Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Hi Graham, I congratulate you on your ambition to do this! It seems that the days are long gone when people will pay attention to a content product because it is just that. All the attention (i.e. funding) has moved on to scalable platforms rather than individual works of artifice! Yes, when we started showing people our desktop Music In the Air program they would ask immediately about web delivery, and I looked into LC’s HTML 5. But it definitely turns out that desktop is more doable, cheaper, and technically capable for our program, so we’re sticking with that for the present. Most of our customers have their own personal machine, but school labs can be problematic when the lab admin doesn’t want to install an application. I don’t have enough experience with this to say definitely, but very likely schools with younger students will rely on lab computers with possible restrictions. Also, an app with its required installation probably will have less discoverability by potential users compared to a web application which can be tried out and used immediately. I’ll address your questions about sync in your other posting. Peter ArtsInteractive > On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:11 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks Peter > > It’s encouraging to know about the re-configuring. When I first thought of my > project, some years ago, I could not get any sensible response out of the > original publisher, and eventually gave up, but now I am thinking of reviving > the idea. I think sadly the copyright holder of the CD-ROM is the actual book > publisher, which means I will have to re-do the weary round of trying to get > them to respond. I have an ancient Mac running OS 7 I believe, just to enable > me to look at the CD-ROM in its original form. Better do something before it > stops working! > > I am interested in the fact that you are re-configuring your CD-ROM material > as desktop applications. That was my original idea for my project, but now I > wonder if it should be an app, or indeed whether HTML5 would actually work > (using LiveCode of course, as you say!). My target audience are probably > ordinary folks interested in poetry, and schools. Are your users happy with > the desktop solution? > > Hope this isn’t getting too OT. > > Graham > >> On 11 Feb 2020, at 19:26, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Hi Graham, >> >> It might be easier to track down the copyright holder of the CD-ROM and >> offer to re-publish on a different platform. Copyrights on the design of the >> program/disc itself will definitely apply for a long time. >> >> We are re-configuring some of our earlier work HC into LiveCode as desktop >> applications. Some things can be, of course, done in as HTML 5. Copyright is >> always an issue, especially for licensed, recorded music. >> >> There is obviously a quite large body of great-quality CD-ROM content discs >> from the 1990-2000s that have slipped into the dustbin of history—no longer >> compatible with digital content delivery methods today—with no easy path to >> their revival. Authors and companies have moved on, licensing has expired, >> original files used to create the stuff are on old media (Zip drives) or >> have disappeared. But with effort, it can be done, and in LiveCode, of >> course! >> >> Peter Bogdanoff >> ArtsInteractive >> >>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> That’s excellent information - I would still have to tackle any missed out >>> (obviously I haven’t checked yet) and presumably all the recordings of the >>> poet speaking which are much more recent than the composition dates (though >>> I don’t understand US copyright laws). And there’s Richard Wilbur’s essay… >>> (sigh). Would what one might call the “production design” of a CD-ROM (the >>> look, the graphics, the order of presentation etc) be subject to copyright? >>> I suppose it’s intellectual property. Sorry, this is getting OT. >>> >>> Graham >>> On 11 Feb 2020, at 15:49, dev via use-livecode wrote: https://publicdomain4u.com/as-of-january-1-2019-these-robert-frost-poems-are-public-domain/ > On Feb 11, 2020, at 2:56 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > Personally I have a pet project to re-purpose a very elaborate CD-ROM > about Robert Frost, published by Henry Holt in 1997, but I can never get > anyone to talk to me about the copyright issues. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and man
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Thanks Peter It’s encouraging to know about the re-configuring. When I first thought of my project, some years ago, I could not get any sensible response out of the original publisher, and eventually gave up, but now I am thinking of reviving the idea. I think sadly the copyright holder of the CD-ROM is the actual book publisher, which means I will have to re-do the weary round of trying to get them to respond. I have an ancient Mac running OS 7 I believe, just to enable me to look at the CD-ROM in its original form. Better do something before it stops working! I am interested in the fact that you are re-configuring your CD-ROM material as desktop applications. That was my original idea for my project, but now I wonder if it should be an app, or indeed whether HTML5 would actually work (using LiveCode of course, as you say!). My target audience are probably ordinary folks interested in poetry, and schools. Are your users happy with the desktop solution? Hope this isn’t getting too OT. Graham > On 11 Feb 2020, at 19:26, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Graham, > > It might be easier to track down the copyright holder of the CD-ROM and offer > to re-publish on a different platform. Copyrights on the design of the > program/disc itself will definitely apply for a long time. > > We are re-configuring some of our earlier work HC into LiveCode as desktop > applications. Some things can be, of course, done in as HTML 5. Copyright is > always an issue, especially for licensed, recorded music. > > There is obviously a quite large body of great-quality CD-ROM content discs > from the 1990-2000s that have slipped into the dustbin of history—no longer > compatible with digital content delivery methods today—with no easy path to > their revival. Authors and companies have moved on, licensing has expired, > original files used to create the stuff are on old media (Zip drives) or have > disappeared. But with effort, it can be done, and in LiveCode, of course! > > Peter Bogdanoff > ArtsInteractive > >> On Feb 11, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> That’s excellent information - I would still have to tackle any missed out >> (obviously I haven’t checked yet) and presumably all the recordings of the >> poet speaking which are much more recent than the composition dates (though >> I don’t understand US copyright laws). And there’s Richard Wilbur’s essay… >> (sigh). Would what one might call the “production design” of a CD-ROM (the >> look, the graphics, the order of presentation etc) be subject to copyright? >> I suppose it’s intellectual property. Sorry, this is getting OT. >> >> Graham >> >>> On 11 Feb 2020, at 15:49, dev via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> https://publicdomain4u.com/as-of-january-1-2019-these-robert-frost-poems-are-public-domain/ >>> >>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 2:56 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: Personally I have a pet project to re-purpose a very elaborate CD-ROM about Robert Frost, published by Henry Holt in 1997, but I can never get anyone to talk to me about the copyright issues. >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Hi Graham, It might be easier to track down the copyright holder of the CD-ROM and offer to re-publish on a different platform. Copyrights on the design of the program/disc itself will definitely apply for a long time. We are re-configuring some of our earlier work HC into LiveCode as desktop applications. Some things can be, of course, done in as HTML 5. Copyright is always an issue, especially for licensed, recorded music. There is obviously a quite large body of great-quality CD-ROM content discs from the 1990-2000s that have slipped into the dustbin of history—no longer compatible with digital content delivery methods today—with no easy path to their revival. Authors and companies have moved on, licensing has expired, original files used to create the stuff are on old media (Zip drives) or have disappeared. But with effort, it can be done, and in LiveCode, of course! Peter Bogdanoff ArtsInteractive > On Feb 11, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > That’s excellent information - I would still have to tackle any missed out > (obviously I haven’t checked yet) and presumably all the recordings of the > poet speaking which are much more recent than the composition dates (though I > don’t understand US copyright laws). And there’s Richard Wilbur’s essay… > (sigh). Would what one might call the “production design” of a CD-ROM (the > look, the graphics, the order of presentation etc) be subject to copyright? I > suppose it’s intellectual property. Sorry, this is getting OT. > > Graham > >> On 11 Feb 2020, at 15:49, dev via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> https://publicdomain4u.com/as-of-january-1-2019-these-robert-frost-poems-are-public-domain/ >> >> >>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 2:56 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> Personally I have a pet project to re-purpose a very elaborate CD-ROM about >>> Robert Frost, published by Henry Holt in 1997, but I can never get anyone >>> to talk to me about the copyright issues. >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
That’s excellent information - I would still have to tackle any missed out (obviously I haven’t checked yet) and presumably all the recordings of the poet speaking which are much more recent than the composition dates (though I don’t understand US copyright laws). And there’s Richard Wilbur’s essay… (sigh). Would what one might call the “production design” of a CD-ROM (the look, the graphics, the order of presentation etc) be subject to copyright? I suppose it’s intellectual property. Sorry, this is getting OT. Graham > On 11 Feb 2020, at 15:49, dev via use-livecode > wrote: > > https://publicdomain4u.com/as-of-january-1-2019-these-robert-frost-poems-are-public-domain/ > > >> On Feb 11, 2020, at 2:56 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Personally I have a pet project to re-purpose a very elaborate CD-ROM about >> Robert Frost, published by Henry Holt in 1997, but I can never get anyone to >> talk to me about the copyright issues. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
I code among giants! Bob S > On Feb 10, 2020, at 21:07 , Colin Holgate via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks for that. Voyager did well in the list, 15 out of the 50. 10 of which > were in HyperCard. #1 I programmed on my own, and I also did some work on #4 > and #15. > > >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Hi Colin, >> >> I found this Mac User magazine! >> https://vintageapple.org/macuser/pdf/MacUser_9311_November_1993.pdf >> >> Al >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:21 PM >> Colin Holgate wrote: >>> In 1993 Mac User magazine had a review >>> of the top 50 CD-ROMs, and of those there >>> was an overall winner. >>> The A Hard Day’s Night CD-ROM I made >>> in HyperCard was the overall winner. >>> I was lucky that it was before Myst was >>> released. It would have easily won! >> _ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
https://publicdomain4u.com/as-of-january-1-2019-these-robert-frost-poems-are-public-domain/ > On Feb 11, 2020, at 2:56 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > Personally I have a pet project to re-purpose a very elaborate CD-ROM about > Robert Frost, published by Henry Holt in 1997, but I can never get anyone to > talk to me about the copyright issues. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Bah, I can only claim #17. Raw C (not even C++) on the CD-ROM, but vast amounts of HyperCard used in the production process. Mind you, if Cosmic Osmo only got #29, I consider their rankings very suspect! On 11/02/2020 05:07, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: Thanks for that. Voyager did well in the list, 15 out of the 50. 10 of which were in HyperCard. #1 I programmed on my own, and I also did some work on #4 and #15. On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote: Hi Colin, I found this Mac User magazine! https://vintageapple.org/macuser/pdf/MacUser_9311_November_1993.pdf Al On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:21 PM Colin Holgate wrote: In 1993 Mac User magazine had a review of the top 50 CD-ROMs, and of those there was an overall winner. The A Hard Day’s Night CD-ROM I made in HyperCard was the overall winner. I was lucky that it was before Myst was released. It would have easily won! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
I liked those music CD-ROMs! There was an excellent one of a late Beethoven string quartet. I forget which one. Since this year is Beethoven’s 250th birthday, perhaps it’s time to think of another way of presenting this material! I’ve already been to several performances of these wonderful pieces in London, and it’s an endless task to appreciate them, certainly for a non-musician like me. Bring on the digital analysis! Personally I have a pet project to re-purpose a very elaborate CD-ROM about Robert Frost, published by Henry Holt in 1997, but I can never get anyone to talk to me about the copyright issues. A bit OT, I know… Graham > On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:35, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode > wrote: > > Colin was a monster programmer at Voyager! > > I myself worked on the Voyager music titles #9, 21, 37, 38, 39, producing the > first two, the Stravinsky and Mozart programs, and I’m still working with > Robert Winter, the author, after 30 years. All HyperCard with custom > Xcommands for music score animation and CD-ROM/video disc player control. > > Peter Bogdanoff > ArtsInteractive > > >> On Feb 11, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Thanks for that. Voyager did well in the list, 15 out of the 50. 10 of which >> were in HyperCard. #1 I programmed on my own, and I also did some work on #4 >> and #15. >> >> >>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Colin, >>> >>> I found this Mac User magazine! >>> https://vintageapple.org/macuser/pdf/MacUser_9311_November_1993.pdf >>> >>> Al >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:21 PM >>> Colin Holgate wrote: In 1993 Mac User magazine had a review of the top 50 CD-ROMs, and of those there was an overall winner. The A Hard Day’s Night CD-ROM I made in HyperCard was the overall winner. I was lucky that it was before Myst was released. It would have easily won! >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Colin was a monster programmer at Voyager! I myself worked on the Voyager music titles #9, 21, 37, 38, 39, producing the first two, the Stravinsky and Mozart programs, and I’m still working with Robert Winter, the author, after 30 years. All HyperCard with custom Xcommands for music score animation and CD-ROM/video disc player control. Peter Bogdanoff ArtsInteractive > On Feb 11, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks for that. Voyager did well in the list, 15 out of the 50. 10 of which > were in HyperCard. #1 I programmed on my own, and I also did some work on #4 > and #15. > > >> On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Hi Colin, >> >> I found this Mac User magazine! >> https://vintageapple.org/macuser/pdf/MacUser_9311_November_1993.pdf >> >> Al >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:21 PM >> Colin Holgate wrote: >>> In 1993 Mac User magazine had a review >>> of the top 50 CD-ROMs, and of those there >>> was an overall winner. >>> The A Hard Day’s Night CD-ROM I made >>> in HyperCard was the overall winner. >>> I was lucky that it was before Myst was >>> released. It would have easily won! >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Thanks for that. Voyager did well in the list, 15 out of the 50. 10 of which were in HyperCard. #1 I programmed on my own, and I also did some work on #4 and #15. > On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Colin, > > I found this Mac User magazine! > https://vintageapple.org/macuser/pdf/MacUser_9311_November_1993.pdf > > Al > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:21 PM > Colin Holgate wrote: >> In 1993 Mac User magazine had a review >> of the top 50 CD-ROMs, and of those there >> was an overall winner. >> The A Hard Day’s Night CD-ROM I made >> in HyperCard was the overall winner. >> I was lucky that it was before Myst was >> released. It would have easily won! > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
HyperCard: the Myst story
Hi Colin, I found this Mac User magazine! https://vintageapple.org/macuser/pdf/MacUser_9311_November_1993.pdf Al On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:21 PM Colin Holgate wrote: > In 1993 Mac User magazine had a review > of the top 50 CD-ROMs, and of those there > was an overall winner. > The A Hard Day’s Night CD-ROM I made > in HyperCard was the overall winner. > I was lucky that it was before Myst was > released. It would have easily won! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Mark Wieder write: https://boingboing.net/2020/02/02/myst-co-creator-rand-mill.html "...to this day I would be doing projects in Hypercard if it were still available..." ...think someone should give Rand Miller a hint? Cyan's tech lead, Richard Watson (also known as RAWA) is well aware of LiveCode, and has been for more than a decade. I know because I've corresponded with him about porting some older stacks, as has at least one other LC dev I know. So I would imagine Rand is equally familiar with LiveCode. If they're not using LC currently it may be for the same reason HyperCard was never used after Riven: modern immersive games require real-time 3D, something no xTalk offers. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
I beat the first Myst, and I almost beat the second one, except for the last puzzle. The solution was you had to be standing in certain places along certain paths which had nothing to interact with, and looking in certain directions that were not natural to look, and then you could see a very subtle pattern in the background objects. I maintain to this day that the developers were determined to ensure no one could beat it without knowing the cheat. I don't think I can beat any of them now. Bob S > On Feb 4, 2020, at 18:00 , Roger Guay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Just curious, Mark… I loved Hypercard as well, but do you mean to say you > would choose Hypercard over Livecode today? > > Roger > >> On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> >> https://boingboing.net/2020/02/02/myst-co-creator-rand-mill.html >> >> "...to this day I would be doing projects in Hypercard if it were still >> available..." >> >> ...think someone should give Rand Miller a hint? >> >> -- >> Mark Wieder >> ahsoftw...@gmail.com >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
On 5 Feb 2020, at 3:19, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 2/4/20 6:19 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: In 1993 Mac User magazine ...them was the days, eh? [Deep sigh] I spent *many* years in MacUser magazine – the original and best UK one of course, not the Ziff-Davis copy. ;) I was an external contributor in 1993, it was another three years before I joined as tech ed. One of the most impressive CD-ROMs I ever saw from the 1990s was If Monks Had Macs, another HyperCard production. I think I still have that disc in a box somewhere, but I need to resurrect an old Mac to be able to run it. It is SUCH a shame that cool digital things have such a short working lifespan. :( k ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Miller has a Linken-In profile at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rand-miller-6b00041/ if someone wants to try to contact him to mention LiveCode On 2/4/2020 9:12 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote: Ah yes, of course. I see that now. On Feb 4, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 2/4/20 6:00 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote: Just curious, Mark… I loved Hypercard as well, but do you mean to say you would choose Hypercard over Livecode today? Heh. Not my quote... that's from Rand Miller's talk. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
On 2/4/20 6:19 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: In 1993 Mac User magazine ...them was the days, eh? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
In 1993 Mac User magazine had a review of the top 50 CD-ROMs, and of those there was an overall winner. The A Hard Day’s Night CD-ROM I made in HyperCard was the overall winner. I was lucky that it was before Myst was released. It would have easily won! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Ah yes, of course. I see that now. > On Feb 4, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2/4/20 6:00 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote: >> Just curious, Mark… I loved Hypercard as well, but do you mean to say you >> would choose Hypercard over Livecode today? > > Heh. Not my quote... that's from Rand Miller's talk. > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftw...@gmail.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
On 2/4/20 6:00 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote: Just curious, Mark… I loved Hypercard as well, but do you mean to say you would choose Hypercard over Livecode today? Heh. Not my quote... that's from Rand Miller's talk. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HyperCard: the Myst story
Just curious, Mark… I loved Hypercard as well, but do you mean to say you would choose Hypercard over Livecode today? Roger > On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > > https://boingboing.net/2020/02/02/myst-co-creator-rand-mill.html > > "...to this day I would be doing projects in Hypercard if it were still > available..." > > ...think someone should give Rand Miller a hint? > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftw...@gmail.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
HyperCard: the Myst story
https://boingboing.net/2020/02/02/myst-co-creator-rand-mill.html "...to this day I would be doing projects in Hypercard if it were still available..." ...think someone should give Rand Miller a hint? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
