Re: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma

[Rolf Kocherhans via use-livecode]

@Matthias and the Mothership,

My Apple Developer account expired several years ago, and I'm facing a critical 
issue with one of my LiveCode Apps, Clarify, developed by Trevor DeVore. This 
app is extremely important to me.

Unfortunately, Clarify is no longer actively developed and has started crashing 
with Sonoma. I am wondering if there's a possibility to resolve this issue by 
signing the bundles. I am more than willing to invest in a new subscription 
with Apple if that's what it takes – I can't imagine my work without Clarify.

Could someone please test if signing the bundles might make an app functional 
again?
Your assistance in this matter would mean the world to me.

Cheers,
Rolf

Am 30.09.2023 um 18:00 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:

Maybe my observation is not the reason for the crash. Would really not make 
sense, when an unsigned app would crash instead of reporting an alert.

But code signing  the complete Livecode app bundle would proof it.

Did someone btw had a look at the system log file after the crash?

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Re: [ANN] Release 10.0.0 DP-1

[Rolf Kocherhans via use-livecode]

First of all thanks for the WebAssembly HTML5 implementation. This is really 
great stuff !

I already played with it a lot and found that some things work better others 
don't.

For instance all my URL stuff (loading a stack on same domain) is unfortunately 
not working anymore.

Also, all the PHP scripts which I used to access, which downloaded stuff from 
other domains and then displayed
the result in the Browser don't work anymore.


Is this just me - or is it just not implemented yet ?

And if it is not only me, is this something high on the list ?


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HiDPI scaling on HTML5 works great !

[Rolf Kocherhans via use-livecode]

Hello All

For all doing HTML5 stuff, try the new 9.6.3 RC-1 Release,
finally it can now do HiDPI scaling !

The stacks on webpages now look beautiful !

Thanks to all who made this happen !

Cheers
Rolf

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WebAssembly and HiDPI scaling for HTML5 when ?

[Rolf Kocherhans via use-livecode]

Hello LiveCode Engineers


I am very patiently waiting for HiDPI scaling and WebAssembly
to be incorporated into HTML5 in LiveCode.

Looking at the Git pages it seems to be already ready for a very long time ?

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/milestone/193

Do you have an estimate when you will be able to release LiveCode 9.7-dp-1 to 
public ?
It has been in development for almost 1 Year now.

I would like to push HTML5 development on my side, but the "blurry appearance“ 
of
the published stacks with the low resolution is stopping me because it looks 
very
unprofessional for 2021.

Please put a little more resources into HTML5 development it would be a real
winner for the whole Platform.

Regards
Rolf
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Is this broken (set the cursor to watch)

[Rolf Kocherhans via use-livecode]

Is it just me, or are all "set the cursor to xx“ broken ?

-> I use LC 9.5 on macOS

Regards
Rolf
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Question about script-only stacks

[Rolf Kocherhans via use-livecode]

There seems a lot of hype recently about script-only stacks.
I agree that they are cool vor GIT and work perfectly, but
it came to my mind - how are you go about it when you want to
protect your scripts.

Are they also encrypted by a password when you compile a stack,
and if not what would be the best way to d it ?

Cheers
Rolf

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Re: OT: https <> http | WAS Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

[Rolf Kocherhans]

If I do the same I land on artisansofscotland.com :-(

My original page: www.kangaroo.on-rev.com

If I go here:   https://www.kangaroo.on-rev.com
I land here:   https://artisansofscotland.com


Whats going on ?


> Am 12.07.2016 um 12:00 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I have my website at ON-REV: 
>  
> and inspired by the ATS discussion I was curious and just entered this into 
> the address 
> line of my browser: 
> 
> 
> I really did not exspect anything but an error like "Not configured" or 
> whatever, but got a 
> Certificate alert dialog and after clicking "Continue" I found myself on THIS 
> page:
>  ?
> 
> But the address line still reads "www.major-k.de", even after I clicked some 
> links to subpages 
> on that page -> www.major-k.de/not_my_sub-page.html
> 
> I'm completely puzzled, what the hell is going on here?
> Any insights highly welcome! :-)
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus


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Re: Application Transport Security deadline for iOS apps

[Rolf Kocherhans]

What does ATS mean for people using on-rev ?

I am not at all familiar with this subject, therefor
I have a couple of questions:

Will it be a per person thing, do I have to install a cert just for me ?
Or will LiveCode do this for all users ?
Or will this be implemented into the cPanel ?


> 
> Am 12.07.2016 um 00:53 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:
> 
> Those using shared hosts running CPanel will have to wait just a few 
> more weeks while that team's control panel support completes its beta 
> testing.



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Re: Sample Stacks Stack in Livecode 8 - Gone ?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

> Am 20.03.2016 um 07:10 schrieb Richard Gaskin:
> 
> For the short term I believe the best solution *might* be to put 
> RevOnline back in place as it's been for years.  But I say "might" 
> because I don't know the reasoning behind it, and "why" is always 
> critically important to learn when questioning a "what".



I agree 100 %, I hope the RevOnlineStack will return immediately, and if not,
then please let us know - why not !


-> Mothership please answer …


I believe RevOnline is a great tool/database, because it is not regulated by
LiveCode in any way, but was and is a community driven repository of 
interesting stacks
and plugins !

Let the mothership develop a better LiveCode, and let us contribute and show
stacks to others :-).


Cheers
Rolf

PS: To the Mothership, if you remove or change features (RevOnlineStack) from
any LiveCode App then please Include this info also in the release notes :-).




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Re: Sample Stacks Stack in Livecode 8 - Gone ?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello Elanor & Peter

There is a misunderstanding :-( !

I did not ask how I can download stack, I know very well
of the existence of the webpage and I have seen Download Buttons
before - thanks ?!

My question was if the download environment within LiveCode wich
is now gone in the 8 line, will return or if you plan to stick with the webpage
only.

And if you stick with the webpage there is no upload button :-)

Regards
Rolf


> Am 18.03.2016 um 12:00 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:
> 
> Hi Rolf,
> 
> I've asked Elanor (who wrote the new Start Center) and she says:
> 
>> You can still download Sample Stacks.  Rather than using the Sample 
> Stacks window within the IDE we now open the LiveCode Share site in a 
> browser.  All the same sample stacks are available there
>> 
>> To download a stack just select it in the list to see the details. 
> There is a Download Now button which allows you to download the stack.


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Sample Stacks Stack in Livecode 8 - Gone ?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

In LiveCode 8 I can no longer download Stacks (click Sample Stacks) from the
online sample stack portal, the download/upload stack called „Sample Stacks“ is
replaced with a link to http://livecodeshare.runrev.com.

Will that stay, or is a better or different download Stack, for the final 
version in
the works ?

Regards
Rolf
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Re: Question About Resolution Independence

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Sorry that was a typo just on the eMail !

The stack has a size of 1024*768 pixels.
@ Richmond this size is suggested on a movie about Resolution Independence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idctzDFoGj8=youtu.be

I think that that Colin could be correct with his suggestion of using:

iphoneUseDeviceResolution but there are so many possibilities (4), and I do not
fully understand all the text in the Dictionary

iphoneUseDeviceResolution true
iphoneUseDeviceResolution true, true
iphoneUseDeviceResolution true, false
iphoneUseDeviceResolution false

Has anyone used this already ?

I thought that I can just use:

on preOpenStack
   set the fullScreenMode of this stack to "exactFit"
end preOpenStack

And all my resolution problems would be done ?!

What do you all use - can we really program for one screen size and deploy
to all devices ?

Regards
Rolf



> Am 08.02.2016 um 03:48 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:
> 
> Out of curiosity, if that's not a typo:
>> my stack has a size of 1025*768
> 
> Is it the same if you use 1024*768 (exactly 4:3)?



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Question About Resolution Independence

[Rolf Kocherhans]

I am experimenting with "Resolution Independence" and different screen
sizes for developing on the mobile platform (iOS).

When I set "iPod,iPhone,iPad" in the "Build for" settings in the "Standalone
Application Settings" I always get an 1X or 2X at the bottom/right of a real
iPad (with Retina display).

Why is this so, normally I get these (1X or 2X) only if an app is not programmed
for iPad to enlarge the screen to full size - right ?

But my stack has a size of 1025*768 and I have checket the correct
„Build for setting“…. ?

I get the „1X" also when I just Build for iPad ?!

Any idea ?

Cheers Rolf
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RE: Where can I find the latest "Release Notes for Mobile"

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Thanks Colin & Richmond for the links.

I was after the newest version of - what was once called „iOS-specific engine 
features“
in the PDF file - this has been renamed to:

"Mobile Specific Engine Features“ and can now be found online here:

https://livecode.com/resources/guides/mobile/mobile-specific-engine-features/


Cheers
Rolf
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Where can I find the latest "Release Notes for Mobile"

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Where can I find the latest Release Notes for the mobile platform ?

The latest I can find is:  LiveCodeNotes-5_5_5-iOS.pdf

from here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ 


That version is very old !

I am sure there must be newer one somwhere (for LC 7.1.1) ? 

Cheers
Rolf
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iOS - Prevent screen from dimming

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello All

Is it possible to prevent the screen from dimming (iOS) after the user
does nothing for a while ?

This is necessary is you for instance show the speed reading from
a GPS signal on the Mobile Device.

Cheers
Rolf

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Indy doubles in price because of HTML5 export ?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

To all at LiveCode

Do I read and interpret your announcement (Fireworks for HTML5) correctly ?

There are now two Indy license types, one with HTML5 and one without ?

I had a (what was called Enterprise License) for many, many years with all
Deployment options intakt - this recently got converted to an Indy License.

You recently also introduced a new Business version which is very expensive.

Now you have an another new License type called "Indy - All Platforms“ for 998$

What was once ease becomes complicated, and expensive.

I can’t afford to by Indy for all platforms at this price - sorry !

To double the price „if I read your announcement correctly“ seems to 
unreasonable to me.

Luckily I was a founder of the HTML5 feature - I hope that this qualifies me to 
get
HTML5 export with my current Indy licence for ever, or does it not ?

I wonder what others think about this...
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Re: App Browser versus Project Browser

[Rolf Kocherhans]

+1 from me

Cheers
Rolf


> Agreed that satisfying everybody will never happen, but I would argue that
> the dual-pane approach of the Application Browser can display more
> information in a single view than the Project Browser.  IMO, accessing
> multiple stacks is more efficient using this approach compared to using a
> single scrolling list.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design

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HTML5 "get URL"

[Rolf Kocherhans]

I am experimenting with the „get URL“ command on a HTML5 WebApp.

I can’t get it to work at all :-(

The get URL command can be used in 3 ways with file - ftp or
http urls, I guess the HTML5 get URL command is not used
for ftp or http because the relay on LibURL (just a guess).

Therefore I concentrated on the file command to access local files on the
Server where I host the WebPage.

Example: get URL ("file:" & "/public_html" & "/text.txt")

Can anybody help ? I guess I have a problem with not knowing the correct
path to the file which I want to import ?

Cheers
Rolf
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Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

[Rolf Kocherhans]

@ Fraser


> Am 01.09.2015 um 17:47 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:
> 
>> I am asking this because I could not get it to work form my Desktop OS
>> using it without a WebServer.
> 
> Some browsers (Chrome in particular, but all of them to some degree) have 
> restrictive policies in place that prevent JavaScript (like the LiveCode 
> engine) from accessing the local file system. There?s no way to work around 
> this - it is a security feature to stop web apps from stealing your data. The 
> HTML5 deployment guide has a section on how to use Python to run a local web 
> server.
> 
> Fraser

Sorry I did not explain my question well enough. What I would like to know is,
can the -get URL- command be tested/used form the desktop at all ?

Without any Server !

I tried and nothing happened !


Cheers
Rolf
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Re: HTML5 test

[Rolf Kocherhans]

On all my Systems I only get the -hair- cursor, no arrow or hand cursor !

Does anyone see other cursors ?

Cheers
Rolf


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Re: HTML5 test

[Rolf Kocherhans]

The color change is consistent in all Browsers on OS X.
I did quite a lot of testing today and found that Graphic Objects created with 
LiveCode
have correct colors, but imported pictures (any kind gif,png etc.) are all 
wrong.

> Am 01.09.2015 um 17:47 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:
> 
> That?s entirely possible - there are some byte-ordering issues (RGB vs BGA 
> for images would case colour swapping) with the HTML5 engine at the moment. 
> Is it the same in all browsers or does it work in some and not in others?
> 
> Fraser

Cheers
Rolf
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Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Does “get URL“ work from everywhere or only on a Server when I am
hosting the LCWebApp ?

> Am 31.08.2015 um 18:55 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:
> 
> - no networking except ?get url?

I am asking this because I could not get it to work form my Desktop OS
using it without a WebServer.

Cheers
Rolf
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Re: Script-only stacks [was: Re: Script Editor future]

[Rolf Kocherhans]

I have done this already in 2012 with my plugin:


> With this arrangement, using git and external editors becomes easier to
> integrate with the added benefit that one could implement a 2 save option,
> saving a GUI version and a script only version of your stacks to different
> locations at the same time.

You can download it here: 
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/669/Kochi-Mini-SVN-Installer 


I should have called the Plugin „Kochi Mini CVS“ instead of "Kochi Mini SVN", 
the
name confuses people I guess.

But it does write text files of every control to a file (UTF8) which can then 
be used with GIT.

And, it integrates into the IDE, after installing the Plugin you find the 
buttons to export the
scripts as text-files, in the ScriptEditor, in the top Bar.


Cheers
Rolf
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BAF and other things - I am confused...

[Rolf Kocherhans]

I didn’t wanna chime in into all those discussions, but I am totally confused by
the LiveCode mothership recently, and I have to now.

I am confused with the new BAF License and all the talk about SVN.

It is very clear to me that SVN does make a lot of sense to everyone. Therefore
I programmed a plugin and made it available to all for free already in 2012
( http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/669/Kochi-Mini-SVN-Installer ).
Monte also had a go at the subject in a much more professional way !

Now when I read about Business App Framework features here:
https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pricing/ it says:

—-
The BAF separates out parts of a project into individual files, with template 
definitions
and scripts stored as text.
—-

Is this not what SVN needs ?
Can we now all stop talking about creating an SVN Plugin or beg LiveCode to
incorporate SVN into the IDE because we now just need to buy the Business 
Edition
since all the work is already done ?


And if it is not so, can someone from the Mothership please show us in a Movie
or similar way what the BAF exactly does ?!
How could one decide to buy or not to buy it when we know so little about it.


Second question:

The new Widgets and the new LiveCode Builder language, when and how do we get 
more
information about how to use the Language ?

I had a look at all the movies and blog posts, but to be honest, for me the 
present info is not
at all enough to feel confident that I can create widgets on my own !


Can the mothership please chime in ?

Cheers
Rolf
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Change position of answer dialog as sheet

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Is it possible to change the location of an „answer dialog as sheet“ on OS X ?

I know that we can change the loc of a normal dialog box (preOpenStack), but 
can we
also do the same with a dialog box opened as sheet respectively a stack
opened as sheet ?

I would like to move the dialog box/stack down approx. 20 pixels because I
would like to use it in a stack with a custom window shape.

Otherwise I have to use groups :-(

Cheers
Rolf


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Re: [ANN] Yosemite Styles Window Plugin (free)

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello Everyone…

I totally forgot to mention…

To create custom shape windows in general is easy, but it is
not easy to create custom shape windows which retain their shape on
their corners while resizing !

If you use a fixed picture as windowShape and enlarge the window then the
whole window gets terribly distorted.

Bernd and I found a way to overcome just that :-) - this is probably the main
attraction of this Plugin !

Regards
Rolf


 So, I decided to create a Plugin, that creates such windows with the 
 windowShape technique myself...
 
 I had many problems with stack resizing and some other routines, luckily I 
 could get Bernd into the boat :-) - he and I made this Plugin together !


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[ANN] Yosemite Styles Window Plugin (free)

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello Everyone...

I wanted to have modern OS X style native windows (with Icons in the Titlebar) 
in LC for a very long time - I made an enhancement request in the Quality 
Control Center over a year ago:

http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12069

Unfortunately there is not much going on with my request :-( ?!

So, I decided to create a Plugin, that creates such windows with the 
windowShape technique myself...

I had many problems with stack resizing and some other routines, luckily I 
could get Bernd into the boat :-) - he and I made this Plugin together !

We hope you enjoy it - all scripts are open !

If you like this kind of windows in your own projects and would like to have 
real native style OS X windows (Cocoa) then please vote for my enhancement 
request or leave a comment on the page in the Quality Control Center with the 
link above.


Download the Plugin from inside LiveCode (with the button: Sample Stacks) or 
from here:

http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/791/Yosemite-Style-Window-Creator


Regards
Rolf Kocherhans  Bernd Niggemann


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Re: [ANN] modified Table Field 0_2_2

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello Bernd

Your new TableField looks very clean and very tidy, thanks for it !

Everyone who doesn’t like DataGrid should have a look at it !

Cheers
Rolf


 Dear list,
 
 here is a new version of modTableField.
 It is a way to display tabular data in a table view.
 
 --
 http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/modTableField/modTableField_0_3_2.zip 
 http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/modTableField/modTableField_0_3_2.zip
 --
 
 modTableField_0_3_2 has been cleaned up and has more examples and a revamped
 Helper stack that makes it easier to configure columns.
 Additionally you can now add Icons to columns that are user switchable.
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revBrowserOpenCef revBrowserAddJavaScriptHandler

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello All

I am experimenting with the new revBrowserOpenCef command and specially with 
the command
revBrowserAddJavaScriptHandler to trigger a LiveCode script from a webpage.

There is not much info on this online !
I tried all the examples I could find but nothing works so far with LiveCode 
7.0.x

Could someone send me a working stack including the HTML to get me going ?

PS: I am interested to communicate form the HTML page to the stack, not the 
other way around.

Regards
Rolf



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Re: 7.0.1-RC4 crashing regularly

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello all

I now see these crashes with 7.0.1-RC4 on OS X as well.
Unfortunately no recipe yet.

The stack is very simple 1 button and 1 image, all I
can say is that when I click on the stack after the crash
it would not load this stack again (corrupted).

No crashes with 7.0.1-RC2

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Re: Major Bug in 6.7

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello Chipp

I made a bug report already !

Cheers
Rolf

 Am 05.11.2014 um 12:00 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:
 
 When building a standalone, command-Q *or* selecting *Quit* from the
 menubar won?t quit the app. Try it in a simple stack:
 
   1. Create Stack
   2. Save as standalone
   3. Launch and try to Quit
 
 I?ve tested in earlier versions of LC and it works as expected. In 6.7 it
 seems *NOT* to work.
 
 Chipp Walters

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Re: Sending Terminal Command (Python) Using LiveCode?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello John

Yes this is possible, I do this all the time !

The way I use it:
Create a stack with a field, put the whole python script (can have multiple 
lines) into the field.
Replace place holders (replace %NAME% with Peter etc.) in the field, and then 
put field into a
variable and execute it with the shell command !

This works very well, if you need more info, contact me off list.

Cheers
Rolf


Am 27.08.2014 um 01:48 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:

 Hi All,
 
 I manage a lot of  accounts in our Google Apps for Education deployment. I 
 have used LiveCode to automate a lot of the csv creation for this process.
 
 I use a Terminal application (GAM) created in Python to do some of this too. 
 
 I would like to be able to call the GAM Python scripts via LiveCode. A 
 typical GAM python terminal command would be something like: 
 
 python gam.py create user j...@student.email.k12.ca.us firstname John 
 lastname Doe password 11 change password off
 
 Could I call this Python script directly from LiveCode?  
 
 Something like:
 
 on mouseUp
 shell(python gam.py create user j...@student.sylvan.k12.ca.us firstname John 
 lastname Doe password 11 change password off
 end mouseUp
 
 This seems too easy. I?m guessing I would have to point Livecode to the 
 proper directory (path) to the Python app. etc.
 
 Is calling python scripts possible through LiveCode? ?in need of an example :)
 
 Thank you!
 John Patten
 SUSD


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[SERVER] Is it possible to run a stack on LC-Server and interact with it ?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hi All

After reading the revUp article Cool Cat Server from David Williams some
time ago here:

http://newsletters.livecode.com/november/issue160/newsletter1.php

I was wondering if it is possible to take a snapshot of a stack running on a 
server
and directly interact with the snapshot from within a browser !

Kind of remotely control it... :-)

After a lot of learning I came up with this:

http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=15t=20388

Enjoy
Cheers
Rolf
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LiveCode 6.6 very slow on Retina MacBookPro

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello all

I noticed that LiveCode 6.6 is very slow on MacBooks with Retina display on
everything I do with it.

My latest project-stack has a size of 500kb with about 10 bg buttons on it and
3 bg fields. When I click onto a button to edit the script in 6.6 on Retina 
MacBook,
I can count to two until the script editor opens, everything is very, very slow 
!

At work, with a new iMac (late 2013), this is not the case, the script editor 
shows up almost
instantly.

I first thought that it might be that one, or all of my plugins could be 
responsible
for this, but nada. I removed all plugins and I experience the same
slow speed with LC 6.6 .

After I noticed this, I repeated my tests with LiveCode 6.5.2 and I found that
6.5.2 has the same speed on both Mac's.

To be sure that this is real I wanted to ask you to verify this. I created
two apps, one created with 6.5.2 and one with 6.6. They contain only a
background and now other controls.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/616613/Created%20with%20LiveCode%206.5.2.zip
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/616613/Created%20with%20LiveCode%206.6.zip

If you open them side by side and enlarge the window  at the bottom right then
you can see that the behavior on an iMac or any Mac with no Retina display is
very similar.

On a MacBook Pro with Retina Display the window from the 6.6 version „jumps“
and does not enlarge smoothly.

This is just one example to show the slow performance of LC 6.6 on OSX.
For me LC 6.6 does not feel good at all on a MacBook with Retina display.


Others ?


Cheers
Rolf


PS: Both systems where running the latest OSX with all updates.



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Re: LiveCode 6.6 very slow on Retina MacBookPro

[Rolf Kocherhans]

@Trevor

Thanks for pointing me and others to this great article from
Mark !

 Take a look at this blog post from Mark Waddingham which provides some
 background and the solution that is being worked on:
 
 http://livecode.com/blog/2014/03/18/hi-speed-hidpi/
 
 -- 
 Trevor DeVore


As it stands now - working with LC 6.6 on a Retina MacBook is no fun !

I am really looking forward to get some more Horse Power from future versions
of LiveCode :-) !

Cheers
Rolf



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Re: Support for Mac OSX 10.5

[Rolf Kocherhans]

This is absolutely right:


 The Kickstarter campaign was all about modernizing LC. It's a clear choice to
 me: drop 10.5 support. As others have said, people who want to maintain
 their old systems can use old versions of LC.
 
 Thanks,
 Tom Bodine


There are many of us waiting for major new features for the desktop version,
for a very long time.
We had to be patient and see how runrev's main goal was to push the mobile
platforms.

That’s OK - but, now is the time to give us (OSX desktop developers) some new 
features.

Drop support for 10.5 asap !

Cheers
Rolf




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Re: about the GPL version, and password protection...

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Am I right that this also means that password protected plugins
like, for example, the great tmControl from Scott Rossi will NOT
work with the free version ?

Cheers
Rolf

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[ANN] Free Kochi Mini SVN a very simple Version Control System” for LiveCode

[Rolf Kocherhans]

I'm happy to announce the availability of Kochi Mini SVN, it is totally free !

Kochi Mini SVN is a very, very, simple Script-Level Version Control System 
for LiveCode, built directly into the LiveCode Script Editor.

As a LiveCode enthusiast I have always wanted to have a simple to use 
Script-Level Version Control System for LiveCode. I saw a very impressive 
tool at RUNREV LIVE 2011 created by David Bovill. He suggested on his talk to 
not to be afraid to dive into the LiveCode IDE to find out more about the inner 
workings of LiveCode. His talk really inspired me to dig into the IDE and 
build, what I call the Kochi Mini SVN plugin, while we wait for his tool to 
be published.

The god thing, when you create such a beast on your own, you can decide exactly 
how its going to work :-). My goal was simplicity, that’s the reason why I 
designed the installer as a plugin. I am on the LC development channel and 
therefore get new versions frequently, with the plugin I can install Kochi 
Mini SVN very quickly and easyly.

Best Practice - Install / Deinstall when you have no other stacks open since 
you have to restart LiveCode !

Important: When you try to Uninstall Kochi Mini SVN, the IDE throws an 
warning message at you, saying that a stacks (revSE__Script__SVN) is already in 
memory. This is because the plugin and the IDE carry the same substack. You can 
just ignore this message and click OK and uninstall safely, no data loss will 
occur.
This problem could easily be overcome when the substack would be stored in a 
custom property of the main stack. I did not do this on purpose, to have easier 
access to the substack, to fix things or add features !


How does it work:
The Stack Kochi Mini SVN has to be used as a plugin, so please move it into 
your plugin folder before you try to install/uninstall Kochi Mini SVN.

When you install Kochi Mini SVN, it places 4 buttons, 2 images and one 
support substack (revSE__Script__SVN) into the LiveCode Script Editor. Kochi 
mini SVN Installer does NOT alter any scripts from the LiveCode IDE. After a 
restart to clean up memory, you're ready to use Kochi Mini SVN inside the 
Script Editor Window.

Whenever you like to check-in a script from any object, stack or substack you 
can now do so directly from within the Script Editor. Just hit the button 
Check In this will then save the script in a TEXT file (UTF8 Encoded) into a 
folder (which gets created on demand) just next to your stack. All saved script 
files contain the check-in date as well as the script itself in an XML like 
fashion !

If you at a later time would like to go back to a previous saved script or just 
compare what you have done, then just click the SVN Revisions button and 
choose a different file from the past (listed by date). This action will then 
open the support substack and show you your actual script alongside the saved 
script. Script differences are hilited.


What Kochi mini SVN can do for you:
- it can store scripts of any control/stack/substack in a text file on a local 
or remote folder (DropBox)
- it can diff compare between check-in in code and your actual code
- it can replace your actual code with checked-in code right from the Script 
Editor
- format all your scripts handlers by pressing the button Format, the tab key 
sometimes updates only one handler
- it can remove comments and empty lines in your scripts with the Compact 
button
- since text files are stored in a folder next to the stack, multiple people 
can have access to the changed text files if the stack is stored on a server
- text files get indext by Spotlight (on OSX) and are therefore searchable from 
the finder (this is my favorite feature, to find handlers wich I have 
programmed in the past !)
- the Stack file format is 2.7 so that it works with LiveCode version 4.6.4 as 
well

What it can not do:
- it does not store information about any object properties
- scripts are not saved automatically, you have to Check In and Check Out 
your code
- it does not do SVN branching or merging
- it can not recreate a stack from the saved text files
- it can not store custom comments or custom version numbers with the script 
files
- Kochi Mini SVN is certainly not bug free :-)


I like to share Kochi Mini SVN for free, give something back to the 
community, some of what it has given to me. So just enjoy it, I hope Kochi 
Mini SVN is useful to lots of people !

If you like Kochi Mini SVN please consider to donate something to my PayPal 
account !

I release Kochi Mini SVN under the MIT License with the exception that 
whatever you do with my code, the resulting software has to remain FREE OF 
CHARGE !

You can download “Kochi Mini SVN” conveniently from RevOnline.

I hope that some of the pros (or the RunRev prople) on this list take up my 
idea and develop my plugin further or create something much better :-). There 
is plenty of room for improvement, for example the diff handler could be 
improved to work more reliable and 

Send a message when the mouse hilites text on an option menu, possible ?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

I have an option menu with say 3 entries. When I click the onto the
option menu, I can see all 3.

When I hover up and down, the one which I am over is hilited.

Is it possible to do something with this hilite ?

I like to show some additional info about the hilited position.

In my case the 3 entries are filepathes and when I am over
the hilite I would like to display for example the first line of that file
in a field.


Cheers
Rolf

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[TEASER] Kochi Mini SVN a very simple Script-Level Version Control System for LiveCode

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello LiveCoder's

Just a little teaser of a tool I made. Recently there was a lot of talk on both 
lists
about Script-Level Version Control. I have created a plugin that just fits into 
that niche
and it's just about ready for prime time !

Are you interested ? 

Check it out at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/616613/Kochi_SVN_Installer.mov it is 
the 
first demo of Kochi Mini SVN in public.

PLEASE GIVE THE MOVIE SOME TIME TO LOAD !

Have fun as always
Cheers 
Rolf



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Shell is now also blocking animated gif's ?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

In the past I used a lot of shell commands. I have always used a animated gif's
to show that the app is still running, because the shell blocked LiveCode but
not animated gif's.

With the new version of LiveCode 5.5.1 this seems not to work anymore !
LiveCode is now blocked totally, not even animated Gif's are working.

Is this just me ? Can I change a setting to have my animated Gif's
animate again ?

Why is LiveCode now acting different ?

Cheers
Rolf
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[ANN] New custom control OS X Lion async png progress bar (on RevOnline)

[Rolf Kocherhans]

I was also testing RevOnline with a Stack (157K) and the upload worked :-) !

LiveCode does not give us the nice blue animated progress bar Lion has,
the one we have - is only static !

I never liked this, animated progress bars make the user believe that the
waiting time is up to 11% shorter.

http://www.newscientist.com/video/76695476001-progress-bar-illusion.html

I wanted to fiddle with png animation for a while, since I now needed a 
progress bar
for a self updating application, I decided to try to create one.

Because I learned so much from both lists and people are constantly helping 
everybody
I like to share it with all of you :-) !


Find instructions on how to use it in the stack itself (under the question 
mark),
Download the stack from RevOnline (-User Samples) from within LiveCode
(the Stack file format is 2.7).



Enjoy !
Rolf
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Re: LiveCodeOnline [Was: Re: Rev Online]

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello Tim

Yes !
We probably all have !
My last try was yesterday !


This is the response I got one months ago:


Ticket#201205091326

Hello Rolf,

Hopefully I will be tackling this issue with revOnline soon, but unfortunately 
I 
can't give you any estimate or assurances as to when it's going to be fixed. We 
do 
of course want everyone to be able to use revOnline, so with a bit of luck I'll 
be 
able to return it to normal working order sometime in the near future.

Regards



Am 21.06.2012 um 00:12 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:

 I don't mean to play Obvious Man here, but has anyone actually contacted 
 Heather, et al and asked for it to be fixed?
 
 Tim


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Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline (Andre Garzia)

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello Mark  Andre

I try for weeks, to upload to revOnline, I have great stuff
which I like to share !

I created a [Ticket#201205091326] two weeks ago with support
about the problem !

They wrote back - but their answer leaves me in the wind….
I don't think I can post it here because it was not very encouraging at all.

After reading your post Andre I had hopes that it is all fixed, so I also
tried to use the reset password trick which you descried,
but the upload still did not work just as before !

It looks as it just stalls when uploading !

I am using LiveCode 5.0.2, what version did you use ?

Why does it sometimes work and other times not ???

And why don't they fix this immediately, I think that revOnline is a
fantastic feature which really should just work - always !

Cheers
Rolf
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openStack called from subStack - why ?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

After years of coding, today I discovered for the first time while debugging
that an openStack handler in a mainStack gets also called when a subStack
of it is opened !

I put this into the stackScript of the MainStack:

global varMainStackName
on openStack
   put the short name of this stack into varMainStackName
end openStack

In a button I display the variable varMainStackName:

global varMainStackName
on mouseUp
   answer varMainStackName
end mouseUp

When I now add a substack also containing the display button
it contains the name of the substack and not the name of
the mainStack !

I found in the docs that if I put the script onto the first card of
the mainStack instead of into the stackScript, it all works as expected !

But why ?
This confuses me totally !

I always had the (wrong!) impression that every openStack handler is
only called once, and also that it belongs to the stack containing it.

Can someone explain why this is not so !

Cheers
Rolf

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Re: openStack called from subStack - why ?

[Rolf Kocherhans]

Hello Jacques

Thanks for your answer - but….

I know about the message path and that handlers in the main stack can be used by
all of it's substacks, I used this feature myself for many years !

What puzzles me is that an openStack handler in the mainStack gets executed when
a substack (containing NO CODE at all) is opened ?

Till today I was thinking openStack handlers are a per stack thing only.

I am still confused abut this :-)

Cheers
Rolf


 Hi Rolf,
 Seems straightforward for me: every message handler in the main stack's 
 script is available to every substack and their cards… that's the ground of 
 the message path!
 Jacques
 
 Le 20 avr. 2012 à 10:15, Rolf Kocherhans a écrit :
 
 After years of coding, today I discovered for the first time while debugging
 that an openStack handler in a mainStack gets also called when a subStack
 of it is opened !
 
 I put this into the stackScript of the MainStack:
 
 global varMainStackName
 on openStack
  put the short name of this stack into varMainStackName
 end openStack
 
 In a button I display the variable varMainStackName:
 
 global varMainStackName
 on mouseUp
  answer varMainStackName
 end mouseUp
 
 When I now add a substack also containing the display button
 it contains the name of the substack and not the name of
 the mainStack !
 
 I found in the docs that if I put the script onto the first card of
 the mainStack instead of into the stackScript, it all works as expected !
 
 But why ?
 This confuses me totally !
 
 I always had the (wrong!) impression that every openStack handler is
 only called once, and also that it belongs to the stack containing it.
 
 Can someone explain why this is not so !
 
 Cheers
 Rolf

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Problem with umlautes (non ASCII chars) in Windows

[Rolf Kocherhans]

I need to get the Computername from a Windows PC, but if
the computername contains non ASCII chars I get odd characters.

Also, the global variable (%Computername%) from inside LiveCode does
not display non ASCII chars correctly.

I also tried to use the CMD with the command hostname, which
displays the name correctly in the commandline window but not inside LiveCode.

Can someone with more experiance on a PC help ?
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[OT] Apple publishes six free e-books for developers

[Rolf Kocherhans]

If you develop for iOS and missed this, have a look :-)

http://www.macworld.com/article/156499/2010/12/apple_developer_ebooks.html

Cheers
Rolf



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