Re: LiveCode Windows Applications on Ubuntu

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Yes, they did; silly *ankers (as in "bankers").

Richmond.

On 10/26/17 5:39 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

They clicked the link, didn't they? I Told them! DON'T CLICK THE LINK!!!

Bob S



On Oct 25, 2017, at 21:24 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 wrote:

I have a small 32-bit and a small 64-bit pair of computers set up in a "murky 
corner" of my study with Windows on them
(my bank had some spare licences they gave me because I did some data retrieval for them 
when they got "popped" by
some ransomware a while ago). As I don't like Windows I use them only for 
testing standalones. As the actual computers
cost me $25 each . . .


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Re: LiveCode Windows Applications on Ubuntu

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

It's probably not the server, but rather a mail gateway. 

Bob S


> On Oct 26, 2017, at 08:07 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Which reminds me - I've never seen an email server that had the option to
> strip out all attachments and links.


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Re: LiveCode Windows Applications on Ubuntu

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

Which reminds me - I've never seen an email server that had the option to
strip out all attachments and links.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> They clicked the link, didn't they? I Told them! DON'T CLICK THE LINK!!!
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Oct 25, 2017, at 21:24 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a small 32-bit and a small 64-bit pair of computers set up in a
> "murky corner" of my study with Windows on them
> > (my bank had some spare licences they gave me because I did some data
> retrieval for them when they got "popped" by
> > some ransomware a while ago). As I don't like Windows I use them only
> for testing standalones. As the actual computers
> > cost me $25 each . . .
>
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Re: LiveCode Windows Applications on Ubuntu

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

They clicked the link, didn't they? I Told them! DON'T CLICK THE LINK!!!

Bob S


> On Oct 25, 2017, at 21:24 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a small 32-bit and a small 64-bit pair of computers set up in a "murky 
> corner" of my study with Windows on them
> (my bank had some spare licences they gave me because I did some data 
> retrieval for them when they got "popped" by
> some ransomware a while ago). As I don't like Windows I use them only for 
> testing standalones. As the actual computers
> cost me $25 each . . .


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Re: LiveCode Windows Applications on Ubuntu

[Roger Eller via use-livecode]

"WINE is fine, but LiveCode is quicker." as the old saying goes.  :)

~Roger


On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:24 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> My take on WINE is a bit different from Richard Gaskin's . . .
>
> I 100% agree with his: "Build native apps for Linux and enjoy better
> performance and a simpler experience."
>
>
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Re: LiveCode Windows Applications on Ubuntu

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

My take on WINE is a bit different from Richard Gaskin's . . .

I 100% agree with his: "Build native apps for Linux and enjoy better 
performance and a simpler experience."


and with his:

"If it's for testing Windows compatibility, the emulation won't tell you 
nearly as much as running a full Windows system in a VM."


HOWEVER, IFF (If and Only If) you end up with a LiveCode Windows 
standalone in your hands which you HAVE to run and you
have no access either to a box or a VM running Windows then run it with 
WINE.


I have NEVER had a system conflict with WINE, however the fact that in 
the last 2 years the WINE menu system has vanished, so to
get at the settings one has to fiddle around with the terminal, makes it 
a ridiculous time-waster if there are any other options

available to you.

I have a small 32-bit and a small 64-bit pair of computers set up in a 
"murky corner" of my study with Windows on them
(my bank had some spare licences they gave me because I did some data 
retrieval for them when they got "popped" by
some ransomware a while ago). As I don't like Windows I use them only 
for testing standalones. As the actual computers

cost me $25 each . . .

Creating and using LiveCode Windows applications to run under WINE 
instead of going directly for a Linux build is
daft when LiveCode standalones built for Linux generally run just as 
well without the expectation that one's end-users

are to have WINE installed.

Oh, and if you don't find running LiveCode standalones built for Windows 
with WINE exotic enough try running them with
ReactOS (http://www.reactos.org/), but remember to whip round to the 
local apothecary for a large jar of headache pills first.


Richmond.

On 10/26/17 3:40 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Alejandro Tejada wrote:

> Recently, I was running a few LiveCode Windows applications in Ubuntu
> (using Wine) and found that all of them run really well.
>
> Do you have some advice and caveats for creating and using LiveCode
> Windows applications that runs fine under Wine in Ubuntu or any other
> Linux distribution?

Only this: don't. :)

Build native apps for Linux and enjoy better performance and a simpler 
experience.


It's been a few years since I used WINE, and it may well be that my 
experience with it back then bears no resemblance to how it runs 
today. But it felt very much a workaround, and the range of component 
it added to my system eventually created a conflict with something else.


WINE helped make me a big fan of VirtualBox. :)

If it's for testing Windows compatibility, the emulation won't tell 
you nearly as much as running a full Windows system in a VM.


And if all you want is to run a LiveCode app, a Linux-native build is 
just one click away




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Re: LiveCode Windows Applications on Ubuntu

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Alejandro Tejada wrote:

> Recently, I was running a few LiveCode Windows applications in Ubuntu
> (using Wine) and found that all of them run really well.
>
> Do you have some advice and caveats for creating and using LiveCode
> Windows applications that runs fine under Wine in Ubuntu or any other
> Linux distribution?

Only this: don't. :)

Build native apps for Linux and enjoy better performance and a simpler 
experience.


It's been a few years since I used WINE, and it may well be that my 
experience with it back then bears no resemblance to how it runs today. 
But it felt very much a workaround, and the range of component it added 
to my system eventually created a conflict with something else.


WINE helped make me a big fan of VirtualBox. :)

If it's for testing Windows compatibility, the emulation won't tell you 
nearly as much as running a full Windows system in a VM.


And if all you want is to run a LiveCode app, a Linux-native build is 
just one click away


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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LiveCode Windows Applications on Ubuntu

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Hi All,

Recently, I was running a few LiveCode Windows applications in Ubuntu
(using Wine) and found that all of them run really well.

Do you have some advice and caveats for creating and using LiveCode Windows
applications that runs fine under Wine in Ubuntu or any other Linux
distribution?

Thanks in advance!

Al
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