Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
I'm looking at it now... On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: > On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > > AltLayerTools >> http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev >> It keeps you from moving objects in and out of groups. It only move groups >> around. >> >> just put in msg box: >> go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev"; >> then save to plugins. I use with my toolbar palette. >> >> here's another which is most helpful: >> AltGroupMgr >> http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altGroupMgr.txt >> >> It does a great job of placing and removing groups on different cards. >> >> Both use ZERO frontscripts in favor of a 'refresh button,' mostly for >> robustness and lack of conflict with some of my other frontscripts. I >> really >> need to create a single frontscript library which manages everything. >> C'est >> la vie. >> > > But no replacement for the really great ability that revNavigator used to > have, of moving a control (or a group) in or out of a group? That's what I > miss! > > Geoff Canyon, can you convince that developer of yours to do something > about this...? :-) > > > -- Peter > > Peter M. Brigham > pmb...@gmail.com > http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
Thanks you Bernd, I obviously didn't look hard enough! There are indeed a lot of cool features in Remo. Pete Haworth On Jan 13, 2011, at 2:04 PM, BNig wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > in Remo look under Help -> Quickstart Docs. > > It explains quite a bit. You should look at this since some things are not > self-evident and very useful. > > Kind regards > > Bernd > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Slug-saves-the-day-Was-Layers-revNavigator-DataGrids-tp3216430p3216790.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
Hi Pete, in Remo look under Help -> Quickstart Docs. It explains quite a bit. You should look at this since some things are not self-evident and very useful. Kind regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Slug-saves-the-day-Was-Layers-revNavigator-DataGrids-tp3216430p3216790.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
I'm giving this a try. Yes it does allow easy relayering of objects, glad to see that. I'm sure it does lots of other great things too but there's not a shred of documentation that I can find either on the web site or built into the product. Maybe a lot of it is intuitive but sure would be nice to know if I'm missing some great feature that isn;t intuitive to me! It would have been really cool if the concept of the browser could have been extended to include a properties pane that listed all the properties associated with a control and their values when you clicked on it. Pete Haworth On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:11 PM, BNig wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > If you use MacOSX 10.5 or higher you could use Jerry Daniels Remo to move > things into and out of groups and change layering. > As an aside you would have a very nice script editor replacement. :) > I like it a lot more than the application browser. > > http://remoeditor.com/ > > no affiliation, just using it. > > Kind regards > > Bernd > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Slug-saves-the-day-Was-Layers-revNavigator-DataGrids-tp3216430p3216576.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
On 1/13/11 12:53 PM, Paul Looney wrote: So it appears that there is no way to adjust layers into, out of, or between groups in the LC world today. Set the relayerGroupedControls to true and assign a layer number at will. That ignores group layers. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
Paul, Moving controls into to and out of groups is as simple as just setting the layer one number higher and/or lower outside the range of the group. And at the time I wrote altLayer, this was easily accomplished by using the relayer tools in Rev-- not sure how that works these days. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Paul Looney wrote: > Thank you all! > > To summarize since yesterday morning: > > Question #1 > I asked "Can you recommend something for layering objects in LC 4.5.1 and > later?" > > Tereza suggested using Chipp's altLayer Tool and showed me where to find it > (I had the same problem that Bob and Phil had locating it). I emailed Chipp > to arrange payment; he replied that it was free!?! Unfortunately, while this > utility moves objects within groups, it does not move them into, out of, or > between groups - which is what I need (more on that in a moment). I do > appreciate Chipp's (typical) generosity regarding this and would like to note > that we use his Magic Carpet for every change in any of our programs - often > many times a day. > > Geoff confirmed that the problems with the current revNavigator were not my > imagination. > > So it appears that there is no way to adjust layers into, out of, or between > groups in the LC world today. > > Why do I care? > My major use of LC is for the Ahsomme Business System. It does order > processing, accounting, purchasing, inventory control, job costing, > machine-loading, employee scheduling, material requirement planning, etc. It > is complex; there are over 20 databases, over 50 standard report templates > (plus a report maker), and more than 50 auxillary programs. Some of these > individual programs are also complex; the Orders Editor, for example, has 144 > buttons and 436 fields (not counting objects in datagrid groups). > Right now I am working on a Production Status program for a company in New > Zealand. This program uses multiple datagrids. There is a grid for pending > orders, a grid showing the orders selected to be put in process, grids for > materials required to support production, a grid comparing required material > to uncommitted materials on hand and purchased materials due in, and several > more. Obviously it is not possible to display everything on the screen at the > same time. So, we hide and show groups - a lot. Usually these groups will > contain one or more datagrids, plus additional fields or buttons. It is > critical to have the ability to quickly and easily move newly created objects > into the proper group. revNavigator did this perfectly, I can not begin to > say how grateful I am to have had it! > > Quoting Peter: Geoff Canyon, can you convince that developer of yours to do > something about this...? :-) > > Question #2 > I asked "Is there a way to fix the broken datagrid?" > > I had already concluded that the grid was broken because the behavior of the > grid was no longer linked - as the Slug and Trevor suggested. I had tried: > > set the behavior of grp "myDataGrid" to button id 1005 of stack > revDataGridLibrary > > which did nothing, not even an error. > > I had also tried: > > set the behavior of grp "myDataGrid" to button id 1005 of stack & > quote & "revDataGridLibrary" & quote > > which gave a binary error. > > The Slug's recipe: > > set the behavior of grp "myDataGrid" to "button id 1005 of stack " & > quote & "revDataGridLibrary" & quote > > worked. With that fix the grid started displaying the text from dgText. > This also reverted other properties to their defaults, for example, before > the fix the columns were their original and proper width but the columnWidth > properties were empty; after the fix the columnWidth properties (and the > columns themselves) were all "100". This is actually a minor problem for us > and we can easily make manual repairs to these properties. > > Trevor's list of Behaviors will help us reset all of default links without > completely rebuilding the stack (an unimaginable exercise). > > Thank you all. > Paul Looney > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
Hi Paul, If you use MacOSX 10.5 or higher you could use Jerry Daniels Remo to move things into and out of groups and change layering. As an aside you would have a very nice script editor replacement. :) I like it a lot more than the application browser. http://remoeditor.com/ no affiliation, just using it. Kind regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Slug-saves-the-day-Was-Layers-revNavigator-DataGrids-tp3216430p3216576.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Paul Looney wrote: > > So it appears that there is no way to adjust layers into, out of, or > between groups in the LC world today. > There may not be a tool but I have a stack on revOnline that has handlers for reordering into, out of or between groups. You probably want a tool but just in case here is where you can find the handlers. 1) Download the stack at this url: http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/299/Relayer-Selected-Control 2) Look at the stack script. Here are the handlers you will find. Perhaps they will help. MoveControlAfterControl MoveControlBeforeControl MoveControlToBeginningOfGroup MoveControlToBeginningOfParent MoveControlToEndOfGroup MoveControlToEndOfParent MoveControlTowardsBackOfParent MoveControlTowardsBeginningOfParent -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com LiveCode Resources for Developers: http://livecode.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
I second this! My ap uses extensive use of groups, often nested within each other and it is anight mare to move controls in and out of them. Pete Haworth http://www.mollysrevenge.com http://www.sonicbids.com/MollysRevenge http://www.myspace.com/mollysrevengeband On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Paul Looney wrote: > It is critical to have the ability to quickly and easily move newly created > objects into the proper group. revNavigator did this perfectly, I can not > begin to say how grateful I am to have had it! > > Quoting Peter: Geoff Canyon, can you convince that developer of yours to do > something about this...? :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
Thank you all! To summarize since yesterday morning: Question #1 I asked "Can you recommend something for layering objects in LC 4.5.1 and later?" Tereza suggested using Chipp's altLayer Tool and showed me where to find it (I had the same problem that Bob and Phil had locating it). I emailed Chipp to arrange payment; he replied that it was free!?! Unfortunately, while this utility moves objects within groups, it does not move them into, out of, or between groups - which is what I need (more on that in a moment). I do appreciate Chipp's (typical) generosity regarding this and would like to note that we use his Magic Carpet for every change in any of our programs - often many times a day. Geoff confirmed that the problems with the current revNavigator were not my imagination. So it appears that there is no way to adjust layers into, out of, or between groups in the LC world today. Why do I care? My major use of LC is for the Ahsomme Business System. It does order processing, accounting, purchasing, inventory control, job costing, machine-loading, employee scheduling, material requirement planning, etc. It is complex; there are over 20 databases, over 50 standard report templates (plus a report maker), and more than 50 auxillary programs. Some of these individual programs are also complex; the Orders Editor, for example, has 144 buttons and 436 fields (not counting objects in datagrid groups). Right now I am working on a Production Status program for a company in New Zealand. This program uses multiple datagrids. There is a grid for pending orders, a grid showing the orders selected to be put in process, grids for materials required to support production, a grid comparing required material to uncommitted materials on hand and purchased materials due in, and several more. Obviously it is not possible to display everything on the screen at the same time. So, we hide and show groups - a lot. Usually these groups will contain one or more datagrids, plus additional fields or buttons. It is critical to have the ability to quickly and easily move newly created objects into the proper group. revNavigator did this perfectly, I can not begin to say how grateful I am to have had it! Quoting Peter: Geoff Canyon, can you convince that developer of yours to do something about this...? :-) Question #2 I asked "Is there a way to fix the broken datagrid?" I had already concluded that the grid was broken because the behavior of the grid was no longer linked - as the Slug and Trevor suggested. I had tried: set the behavior of grp "myDataGrid" to button id 1005 of stack revDataGridLibrary which did nothing, not even an error. I had also tried: set the behavior of grp "myDataGrid" to button id 1005 of stack & quote & "revDataGridLibrary" & quote which gave a binary error. The Slug's recipe: set the behavior of grp "myDataGrid" to "button id 1005 of stack " & quote & "revDataGridLibrary" & quote worked. With that fix the grid started displaying the text from dgText. This also reverted other properties to their defaults, for example, before the fix the columns were their original and proper width but the columnWidth properties were empty; after the fix the columnWidth properties (and the columns themselves) were all "100". This is actually a minor problem for us and we can easily make manual repairs to these properties. Trevor's list of Behaviors will help us reset all of default links without completely rebuilding the stack (an unimaginable exercise). Thank you all. Paul Looney ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: AltLayerTools http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev It keeps you from moving objects in and out of groups. It only move groups around. just put in msg box: go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev"; then save to plugins. I use with my toolbar palette. here's another which is most helpful: AltGroupMgr http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altGroupMgr.txt It does a great job of placing and removing groups on different cards. Both use ZERO frontscripts in favor of a 'refresh button,' mostly for robustness and lack of conflict with some of my other frontscripts. I really need to create a single frontscript library which manages everything. C'est la vie. But no replacement for the really great ability that revNavigator used to have, of moving a control (or a group) in or out of a group? That's what I miss! Geoff Canyon, can you convince that developer of yours to do something about this...? :-) -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
That's exactly what a super intelligent albeit benevolent alien would say! Bob On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:26 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > >> Are we sure that Trevor is not a super intelligent albeit benevolent alien >> species sent here to hasten mankind's progress to interstellar status? >> > > You wouldn't say such things if you knew how many times I've locked myself > out of my house. > > -- > Trevor DeVore > Blue Mango Learning Systems > ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com > LiveCode Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
AltLayerTools http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev It keeps you from moving objects in and out of groups. It only move groups around. just put in msg box: go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev"; then save to plugins. I use with my toolbar palette. here's another which is most helpful: AltGroupMgr http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altGroupMgr.txt It does a great job of placing and removing groups on different cards. Both use ZERO frontscripts in favor of a 'refresh button,' mostly for robustness and lack of conflict with some of my other frontscripts. I really need to create a single frontscript library which manages everything. C'est la vie. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: > On Jan 12, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Tereza Snyder wrote: > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Paul Looney wrote: >> >> So, two questions: >>> 1. Can you recommend something for layering objects in LC 4.5.1 and >>> later? >>> >> >> Chipp’s AltLayerTools does it for me! >> > > Is this still available? I can't find it on the Altuit website. > > -- Peter > > Peter M. Brigham > pmb...@gmail.com > http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Are we sure that Trevor is not a super intelligent albeit benevolent alien > species sent here to hasten mankind's progress to interstellar status? > You wouldn't say such things if you knew how many times I've locked myself out of my house. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com LiveCode Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Paul Looney wrote: > Having adjusted the object layers in an older version of Rev, the DataGrids > will not work on the stack when it is reopened in LC 4.0 or 4.5.1. All of > the grid objects are there but they have no "intelligence": You probably opened the stack in a version of LiveCode that didn't support behaviors. When it was saved all of the links between objects contained in a data grid group and their respective behaviors were wiped out. There are a number of behaviors you would need to reset in the data grid. In case you want to try and reassign the behaviors I have included a list of controls and their behaviors. I dropped a data grid on a new stack and ran a script that generated a list of controls in the data grid and the behavior assigned to each one: behavior for group "DataGrid 1": button "Data Grid" of group "Behaviors" of card "card id 1002" of stack "revDataGridLibrary" behavior for button "dgTrackDragDrop" of group "DataGrid 1" of card id 1002 of stack "Untitled 1": button "Track Drag & Drop" of group "Behaviors" of card "card id 1002" of stack "revDataGridLibrary" behavior for group "dgList" of group "dgListMask" of group "DataGrid 1" of card id 1002 of stack "Untitled 1": button "dgList Message Catcher" of group "Behaviors" of card "card id 1002" of stack "revDataGridLibrary" behavior for group "dgDropIndicator" of group "dgListMask" of group "DataGrid 1" of card id 1002 of stack "Untitled 1": button "Drop Indicator" of group "Behaviors" of card "card id 1002" of stack "revDataGridLibrary" behavior for group "dgHeaderMask" of group "dgHeaderComponents" of group "DataGrid 1" of card id 1002 of stack "Untitled 1": button "Header Mask" of group "Behaviors" of card "card id 1002" of stack "revDataGridLibrary" behavior for group "dgHeader" of group "dgHeaderMask" of group "dgHeaderComponents" of group "DataGrid 1" of card id 1002 of stack "Untitled 1": button "Header" of group "Behaviors" of card "card id 1002" of stack "revDataGridLibrary" behavior for scrollbar "dgHScrollbar" of group "dgHorizontalComponents" of group "DataGrid 1" of card id 1002 of stack "Untitled 1": button "Horizontal Scrollbar" of group "Behaviors" of card "card id 1002" of stack "revDataGridLibrary" behavior for scrollbar "dgScrollbar" of group "DataGrid 1" of card id 1002 of stack "Untitled 1": button "Vertical Scrollbar" of group "Behaviors" of card "card id 1002" of stack "revDataGridLibrary" -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
Hi Paul -- I, too, have been limping along with a revNavigator that I can't stop using but which has fallen behind the dev environment in a few areas. I should really talk to the developer and convince him to update that thing... I'll try to find some time this weekend to have a look at the layering code to see what's going wonky. The whole thing needs a re-write in the worst way. I hadn't done much development in Rev for several years, but in the past year I've built three tools critical to my place of employment. If I gave as much attention as I gave to those tools to revNavigator it would be shining your shoes right now. gc On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Paul Looney wrote: > Fellow Programmers, > For many years I've used the revNavigator plugin to layer objects - to move > objects to any layer, into and out of groups, from one group to another, > etc. > > Somewhere around Rev 3.5 the revNavigator broke. Dragging objects in the > list would only put bookmarks at the top of the list - leaving the selected > object in its original layer. Using the Option key to move objects in groups > (per the instructions) did not help. I am referring to revNavigator 3.0 RC > 1. > > I can open the stack in an older version of Rev, with the older version of > the Navigator and relayering works properly. BUT... > > Having adjusted the object layers in an older version of Rev, the DataGrids > will not work on the stack when it is reopened in LC 4.0 or 4.5.1. All of > the grid objects are there but they have no "intelligence": > 1. setting the dgText of the grid group does nothing - does not produce an > error, using a "try/catch" shows nothing > 2. the columns are the same size but have no column widths in the Columns > tab on the object inspector > 3. "the behavior of group 'DataGrid'" returns empty, not "button id 1005 of > stack "revDataGridLibrary"" > The original grids in the stack are broken. > > I can add new grids and they work properly. BUT... > If I replace the old grids with new ones, I have no way to put them in the > proper layers - short of completely rebuilding a very complex stack. > > So, two questions: > 1. Can you recommend something for layering objects in LC 4.5.1 and later? > 2. Is there a way to fix the broken datagrid described above? > > FYI, LC 4.0 tested on OS X 10.4.11 on a G4 PowerBook and LC 4.5.1 tested on > OS X 10.6.6 on an Intel Mac Mini. > > I really appreciate your help. > Paul Looney > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
On Jan 12, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Tereza Snyder wrote: On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Paul Looney wrote: So, two questions: 1. Can you recommend something for layering objects in LC 4.5.1 and later? Chipp’s AltLayerTools does it for me! Is this still available? I can't find it on the Altuit website. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
Hi Bob, Am 12.01.2011 um 21:03 schrieb Bob Sneidar: > Are we sure that Trevor is not a super intelligent albeit benevolent alien > species sent here to hasten mankind's progress to interstellar status? No! :-D > Or maybe they were sent here to make us mind-fat so they could feed off our > brain energy. > > Bob > > Trevor knows all. >> >> t >> >> -- >> Tereza Snyder Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Paul Looney wrote: Paul, > Having adjusted the object layers in an older version of Rev, the DataGrids > will not work on the stack when it is reopened in LC 4.0 or 4.5.1. All of > the grid objects are there but they have no "intelligence": Behave like the datagrid has lost its behavior link with the datagrid library > 1. setting the dgText of the grid group does nothing - does not produce an > error, using a "try/catch" shows nothing You should have the dgText nested in the custom properties of the group, with all the other properties you tried. > 2. the columns are the same size but have no column widths in the Columns > tab on the object inspector > 3. "the behavior of group 'DataGrid'" returns empty, not "button id 1005 of > stack "revDataGridLibrary"" Hum, You have probably thought to that, but what about trying to set the behavior of your group to the corresponding datagrid engine button? set the behavior of grp "myDataGrid" to "button id 1005 of stack " & quote & "revDataGridLibrary" & quote Then in the inspector, use the "Refresh datagrid" button Best regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
Are we sure that Trevor is not a super intelligent albeit benevolent alien species sent here to hasten mankind's progress to interstellar status? Or maybe they were sent here to make us mind-fat so they could feed off our brain energy. Bob > Trevor knows all. > > > t > > -- > Tereza Snyder > Califex Software, Inc. > > > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Paul Looney wrote: > So, two questions: > 1. Can you recommend something for layering objects in LC 4.5.1 and later? Chipp’s AltLayerTools does it for me! > 2. Is there a way to fix the broken datagrid described above? Trevor knows all. t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids
Fellow Programmers, For many years I've used the revNavigator plugin to layer objects - to move objects to any layer, into and out of groups, from one group to another, etc. Somewhere around Rev 3.5 the revNavigator broke. Dragging objects in the list would only put bookmarks at the top of the list - leaving the selected object in its original layer. Using the Option key to move objects in groups (per the instructions) did not help. I am referring to revNavigator 3.0 RC 1. I can open the stack in an older version of Rev, with the older version of the Navigator and relayering works properly. BUT... Having adjusted the object layers in an older version of Rev, the DataGrids will not work on the stack when it is reopened in LC 4.0 or 4.5.1. All of the grid objects are there but they have no "intelligence": 1. setting the dgText of the grid group does nothing - does not produce an error, using a "try/catch" shows nothing 2. the columns are the same size but have no column widths in the Columns tab on the object inspector 3. "the behavior of group 'DataGrid'" returns empty, not "button id 1005 of stack "revDataGridLibrary"" The original grids in the stack are broken. I can add new grids and they work properly. BUT... If I replace the old grids with new ones, I have no way to put them in the proper layers - short of completely rebuilding a very complex stack. So, two questions: 1. Can you recommend something for layering objects in LC 4.5.1 and later? 2. Is there a way to fix the broken datagrid described above? FYI, LC 4.0 tested on OS X 10.4.11 on a G4 PowerBook and LC 4.5.1 tested on OS X 10.6.6 on an Intel Mac Mini. I really appreciate your help. Paul Looney ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
