’ LC code.
>> 
>> I find myself with a predicament - on launch of LC (no stack, just the LC 
>> app) I get a backdrop of off-white when I need none.
>> I have no idea how this got changed (never underestimate fatfingers).
>> There is probably a preference file somewhere that will let me change it 
>> back to the way it was (none) but I can’t seem to find it. 
>> I have looked everywhere that seems reasonable, but that is clearly not 
>> enough.
>> 
>> Its easy enough to put:
>> set the backdrop to none
>> in each mainstack opencard handler, but that is annoying at best.
>> 
>> Where should I look?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jerry Jensen
>> M1 MacBook Pro, OS 13.3.1 LC 9.6.9
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Re: Hunting Default Preferences

2023-05-07 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Jerry,

did you already try to delete the LC preference file?

The function revEnvironmentUserPreferencesPath()
returns the path to the preferences file.



> Am 07.05.2023 um 23:39 schrieb Jerry Jensen via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I am returning to LiveCode after a spell of other projects, including 
> debugging others’ LC code.
> 
> I find myself with a predicament - on launch of LC (no stack, just the LC 
> app) I get a backdrop of off-white when I need none.
> I have no idea how this got changed (never underestimate fatfingers).
> There is probably a preference file somewhere that will let me change it back 
> to the way it was (none) but I can’t seem to find it. 
> I have looked everywhere that seems reasonable, but that is clearly not 
> enough.
> 
> Its easy enough to put:
> set the backdrop to none
> in each mainstack opencard handler, but that is annoying at best.
> 
> Where should I look?
> 
> Regards,
> Jerry Jensen
> M1 MacBook Pro, OS 13.3.1 LC 9.6.9
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Hunting Default Preferences

2023-05-07 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
Hi folks,

I am returning to LiveCode after a spell of other projects, including debugging 
others’ LC code.

I find myself with a predicament - on launch of LC (no stack, just the LC app) 
I get a backdrop of off-white when I need none.
I have no idea how this got changed (never underestimate fatfingers).
There is probably a preference file somewhere that will let me change it back 
to the way it was (none) but I can’t seem to find it. 
I have looked everywhere that seems reasonable, but that is clearly not enough.

Its easy enough to put:
set the backdrop to none
in each mainstack opencard handler, but that is annoying at best.

Where should I look?

Regards,
Jerry Jensen
M1 MacBook Pro, OS 13.3.1 LC 9.6.9
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Re: Default cursor

2023-05-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 5/7/23 2:32 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
So, reading the dictionary entry for "reset cursors" it looks like you can't create your own 
set, you can only change the built-in set.


I changed the arrow cursor in the revMacCursors stack, saved, and relaunched LC. It still shows 
the arrow, which I assume is the system arrow. So, no go.


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Re: Default cursor

2023-05-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
So, reading the dictionary entry for "reset cursors" it looks like you 
can't create your own set, you can only change the built-in set. The 
problem with that is that I will not have an arrow any more, no matter what 
I'm working on. I'll always get the custom cursor, even though I only want 
it to appear in one project. It sounds like there is no other option though.

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On May 7, 2023 2:18:32 PM "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" 
 wrote:



I have an imported image to use as a custom cursor and it works. But I'm
not sure how to create a custom cursor set. Maybe I can just replace the
arrow in the built-in set. Or maybe a set is just a stack? That's what the
revCursors are.

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On May 7, 2023 1:03:20 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode
 wrote:


I just did a quick test.
I downloaded a svg from Font Awesome website and imported it using "Import
as Control -> image file " from file menu.
After that i could access that image and set the cursor to it.
But you have to resize the image to your preferred size either after
importing or at least before using it as a cursor.

HTH

Matthias


Am 07.05.2023 um 19:32 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
:

I suppose I could create a custom cursor set and replace the arrow with the
custom cursor. LC does recover from "none" if a default cursor isn't set.
I've never done a custom cursor set though so if anyone else has, I'd
appreciate any tips.
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On May 6, 2023 8:23:57 PM scott--- via use-livecode
 wrote:


Yeah, an interesting clue but not much of a workaround. Does this happen in
a standalone or is it an IDE only issue…? (30 seconds later) Ick!
Standalone, too and there seems to be even fewer things to interact with to
get the cursor back. Clicking the menuBar works.
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On May 6, 2023, at 4:15 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
 wrote:

On 5/6/23 4:23 PM, scott--- via use-livecode wrote:

I’m getting the same thing. Putting the “none” cursor over the tool pallet
gets the tools to hilite… but no cursor. Moving the “none” cursor to the
message box (I started with it over an empty stack window) causes the
“hand" cursor to establish without any additional scripting.
LC 9.6.9 stable  MBP M2Pro Ventura13.3.1(a)


Thanks. I've found if you swipe the mouse over the script editor, or the
dock, or another window it comes back. Basically, sweep the mouse
erratically all over the screen until it hits something it recognizes. But
I can't expect users to do that.

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Re: Default cursor

2023-05-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I have an imported image to use as a custom cursor and it works. But I'm 
not sure how to create a custom cursor set. Maybe I can just replace the 
arrow in the built-in set. Or maybe a set is just a stack? That's what the 
revCursors are.


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On May 7, 2023 1:03:20 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I just did a quick test.
I downloaded a svg from Font Awesome website and imported it using "Import 
as Control -> image file " from file menu.

After that i could access that image and set the cursor to it.
But you have to resize the image to your preferred size either after 
importing or at least before using it as a cursor.


HTH

Matthias

Am 07.05.2023 um 19:32 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
:


I suppose I could create a custom cursor set and replace the arrow with the 
custom cursor. LC does recover from "none" if a default cursor isn't set. 
I've never done a custom cursor set though so if anyone else has, I'd 
appreciate any tips.

--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On May 6, 2023 8:23:57 PM scott--- via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Yeah, an interesting clue but not much of a workaround. Does this happen in 
a standalone or is it an IDE only issue…? (30 seconds later) Ick! 
Standalone, too and there seems to be even fewer things to interact with to 
get the cursor back. Clicking the menuBar works.

--
Scott Morrow

Elementary Software
(Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
web   https://elementarysoftware.com/
email sc...@elementarysoftware.com
booth1-360-734-4701
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On May 6, 2023, at 4:15 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


On 5/6/23 4:23 PM, scott--- via use-livecode wrote:
I’m getting the same thing. Putting the “none” cursor over the tool pallet 
gets the tools to hilite… but no cursor. Moving the “none” cursor to the 
message box (I started with it over an empty stack window) causes the 
“hand" cursor to establish without any additional scripting.

LC 9.6.9 stable  MBP M2Pro Ventura13.3.1(a)


Thanks. I've found if you swipe the mouse over the script editor, or the 
dock, or another window it comes back. Basically, sweep the mouse 
erratically all over the screen until it hits something it recognizes. But 
I can't expect users to do that.


--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Re: Default cursor

2023-05-07 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
I just did a quick test.
I downloaded a svg from Font Awesome website and imported it using "Import as 
Control -> image file " from file menu.
After that i could access that image and set the cursor to it.
But you have to resize the image to your preferred size either after importing 
or at least before using it as a cursor.

HTH

Matthias

> Am 07.05.2023 um 19:32 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I suppose I could create a custom cursor set and replace the arrow with the 
> custom cursor. LC does recover from "none" if a default cursor isn't set. 
> I've never done a custom cursor set though so if anyone else has, I'd 
> appreciate any tips.
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On May 6, 2023 8:23:57 PM scott--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, an interesting clue but not much of a workaround. Does this happen in 
>> a standalone or is it an IDE only issue…? (30 seconds later) Ick! 
>> Standalone, too and there seems to be even fewer things to interact with to 
>> get the cursor back. Clicking the menuBar works.
>> --
>> Scott Morrow
>> 
>> Elementary Software
>> (Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
>> web   https://elementarysoftware.com/
>> email sc...@elementarysoftware.com
>> booth1-360-734-4701
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2023, at 4:15 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 5/6/23 4:23 PM, scott--- via use-livecode wrote:
 I’m getting the same thing. Putting the “none” cursor over the tool pallet 
 gets the tools to hilite… but no cursor. Moving the “none” cursor to the 
 message box (I started with it over an empty stack window) causes the 
 “hand" cursor to establish without any additional scripting.
 LC 9.6.9 stable  MBP M2Pro Ventura13.3.1(a)
>>> 
>>> Thanks. I've found if you swipe the mouse over the script editor, or the 
>>> dock, or another window it comes back. Basically, sweep the mouse 
>>> erratically all over the screen until it hits something it recognizes. But 
>>> I can't expect users to do that.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>> 
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Re: Default cursor

2023-05-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I suppose I could create a custom cursor set and replace the arrow with the 
custom cursor. LC does recover from "none" if a default cursor isn't set. 
I've never done a custom cursor set though so if anyone else has, I'd 
appreciate any tips.

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On May 6, 2023 8:23:57 PM scott--- via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Yeah, an interesting clue but not much of a workaround. Does this happen in 
a standalone or is it an IDE only issue…? (30 seconds later) Ick! 
Standalone, too and there seems to be even fewer things to interact with to 
get the cursor back. Clicking the menuBar works.

--
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Elementary Software
(Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
web   https://elementarysoftware.com/
email sc...@elementarysoftware.com
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On May 6, 2023, at 4:15 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


On 5/6/23 4:23 PM, scott--- via use-livecode wrote:
I’m getting the same thing. Putting the “none” cursor over the tool pallet 
gets the tools to hilite… but no cursor. Moving the “none” cursor to the 
message box (I started with it over an empty stack window) causes the 
“hand" cursor to establish without any additional scripting.

LC 9.6.9 stable  MBP M2Pro Ventura13.3.1(a)


Thanks. I've found if you swipe the mouse over the script editor, or the 
dock, or another window it comes back. Basically, sweep the mouse 
erratically all over the screen until it hits something it recognizes. But 
I can't expect users to do that.


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Re: Default cursor

2023-05-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Apologies, I was in fact in a churlish mood. You should have seen what I 
wrote before I edited it.


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On May 7, 2023 3:01:05 AM Richmond via use-livecode 
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Is that a fact?

Surely when someone offers help it seems churlish to set conditions.

On 7.05.23 2:08, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 5/6/23 4:51 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:

AND, there (on the forums) I have found a way to get things to do
what you want.


Please reply here, I have chosen my preferred venue. Images and
downloads are unnecessary.



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Re: Default cursor

2023-05-07 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

Is that a fact?

Surely when someone offers help it seems churlish to set conditions.

On 7.05.23 2:08, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 5/6/23 4:51 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
AND, there (on the forums) I have found a way to get things to do 
what you want.


Please reply here, I have chosen my preferred venue. Images and 
downloads are unnecessary.




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