Re: LiveCode on TIOBE, 2018

2018-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

TIOBE's definitions are outlined here:
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-definition/

Oddly, they don't count Github repos. :/

The bad thing about not including Github is that LC has a growing 
presence there.


The good thing about not including Github is that we're seeing organic 
growth evidenced across more general search engines, arguably an even 
better signal for adoption in an audience likely to include many 
newcomers to programming.


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J. Landman Gay wrote:

How do they gather their data?

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On December 29, 2018 12:23:15 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:



If you saw my Community Roundup talk in the November installment of
LiveCode Global, you know I track the TIOBE Index as a shorthand
indicator of LiveCode's relative marketshare/mindshare.

The TIOBE Index is a list of the Top 100 programming languages in the
world, ranked by popularity among developers.

TIOBE is an imperfect indicator of the relative size of a programming
language's audience, but warts and all it's probably the best we have.
You can view the current index here:
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

When we consider how many hundreds of languages there are, with new ones
sprouting up every year, it's quite remarkable that a scripting language
from a small company in Edinburgh that's been open source only five
years is on the list at all.  But it is.

And while it's currently in the lower 50 languages, also there with
LiveCode are some very well known offerings made by much larger orgs,
including ActionScript, APL, CoffeeScript, Common Lisp, Forth, OpenCL,
PostScript, Smalltalk, Stata, Tcl, TypeScript, VBScript, and Wolfram.

Also worth noting is what isn't on the list at all, including
AppleScript, Qt, and Xojo.

Historically, LC might appear on the TIOBE Index once every few months,
but this year I've tracked it each month and the results are quite
outstanding - it's now December so I can list the full year:

Jan: not listed
Feb: LISTED
Mar: LISTED
Apr: LISTED
May: not listed
Jun: not listed
Jul: not listed
Aug: LISTED
Sep: LISTED
Oct: LISTED
Nov: LISTED
Dec: LISTED

AFAIK no previous year has seen LiveCode present on the TIOBE Index
anywhere near as often, and currently we're in a consistent 5-month run.

Kudos to the team for delivering a great tool satisfying so many.  And
kudos to all of you using LiveCode, as that use contributes to the
recognition of LiveCode's popularity.

I look forward to seeing how LC does on TIOBE through 2019.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems



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Re: LiveCode on TIOBE, 2018

2018-12-29 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

How do they gather their data?

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On December 29, 2018 12:23:15 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:



If you saw my Community Roundup talk in the November installment of
LiveCode Global, you know I track the TIOBE Index as a shorthand
indicator of LiveCode's relative marketshare/mindshare.

The TIOBE Index is a list of the Top 100 programming languages in the
world, ranked by popularity among developers.

TIOBE is an imperfect indicator of the relative size of a programming
language's audience, but warts and all it's probably the best we have.
You can view the current index here:
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

When we consider how many hundreds of languages there are, with new ones
sprouting up every year, it's quite remarkable that a scripting language
from a small company in Edinburgh that's been open source only five
years is on the list at all.  But it is.

And while it's currently in the lower 50 languages, also there with
LiveCode are some very well known offerings made by much larger orgs,
including ActionScript, APL, CoffeeScript, Common Lisp, Forth, OpenCL,
PostScript, Smalltalk, Stata, Tcl, TypeScript, VBScript, and Wolfram.

Also worth noting is what isn't on the list at all, including
AppleScript, Qt, and Xojo.

Historically, LC might appear on the TIOBE Index once every few months,
but this year I've tracked it each month and the results are quite
outstanding - it's now December so I can list the full year:

Jan: not listed
Feb: LISTED
Mar: LISTED
Apr: LISTED
May: not listed
Jun: not listed
Jul: not listed
Aug: LISTED
Sep: LISTED
Oct: LISTED
Nov: LISTED
Dec: LISTED

AFAIK no previous year has seen LiveCode present on the TIOBE Index
anywhere near as often, and currently we're in a consistent 5-month run.

Kudos to the team for delivering a great tool satisfying so many.  And
kudos to all of you using LiveCode, as that use contributes to the
recognition of LiveCode's popularity.

I look forward to seeing how LC does on TIOBE through 2019.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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LiveCode on TIOBE, 2018

2018-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
If you saw my Community Roundup talk in the November installment of 
LiveCode Global, you know I track the TIOBE Index as a shorthand 
indicator of LiveCode's relative marketshare/mindshare.


The TIOBE Index is a list of the Top 100 programming languages in the 
world, ranked by popularity among developers.


TIOBE is an imperfect indicator of the relative size of a programming 
language's audience, but warts and all it's probably the best we have. 
You can view the current index here:

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

When we consider how many hundreds of languages there are, with new ones 
sprouting up every year, it's quite remarkable that a scripting language 
from a small company in Edinburgh that's been open source only five 
years is on the list at all.  But it is.


And while it's currently in the lower 50 languages, also there with 
LiveCode are some very well known offerings made by much larger orgs, 
including ActionScript, APL, CoffeeScript, Common Lisp, Forth, OpenCL, 
PostScript, Smalltalk, Stata, Tcl, TypeScript, VBScript, and Wolfram.


Also worth noting is what isn't on the list at all, including 
AppleScript, Qt, and Xojo.


Historically, LC might appear on the TIOBE Index once every few months, 
but this year I've tracked it each month and the results are quite 
outstanding - it's now December so I can list the full year:


Jan: not listed
Feb: LISTED
Mar: LISTED
Apr: LISTED
May: not listed
Jun: not listed
Jul: not listed
Aug: LISTED
Sep: LISTED
Oct: LISTED
Nov: LISTED
Dec: LISTED

AFAIK no previous year has seen LiveCode present on the TIOBE Index 
anywhere near as often, and currently we're in a consistent 5-month run.


Kudos to the team for delivering a great tool satisfying so many.  And 
kudos to all of you using LiveCode, as that use contributes to the 
recognition of LiveCode's popularity.


I look forward to seeing how LC does on TIOBE through 2019.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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