RE: Display PDF on Android

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Correct, I misspoke. Running the JavaScript is the limitation on most
desktop browsers. The reason for setting up the local web server is to be
able to test pdfjs in the IDE. The browser widget  is a Chromium codebase.
This way one can tweak pdfjs and test in the IDE before deploying to
Android.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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Subject: Re: Display PDF on Android

Ralph DiMola wrote:

 > ...because one can't open local files on a desktop browser.

Oh?  Most browsers except Firefox won't execute JavaScript from local files,
but PFDs open in Firefox and Chrome here just fine.

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Re: Display PDF on Android

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Ralph DiMola wrote:

> ...because one can't open local files on a desktop browser.

Oh?  Most browsers except Firefox won't execute JavaScript from local 
files, but PFDs open in Firefox and Chrome here just fine.


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RE: Display PDF on Android

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Before the PDF Widget was available I used pdfjs(github) with the browser
widget. It's a decent PDF viewer. It does not work directly in the IDE
because one can't open local files on a desktop browser. This is NOT a
restriction on Android so pdfjs works on mobile(including iOS). I used a
local web server for testing in the IDE using pdfjs before the browser
widget was released. The other problem is that the Android OS does not open
PDFs natively. I see this as an Android not an LC issue. If you browse to a
PDF in say... Chrome, the PDF is downloaded and then Android user must
supply a PDF reader. In 2020 I find this ridicules. To get around this in LC
one must intercept the PDF URL and download it to the local storage and the
display using either pdfjs or the PDF Widget.

Fun and Games!

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Subject: Re: Display PDF on Android

On 1/6/2020 11:28 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>
> You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with
LiveCode, Ltd.
> This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy!
>
>

Okay, then this (https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22521) is not
a really a technical enhancement request.

I would expect LC to have to spend time reviewing the Bugzilla entry to then
just make it as RESOLVED since XPDF widget is available for anyone who pays
for it. Making this an technical enhancement request just doesn'tseem like
the place for a licensing issue.

You would just like the XPDF widget for a lower cost (Indy pricing vs
Business pricing). That is entirely a licensing issue to discuss with
LiveCode, LTD. Ask them for a discount or a special package or something.

Not trying to be an A$$hole or anything, I just think you'd have more
success negotiating some way you can afford to use the XPDF widget.


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Re: Display PDF on Android

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Paul,

> Am 06.01.2020 um 18:06 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 1/6/2020 11:28 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>> You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with 
>> LiveCode, Ltd.
>> This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy!
> Okay, then this (https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22521) is not a 
> really a technical enhancement request.

OK, maybe, but the message should be clear.

> I would expect LC to have to spend time reviewing the Bugzilla entry to then 
> just make it as RESOLVED since XPDF widget is available for anyone who pays 
> for it. Making this an technical enhancement request just doesn'tseem like 
> the place for a licensing issue.
> 
> You would just like the XPDF widget for a lower cost (Indy pricing vs 
> Business pricing). That is entirely a licensing issue to discuss with 
> LiveCode, LTD. Ask them for a discount or a special package or something.
> 
> Not trying to be an A$$hole or anything, I just think you'd have more success 
> negotiating some way you can afford to use the XPDF widget.

I personally do not need this widget, I don't own any mobile device, be it a 
cellphone or table, 
and I am not developing for the mobile platform. :-)

I am just interested in an adequate user experience for everyone using the 
mobile paltform!
some of the folks I am mentoring actually need this.

Right now some of them are maintaining two version of the app (HAVE TO!):
One for iOS, where we can print to and display PDF with build-in means, but the 
Android version
can not print to PDF, we need to use a PNG, same for displaying data.

I don't this this does look very professional in 2020.

And I think it is paradox that we can print to PDF on Android in LC 9.6 but 
still cannot display the 
generated PDF file!


Best

Klaus
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Re: Display PDF on Android

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

I don´t think that Klaus was just asking for himself, but for all developers 
with a lower license type than Business.

As long as the Android Browser does not support displaying PDF files, i think 
that request is a legitimate one.

But you are correct, that this is not a feature request. 

Matthias

Matthias Rebbe

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> Am 06.01.2020 um 18:06 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> On 1/6/2020 11:28 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>> You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with 
>> LiveCode, Ltd.
>> This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy!
>> 
>> 
> 
> Okay, then this (https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22521 
> ) is not a really a 
> technical enhancement request.
> 
> I would expect LC to have to spend time reviewing the Bugzilla entry to then 
> just make it as RESOLVED since XPDF widget is available for anyone who pays 
> for it. Making this an technical enhancement request just doesn'tseem like 
> the place for a licensing issue.
> 
> You would just like the XPDF widget for a lower cost (Indy pricing vs 
> Business pricing). That is entirely a licensing issue to discuss with 
> LiveCode, LTD. Ask them for a discount or a special package or something.
> 
> Not trying to be an A$$hole or anything, I just think you'd have more success 
> negotiating some way you can afford to use the XPDF widget.
> 
> 
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Re: Display PDF on Android

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 1/6/2020 11:28 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:


You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with 
LiveCode, Ltd.
This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy!




Okay, then this (https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22521) is 
not a really a technical enhancement request.


I would expect LC to have to spend time reviewing the Bugzilla entry to 
then just make it as RESOLVED since XPDF widget is available for anyone 
who pays for it. Making this an technical enhancement request just 
doesn'tseem like the place for a licensing issue.


You would just like the XPDF widget for a lower cost (Indy pricing vs 
Business pricing). That is entirely a licensing issue to discuss with 
LiveCode, LTD. Ask them for a discount or a special package or something.


Not trying to be an A$$hole or anything, I just think you'd have more 
success negotiating some way you can afford to use the XPDF widget.



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Re: Display PDF on Android

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Paul,

> Am 06.01.2020 um 17:02 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I though the XPDF widget works on all platforms, including Android?

It probably does, but see below...

> You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with 
> LiveCode, Ltd.

This widget only comes with LC BUSINESS, not Indy!

> On 1/5/2020 11:17 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just filed an enhancement request to give us a way to display (local) PFDs 
>> on Android!
>> 
>> 
>> I think in 2020 it IS about time for this, especially since we will finally 
>> be able to
>> "print to PDF" in LC 9.6!

Best

Klaus

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Re: Display PDF on Android

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

I though the XPDF widget works on all platforms, including Android?

You just need to have the appropriate licensed version of LC. Check with 
LiveCode, Ltd.




On 1/5/2020 11:17 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi all,

I just filed an enhancement request to give us a way to display (local) PFDs on 
Android!


I think in 2020 it IS about time for this, especially since we will finally be 
able to
"print to PDF" in LC 9.6!


Best

Klaus

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Display PDF on Android

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

I just filed an enhancement request to give us a way to display (local) PFDs on 
Android!


I think in 2020 it IS about time for this, especially since we will finally be 
able to
"print to PDF" in LC 9.6!


Best

Klaus

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