Re: Apple Notarization changes...

[Mark Smith via use-livecode]

Hi Paul, my sentiments exactly. I also shudder at having to change, modify or 
upgrade any aspect of the development environment because, like a set of 
dominoes, once you change one thing you are pretty much committed to having to 
upgrade and change everything else as well. Its an unfortunate aspect of 
developing in the modern computer age but tools like Matthias’s 
MrSignNotarizeHelperV4 makes it a LOT less bumpy.  I probably would have given 
up ages ago without it!!

Mark

> On 17 Jul 2023, at 6:11 pm, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm glad the lesson and tool exists and thanks for the link.
> 
> On the negative side, I just found the Apple developer Xcode page that shows 
> that Xcode 13minimum OS version is  macOS Big Sur 11.3
> 
> So, no more Mojave. Huge bummer for me.
> 
> We have a macBook Air with Ventura (latest version), so I guess it is time to 
> set up and get used to Xcode 15. Ugh, I have when OS vendors change things. 
> We have enough changes we need to make in our own products we can't keep up 
> with :-(
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/17/2023 12:48 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>>> 2) Has Livecode (or anyone else) updated lessons. documentation, help apps, 
>>> etc, for using this new notarytool? If so, can anyone point me to it?
>>> 
>> see here
>> https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/1653720-code-signing-and-notarizing-your-lc-standalone-for-distribution-outside-the-mac-appstore-with-xcode-13-and-up
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> November 1 is still a ways off, but I find Apple Notarization so 
>>> incomprehensible that once I get a set of steps to work, I document them 
>>> and follow them verbatim and the thought of trying to figure out what this 
>>> change means is daunting!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Apple Notarization changes...

[Mark Smith via use-livecode]

Matthias, thanks for upgrading your lesson plan to work with the new signing 
tool. It’s an invaluable asset and assistance to the community of mobile app 
developers. 

Mark

> On 17 Jul 2023, at 5:48 pm, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 2) Has Livecode (or anyone else) updated lessons. documentation, help apps, 
>> etc, for using this new notarytool? If so, can anyone point me to it?
>> 
> see here 
> https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/1653720-code-signing-and-notarizing-your-lc-standalone-for-distribution-outside-the-mac-appstore-with-xcode-13-and-up
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> November 1 is still a ways off, but I find Apple Notarization so 
>> incomprehensible that once I get a set of steps to work, I document them and 
>> follow them verbatim and the thought of trying to figure out what this 
>> change means is daunting!
>> 
>> 
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Re: Apple Notarization changes...

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

@Paul : Matthias' helper stack is a great gift to the community. I think 
the LC team even uses it. You'll never have to use Terminal or Xcode again.


You can download the stack from the lesson he linked to, then scroll down 
to section 9 to see the setup.

--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On July 17, 2023 11:50:50 AM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
 wrote:




2) Has Livecode (or anyone else) updated lessons. documentation, help apps, 
etc, for using this new notarytool? If so, can anyone point me to it?

see here
https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/1653720-code-signing-and-notarizing-your-lc-standalone-for-distribution-outside-the-mac-appstore-with-xcode-13-and-up



November 1 is still a ways off, but I find Apple Notarization so 
incomprehensible that once I get a set of steps to work, I document them 
and follow them verbatim and the thought of trying to figure out what this 
change means is daunting!




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Re: Apple Notarization changes...

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

Well, I'm glad the lesson and tool exists and thanks for the link.

On the negative side, I just found the Apple developer Xcode page that 
shows that Xcode 13minimum OS version is  macOS Big Sur 11.3


So, no more Mojave. Huge bummer for me.

We have a macBook Air with Ventura (latest version), so I guess it is 
time to set up and get used to Xcode 15. Ugh, I have when OS vendors 
change things. We have enough changes we need to make in our own 
products we can't keep up with :-(




On 7/17/2023 12:48 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

2) Has Livecode (or anyone else) updated lessons. documentation, help apps, 
etc, for using this new notarytool? If so, can anyone point me to it?


see here
https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/1653720-code-signing-and-notarizing-your-lc-standalone-for-distribution-outside-the-mac-appstore-with-xcode-13-and-up




November 1 is still a ways off, but I find Apple Notarization so 
incomprehensible that once I get a set of steps to work, I document them and 
follow them verbatim and the thought of trying to figure out what this change 
means is daunting!



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Re: Apple Notarization changes...

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

> 
> 2) Has Livecode (or anyone else) updated lessons. documentation, help apps, 
> etc, for using this new notarytool? If so, can anyone point me to it?
> 
see here 
https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/1653720-code-signing-and-notarizing-your-lc-standalone-for-distribution-outside-the-mac-appstore-with-xcode-13-and-up



> November 1 is still a ways off, but I find Apple Notarization so 
> incomprehensible that once I get a set of steps to work, I document them and 
> follow them verbatim and the thought of trying to figure out what this change 
> means is daunting!
> 
> 
> 
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Apple Notarization changes...

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

I got an email from Apple Developer date 13-Jun-2023 that:

"We’re reaching out because you recently used the altool command-line 
utility to notarize your macOS software with Apple. As announced last 
year at WWDC22, if you’re still using altool with the Apple notary 
service, you should transition to the notarytool command-line utility as 
soon as possible. Notarizing software with altool was deprecated in 
Xcode 13, and the Apple notary service will no longer accept uploads 
from altool as of November 1, 2023. Existing notarized software will 
continue to function properly. "


So, my questions for the Hivemind and/or the Mothership are:

1) I currently code sign and notarize using some version of Xcode under 
Mojave on a MacBook Pro. I do not really want to upgrade the OS from 
Mojave. The MacBook pro literal only function is macOS code signing and 
notarization. It sits off line and doesn't get any updates because I am 
terrified some update will break the code signing and notarization 
process. So, is there a version of Xcode that will run on Mojave and 
supports the new notarytool (vs attool as the terminal command - I have 
been using is "xcrun altool -type osx --notarize-app --primary-bundle-id 
... etc.")?

What is the minimum OS/Xcode combination that lets me use notarytool?

2) Has Livecode (or anyone else) updated lessons. documentation, help 
apps, etc, for using this new notarytool? If so, can anyone point me to it?


November 1 is still a ways off, but I find Apple Notarization so 
incomprehensible that once I get a set of steps to work, I document them 
and follow them verbatim and the thought of trying to figure out what 
this change means is daunting!




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