Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-21 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
APP that is. 



> On Feb 21, 2019, at 12:44 , Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> 
> I'm running 10.14.3. I get alerts when an all


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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-21 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'm running 10.14.3. I get alerts when an all is not supported or is likely to 
cause problems. I don't categorize this as highly unstable though. Livecode has 
kept up fairly well with the "vagaries" of the OS X updates, and I can tell you 
that with Windows 10 which I also have to service, plenty of apps go "unstable" 
as the OS is updated, and they also have to be updated. 

Bob S


> On Feb 21, 2019, at 05:26 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I concur with HH. Mojave 10.14.3 is a most unstable "beast". I get different 
> programs suddenly "winking out" some without a crash report, some that quit 
> all of a sudden. How a small team is supposedly to keep with the Apple's 
> vagaries is a good question. 
> 
> Brahmanathaswami


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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-21 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I was thinking that very thing. :-)

Bob S


> On Feb 20, 2019, at 15:58 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2/20/19 3:13 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:
>> Is someone of the dev team looking in to these random strange behaviours, 
>> which in some cases do not have fixed recipe?
> 
> I don't know how they could without a recipe. Where would they look first?
> 
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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-21 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I've been through them all. I do not notice any highly unstable behavior. All 
we use here are MacOS systems. Do you mean 10.0.1, or do you mean the initial 
release of every major version? The initial release of EVERYTHING seems to need 
the kinks worked out, but I think every MacOS since 10 being highly unstable is 
a dramatic overstatement. 

Bob S


> On Feb 20, 2019, at 09:50 , hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Each and every MacOS 10.x.0 and 10.x.1.
> Even Windows 10 is closer to "stable" than these "first" versions.
> 
>> Bob S. wrote:
>> Really? Which ones?
>>> hh wrote:
>>> * People are updating their OS without denoting it (for example
>>> some MacOS versions are highly unstable). This affects especially
>>> cross platform apps as LiveCode.


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Re: LC902 and LC901 message box error was LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash

2019-02-21 Thread JJS via use-livecode
there was a bug once (8 series probably, can't remember) with the 
Message Box and then opening the Message Watcher crashing the IDE. I 
reported it myself. But i can't find it anymore at quality.


I believe it was solved then. Maybe there is a regression.

Op 21-2-2019 om 19:04 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode:
If the message box is misdirecting commands, that may fit with some 
problems I've seen too. I couldn't set behavior on a button, menu key 
shortcuts fail all the time, and calling a handler from the message 
box periodically reports the handler can't be found even though the 
message box title field says the target stack is the one I'm looking 
at. Also, like you, Cmd-S periodically fails to do anything and 
contextual menus don't appear when right-clicking.


I open the message box at startup and never close it.

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On February 20, 2019 10:32:52 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
 wrote:


A new twist. A ctrl S will work normally until I open the message 
box. The

inspector will also open OK. Open up the message box and close it. Now a
ctrl S will cause the message box to open(last command is displayed 
but not
executed) then the stack will be saved normally. Also the inspector 
will no
longer open. Close the message box and do a Ctrl S and again the 
message box

opens up. Strange indeed.





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RE: LC902 and LC901 message box error was LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash

2019-02-21 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
If the message box is misdirecting commands, that may fit with some 
problems I've seen too. I couldn't set behavior on a button, menu key 
shortcuts fail all the time, and calling a handler from the message box 
periodically reports the handler can't be found even though the message box 
title field says the target stack is the one I'm looking at. Also, like 
you, Cmd-S periodically fails to do anything and contextual menus don't 
appear when right-clicking.


I open the message box at startup and never close it.

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On February 20, 2019 10:32:52 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
 wrote:



A new twist. A ctrl S will work normally until I open the message box. The
inspector will also open OK. Open up the message box and close it. Now a
ctrl S will cause the message box to open(last command is displayed but not
executed) then the stack will be saved normally. Also the inspector will no
longer open. Close the message box and do a Ctrl S and again the message box
opens up. Strange indeed.





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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-21 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
I concur with HH. Mojave 10.14.3 is a most unstable "beast". I get different 
programs suddenly "winking out" some without a crash report, some that quit all 
of a sudden. How a small team is supposedly to keep with the Apple's vagaries 
is a good question. 

Brahmanathaswami

 hh wrote:

Each and every MacOS 10.x.0 and 10.x.1.
Even Windows 10 is closer to "stable" than these "first" versions.

>Bob S. wrote:
>Really? Which ones?
>> hh wrote:
>> * People are updating their OS without denoting it (for example
>> some MacOS versions are highly unstable). This affects especially
>> cross platform apps as LiveCode.

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RE: LC902 and LC901 message box error was LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash

2019-02-20 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I have not. It's a big stack with billions(well a 100 anyway) of support
files. I will open a report as soon as I can package it up.

A new twist. A ctrl S will work normally until I open the message box. The
inspector will also open OK. Open up the message box and close it. Now a
ctrl S will cause the message box to open(last command is displayed but not
executed) then the stack will be saved normally. Also the inspector will no
longer open. Close the message box and do a Ctrl S and again the message box
opens up. Strange indeed.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
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Subject: Re: LC902 and LC901 message box error was LC902 and LC901 Hang with
Answer (was Crash

Excellent sleuthing, Ralph.

Has this valuable info made its way into a bug report?

-- 
  Richard Gaskin
  Fourth World Systems


Ralph DiMola wrote:
> Maybe this will help with some of the v9 problems. This is happening on my
> Win 10 VM.
> 
> I have a stack that makes the IDE go crazy if you open up the message box.
A
> slew of "can't find object" errors from a try/catch in my stack.
Yesterday
> it was OK the day before yesterday IDE went crazy. No major if any
changes.
> 
> I have some hints. After all settles down either of these 2 are left in
the
> message box.
> 1) send "ideInitialiseMessageBox" to stack "Message Box"
> 2) put the formattedHeight of field 1
> 
> The send(#1) has no result but when #2 is there it is actually executed
with
> the formattedheight of some field in the lower message box results area.
> 
> This is the executioncontexts of the try/catch in my code. Why I am
getting
> a resizestack message sent to my stack(last 2 lines) from the IDE when
> opening the message box is beyond me. If the IDE was always sending
> "resizestack"s to the developers stack then why is it a problem now?
Default
> stack behavior change? Behaviors getting lost/corrupted?
> 
> Default Stack==>stack "Message Box"
> Stack name==>stack "Message Box"
> Card name==> card "Single Line"
> 
> Executioncontexts:
> 
> stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
> 9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/menubar/revmenubar.livecodescript",mouseUp,1027
> stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
>
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/menubar/revmenubar.livecodescript",revMenubarMenuButt
> onClicked,1133
> stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
>
9.0.2/Toolset/libraries/revidelibrary.8.livecodescript",revIDETogglePalette,
> 8860
> stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
>
9.0.2/Toolset/libraries/revidelibrary.8.livecodescript",revIDEOpenPalette,46
> 22
> stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
> 9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/message
> box/revmessagebox.8.rev",preOpenStack,566,stack "C:/Program Files
> (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
> 9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/behaviors/revpalettebehavior.livecodescript"
> stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
> 9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/message
> box/revmessagebox.8.rev",generateFrame,370,stack "C:/Program Files
> (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
> 9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/behaviors/revpalettebehavior.livecodescript"
> stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
> 9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/message
> box/revmessagebox.8.rev",layoutFrame,510,stack "C:/Program Files
> (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
> 9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/behaviors/revpalettebehavior.livecodescript"
> stack "N:/Apps/Ver1/MyApp.livecode",resizestack,70
> stack "N:/Apps/Ver1/MyAppPlace.livecode",PlaceOnCards,920
> 
> The translated error...
> 
> Chunk: no such object
> occurred on line: 546
> 1
> 
> Chunk: can't find object
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdimola at evergreeninfo.net
> 

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Re: LC902 and LC901 message box error was LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash

2019-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Excellent sleuthing, Ralph.

Has this valuable info made its way into a bug report?

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems


Ralph DiMola wrote:

Maybe this will help with some of the v9 problems. This is happening on my
Win 10 VM.

I have a stack that makes the IDE go crazy if you open up the message box. A
slew of "can't find object" errors from a try/catch in my stack.  Yesterday
it was OK the day before yesterday IDE went crazy. No major if any changes.

I have some hints. After all settles down either of these 2 are left in the
message box.
1) send "ideInitialiseMessageBox" to stack "Message Box"
2) put the formattedHeight of field 1

The send(#1) has no result but when #2 is there it is actually executed with
the formattedheight of some field in the lower message box results area.

This is the executioncontexts of the try/catch in my code. Why I am getting
a resizestack message sent to my stack(last 2 lines) from the IDE when
opening the message box is beyond me. If the IDE was always sending
"resizestack"s to the developers stack then why is it a problem now? Default
stack behavior change? Behaviors getting lost/corrupted?

Default Stack==>stack "Message Box"
Stack name==>stack "Message Box"
Card name==> card "Single Line"

Executioncontexts:

stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/menubar/revmenubar.livecodescript",mouseUp,1027
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/menubar/revmenubar.livecodescript",revMenubarMenuButt
onClicked,1133
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/libraries/revidelibrary.8.livecodescript",revIDETogglePalette,
8860
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/libraries/revidelibrary.8.livecodescript",revIDEOpenPalette,46
22
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/message
box/revmessagebox.8.rev",preOpenStack,566,stack "C:/Program Files
(x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/behaviors/revpalettebehavior.livecodescript"
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/message
box/revmessagebox.8.rev",generateFrame,370,stack "C:/Program Files
(x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/behaviors/revpalettebehavior.livecodescript"
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/message
box/revmessagebox.8.rev",layoutFrame,510,stack "C:/Program Files
(x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/behaviors/revpalettebehavior.livecodescript"
stack "N:/Apps/Ver1/MyApp.livecode",resizestack,70
stack "N:/Apps/Ver1/MyAppPlace.livecode",PlaceOnCards,920

The translated error...

Chunk: no such object
occurred on line: 546
1

Chunk: can't find object

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdimola at evergreeninfo.net



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LC902 and LC901 message box error was LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash

2019-02-20 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Maybe this will help with some of the v9 problems. This is happening on my
Win 10 VM.

I have a stack that makes the IDE go crazy if you open up the message box. A
slew of "can't find object" errors from a try/catch in my stack.  Yesterday
it was OK the day before yesterday IDE went crazy. No major if any changes.

I have some hints. After all settles down either of these 2 are left in the
message box.
1) send "ideInitialiseMessageBox" to stack "Message Box"
2) put the formattedHeight of field 1

The send(#1) has no result but when #2 is there it is actually executed with
the formattedheight of some field in the lower message box results area.

This is the executioncontexts of the try/catch in my code. Why I am getting
a resizestack message sent to my stack(last 2 lines) from the IDE when
opening the message box is beyond me. If the IDE was always sending
"resizestack"s to the developers stack then why is it a problem now? Default
stack behavior change? Behaviors getting lost/corrupted?

Default Stack==>stack "Message Box"
Stack name==>stack "Message Box"
Card name==> card "Single Line"

Executioncontexts:

stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/menubar/revmenubar.livecodescript",mouseUp,1027
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/menubar/revmenubar.livecodescript",revMenubarMenuButt
onClicked,1133
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/libraries/revidelibrary.8.livecodescript",revIDETogglePalette,
8860
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/libraries/revidelibrary.8.livecodescript",revIDEOpenPalette,46
22
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/message
box/revmessagebox.8.rev",preOpenStack,566,stack "C:/Program Files
(x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/behaviors/revpalettebehavior.livecodescript"
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/message
box/revmessagebox.8.rev",generateFrame,370,stack "C:/Program Files
(x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/behaviors/revpalettebehavior.livecodescript"
stack "C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/message
box/revmessagebox.8.rev",layoutFrame,510,stack "C:/Program Files
(x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Business
9.0.2/Toolset/palettes/behaviors/revpalettebehavior.livecodescript"
stack "N:/Apps/Ver1/MyApp.livecode",resizestack,70
stack "N:/Apps/Ver1/MyAppPlace.livecode",PlaceOnCards,920

The translated error...

Chunk: no such object
occurred on line: 546
1

Chunk: can't find object

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net



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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 2/20/19 3:13 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:
Is someone of the dev team looking in to these random strange 
behaviours, which in some cases do not have fixed recipe?


I don't know how they could without a recipe. Where would they look first?

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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-20 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Is someone of the dev team looking in to these random strange 
behaviours, which in some cases do not have fixed recipe?


Op 20-2-2019 om 18:50 schreef hh via use-livecode:

Each and every MacOS 10.x.0 and 10.x.1.
Even Windows 10 is closer to "stable" than these "first" versions.


Bob S. wrote:
Really? Which ones?

hh wrote:
* People are updating their OS without denoting it (for example
some MacOS versions are highly unstable). This affects especially
cross platform apps as LiveCode.

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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-20 Thread hh via use-livecode
Each and every MacOS 10.x.0 and 10.x.1.
Even Windows 10 is closer to "stable" than these "first" versions.

> Bob S. wrote:
> Really? Which ones?
> > hh wrote:
> > * People are updating their OS without denoting it (for example
> > some MacOS versions are highly unstable). This affects especially
> > cross platform apps as LiveCode.

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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Really? Which ones?

Bob S


> On Feb 20, 2019, at 08:23 , hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> * People are updating their OS without denoting it (for example
> some MacOS versions are highly unstable). This affects especially
> cross platform apps as LiveCode.


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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-20 Thread hh via use-livecode
All LC 9 versions have some serious problems, especially memory
problems with widgets.

But we should have also the following possible reasons for
"malfunctions" of LiveCode in mind.

* People are updating their OS without denoting it (for example
some MacOS versions are highly unstable). This affects especially
cross platform apps as LiveCode.

* People are not or too late updating their hardware: A mouse
or a keyboard become randomly working when close to their collapse.

* People are loosing some of their mobility, intelligence or
ability to concentrate when getting older.

To avoid any misunderstanding: "People" means inclusive myself.

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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-20 Thread Sphere via use-livecode
And i double check if i did not turn off messages, sometimes i need to 
double click it to get a good reaction. But that's separate from these 
issues.


J. Landman Gay via use-livecode schreef op 2019-02-19 22:30:

On 2/19/19 3:00 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:
But just yet i also had a weird issue that it would not post or 
receive, restarted LC and worked again


it's making me nuts


Me too. Sometimes I go back to an earlier version of LC for a while if
I don't need new features. There's no recipe for the problem either,
it's always something random.


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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-19 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 2/19/19 3:00 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:
But just yet i also had a weird issue that it would not post or receive, 
restarted LC and worked again


it's making me nuts


Me too. Sometimes I go back to an earlier version of LC for a while if I 
don't need new features. There's no recipe for the problem either, it's 
always something random.


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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-19 Thread JJS via use-livecode

Yes yesterday i did a few times.

Mostly i close and reopen LC when opening a new stack. This way i'm sure 
that nothing strange stays behind.


But just yet i also had a weird issue that it would not post or receive, 
restarted LC and worked again


it's making me nuts


Op 19-2-2019 om 22:41 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode:
Did you happen to restart LC? I hear there's a memory leak and a 
restart makes things work again. I know I had some issues that 
resolved after a restart.


On 2/19/19 2:04 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:

waah why is this day different then yesterday???

Yesterday i tested and tested and tested

Today i did the same as you, test on Ubuntu Mate, no problem, test on 
Mac  Mojave, no problem, final test on win10 again...no problem


same stack, same conditions, nothing changed, this really blows my mind.

Yesterday and the day before continuously hang, today it's working 
like nothing ever happened.


Makes me furious, well sort of...

I can't provide a recipe


Sorry can't provide any further, if it shows up again, i will try to 
pin it down and report again to this thread.


Thanks a lot for your help

Jerry

Op 19-2-2019 om 01:47 schreef Richard Gaskin via use-livecode:
Thanks. Curious to test this out, I copied the first 110 characters 
of that sample data and pasted into a field 10 times, resulting in 
more than 1k of text with no line breaks.


When I used:

   answer the text of fld 1

...I get the answer box appearing as expected, with the text cut off 
at a reasonable length but no hang - the Answer window's OK button 
responds efficiently as expected.


Tested on Win 10 and Ubuntu 14.04, using LC 9.0.2.

Happy to run other tests to help pin this down, so please feel free 
to share any details that might help us reach a reproducible recipe 
for a bug report.




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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-19 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Did you happen to restart LC? I hear there's a memory leak and a restart 
makes things work again. I know I had some issues that resolved after a 
restart.


On 2/19/19 2:04 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:

waah why is this day different then yesterday???

Yesterday i tested and tested and tested

Today i did the same as you, test on Ubuntu Mate, no problem, test on 
Mac  Mojave, no problem, final test on win10 again...no problem


same stack, same conditions, nothing changed, this really blows my mind.

Yesterday and the day before continuously hang, today it's working like 
nothing ever happened.


Makes me furious, well sort of...

I can't provide a recipe


Sorry can't provide any further, if it shows up again, i will try to pin 
it down and report again to this thread.


Thanks a lot for your help

Jerry

Op 19-2-2019 om 01:47 schreef Richard Gaskin via use-livecode:
Thanks. Curious to test this out, I copied the first 110 characters of 
that sample data and pasted into a field 10 times, resulting in more 
than 1k of text with no line breaks.


When I used:

   answer the text of fld 1

...I get the answer box appearing as expected, with the text cut off 
at a reasonable length but no hang - the Answer window's OK button 
responds efficiently as expected.


Tested on Win 10 and Ubuntu 14.04, using LC 9.0.2.

Happy to run other tests to help pin this down, so please feel free to 
share any details that might help us reach a reproducible recipe for a 
bug report.




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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-19 Thread JJS via use-livecode

waah why is this day different then yesterday???

Yesterday i tested and tested and tested

Today i did the same as you, test on Ubuntu Mate, no problem, test on 
Mac  Mojave, no problem, final test on win10 again...no problem


same stack, same conditions, nothing changed, this really blows my mind.

Yesterday and the day before continuously hang, today it's working like 
nothing ever happened.


Makes me furious, well sort of...

I can't provide a recipe


Sorry can't provide any further, if it shows up again, i will try to pin 
it down and report again to this thread.


Thanks a lot for your help

Jerry

Op 19-2-2019 om 01:47 schreef Richard Gaskin via use-livecode:
Thanks. Curious to test this out, I copied the first 110 characters of 
that sample data and pasted into a field 10 times, resulting in more 
than 1k of text with no line breaks.


When I used:

   answer the text of fld 1

...I get the answer box appearing as expected, with the text cut off 
at a reasonable length but no hang - the Answer window's OK button 
responds efficiently as expected.


Tested on Win 10 and Ubuntu 14.04, using LC 9.0.2.

Happy to run other tests to help pin this down, so please feel free to 
share any details that might help us reach a reproducible recipe for a 
bug report.




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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Thanks. Curious to test this out, I copied the first 110 characters of 
that sample data and pasted into a field 10 times, resulting in more 
than 1k of text with no line breaks.


When I used:

   answer the text of fld 1

...I get the answer box appearing as expected, with the text cut off at 
a reasonable length but no hang - the Answer window's OK button responds 
efficiently as expected.


Tested on Win 10 and Ubuntu 14.04, using LC 9.0.2.

Happy to run other tests to help pin this down, so please feel free to 
share any details that might help us reach a reproducible recipe for a 
bug report.


--
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 Fourth World Systems


JJS wrote:


I can share it as it is not with the final salt etcetera:

id==some=realtext=dUpYlgY%2Bue9z25iNuQjbXw%3D%3D=dUpYlgY%2Bue9z25iNuQjbXw%3D%3D... 
etcetera


i changed the column names to blabla and id is empty because of 
auto-increment


you see the plain text is URLencoded after encryption and base64decode

Other (normal) text is working ok.


Op 18-2-2019 om 21:27 schreef Richard Gaskin via use-livecode:

JJS wrote:

> Op 18-2-2019 om 01:49 schreef Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> What is the total length of the data?
>>
>> And what happens when you output it to a field in your stack rather
>> than the field in the Answer dialog?
>
> I just tested it.
>
> Then it works as expected and does not hang.
>
> Total chars are 705
>
> 25 variables of which 13 are encrypted, and that what is encrypted is
> plain text, single lines of text and/or nr's

Sounds like the makings of a bug report. 750 chars of plain text 
should not hang the Answer dialog.


Can you share that text?  Can you reproduce the hang with other text?




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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-18 Thread JJS via use-livecode

I can share it as it is not with the final salt etcetera:

id==some=realtext=dUpYlgY%2Bue9z25iNuQjbXw%3D%3D=dUpYlgY%2Bue9z25iNuQjbXw%3D%3D... 
etcetera


i changed the column names to blabla and id is empty because of 
auto-increment


you see the plain text is URLencoded after encryption and base64decode

Other (normal) text is working ok.


Op 18-2-2019 om 21:27 schreef Richard Gaskin via use-livecode:

JJS wrote:

> Op 18-2-2019 om 01:49 schreef Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> What is the total length of the data?
>>
>> And what happens when you output it to a field in your stack rather
>> than the field in the Answer dialog?
>
> I just tested it.
>
> Then it works as expected and does not hang.
>
> Total chars are 705
>
> 25 variables of which 13 are encrypted, and that what is encrypted is
> plain text, single lines of text and/or nr's

Sounds like the makings of a bug report. 750 chars of plain text 
should not hang the Answer dialog.


Can you share that text?  Can you reproduce the hang with other text?



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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

JJS wrote:

> Op 18-2-2019 om 01:49 schreef Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> What is the total length of the data?
>>
>> And what happens when you output it to a field in your stack rather
>> than the field in the Answer dialog?
>
> I just tested it.
>
> Then it works as expected and does not hang.
>
> Total chars are 705
>
> 25 variables of which 13 are encrypted, and that what is encrypted is
> plain text, single lines of text and/or nr's

Sounds like the makings of a bug report. 750 chars of plain text should 
not hang the Answer dialog.


Can you share that text?  Can you reproduce the hang with other text?

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 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-18 Thread JJS via use-livecode

I just tested it.

Then it works as expected and does not hang.

Total chars are 705

25 variables of which 13 are encrypted, and that what is encrypted is 
plain text, single lines of text and/or nr's


Op 18-2-2019 om 01:49 schreef Richard Gaskin via use-livecode:

JJS wrote:

> i guess Ralph is correct as it probably too much data to display.

What is the total length of the data?

And what happens when you output it to a field in your stack rather 
than the field in the Answer dialog?




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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-17 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

JJS wrote:

> i guess Ralph is correct as it probably too much data to display.

What is the total length of the data?

And what happens when you output it to a field in your stack rather than 
the field in the Answer dialog?


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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)

2019-02-17 Thread JJS via use-livecode

Hi everyone,

i guess Ralph is correct as it probably too much data to display.

If it is just one variable with encr-->base64enc-->URLenc then there 
seems to be no problem. That's probably why have not seen this before, 
but i used the answer with these 25 variables also before and maybe it 
was 9.0.


But as i also tested with 9.01 and had the same result i did not test 
with 9.0.


No the data is not surrounded by  .

Indeed it's rather a hang than a crash (crash would most probably unload 
LC, but it stays unresponsive)


The answer does show the data, then when hitting Return as i don't see 
the OK it hangs.


Solution is then probably to not show to much strange data with the 
answer command.



Thanks all.

Jerry

Op 17-2-2019 om 20:51 schreef Ralph DiMola via use-livecode:

I've seen this when you try too display much data in an answer(or ask). You
can usually get out of it if you key a "Return"(or two-tree). At that point
save and restart IDE(not usually necessary but "the ctrl S"s get more
frequent for sure). I did not report this because I was displaying an
obscene amount of data by mistake. You might have reached my afore mentioned
"obscene amount of data" in an answer dialog.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Subject: LC902 and LC901 Crash with Answer

Hi,

anyone had this before? with LC902 community on win10 64bits


When i put 25 variables into a variable like this:

put "id=" & tId & "=" & tN & "=" & tA ..and so oninto
varSendData

half of the variables are ---> encrypted--->base64encoded--->URLencoded

then

answer varSendData just to check if it is correct what i post to my php
middleware

LC902 crashes, it's just unresponsive and have to close it via taskmanager

Now i did not see this before and it always worked.

So deleted preferences file, no luck

downloaded LC901, same issue

If i uncomment the answer then it works as expected


all other answer commands in the script work normally.

So is there a limit to what can be shown by the answer command or are the
encoded elements the cullprit?

I know with normal text you can show a lot.


thanks Sphere(Jerry)


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