Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Just to close my end of this thread. Simple email to support and the problem was fixed. Loaded up the disk to 105 GB and received an email from Heather saying, and I'm paraphrasing here, I like you but you're over 100 GB. Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4694146.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
On 7/21/2015 1:34 PM, Simon wrote: Just to close my end of this thread. Simple email to support and the problem was fixed. Loaded up the disk to 105 GB and received an email from Heather saying, and I'm paraphrasing here, I like you but you're over 100 GB. I like you too for posting that. It irritates me when some people (not you, but some responders to the thread) assume malice on the part of the company. Anyone who has met them or worked with them knows they are honest and responsible people who take their commitments very seriously. I love Heather's comment. Sounds just like her. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
On 07/21/2015 12:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I like you too for posting that. It irritates me when some people (not you, but some responders to the thread) assume malice on the part of the company. Anyone who has met them or worked with them knows they are honest and responsible people who take their commitments very seriously. I love Heather's comment. Sounds just like her. :) LOL. I'm thinking of filling my disk space just so I can get one of those emails from Heather. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Dear list folks, Just to put this one to bed - the Founders package always was and will remain, 100GB storage. If you do not see that in your Founders account then there is either a reporting error or a setup error, both of which we will be happy to correct for you if you email us at the support address for on-rev: supp...@on-rev.com mailto:supp...@on-rev.com (or on-...@runrev.com mailto:on-...@runrev.com will also work). I do not think cPanel is reporting space usage correctly by the sound of it. Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com On 12 Jul 2015, at 05:29, Simon si...@asato-media.com wrote: Ok I do have to admit that during the HTML5 crowdfunding I went with the Lifetime Pro and there was in the fine print that it meant 10 years. Now for me that indicated some sort of legal speak and that there was probably some enforceable case that 10 years could be deemed a lifetime. But then there is also the case of when I found the Enterprise edition was for $500K (or 50K? some revenue cap) or less on the website. Heather quickly had that fixed. So that fine print may have been wrong. Anyways, I like LiveCode Ltd. so not a big problem. I wonder about the people who have 100 GB storage because though I can't find it, there was a post by Kevin when this came up before (during the move to France) that said we would retain our 50 GB and he'd get right on it. Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693902.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
TEDennis wrote: re: To Infinity and beyond! Would you mind sharing some of that excess capacity? I don't mean the 'infinity stuff. I mean the beyond stuff. I'm wondering ... does beyond still use a binary system? Only in the world of ‘Toy Story’, the film from which the quote is taken. I’m curious does anyone else see the infinity symbol as the maximum storage limit for your on-rev accountl? Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I don’t see the infinity symbol, but out of curiosity I opened the ‘Disk Space Usage' in the ‘Files’ panel of cPanel and it reports: 3,241.86 MB total disk space used. 50,000.00 MB quota limit (0.00 MB used). However, the summary in the ‘Stats’ panel on the left shows: Disk Space Usage 0 bytes / 48.83 GB So it appears to me that the quota limit shown in cPanel is not being used. Paul On Jul 12, 2015, at 12:57, Jim Lambert j...@netrin.com wrote: TEDennis wrote: re: To Infinity and beyond! Would you mind sharing some of that excess capacity? I don't mean the 'infinity stuff. I mean the beyond stuff. I'm wondering ... does beyond still use a binary system? Only in the world of ‘Toy Story’, the film from which the quote is taken. I’m curious does anyone else see the infinity symbol as the maximum storage limit for your on-rev accountl? Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [fan boy] Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Hello John, Just out of curiosity, if you have a “Forever Enterprise license then are you interested in the Indy license for other members of a team? -- Scott Morrow On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:10 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: They have made a lot of changes. My Enterprise license is Forever. I am glad to hear you have the correct amount of space and I hope everyone else does too. I am not using any of my space. I also have a large amount of space with my internet provider that I am not using. Anytime I want I can use all the space i need for free. The Indy offer does not interest me because I have reason to believe the program I am going to sell will exceed the Indy limits. That is why I said I am more interested in the business license. I am developing that program with Revolution so all of my work falls within my Enterprise license. Recently there were post about developing commercial products without a commercial license. What ever the rules are I am legally writing my code. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: If I had paid ahead for an enterprise license many years into the future and then the company went open source and licensing schemes changed and different products became available and I still continued to get a commercial license for everything, then I would tend to trust the Indy offer. And hey, that’s exactly what has happened! And my On-Rev Founders account shows me allocated 97.66 GB. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com office 1-800-615-0867 -- On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: No Richard, it means if I eat kittens I like to eat pissy. I ddi not start this conversation about the size limits being changed. I stated that I am a on-rev founder and that I am not at this time using any of the space allocated to me. I did not check the space so I said IF they changed the space and made it lower then I personally have no reason to believe the Indie license with its forever price will be forever. Yes I received that from LIveCode and any lifetime agreements that are not to be honored for your lifetime make me think a Forever agreement will not last either. I said IF because I do not know for sure and I gave them a small benefit of the doubt. But it sounded to me like the space was lowered and if I remember correctly they talked about doing that in the past so it made me think they actually did lower it but I do not know so it remains IF. I see you failed to provide evidence to prove it one way off another and yet attacked me for saying IF they lowered the space. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: JB wrote: I am not using any space but I have no reason to trust the Indie License forever price if forever has a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team. Using if like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things without being accountable to them. Let me try: If JB eats kittens, surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets. Yep, good fun. Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or are you just making stuff up? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Hi, we have three founder packages here and all show 100GB in cPanel. If yours does not, then just drop support on-...@runrev.com an email. I am sure they will fix it. I think this “downgrade happened when accounts where moved to newer servers. I am pretty sure it was not intended. Matthias Am 11.07.2015 um 02:21 schrieb Simon si...@asato-media.com: Hi, I had thought it was 50 GB but my ftp is telling me it's full at 24.2055 GB. Thanks, Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [fan boy] Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
They have made a lot of changes. My Enterprise license is Forever. I am glad to hear you have the correct amount of space and I hope everyone else does too. I am not using any of my space. I also have a large amount of space with my internet provider that I am not using. Anytime I want I can use all the space i need for free. The Indy offer does not interest me because I have reason to believe the program I am going to sell will exceed the Indy limits. That is why I said I am more interested in the business license. I am developing that program with Revolution so all of my work falls within my Enterprise license. Recently there were post about developing commercial products without a commercial license. What ever the rules are I am legally writing my code. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: If I had paid ahead for an enterprise license many years into the future and then the company went open source and licensing schemes changed and different products became available and I still continued to get a commercial license for everything, then I would tend to trust the Indy offer. And hey, that’s exactly what has happened! And my On-Rev Founders account shows me allocated 97.66 GB. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com office 1-800-615-0867 -- On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: No Richard, it means if I eat kittens I like to eat pissy. I ddi not start this conversation about the size limits being changed. I stated that I am a on-rev founder and that I am not at this time using any of the space allocated to me. I did not check the space so I said IF they changed the space and made it lower then I personally have no reason to believe the Indie license with its forever price will be forever. Yes I received that from LIveCode and any lifetime agreements that are not to be honored for your lifetime make me think a Forever agreement will not last either. I said IF because I do not know for sure and I gave them a small benefit of the doubt. But it sounded to me like the space was lowered and if I remember correctly they talked about doing that in the past so it made me think they actually did lower it but I do not know so it remains IF. I see you failed to provide evidence to prove it one way off another and yet attacked me for saying IF they lowered the space. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: JB wrote: I am not using any space but I have no reason to trust the Indie License forever price if forever has a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team. Using if like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things without being accountable to them. Let me try: If JB eats kittens, surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets. Yep, good fun. Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or are you just making stuff up? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [fan boy] Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I am the team! The program is 80 to 90 percent done and do not need anyone else at this point. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: Hello John, Just out of curiosity, if you have a “Forever Enterprise license then are you interested in the Indy license for other members of a team? -- Scott Morrow On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:10 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: They have made a lot of changes. My Enterprise license is Forever. I am glad to hear you have the correct amount of space and I hope everyone else does too. I am not using any of my space. I also have a large amount of space with my internet provider that I am not using. Anytime I want I can use all the space i need for free. The Indy offer does not interest me because I have reason to believe the program I am going to sell will exceed the Indy limits. That is why I said I am more interested in the business license. I am developing that program with Revolution so all of my work falls within my Enterprise license. Recently there were post about developing commercial products without a commercial license. What ever the rules are I am legally writing my code. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: If I had paid ahead for an enterprise license many years into the future and then the company went open source and licensing schemes changed and different products became available and I still continued to get a commercial license for everything, then I would tend to trust the Indy offer. And hey, that’s exactly what has happened! And my On-Rev Founders account shows me allocated 97.66 GB. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com office 1-800-615-0867 -- On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: No Richard, it means if I eat kittens I like to eat pissy. I ddi not start this conversation about the size limits being changed. I stated that I am a on-rev founder and that I am not at this time using any of the space allocated to me. I did not check the space so I said IF they changed the space and made it lower then I personally have no reason to believe the Indie license with its forever price will be forever. Yes I received that from LIveCode and any lifetime agreements that are not to be honored for your lifetime make me think a Forever agreement will not last either. I said IF because I do not know for sure and I gave them a small benefit of the doubt. But it sounded to me like the space was lowered and if I remember correctly they talked about doing that in the past so it made me think they actually did lower it but I do not know so it remains IF. I see you failed to provide evidence to prove it one way off another and yet attacked me for saying IF they lowered the space. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: JB wrote: I am not using any space but I have no reason to trust the Indie License forever price if forever has a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team. Using if like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things without being accountable to them. Let me try: If JB eats kittens, surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets. Yep, good fun. Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or are you just making stuff up? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: [fan boy] Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I was an electrical contractor and did all of that by myself too. People say they want work but it was impossible for me to find someone who I could depend on. They think one job can be a career. It would take me longer to teach a new person in the industry than it would to do the job myself. A large contractor has the money and workers to weed them out and keep good workers. I have been programming by myself since the Vic 20, commodore 64 and Apple //e. I would not know how to run team. That speaks very highly of Kevin Miller. John Balgenorth On Jul 11, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: That’s the same boat that most of us are in, I think. One person driving the entire operation. I’m always interested in how a multi-person LiveCode team would operate. Actually, I’m even more interested in how other individuals operate. Most of us work without being able to observe the workflow of our peers (Hence the recent string of posts on Best way to check if a Field is a label?”) Which is really a sort of best practice conversation. — Scott Morrow On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:49 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I am the team! The program is 80 to 90 percent done and do not need anyone else at this point. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: Hello John, Just out of curiosity, if you have a “Forever Enterprise license then are you interested in the Indy license for other members of a team? -- Scott Morrow On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:10 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: They have made a lot of changes. My Enterprise license is Forever. I am glad to hear you have the correct amount of space and I hope everyone else does too. I am not using any of my space. I also have a large amount of space with my internet provider that I am not using. Anytime I want I can use all the space i need for free. The Indy offer does not interest me because I have reason to believe the program I am going to sell will exceed the Indy limits. That is why I said I am more interested in the business license. I am developing that program with Revolution so all of my work falls within my Enterprise license. Recently there were post about developing commercial products without a commercial license. What ever the rules are I am legally writing my code. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: If I had paid ahead for an enterprise license many years into the future and then the company went open source and licensing schemes changed and different products became available and I still continued to get a commercial license for everything, then I would tend to trust the Indy offer. And hey, that’s exactly what has happened! And my On-Rev Founders account shows me allocated 97.66 GB. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com office 1-800-615-0867 -- On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: No Richard, it means if I eat kittens I like to eat pissy. I ddi not start this conversation about the size limits being changed. I stated that I am a on-rev founder and that I am not at this time using any of the space allocated to me. I did not check the space so I said IF they changed the space and made it lower then I personally have no reason to believe the Indie license with its forever price will be forever. Yes I received that from LIveCode and any lifetime agreements that are not to be honored for your lifetime make me think a Forever agreement will not last either. I said IF because I do not know for sure and I gave them a small benefit of the doubt. But it sounded to me like the space was lowered and if I remember correctly they talked about doing that in the past so it made me think they actually did lower it but I do not know so it remains IF. I see you failed to provide evidence to prove it one way off another and yet attacked me for saying IF they lowered the space. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: JB wrote: I am not using any space but I have no reason to trust the Indie License forever price if forever has a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team. Using if like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things without being accountable to them. Let me try: If JB eats kittens, surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets. Yep, good fun. Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or are you just making stuff up? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for
Re: [fan boy] Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
That’s the same boat that most of us are in, I think. One person driving the entire operation. I’m always interested in how a multi-person LiveCode team would operate. Actually, I’m even more interested in how other individuals operate. Most of us work without being able to observe the workflow of our peers (Hence the recent string of posts on Best way to check if a Field is a label?”) Which is really a sort of best practice conversation. — Scott Morrow On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:49 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I am the team! The program is 80 to 90 percent done and do not need anyone else at this point. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: Hello John, Just out of curiosity, if you have a “Forever Enterprise license then are you interested in the Indy license for other members of a team? -- Scott Morrow On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:10 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: They have made a lot of changes. My Enterprise license is Forever. I am glad to hear you have the correct amount of space and I hope everyone else does too. I am not using any of my space. I also have a large amount of space with my internet provider that I am not using. Anytime I want I can use all the space i need for free. The Indy offer does not interest me because I have reason to believe the program I am going to sell will exceed the Indy limits. That is why I said I am more interested in the business license. I am developing that program with Revolution so all of my work falls within my Enterprise license. Recently there were post about developing commercial products without a commercial license. What ever the rules are I am legally writing my code. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: If I had paid ahead for an enterprise license many years into the future and then the company went open source and licensing schemes changed and different products became available and I still continued to get a commercial license for everything, then I would tend to trust the Indy offer. And hey, that’s exactly what has happened! And my On-Rev Founders account shows me allocated 97.66 GB. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com office 1-800-615-0867 -- On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: No Richard, it means if I eat kittens I like to eat pissy. I ddi not start this conversation about the size limits being changed. I stated that I am a on-rev founder and that I am not at this time using any of the space allocated to me. I did not check the space so I said IF they changed the space and made it lower then I personally have no reason to believe the Indie license with its forever price will be forever. Yes I received that from LIveCode and any lifetime agreements that are not to be honored for your lifetime make me think a Forever agreement will not last either. I said IF because I do not know for sure and I gave them a small benefit of the doubt. But it sounded to me like the space was lowered and if I remember correctly they talked about doing that in the past so it made me think they actually did lower it but I do not know so it remains IF. I see you failed to provide evidence to prove it one way off another and yet attacked me for saying IF they lowered the space. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: JB wrote: I am not using any space but I have no reason to trust the Indie License forever price if forever has a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team. Using if like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things without being accountable to them. Let me try: If JB eats kittens, surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets. Yep, good fun. Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or are you just making stuff up? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
re: To Infinity and beyond! Would you mind sharing some of that excess capacity? I don't mean the 'infinity stuff. I mean the beyond stuff. I'm wondering ... does beyond still use a binary system? TED -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693888.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Everyone I've ever met or spoke to at runrev has been great, and as a group, I think I trust them more than any other group of corporate people i've ever dealt with. Like most, I chalk this sort of thing up to an oops. Unfortunately growing pains can indeed be painful, and nobody can deny RR has been going through some rather large changes. On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com wrote: I'm also on 97.66GB disk usage ...and I also give Kevin the benefit of the doubt, he's earned it... - The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693890.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I also have the founder package, running on diesel. My FTP is failing during uploads, but I can use CPANEL to upload files. My disk space usage report shows the following in the top section: /9,857.63 MB total disk space used. 50,000.00 MB quota limit (0.00 MB used)./ The bottom section of the disk space usage report shows: /9842.01 MB/ I expected to see a quota limit of 100,000.00 MB (100GB). Why it's failing when I'm not even close to that limit is a mystery. I have a circumvent (use File Manager instead of FTP), so it's not a big deal (currently). However, I can't circumvent the frequent down times on a system that brags: /Ultra reliable web hosting/ and /Reliable redundant connectivity/ G ... TED -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693885.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I'm also on 97.66GB disk usage ...and I also give Kevin the benefit of the doubt, he's earned it... - The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693890.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
JB wrote: I ddi not start this conversation about the size limits being changed. True, but while the others have expressed their confidence that any apparent change isn't intentional, your post not only suggested it may have been, but then also went further to suggest that such unilateral changes to contractual obligations may be something they're doing with other agreements as well. Moreover, Mark Wieder offered the sound reminder that many factors can affect apparent disk usage, such as spam bins which have been overflowing with the recent rise in global spam activity, so it may not even be a mistake on their part but just a spam bin that needs to be emptied. Exactly why Simon's disk usage appears lower than he expected is still unknown, but the one thing we do know is that the people at LiveCode Ltd. have consistently honored their license agreements. They've frequently posted here confirming this when questions arise, and I've seen nothing to the contrary in my 18 years of doing business with them. Please stop and think about it for a minute: for any party to attempt to unilaterally alter contractual terms in ways that favor themselves to the detriment of the other party would be a breach of contract in most jurisdictions, and unethical in all of them. That's a very serious allegation, even if raised behind the accountability dodge of if. It boils down to raising unfair questions of character, and if you're going to question the character of any of my friends, whether it's Kevin or Klaus or Scott Rossi or Mark Wieder or anyone else, you will meet with an equally strong response. If you're unhappy with the response to what you've written, next time consider writing something different. I said IF because I do not know for sure and I gave them a small benefit of the doubt. We seem to be in agreement that you don't know what happened with Simon's account, which leaves this reader wondering why you expanded the scope of the discussion to include license agreements no one was talking about. If you want to give them the benefit of the doubt maybe that was a post that didn't need to be sent at all, and just wait until Monday when they'll likely chime in here. I'll wager that when they do they'll once again confirm their commitment to honoring their license and service agreements, as they've consistently done over the years. TL/DR: It would be not only more pleasant but also more productive if we could kindly refrain from random conjecture and instead solve problems by focusing on known facts, and asking appropriate sources of information for any facts needed. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [fan boy] Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Scott Morrow wrote: I’m always interested in how a multi-person LiveCode team would operate. The largest team I ever managed was using Sybase Gain Momentum, and excellent xTalk from yesteryear which has since changed hands so many times I don't know who owns it today. The team had about two dozen people modifying stack files: for programmers writing production tools, and the rest of the staff would use those point-and-click tools to build courseware. Gain had a stack-level check-in/check-out system that was a very good fit for most of the work I did then and since. There are a few ad hoc solutions of that sort members of this community have build for various projects, and Chipp Walters once released a tool called Magic Carpet as a more generalized solution. I've been told that Magic Carpet was re-released as open source a few years ago, but I can't find it this morning (the old altuit.com site doesn't seem reachable from here). In more recent years the focus has shifted to a more granular approach that allows line-by-line comparison and merging, most popularly done via GitHub. Designed for traditional languages in which an app is comprised of hundreds of tiny text files, GitHub has been a challenging solution to attempt to use with LiveCode's binary stack files. The LiveCode team implemented text-file stacks that can be used as libraries a few versions ago, so now at least those can be used with GitHub seamlessly. They're also working on other methods of altering the file format for better integration with GitHub, but I don't think any of that will land in a release version until at least v8.1. In the meantime, most of the projects I work on have between three and five developers, and we generally favor factoring the architecture into separate logically-organized stack files anyway, so it's a small matter to assign owners for each of those across the team according to the team member's strengths and interests. This can work well with small teams (it kept the MetaCard IDE project alive for many years, to this date the longest-running open source project in our community), but in today's open source world we need to support an unknowable number of contributors so I've been experimenting with versioning and merging tools that work directly on the binary stack files. Hopefully I'll get more time between client projects later this year so I can bring those to completion and share them as open source themselves, so they're not only useful to others but also become a test bed for the very workflows they aim to support. Actually, I’m even more interested in how other individuals operate. Most of us work without being able to observe the workflow of our peers (Hence the recent string of posts on Best way to check if a Field is a label?”) Which is really a sort of best practice conversation. Yes, this is a great community that way. I'm always picking up new tricks here. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I’m an on-rev founder and my cPanel says: Disk Space Usage1.5 GB / ∞ Delicious. To Infinity and beyond! Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I am reasonably happy with my statements. The only apology I have is I spelled pussy wrong. John Balgenorth On Jul 11, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: JB wrote: I ddi not start this conversation about the size limits being changed. True, but while the others have expressed their confidence that any apparent change isn't intentional, your post not only suggested it may have been, but then also went further to suggest that such unilateral changes to contractual obligations may be something they're doing with other agreements as well. Moreover, Mark Wieder offered the sound reminder that many factors can affect apparent disk usage, such as spam bins which have been overflowing with the recent rise in global spam activity, so it may not even be a mistake on their part but just a spam bin that needs to be emptied. Exactly why Simon's disk usage appears lower than he expected is still unknown, but the one thing we do know is that the people at LiveCode Ltd. have consistently honored their license agreements. They've frequently posted here confirming this when questions arise, and I've seen nothing to the contrary in my 18 years of doing business with them. Please stop and think about it for a minute: for any party to attempt to unilaterally alter contractual terms in ways that favor themselves to the detriment of the other party would be a breach of contract in most jurisdictions, and unethical in all of them. That's a very serious allegation, even if raised behind the accountability dodge of if. It boils down to raising unfair questions of character, and if you're going to question the character of any of my friends, whether it's Kevin or Klaus or Scott Rossi or Mark Wieder or anyone else, you will meet with an equally strong response. If you're unhappy with the response to what you've written, next time consider writing something different. I said IF because I do not know for sure and I gave them a small benefit of the doubt. We seem to be in agreement that you don't know what happened with Simon's account, which leaves this reader wondering why you expanded the scope of the discussion to include license agreements no one was talking about. If you want to give them the benefit of the doubt maybe that was a post that didn't need to be sent at all, and just wait until Monday when they'll likely chime in here. I'll wager that when they do they'll once again confirm their commitment to honoring their license and service agreements, as they've consistently done over the years. TL/DR: It would be not only more pleasant but also more productive if we could kindly refrain from random conjecture and instead solve problems by focusing on known facts, and asking appropriate sources of information for any facts needed. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Ok I do have to admit that during the HTML5 crowdfunding I went with the Lifetime Pro and there was in the fine print that it meant 10 years. Now for me that indicated some sort of legal speak and that there was probably some enforceable case that 10 years could be deemed a lifetime. But then there is also the case of when I found the Enterprise edition was for $500K (or 50K? some revenue cap) or less on the website. Heather quickly had that fixed. So that fine print may have been wrong. Anyways, I like LiveCode Ltd. so not a big problem. I wonder about the people who have 100 GB storage because though I can't find it, there was a post by Kevin when this came up before (during the move to France) that said we would retain our 50 GB and he'd get right on it. Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693902.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
On 07/10/2015 06:15 PM, Simon wrote: Wow 97? Mine is showing me Disk Space Usage552.96 KB / 48.83 GB Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 5.52 GB / 488.28 GB But because of that 552.96 I never believed that cPanel home page was reliable. I used the Disk Space Usage thingy and that showed me the 24 GB OK - that made me look. I'm showing Disk Space Usage 250.27MB / 48.83 GB and a good half of my usage is in the .spamassassin folder -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
If they are screwing the on-rev founders which I am a on-rev founder, then when you lock in the low price of the Indie License forever you should expect to be screwed in the near future. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm yep, and it shows my cap at 50, so a) its not the 100 promised by the deal, and if you're getting less than 50, thats even worse. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: I just looked up the promotional email I got from way back when and it says this: - Get quality hosting http://www.on-rev.com/hosting/features-chart/?id=G0042P03853, 100GB storage, 500GB bandwidth/month with a range of top end hosting features. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Simon si...@asato-media.com wrote: Hi, I had thought it was 50 GB but my ftp is telling me it's full at 24.2055 GB. Thanks, Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I'm sure its an accident too. For me, not critical, I'm not using much space, but it would be nice to know it was there like its supposed to be. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Simon si...@asato-media.com wrote: Ralph DiMola wrote I'm a founder and cPanel has me at: Disk Space Usage x GB / 97.66 GB Monthly Bandwidth TransferxGB / 488.28 GB Wow 97? Mine is showing me Disk Space Usage552.96 KB / 48.83 GB Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 5.52 GB / 488.28 GB But because of that 552.96 I never believed that cPanel home page was reliable. I used the Disk Space Usage thingy and that showed me the 24 GB Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693864.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Hi, I had thought it was 50 GB but my ftp is telling me it's full at 24.2055 GB. Thanks, Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Ralph DiMola wrote I'm a founder and cPanel has me at: Disk Space Usage x GB / 97.66 GB Monthly Bandwidth TransferxGB / 488.28 GB Wow 97? Mine is showing me Disk Space Usage552.96 KB / 48.83 GB Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 5.52 GB / 488.28 GB But because of that 552.96 I never believed that cPanel home page was reliable. I used the Disk Space Usage thingy and that showed me the 24 GB Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693864.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Hmm yep, and it shows my cap at 50, so a) its not the 100 promised by the deal, and if you're getting less than 50, thats even worse. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: I just looked up the promotional email I got from way back when and it says this: - Get quality hosting http://www.on-rev.com/hosting/features-chart/?id=G0042P03853, 100GB storage, 500GB bandwidth/month with a range of top end hosting features. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Simon si...@asato-media.com wrote: Hi, I had thought it was 50 GB but my ftp is telling me it's full at 24.2055 GB. Thanks, Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
Thanks Mike, And there I was blaming owncloud for deleting a bunch of my local files grrr... I stopped using owncloud and switched to upload only syncing, but if was just a sudden reduction in available disk space that would explain it. Do you think this is Urgent enough to wake up David? Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693859.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
A sudden reduction, nuking files would be rather upsetting. I suspect you're right about the reason. Yeah, you might pop a message towards Scottland. And if you would, you might mention that founders are supposed to have 100g. Not 50. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Simon si...@asato-media.com wrote: Thanks Mike, And there I was blaming owncloud for deleting a bunch of my local files grrr... I stopped using owncloud and switched to upload only syncing, but if was just a sudden reduction in available disk space that would explain it. Do you think this is Urgent enough to wake up David? Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693859.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I'm a founder and cPanel has me at: Disk Space Usagex GB / 97.66 GB Monthly Bandwidth Transfer xGB / 488.28 GB My guess is that with all the server shuffling you got reduced by mistake. If your banging up against the limit wakeup David if not send a support request. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mike Bonner Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 8:57 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB? I just looked up the promotional email I got from way back when and it says this: - Get quality hosting http://www.on-rev.com/hosting/features-chart/?id=G0042P03853, 100GB storage, 500GB bandwidth/month with a range of top end hosting features. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Simon si...@asato-media.com wrote: Hi, I had thought it was 50 GB but my ftp is telling me it's full at 24.2055 GB. Thanks, Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev -package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
JB wrote: I am not using any space but I have no reason to trust the Indie License forever price if forever has a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team. Using if like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things without being accountable to them. Let me try: If JB eats kittens, surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets. Yep, good fun. Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or are you just making stuff up? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I just looked up the promotional email I got from way back when and it says this: - Get quality hosting http://www.on-rev.com/hosting/features-chart/?id=G0042P03853, 100GB storage, 500GB bandwidth/month with a range of top end hosting features. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Simon si...@asato-media.com wrote: Hi, I had thought it was 50 GB but my ftp is telling me it's full at 24.2055 GB. Thanks, Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
I am not using any space but I have no reason to trust the Indie License forever price if forever has a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team. Even so I was more interestested in the Business License so they do not need to worry about it. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure its an accident too. For me, not critical, I'm not using much space, but it would be nice to know it was there like its supposed to be. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Simon si...@asato-media.com wrote: Ralph DiMola wrote I'm a founder and cPanel has me at: Disk Space Usage x GB / 97.66 GB Monthly Bandwidth TransferxGB / 488.28 GB Wow 97? Mine is showing me Disk Space Usage552.96 KB / 48.83 GB Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 5.52 GB / 488.28 GB But because of that 552.96 I never believed that cPanel home page was reliable. I used the Disk Space Usage thingy and that showed me the 24 GB Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Has-the-founders-on-rev-package-been-reduced-to-25-GB-tp4693856p4693864.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
No Richard, it means if I eat kittens I like to eat pissy. I ddi not start this conversation about the size limits being changed. I stated that I am a on-rev founder and that I am not at this time using any of the space allocated to me. I did not check the space so I said IF they changed the space and made it lower then I personally have no reason to believe the Indie license with its forever price will be forever. Yes I received that from LIveCode and any lifetime agreements that are not to be honored for your lifetime make me think a Forever agreement will not last either. I said IF because I do not know for sure and I gave them a small benefit of the doubt. But it sounded to me like the space was lowered and if I remember correctly they talked about doing that in the past so it made me think they actually did lower it but I do not know so it remains IF. I see you failed to provide evidence to prove it one way off another and yet attacked me for saying IF they lowered the space. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: JB wrote: I am not using any space but I have no reason to trust the Indie License forever price if forever has a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team. Using if like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things without being accountable to them. Let me try: If JB eats kittens, surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets. Yep, good fun. Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or are you just making stuff up? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[fan boy] Re: Has the founders on-rev package been reduced to 25 GB?
If I had paid ahead for an enterprise license many years into the future and then the company went open source and licensing schemes changed and different products became available and I still continued to get a commercial license for everything, then I would tend to trust the Indy offer. And hey, that’s exactly what has happened! And my On-Rev Founders account shows me allocated 97.66 GB. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com office 1-800-615-0867 -- On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, JB sund...@pacifier.com wrote: No Richard, it means if I eat kittens I like to eat pissy. I ddi not start this conversation about the size limits being changed. I stated that I am a on-rev founder and that I am not at this time using any of the space allocated to me. I did not check the space so I said IF they changed the space and made it lower then I personally have no reason to believe the Indie license with its forever price will be forever. Yes I received that from LIveCode and any lifetime agreements that are not to be honored for your lifetime make me think a Forever agreement will not last either. I said IF because I do not know for sure and I gave them a small benefit of the doubt. But it sounded to me like the space was lowered and if I remember correctly they talked about doing that in the past so it made me think they actually did lower it but I do not know so it remains IF. I see you failed to provide evidence to prove it one way off another and yet attacked me for saying IF they lowered the space. John Balgenorth On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: JB wrote: I am not using any space but I have no reason to trust the Indie License forever price if forever has a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team. Using if like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things without being accountable to them. Let me try: If JB eats kittens, surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets. Yep, good fun. Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or are you just making stuff up? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
