Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
Kind of like praying that Darth Vader doesn’t alter the agreement further. ;-) Bob S > On Apr 9, 2020, at 11:15 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > >> >> Am 09.04.2020 um 20:10 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode >> : >> >> On 4/9/20 11:52 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: >>> But fortunately the guidelines make exceptions: >>> Sign in with Apple is not required if: >>> Your app exclusively uses your company’s own account setup and sign-in >>> systems. >> >> Thank God. I almost had a heart attack. > Same here. I was really shocked, but thought i should have closer look at the > guidelines. > > So let us keep our fingers crossed that Apple does not change the exceptions. > - > Matthias Rebbe > Life Is Too Short For Boring Code ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
This IS for parity. When Apple announced this at WWDC last year, the pitch was that IF you chose to allow Google or Facebook signin THEN you had to add Apple signin on the top of the other two logos. If you didn’t have any preferential signin then you didn’t need to change anything. As a user, I would NOT use Google or Facebook signin because of tracking issues. I LOVE signing in securely and anonymously via Apple. To me, this is a good thing that I really approve of. Kelly Sent from the iPad > On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode > wrote: > > This is for parity... if you allow Facebook or Google federated > authentication then you need to add Apple as an option. > > Thanks, > Brian >> On Apr 9, 2020, 2:10 PM -0400, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode >> , wrote: >>> On 4/9/20 11:52 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: >>> But fortunately the guidelines make exceptions: >>> >>> Sign in with Apple is not required if: >>> Your app exclusively uses your company’s own account setup and sign-in >>> systems. >> >> Thank God. I almost had a heart attack. >> >> -- >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
Don´t remind me to that.. If such thing ever happens again i will stop developing for iOS. And if Apple ever cancels the possibility to publish outside of the Mac Appstore then i will stop developing for Mac. I mainly develop for Windows, but as i am developing on a Mac i used the opportunity to develop also for iOS and Mac OS. But fortunately my business does not depend on iOS/Mac development. - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > Am 09.04.2020 um 20:23 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > : > > Matthias Rebbe wrote: > > So let us keep our fingers crossed that Apple does not change the > > exceptions. > > The debacle around iOS SDK v4.0 Section 3.3.1 in 2010 reminds us to remain > wary of such things at all times... > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > > ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
Matthias Rebbe wrote: > So let us keep our fingers crossed that Apple does not change the > exceptions. The debacle around iOS SDK v4.0 Section 3.3.1 in 2010 reminds us to remain wary of such things at all times... -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
> Am 09.04.2020 um 20:10 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > : > > On 4/9/20 11:52 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: >> But fortunately the guidelines make exceptions: >> Sign in with Apple is not required if: >> Your app exclusively uses your company’s own account setup and sign-in >> systems. > > Thank God. I almost had a heart attack. Same here. I was really shocked, but thought i should have closer look at the guidelines. So let us keep our fingers crossed that Apple does not change the exceptions. - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
This is for parity... if you allow Facebook or Google federated authentication then you need to add Apple as an option. Thanks, Brian On Apr 9, 2020, 2:10 PM -0400, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode , wrote: > On 4/9/20 11:52 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: > > But fortunately the guidelines make exceptions: > > > > Sign in with Apple is not required if: > > Your app exclusively uses your company’s own account setup and sign-in > > systems. > > Thank God. I almost had a heart attack. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
On 4/9/20 11:52 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: But fortunately the guidelines make exceptions: Sign in with Apple is not required if: Your app exclusively uses your company’s own account setup and sign-in systems. Thank God. I almost had a heart attack. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > Am 09.04.2020 um 18:51 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > : > > Ralph DiMola wrote: > > From App developer email I just received: > > > > Please note that all apps that authenticate or set up user accounts > > must support Sign in with Apple if required by guideline 4.8 of the > > App Store Review Guidelines. New apps must follow guideline 4.8 and > > Human Interface Guidelines on Sign in with Apple starting April 30, > > 2020. App updates must follow these guidelines starting June 30, 2020. > > > > Can we do this? > > Or would we want to? > > I'm hoping I misunderstand that, because it sounds like the most onerous and > invasive thing I've ever read from that powerful controlling entity, far > worse than even their demand a few years ago to control the file format of > every Mac app's prefs settings. > > Do you have a link where we can learn more? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > > ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
I was briefly shocked when i read your post. I am currently developing a service app, which allows to authenticate using already existing online shop login data. That login data is used not only for the online shop, but also to authenticate to webservices to download price data, fetch shipment information and so on. The new app was planned as a mobile companion which allows to use all the web services in a more convenient way on a smartphone. So in general the guidlines would mean that i cannot use the shop login data to authentication in the app. But fortunately the guidelines make exceptions: >>> Sign in with Apple is not required if: Your app exclusively uses your company’s own account setup and sign-in systems. Your app is an education, enterprise, or business app that requires the user to sign in with an existing education or enterprise account. Your app uses a government or industry-backed citizen identification system or electronic ID to authenticate users. Your app is a client for a specific third-party service and users are required to sign in to their mail, social media, or other third-party account directly to access their content. <<< So the first one allows us to use the shop login data. Phew.. - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > Am 09.04.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > : > > From App developer email I just received: > > Please note that all apps that authenticate or set up user accounts must > support Sign in with Apple if required by guideline 4.8 of the App Store > Review Guidelines. New apps must follow guideline 4.8 and Human Interface > Guidelines on Sign in with Apple starting April 30, 2020. App updates must > follow these guidelines starting June 30, 2020. > > Can we do this? > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline
Ralph DiMola wrote: From App developer email I just received: > > Please note that all apps that authenticate or set up user accounts > must support Sign in with Apple if required by guideline 4.8 of the > App Store Review Guidelines. New apps must follow guideline 4.8 and > Human Interface Guidelines on Sign in with Apple starting April 30, > 2020. App updates must follow these guidelines starting June 30, 2020. > > Can we do this? Or would we want to? I'm hoping I misunderstand that, because it sounds like the most onerous and invasive thing I've ever read from that powerful controlling entity, far worse than even their demand a few years ago to control the file format of every Mac app's prefs settings. Do you have a link where we can learn more? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Another Apple iOS Deadline
>From App developer email I just received: Please note that all apps that authenticate or set up user accounts must support Sign in with Apple if required by guideline 4.8 of the App Store Review Guidelines. New apps must follow guideline 4.8 and Human Interface Guidelines on Sign in with Apple starting April 30, 2020. App updates must follow these guidelines starting June 30, 2020. Can we do this? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
