Re: Code Folding in LC

2024-05-15 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode

Bernd:

> A new version of Code Folding has been uploaded

That's a good effort. Thanks!

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Radically Innovative Christian LiveCode Development
"PASSION for Elegant, Efficient Code!"
https://livecodeconsulting.com/

___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


Re: WebDeployHelper tool - the LC10 web app toolbox

2024-05-15 Thread Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode
Bill,

Well, for the basics, there is this LiveCode Lesson: 
https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/1496056-how-do-i-put-my-first-app-on-the-web-lc-10-and-later
It shows the basic/standard way of deploying a LiveCode stack to web. 

The WebDeployHelper tool mainly hooks into the final steps of that process:
- If you click the Test button, a front script intervenes and sets up the html 
file that replaces the generic one, and then lets the IDE launch the test build 
- When you build a standalone, instead of selecting ”Build standalone…” from 
the LC menu, you use the Build & upload tab of the tool


But just to get you started, this would be the minimum steps to take:
1a) Create a stack, put some controls on card 1 (whatever you want to test), 
and save it.
1b) Alternatively, open any existing stack that you want to test as a web app 
(not a too complex one at this stage).
2) Make sure only Web is ticked in the standalone builder settings. And as with 
all platform build cases, you need to select the relevant inclusions in the 
standalone builder settings.
3) Open WebDeployHelper stack and/or click the Refresh icon next to the Active 
stack menu button. Select your stack in the menu, if it is not already so.
4) Now you can just hit the Test button to see that your stack launches in a 
browser. If it did, then all is well - go back to WebDeployHelper and start 
exploring the features that can be modified or added. Rinse and repeat.

There is an in-stack help section for additional explanations, and most fields 
and buttons also have helpful tooltips.

I might consider also making a video or something, just to show a walkthrough 
of how it can be used. But I’ll see if (unpaid) time allows. My day job 
building bespoke software with LiveCode already takes up most of my screen 
time, so to speak… :)

/Andreas


> 14 maj 2024 kl. 01:32 skrev William Prothero via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Andreas:
> I just found out that making an elementary starter web page with Livecode and 
> your site test system is going to be less than obvious unless I get more info.
> 
> So, is there a very simple, starter project posted somewhere, with clear 
> instructions for someone who hasn’t messed with LiveCode web deployment at 
> all? I think that once i get more into it, I’ll be able to create what I 
> want, but I need a start to avoid thrashing.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
> William A. Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara 
> Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus)
> Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org/
> 
>> On May 13, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Indeed. I’ve been thinking about creating a series of video demos of my 
>> Forms Generator app to send to the owners of the company I work for, and 
>> then I thought, why stop there? Why not send them to LC and see if they want 
>> to start up a Made By page. 
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> These high level projects NEED to be touted in the LiveCode website. 
>>> Success stories are great salesmen. Is Scotland listening??
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
 On May 13, 2024, at 4:09 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Andreas:
 That is simply wonderful! I'll try it out.
 Bill
 William A. Prothero, PhD
 Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science
 University of California, Santa Barbara
 
> On May 13, 2024, at 12:50 PM, Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> WIS_WebDeployHelper v1.0.2 is now out. A significant enhancement is that 
> it is now possible to simply hit the Test button to launch a test build 
> in your web browser - including all your added advanced features - 
> without any need to first upload to a web server.
> 
> https://github.com/wheninspace/WIS_WebDeployHelper/releases/latest
> 
> /Andreas
> 
> 
>> 5 apr. 2024 kl. 17:44 skrev Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> That's cool !   I really like those 'slide-out' left buttons.
>> 
>> Thank you very much for this.
>> 
>> Alex.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 05/04/2024 16:38, Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode wrote:
>>> And as a follow-up on this, here is also a demo web app created with 
>>> the help of WebDeployHelper 1.0.1:
>>> 
>>> https://wheninspace.com/WebDeployHelperTest/
>>> 
>>> To back my words! :D
>>> 
>>> /Andreas
>>> 
>>> 
 5 apr. 2024 kl. 03:06 skrev Tom Glod via use-livecode 
 :
 
 thank you for making this available to the community.
 
 On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 5:02 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
> +1
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> -Original Message-
>>

Re: Code Folding in LC

2024-05-15 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
A new version of Code Folding has been uploaded to the Forum

https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=38912&p=229971#p229971

It addresses a couple of bugs and has been tested to work from 9.6.9 up to 
9.6.12 (RC1) and 10.0.0 (DP8)

Kind regards
Bernd
___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


Re: WebDeployHelper tool - the LC10 web app toolbox

2024-05-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
seconding on the compiler as the biggest thing. (you owe me a year, lc. i
paid for it)
my #2 priority would be more effort on mobes (long paragraph deleted -
you're welcome).
but i could be convinced that #3 could be web, if it wasn't a squirrel,
too. (you also owe me a year, here, lc).


On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:31 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Yes, my top priority would definitely be the compiler, and second would be
> seamless standalone app building. I would love a true compiled version of
> my apps, but barring that, being able to build ALL my app for all platforms
> in one pass, and then being able to build again without having to quit and
> relaunch would be nice.
>
> But I also understand that the Covid Debaucle has left a lot of companies
> stressed for resources. So I will still renew my subscriptions, but I do
> not think I will invest anymore in any new technologies until the ones I
> have already invested in come to fruition.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On May 15, 2024, at 9:20 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Andreas:
> >
> > > all it’s features really should be available in the standalone
> > > builder of the first stable release of LC 10
> >
> > Indeed. Another context of ...
> >
> > Richard Gaskin (Oct 13, 2023):
> >
> > > SIMPLIFYING DEPLOYMENT IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
> >
> > This is a true classic, the #1 best comment last year!
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > > my disappointment with lc's eternal chasing of the next squirrel ...
> > > ooh! look! web apps! squirrel!
> >
> > I'm glad you brought that up; a real gem - the #2 comment last year.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Curry Kenworthy
> >
> > Radically Innovative Christian LiveCode Development
> > "PASSION for Elegant, Efficient Code!"
> > http://livecodeconsulting.com/
> >
> > ___
> > use-livecode mailing list
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
>
> ___
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
>


-- 
On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth
On the second day, God created the oceans.
On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
   and did a little diving.
And God said, "This is good."
___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


Re: WebDeployHelper tool - the LC10 web app toolbox

2024-05-15 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Yes, my top priority would definitely be the compiler, and second would be 
seamless standalone app building. I would love a true compiled version of my 
apps, but barring that, being able to build ALL my app for all platforms in one 
pass, and then being able to build again without having to quit and relaunch 
would be nice. 

But I also understand that the Covid Debaucle has left a lot of companies 
stressed for resources. So I will still renew my subscriptions, but I do not 
think I will invest anymore in any new technologies until the ones I have 
already invested in come to fruition. 

Bob S


> On May 15, 2024, at 9:20 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Andreas:
> 
> > all it’s features really should be available in the standalone
> > builder of the first stable release of LC 10
> 
> Indeed. Another context of ...
> 
> Richard Gaskin (Oct 13, 2023):
> 
> > SIMPLIFYING DEPLOYMENT IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
> 
> This is a true classic, the #1 best comment last year!
> 
> Mike:
> 
> > my disappointment with lc's eternal chasing of the next squirrel ...
> > ooh! look! web apps! squirrel!
> 
> I'm glad you brought that up; a real gem - the #2 comment last year.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Curry Kenworthy
> 
> Radically Innovative Christian LiveCode Development
> "PASSION for Elegant, Efficient Code!"
> http://livecodeconsulting.com/
> 
> ___
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
> preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


Re: WebDeployHelper tool - the LC10 web app toolbox

2024-05-15 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode

Andreas:

> all it’s features really should be available in the standalone
> builder of the first stable release of LC 10

Indeed. Another context of ...

Richard Gaskin (Oct 13, 2023):

> SIMPLIFYING DEPLOYMENT IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

This is a true classic, the #1 best comment last year!

Mike:

> my disappointment with lc's eternal chasing of the next squirrel ...
> ooh! look! web apps! squirrel!

I'm glad you brought that up; a real gem - the #2 comment last year.

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Radically Innovative Christian LiveCode Development
"PASSION for Elegant, Efficient Code!"
http://livecodeconsulting.com/

___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


Re: WebDeployHelper tool - the LC10 web app toolbox

2024-05-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
4d's qodly, which is, imho, even a more promising web dev tool, is also
stalled, and has been stalled for almost six months.
i can't hide my disappointment with lc's eternal chasing of the next
squirrel (script compiler is now 17 months overdue because, ooh! look! web
apps! squirrel!). however, i am not at all surprised that they are in a
slog, at this point. how many fullstack web dev tools are there? (i'm not
being sarcastic. i've looked for fullstack web dev tools and come away
wondering why there are so few, and why they all suck)

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 4:47 PM Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Thanks Craig. This particular project is unlikely to be acknowledged by
> the mothership though, as it addresses (and thereby highlights) the
> shortcomings of the current LC 10 dp versions available. But I hope that I
> will not need to maintain this tool for very long, as all it’s features
> really should be available in the standalone builder of the first stable
> release of LC 10 - at least if LC 10’s web deploy capability is intended to
> be one of its selling points...
>
> In the meantime, I’m trying to make this tool a key to unlocking some of
> LC 10’s web app potential.
> ’Cause I want to build great web apps now, not later! :D
>
> /Andreas
>
>
> > 13 maj 2024 kl. 23:45 skrev Craig Newman via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > These high level projects NEED to be touted in the LiveCode website.
> Success stories are great salesmen. Is Scotland listening??
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >> On May 13, 2024, at 4:09 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Andreas:
> >> That is simply wonderful! I'll try it out.
> >> Bill
> >> William A. Prothero, PhD
> >> Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science
> >> University of California, Santa Barbara
> >>
> >>> On May 13, 2024, at 12:50 PM, Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> WIS_WebDeployHelper v1.0.2 is now out. A significant enhancement is
> that it is now possible to simply hit the Test button to launch a test
> build in your web browser - including all your added advanced features -
> without any need to first upload to a web server.
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/wheninspace/WIS_WebDeployHelper/releases/latest
> >>>
> >>> /Andreas
> >>>
> >>>
>  5 apr. 2024 kl. 17:44 skrev Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
>  That's cool !   I really like those 'slide-out' left buttons.
> 
>  Thank you very much for this.
> 
>  Alex.
> 
> 
> > On 05/04/2024 16:38, Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode wrote:
> > And as a follow-up on this, here is also a demo web app created with
> the help of WebDeployHelper 1.0.1:
> >
> > https://wheninspace.com/WebDeployHelperTest/
> >
> > To back my words! :D
> >
> > /Andreas
> >
> >
> >> 5 apr. 2024 kl. 03:06 skrev Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >>
> >> thank you for making this available to the community.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 5:02 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> Ralph DiMola
> >>> IT Director
> >>> Evergreen Information Services
> >>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com]
> On
> >>> Behalf Of William Prothero via use-livecode
> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2024 4:48 PM
> >>> To: How to use LiveCode
> >>> Cc: William Prothero
> >>> Subject: Re: WebDeployHelper tool - the LC10 web app toolbox
> >>>
> >>> Andreas,
> >>> This sounds really great! It encourages me to start working with
> web
> >>> apps.Thanks for your contribution.
> >>> Best,
> >>> Bill
> >>> ___
> >>> use-livecode mailing list
> >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
> >>
> >> ___
> >> use-livecode mailing list
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
> >
> >
> > ___
> > use-livecode mailing list
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
>
>
> ___
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscripti