Re: [OT] Personal project

[Kevin Miller via use-livecode]

Sean, thanks so much for this heartfelt response. BPD and Autism are 
particularly tough nuts to crack and I really feel for you. I've got plenty to 
say relevant to both believe it or not. I'll get there in time. And I agree 
that making others around you happy is a very important part of the meaning of 
life.

Thanks also to those others of you who wrote such positive responses today. I 
was a little nervous launching this and felt it was something that I needed to 
do nonetheless. It's clear this is something that has touched many of you or 
those around you. The friendly responses to this effort are so encouraging.

I don't want to lead this list deeply off topic by posting in a great deal of 
detail here. However if you want to engage on the channel itself with comments, 
feedback and questions either now or on future videos, I'll be very happy to 
respond on there as much as I can.

Thanks again for the feedback and for being the community that you are.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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LiveCode: Develop Yourself

On 24/10/2019, 15:47, "use-livecode on behalf of Sean Cole (Pi) via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Dearest Kevin,

Massive respect to you for choosing, against the advice of your associates,
to make this public. I just watched the intro video and will continue to
follow the channel with deep interest.

As you are very likely aware, I have battled, often unsuccessfully, with
'clinical' depression and more recently been diagnosed with BPD (Borderline
Personality Disorder) and Autism. I recently found out that BPD is the most
discriminated against condition on the planet - which is nice! Health
Insurance costs up to 10 times more than any other condition. The stigma
behind these conditions is what can perpetuate them if not checked or
fought.

The NHS just wrote me off their books a year on since my last big incident.
They have to do that though, I understand it's not their fault. But, in the
last year, I have learnt a lot. I have learned the Meaning of Life! It is
simply 'To Make Others Around You Happy'. Helping others is helping
yourself. Showing interest in and care for others is really important. And
so-called 'social media' is deadly and abusive. It is far, far better to
get to know people up close and personal than via a corrupt intermediatory.

I am extremely grateful to all those on this group who supported me and put
up with my behaviour. It will never be forgotten. Also to those closest to
me for all they have done, especially my wife of 24 years, Judith.

I wish you all the success you deserve for both overcoming your conditions
and in maintaining your business. A good example to follow!

All the very best

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
www.pidigital.co.uk
+44(1634)402193
+44(7702)116447
'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no
box!'
'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
but it is yourself!'

eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609


On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 13:56, Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
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> Hi folks,
>
> This is initial launch of a new personal project of mine, not strictly
> LiveCode related. I hope you'll indulge this one time me if I post a link
> to it here. Perhaps some of you might be interested in it.
>
> Annihilate Depression is a practical guide to overcoming depression based
> on my experiences:
> http://annihilatedepression.com
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kevin
>
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Re: [OT] Personal project

[Richmond via use-livecode]

Bravo.

I'm going to be pushing that at several people I know who have been 
chewing their way through hills of pills

for years.

Thanks.

Best, Richmond.

On 24.10.19 15:56, Kevin Miller via use-livecode wrote:

Hi folks,

This is initial launch of a new personal project of mine, not strictly LiveCode 
related. I hope you'll indulge this one time me if I post a link to it here. 
Perhaps some of you might be interested in it.

Annihilate Depression is a practical guide to overcoming depression based on my 
experiences:
http://annihilatedepression.com

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: [OT] Personal project

[Randy Hengst via use-livecode]

Hi Kevin,

Thank you for sharing this journey.

As I watched "How To Work On Yourself When You're Feeling Terrible” you 
mentioned “that these poor states do not last forever.” 

That comment really rang home for me. While I’ve not experienced the level of 
depression you’ve described… being ’down in the dumps’ is a regular occurrence 
(does that idiom translate well?). One way I’ve addressed the dark feelings is 
to ‘experiment’ with writing poetry… usually single focus/verse poems… here are 
several related to living with and recovering from the darkness:

It seems to me depression
 escapes from my despair:
And seeks to overwhelm me
so I no longer care.

It seems to me disguises
 are fearful of themselves;
And serve to cloak the darkness
beneath which no one dwells.

It seems to me that kindness,
 a gift to one and all,
Excises pain of others
and helps to break my fall.

It seems to me compassion,
 the precursor of hope,
Sets high our sights on caring
and gives us strength to cope.

be well,
randy

Randy Hengst
www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com

> On Oct 24, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Kevin Miller via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> This is initial launch of a new personal project of mine, not strictly 
> LiveCode related. I hope you'll indulge this one time me if I post a link to 
> it here. Perhaps some of you might be interested in it.
> 
> Annihilate Depression is a practical guide to overcoming depression based on 
> my experiences:
> http://annihilatedepression.com 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kevin
> 
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> 
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Re: [OT] Personal project

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Good topic.

I see that society has a lot of trouble from people worshiping at the 
altar of emotion.


Emotion is very useful, but it's similar to a sensor - ideally 
(functioning correctly) it raises awareness and provides additional 
input about important things in your environment and in yourself. Those 
things affect your survival - danger, disease, industry, help, needs un/met.


As long as people use emotion appropriately (using the tool for what it 
does well) they should generally benefit.


But when emotion is elevated to a goal in itself, or applied to every 
task as a supertool to solve everything, there is chaos. People can be 
perfectly happy doing something great - or equally happy doing something 
very destructive to themselves or others. Emotion is not a reliable 
final judge of good and bad paths or solutions. It's only a useful 
indicator that something COULD be going well or badly. It's a good tool 
to bring the condition to our attention, but we have better tools for 
solving many problems.


Likewise, people with an overwhelming primary goal of feeling 
happy/appreciated/fun/excitement etc (or the flip side, avoiding various 
negative or bland emotions) can cause all sorts of problems around them. 
This is where you see those weird situations with a lot of time wasted 
because they are pursuing a totally different angle. It can affect an 
entire company or government office. I have seen real-life examples 
where the community actually suffers as a result.


For example (but this a true story, just names and industry removed) a 
manager who feels inferior may develop persuasive verbal and nonverbal 
skills specifically to influence people and advance personally in 
career. But having already secured - through persuasion and networking, 
or sometimes through corruption - a position that is above his or her 
actual management abilities and knowledge/skills of the profession, the 
same manager is worried someone will learn the dark secret and something 
bad will happen.


Actually the job position remains fairly secure, at least at first, and 
logically all this person would need to do is simply focus on the job - 
do things properly, brush up on skills, improve, utilize the best 
employees, become more honest and professional - but such people can't 
see that because emotion is still in charge.


Instead they focus more than ever on building the persuasion and 
networking, forming a clique to manage perceptions and basically control 
thoughts and decisions - which transforms the workplace from 
results-oriented to friends-oriented. The manager is preoccupied with 
this and with the web of intrigue, leaving no chance for actual learning 
and improvement. Office conflicts are frequent, solutions are bizarre, 
coverups and shenanigans are commonplace, good workers with real 
knowledge are feared and punished or suppressed. Customer service and 
provided services take a dive, employee turnover increases, and the 
business or government office suffers all kinds of headaches.


Many similar happenings. Anytime someone is more in pursuit of either an 
emotion or a personal agenda rather than the task at hand, things go 
badly. In some cities multiple offices and industries are screwed up by 
these types of situations, plus corruption - ending in (depending on the 
department or business in question) everything from postal mail blowing 
down the street in the wind, to rabid animals running rampant, to 
clogged traffic, and of course long customer lines and disorder at the 
grocery store.


Less dramatic but still far reaching - decisions and industries driven 
by psychological or emotional needs (such as overcoming feelings of 
inferiority by pursuing grandeur) are often not the soundest decisions 
and directions. It's a big show to bolster the star. That affects the 
end consumer and so on - their lives are often enriched, ironically, but 
usually there are unnecessary headaches and unpleasant side effects that 
come with it. It could be even better if driven more by sound reasoning 
and less distracted by emotional factors.


I believe that achieving happiness is most efficiently and permanently 
achieved not by pursuing happiness itself, and certainly not by putting 
happiness or fear of various emotions in the driver's seat, but rather 
by either doing something well, or else doing something good.


But by doing good or doing it well - I don't mean virtue signaling or 
acting a part, again in pursuit of emotion or approval or appearances 
rather than the true characteristics of the thing itself - that's 
another HUGE route that leads to crazy and disastrous results. What 
looks great playing a role on TV is not the best approach in real life, 
so acting is not the same as doing. Again a very real-life example with 
names and titles removed, often with literally life and death 
consequences depending on the industry. Which kind of doctor do you want 
- the guy who plays a doctor on TV, or 

Re: [OT] Personal project

[Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode]

Kevin,

Kudos, many kudos to you. I’ve dealt with many friends and family members with 
depression over the years and it is nice to see a lot of what I’ve tried with 
them in your videos.

Jeff

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Re: [OT] Personal project

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Dearest Kevin,

Massive respect to you for choosing, against the advice of your associates,
to make this public. I just watched the intro video and will continue to
follow the channel with deep interest.

As you are very likely aware, I have battled, often unsuccessfully, with
'clinical' depression and more recently been diagnosed with BPD (Borderline
Personality Disorder) and Autism. I recently found out that BPD is the most
discriminated against condition on the planet - which is nice! Health
Insurance costs up to 10 times more than any other condition. The stigma
behind these conditions is what can perpetuate them if not checked or
fought.

The NHS just wrote me off their books a year on since my last big incident.
They have to do that though, I understand it's not their fault. But, in the
last year, I have learnt a lot. I have learned the Meaning of Life! It is
simply 'To Make Others Around You Happy'. Helping others is helping
yourself. Showing interest in and care for others is really important. And
so-called 'social media' is deadly and abusive. It is far, far better to
get to know people up close and personal than via a corrupt intermediatory.

I am extremely grateful to all those on this group who supported me and put
up with my behaviour. It will never be forgotten. Also to those closest to
me for all they have done, especially my wife of 24 years, Judith.

I wish you all the success you deserve for both overcoming your conditions
and in maintaining your business. A good example to follow!

All the very best

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
www.pidigital.co.uk
+44(1634)402193
+44(7702)116447
'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no
box!'
'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
but it is yourself!'

eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609


On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 13:56, Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> This is initial launch of a new personal project of mine, not strictly
> LiveCode related. I hope you'll indulge this one time me if I post a link
> to it here. Perhaps some of you might be interested in it.
>
> Annihilate Depression is a practical guide to overcoming depression based
> on my experiences:
> http://annihilatedepression.com
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kevin
>
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RE: [OT] Personal project

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Kevin,

Thanks for sharing, very inspirational. I have a family member with
depression so I have seen what depression can do(or not do) for a person's
well being.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Subject: [OT] Personal project

Hi folks,

This is initial launch of a new personal project of mine, not strictly
LiveCode related. I hope you'll indulge this one time me if I post a link to
it here. Perhaps some of you might be interested in it.

Annihilate Depression is a practical guide to overcoming depression based on
my experiences:
http://annihilatedepression.com 

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: [OT] Personal project

[Jjs via use-livecode]

Very good! My wife has suffered for years with depression and social anxiety. 
Good to share knowledge about this, which is not recognised enough by people 
until it hits themselves.

Tom Glod via use-livecode  schreef op 24 oktober 
2019 16:00:46 CEST:
>Tons of respect for creating that. Lots of people suffer from it, and
>the
>more tools and testimonials we have the better.
>
>Great site as well!
>
>On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 8:57 AM Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
>use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
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>> Hi folks,
>>
>> This is initial launch of a new personal project of mine, not
>strictly
>> LiveCode related. I hope you'll indulge this one time me if I post a
>link
>> to it here. Perhaps some of you might be interested in it.
>>
>> Annihilate Depression is a practical guide to overcoming depression
>based
>> on my experiences:
>> http://annihilatedepression.com
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
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[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Tons of respect for creating that. Lots of people suffer from it, and the
more tools and testimonials we have the better.

Great site as well!

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 8:57 AM Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
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> Hi folks,
>
> This is initial launch of a new personal project of mine, not strictly
> LiveCode related. I hope you'll indulge this one time me if I post a link
> to it here. Perhaps some of you might be interested in it.
>
> Annihilate Depression is a practical guide to overcoming depression based
> on my experiences:
> http://annihilatedepression.com
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kevin
>
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[OT] Personal project

[Kevin Miller via use-livecode]

Hi folks,

This is initial launch of a new personal project of mine, not strictly LiveCode 
related. I hope you'll indulge this one time me if I post a link to it here. 
Perhaps some of you might be interested in it.

Annihilate Depression is a practical guide to overcoming depression based on my 
experiences:
http://annihilatedepression.com 

Kind regards,

Kevin

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