Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

Well; "burger', "cog" or something else?

Personally a start might be to have the "cog" (if that's what we are 
going to have) with a lot more contrast against its background, or even 
"Heaven forfend" in a different colour.


Richmond.

On 23.02.2016 20:18, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On February 23, 2016 5:21:55 AM RM  wrote:

I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal
lines sort of icon: neither
worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .


That's a standard icon on Android at least, and it represents a list, 
usually in the form of a menu. In Android circles it's affectionately 
referred to as the "hamburger menu" - - though it's a pretty flat burger.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[J. Landman Gay]

On February 23, 2016 5:21:55 AM RM  wrote:

I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal
lines sort of icon: neither
worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .


That's a standard icon on Android at least, and it represents a list, 
usually in the form of a menu. In Android circles it's affectionately 
referred to as the "hamburger menu" - - though it's a pretty flat burger.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

On 23.02.2016 13:08, Ali Lloyd wrote:

The tools palette settings menu pops up when you click the 'cog' icon at
the top right of the tools palette.


Um . . . I wonder if that is as intuitive as your interface developers 
think it is?


All sections are set to visible, and if you take a look at the image I 
uploaded to
the BUG report you will see that there is a large, grey, blank space 
where the widgets should show up.


I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal 
lines sort of icon: neither

worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .

Possibly there's a chance for a debate about this right now . . .

Richmond.


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM RM  wrote:



On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:

Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
palette settings?



   Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?

I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.

Richmond.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[Ali Lloyd]

The tools palette settings menu pops up when you click the 'cog' icon at
the top right of the tools palette.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM RM  wrote:

>
>
> On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:
> > Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
> > palette settings?
> >
> >
>   Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?
>
> I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.
>
> Richmond.
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:

Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
palette settings?



 Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?

I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.

Richmond.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[William Prothero]

Peter:
Thanks! No big rush.
Bill

> On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Peter TB Brett  wrote:
> 
> On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote:
>> Peter:
> 
>> I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is
>> there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The
>> widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the
>> incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> As Kevin and Monte have both noted here, and as mentioned in the blog post, 
> there is going to be some work to do to properly integrate the mergExt 
> externals into the LiveCode licensing system.
> 
> That work is underway, and I expect that there will be a further announcement 
> in the near future.
> 
>  Peter
> 
> -- 
> Dr Peter Brett 
> LiveCode Open Source Team
> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[panagiotis merakos]

>>> LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15 ... and 45 bug fixes!

Why only 45? I see 53 here (without the duplicates):

http://quality.livecode.com/buglist.cgi?list_id=51971_format=advanced=1456178232-f63548a008c88a1a2a1dc62212585e14_milestone=8.0.0-dp-15

Panos
--

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Peter TB Brett 
wrote:

> On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote:
>
>> Peter:
>>
>
> I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is
>> there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The
>> widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the
>> incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.
>>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> As Kevin and Monte have both noted here, and as mentioned in the blog
> post, there is going to be some work to do to properly integrate the
> mergExt externals into the LiveCode licensing system.
>
> That work is underway, and I expect that there will be a further
> announcement in the near future.
>
>   Peter
>
> --
> Dr Peter Brett 
> LiveCode Open Source Team
>
> LiveCode 2016 Conference https://livecode.com/edinburgh-2016/
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[Peter TB Brett]

On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote:

Peter:



I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is
there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The
widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the
incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.


Hi Bill,

As Kevin and Monte have both noted here, and as mentioned in the blog 
post, there is going to be some work to do to properly integrate the 
mergExt externals into the LiveCode licensing system.


That work is underway, and I expect that there will be a further 
announcement in the near future.


  Peter

--
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LiveCode Open Source Team

LiveCode 2016 Conference https://livecode.com/edinburgh-2016/

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[[-hh]]

> Peter B. wrote:
> Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of
> LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15 ... and 45 bug fixes!

What a british understatement for a preview, that's more
a release candidate (we are still in dot-dot state).

Especially the HTML5 part. I'm testing since three hours:
= The dp9-speed is back!!!
= Firefox 44 runs again (and pretty fast).
= Multiple fonts are available.
= The textsystem (measurements) seems close to the IDE now.
= Moves are smooth and look even more exact.
This is an essential progress.

Peter, iOS externals here, iOS externals there, I support that too.

But you and all you others of the team that worked with you in
that HTML5 part, you are *my* heros.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.
The more I read the source code the more I was impressed.
This progress and your ability of solving really difficult problems
is demonstrating again that the HTML5 part is worth the separate
license.

Good bye use-list (will still read the list), good bye sleep tonight,
back to forum, HTML5 (and Raspi)! Was fun here, I learned a lot from
you, thanks!

===
Hermann


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[Ali Lloyd]

Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
palette settings?

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:48 PM RM  wrote:

>
>
> On 22.02.2016 21:40, RM wrote:
> > Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15
> > it offered to upgrade me
> > to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3.
> >
> > I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is
> > projected to be sorted out for
> > the first Release candidate I'm not fussed.
> >
> > What IS worrying is that all the Widgets from the revTools stack have
> > vanished.
> >
> > Funny, very funny; that only happened the first time I started
> > LiveCode 8.0 DP 15.
>
> I was wrong: BUG report number 16975
>
> >
> > Richmond.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

On 22.02.2016 21:40, RM wrote:
Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 
it offered to upgrade me

to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3.

I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is 
projected to be sorted out for

the first Release candidate I'm not fussed.

What IS worrying is that all the Widgets from the revTools stack have 
vanished.


Funny, very funny; that only happened the first time I started 
LiveCode 8.0 DP 15.


I was wrong: BUG report number 16975



Richmond.





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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 
it offered to upgrade me

to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3.

I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is 
projected to be sorted out for

the first Release candidate I'm not fussed.

What IS worrying is that all the Widgets from the revTools stack have 
vanished.


Funny, very funny; that only happened the first time I started LiveCode 
8.0 DP 15.


Richmond.



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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[William Prothero]

Peter:
I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is there a 
link where we can download them?
BTW, congrats on DP15! The widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as 
will the incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.

Bill

William Prothero, Ph.D.
University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
proth...@earthednet.org




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[ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[Peter TB Brett]

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15.

Developer Preview Release
=
Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure you back up your 
stacks before testing them.


*IMPORTANT*: It is especially vital that you back up your stacks before 
testing them in 8.0 DP 15, as there has been a change to the save 
command in DP 13. The IDE has been updated to accommodate this change, 
but we strongly recommend making back-ups in case there is unforeseen 
data loss.


*IMPORTANT*: Your stacks may appear different on first opening in 8.0 DP 
15, due to the improvement in desktop OS theming introduced in DP 14. 
The theming can be reverted to legacy on a per-object basis using the 
new "theme" property. For more information, see the release notes.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or 
via the automatic updater.


Release Contents

64-bit Mac OS X deployment
--
You can now deploy apps as Mac OS X 64-bit programs.  See the "Mac 
Deployment Guide" in the IDE for more information.


Better control editing
--
The outline and handles of selected control are now shown on the top 
layer, even if other controls are on top of it.


Multiple fonts in HTML5 standalones
---
You can now include and use your own fonts in HTML5 standalones.

Default scripts for widgets
---
Widget developers can now provide a default script.  It's used to 
initialise the widget's script the first time the user edits the widget 
in the script editor.



...and 45 bug fixes!

Known issues

* Windows 10 theming causes display issues with the dictionary, script 
editor and property inspector


* CEF Browser (and therefore the dictionary and browser widget) does not 
currently work on 32-bit Linux


* HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions 
with dependencies


* 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio 
recording or the revVideoGrabber external


Feedback

LiveCode 8 is still in development, so we'd love to hear any feedback 
you have on it.  There are a number of features that we'd like to 
implement but aren't ready yet, and the existing features are subject to 
change during development - we can't guarantee that extensions written 
in Developer Previews will continue to work the same way in later versions.


Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at 
http://quality.livecode.com/


We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!

The LiveCode Team

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