Re: Editing very wide and tall stacks.
Pete wrote: Wouldn't it be great if LC provided scrollbars at the card level... It would be great but only for a relatively few edge cases. Most apps that have scrolling regions also have non-scrolling ones, such as a toolbar or other controls, so with groups we're in control of what can be scrolled and what remains stationary. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Editing very wide and tall stacks.
That was a pun, wasn't it! On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Wouldn't it be great if LC provided scrollbars at the card level... It would be great but only for a relatively few edge cases. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Editing very wide and tall stacks.
On 03/10/2012 05:50 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: That was a pun, wasn't it! On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Wouldn't it be great if LC provided scrollbars at the card level... It would be great but only for a relatively few edge cases. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Of course, if one wanted, one could select all the controls on a card, group them, and set them up with scrollbars to conform to one's monitor resolution. Then make the card conform to the monitor res., but have larger real estate available. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Editing very wide and tall stacks.
An alternative for developing high area stacks would be a half resolution mode. The stack rect and other sizes would be in real pixels but the other pixels would be in virtual pixels, two for each real pixel. I'm doing something like that scripted. I'm developing at half size and the thing doubles in size when put into a full screen. It learns the half size properties so I can do a crude test on the wrong monitor and then go back. I'm now thinking that using Parallels at full screen to allow oversized resolution might also be a solution, but Parallels has rendering problems in that case. That might also be nice for the final monitor testing, but Parallels is limited to only a few size settings from within Windows, though it can do a lot by resizing in window mode. And the Parallels Display Adapter does not rotate. I'm also thinking of scrollbars that hang outside the window. And I'm still thinking about Mark Schonewille's idea. Dar On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Pete wrote: Wouldn't it be great if LC provided scrollbars at the card level... It would be great but only for a relatively few edge cases. Most apps that have scrolling regions also have non-scrolling ones, such as a toolbar or other controls, so with groups we're in control of what can be scrolled and what remains stationary. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode --- Dar Scott dba Dar Scott Consulting 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, home, office phone: +1 505 299 9497 For Skype and fax, please contact. d...@swcp.com Computer Programming and tinkering, often making LiveCode libraries and externals, sometimes writing associated microcontroller firmware. --- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Editing very wide and tall stacks.
On 03/10/2012 06:04 PM, Dar Scott wrote: An alternative for developing high area stacks would be a half resolution mode. The stack rect and other sizes would be in real pixels but the other pixels would be in virtual pixels, two for each real pixel. ??? Virtual pixels ??? Are these something like fairies at the bottom of the garden (virtually pixies). Err; sorry, that one just slipped out. ??? Would be grateful if you could explain what 'virtual pixels' are, and how one can do all that. I'm doing something like that scripted. I'm developing at half size and the thing doubles in size when put into a full screen. It learns the half size properties so I can do a crude test on the wrong monitor and then go back. I'm now thinking that using Parallels at full screen to allow oversized resolution might also be a solution, but Parallels has rendering problems in that case. That might also be nice for the final monitor testing, but Parallels is limited to only a few size settings from within Windows, though it can do a lot by resizing in window mode. And the Parallels Display Adapter does not rotate. I'm also thinking of scrollbars that hang outside the window. And I'm still thinking about Mark Schonewille's idea. Dar On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Pete wrote: Wouldn't it be great if LC provided scrollbars at the card level... It would be great but only for a relatively few edge cases. Most apps that have scrolling regions also have non-scrolling ones, such as a toolbar or other controls, so with groups we're in control of what can be scrolled and what remains stationary. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode --- Dar Scott dba Dar Scott Consulting 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, home, office phone: +1 505 299 9497 For Skype and fax, please contact. d...@swcp.com Computer Programming and tinkering, often making LiveCode libraries and externals, sometimes writing associated microcontroller firmware. --- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Editing very wide and tall stacks.
Hi Scott, If you group all controls and groups and set Select Grouped Controls to false (in the Edit menu) you can only select the main group and not the nested groups. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 10 mrt 2012, at 04:37, Dar Scott wrote: Hi, Mark! I don't understand the problem with select Grouped Controls. Mental block I guess. What is the issue here? Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Editing very wide and tall stacks.
I need to edit the GUI on a stack that is very wide and very tall for a full screen app on a large screen that is much larger than my development environment. I also want to do some testing (click buttons, watch images fly around) on the development system. Ideas? (I suspect there is some feature I have missed over the years and I'm going to feel silly.) Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Editing very wide and tall stacks.
Dar, Group everything, set the rect of the group to the card rect. Disable the scroll bars in full-screen mode. The only problem is that turning off Select Grouped Controls can be problematic, but you can probably write a front script for that. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 10 mrt 2012, at 02:16, Dar Scott wrote: I need to edit the GUI on a stack that is very wide and very tall for a full screen app on a large screen that is much larger than my development environment. I also want to do some testing (click buttons, watch images fly around) on the development system. Ideas? (I suspect there is some feature I have missed over the years and I'm going to feel silly.) Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Editing very wide and tall stacks.
Wouldn't it be great if LC provided scrollbars at the card level... Pete On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Dar, Group everything, set the rect of the group to the card rect. Disable the scroll bars in full-screen mode. The only problem is that turning off Select Grouped Controls can be problematic, but you can probably write a front script for that. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 10 mrt 2012, at 02:16, Dar Scott wrote: I need to edit the GUI on a stack that is very wide and very tall for a full screen app on a large screen that is much larger than my development environment. I also want to do some testing (click buttons, watch images fly around) on the development system. Ideas? (I suspect there is some feature I have missed over the years and I'm going to feel silly.) Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Editing very wide and tall stacks.
Hi, Mark! I don't understand the problem with select Grouped Controls. Mental block I guess. What is the issue here? Dar On Mar 9, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Dar, Group everything, set the rect of the group to the card rect. Disable the scroll bars in full-screen mode. The only problem is that turning off Select Grouped Controls can be problematic, but you can probably write a front script for that. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 10 mrt 2012, at 02:16, Dar Scott wrote: I need to edit the GUI on a stack that is very wide and very tall for a full screen app on a large screen that is much larger than my development environment. I also want to do some testing (click buttons, watch images fly around) on the development system. Ideas? (I suspect there is some feature I have missed over the years and I'm going to feel silly.) Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode --- Dar Scott dba Dar Scott Consulting 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, home, office phone: +1 505 299 9497 For Skype and fax, please contact. d...@swcp.com Computer Programming and tinkering, often making LiveCode libraries and externals, sometimes writing associated microcontroller firmware. --- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
