Re: Mobile cloud storage
For simple, small files this could probably be done with livecode alone as it exists today. For large file uploads where it would block the entire process while it uploads, maybe not so much. I've got high hopes for being able to wrap all kinds of dll's and sdks in livecode in the future when the replacement for externals hits the street. How much of this ends up being do-able with what they are building along those lines is still to be seen. I believe it was the intention to replace externals for non-gui related things with widgets as well, yeah? MongoDB Drivers, sqlcipher, curl, etc? On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Mark Wilcox m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk wrote: So most folks have either iCloud, Goggle Drive, Dropbox, or OwnCloud, and using those sure beats building a complex storage backend for simple apps. Does our community have yet a library for allowing the user to pick which common storage system they have and an API for reading/writing to it? Apple made a generic solution for this on iOS and OS X. Document Provider Extensions (OK, new OS versions only). https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/documentation/General/Conceptual/ExtensibilityPG/FileProvider.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40014214-CH18-SW1 If you want to read and write files from/to cloud storage then there's single interface and the device only shows providers that the user has installed/configured. The latter part you obviously can't get without being the OS provider and having providers write Extensions to tell the system they offer file storage. For Apple platforms at least it would make sense to mimic the interface as far as possible though, assuming you don't just want to wrap what they've already done. -- Mark Wilcox m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
Oops This is wrong: Dave Kilroy wrote so tightly bound-in to phxDropboxLib which is not Guglielmo's baby and not mine This is what I should have written: so tightly bound-in to phxDropboxLib which is Guglielmo's baby and not mine Dave - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Mobile-cloud-storage-tp4688420p4688479.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
Hi Alan, i assume it is not on sale anymore. I purchased that external in 2012 and it worked as supposed. But with newer LC and iOS SDK it did not work anymore. I contacted Maarten and he send me the source code, so i could compile it with newer xCode version. I was able to, but was not successful in using it afterwards. But this might be a problem on my side. ;) Maybe you try to contact him off-list. Regards, Matthias Am 05.02.2015 um 11:11 schrieb Alan Stenhouse alanstenho...@hotmail.com: Has anyone used this external miCloud? Would like to have a look but Maarten’s website seems to no longer exist… http://maartenkoopmans.com/micloud Anyone heard from him lately or used the external? Is it available somewhere else? cheers Alan On 4 Feb 2015, at 11:42 pm, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: And some time agao Maarten Koopmans created an iCloud external called miCloud. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
Concerning authentication and fog - is it just Dropbox authentication that is 'foggy'? If so then I may be able to help I'm using phxDropboxLib together with a dropbox app (created on dropbox's website, it's very easy to do) and a new dropbox account to allow apps to connect to the same dropbox account and sync assets - this doesn't use up a users's Dropbox storage allowance or have any connection to his/her Dropbox account. I haven't yet but could easily have the app connect to the user's own dropbox account (and thus saving preferences and other data for them) I created my own little substack to deal with the Dropbox authentication stuff and when everything is connected the app saves the login credentials locally so that on each relaunch it just connects each time it launches (I have to put in a 'permission to connect to the internet' dialog box and save the response locally). I did think about putting up my approach onto rev online but decided I shouldn't because it was so tightly bound-in to phxDropboxLib which is not Guglielmo's baby and not mine Setting it up was a bit of a mind-bender - I did actually record a very bad video about it giving a 'general overview' to the process rather than being a tutorial. If there was interest I could record it again (too many 'ums' and 'ems'). Alternatively/and/or can you explain where the 'foggy bits' are? Kind regards Dave Guglielmo Braguglia's Dropbox library is at: http://www.phoenixsea.ch/downloads/Livecode/phxDropboxLib.zip - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Mobile-cloud-storage-tp4688420p4688478.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
So most folks have either iCloud, Goggle Drive, Dropbox, or OwnCloud, and using those sure beats building a complex storage backend for simple apps. Does our community have yet a library for allowing the user to pick which common storage system they have and an API for reading/writing to it? Apple made a generic solution for this on iOS and OS X. Document Provider Extensions (OK, new OS versions only). https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/documentation/General/Conceptual/ExtensibilityPG/FileProvider.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40014214-CH18-SW1 If you want to read and write files from/to cloud storage then there's single interface and the device only shows providers that the user has installed/configured. The latter part you obviously can't get without being the OS provider and having providers write Extensions to tell the system they offer file storage. For Apple platforms at least it would make sense to mimic the interface as far as possible though, assuming you don't just want to wrap what they've already done. -- Mark Wilcox m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
Has anyone used this external miCloud? Would like to have a look but Maarten’s website seems to no longer exist… http://maartenkoopmans.com/micloud Anyone heard from him lately or used the external? Is it available somewhere else? cheers Alan On 4 Feb 2015, at 11:42 pm, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: And some time agao Maarten Koopmans created an iCloud external called miCloud. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
FYI, I uncovered another issue with phxDropboxLib, but it doesn't affect mobile, and I haven't had time to competely chase it down and patch it, either. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:06 AM, miked...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, I would be happy to share when the fog lifts. :-) Original Message From: Mike Bonner Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:03 AM To: How to use LiveCode Reply To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Mobile cloud storage Michael D., IF you DO get to where you understand the authentication stuff, could you share your understanding? I struggle with the same area of knowledge, and you're right. Everything is written as if its already understood, and you just need a few specifics for the service rather than an actual explanation and tutorial. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Michael Doub miked...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, The only one that I am aware of is phxDropboxLib for Dropbox. I would not mind taking on this project if I could team up with someone for help understanding the authorization parts of each. I still have not gotten my head wrapped around how this is supposed to work and all of the API docs that I have read seem assume you understand it...and I don't! Upfront design collaboration would be helpful as well if the goal is to have a common interface. Regards, Mike On 2/3/15 6:03 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So most folks have either iCloud, Goggle Drive, Dropbox, or OwnCloud, and using those sure beats building a complex storage backend for simple apps. Does our community have yet a library for allowing the user to pick which common storage system they have and an API for reading/writing to it? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
Michael D., IF you DO get to where you understand the authentication stuff, could you share your understanding? I struggle with the same area of knowledge, and you're right. Everything is written as if its already understood, and you just need a few specifics for the service rather than an actual explanation and tutorial. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Michael Doub miked...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, The only one that I am aware of is phxDropboxLib for Dropbox. I would not mind taking on this project if I could team up with someone for help understanding the authorization parts of each. I still have not gotten my head wrapped around how this is supposed to work and all of the API docs that I have read seem assume you understand it...and I don't! Upfront design collaboration would be helpful as well if the goal is to have a common interface. Regards, Mike On 2/3/15 6:03 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So most folks have either iCloud, Goggle Drive, Dropbox, or OwnCloud, and using those sure beats building a complex storage backend for simple apps. Does our community have yet a library for allowing the user to pick which common storage system they have and an API for reading/writing to it? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
Sure, I would be happy to share when the fog lifts. :-) Original Message From: Mike Bonner Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:03 AM To: How to use LiveCode Reply To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Mobile cloud storage Michael D., IF you DO get to where you understand the authentication stuff, could you share your understanding? I struggle with the same area of knowledge, and you're right. Everything is written as if its already understood, and you just need a few specifics for the service rather than an actual explanation and tutorial. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Michael Doub miked...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, The only one that I am aware of is phxDropboxLib for Dropbox. I would not mind taking on this project if I could team up with someone for help understanding the authorization parts of each. I still have not gotten my head wrapped around how this is supposed to work and all of the API docs that I have read seem assume you understand it...and I don't! Upfront design collaboration would be helpful as well if the goal is to have a common interface. Regards, Mike On 2/3/15 6:03 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So most folks have either iCloud, Goggle Drive, Dropbox, or OwnCloud, and using those sure beats building a complex storage backend for simple apps. Does our community have yet a library for allowing the user to pick which common storage system they have and an API for reading/writing to it? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
Richard, The only one that I am aware of is phxDropboxLib for Dropbox. I would not mind taking on this project if I could team up with someone for help understanding the authorization parts of each. I still have not gotten my head wrapped around how this is supposed to work and all of the API docs that I have read seem assume you understand it...and I don't! Upfront design collaboration would be helpful as well if the goal is to have a common interface. Regards, Mike On 2/3/15 6:03 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So most folks have either iCloud, Goggle Drive, Dropbox, or OwnCloud, and using those sure beats building a complex storage backend for simple apps. Does our community have yet a library for allowing the user to pick which common storage system they have and an API for reading/writing to it? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
And some time agao Maarten Koopmans created an iCloud external called miCloud. Regards, Matthias Am 04.02.2015 um 16:01 schrieb Michael Doub miked...@gmail.com: Richard, The only one that I am aware of is phxDropboxLib for Dropbox. I would not mind taking on this project if I could team up with someone for help understanding the authorization parts of each. I still have not gotten my head wrapped around how this is supposed to work and all of the API docs that I have read seem assume you understand it...and I don't! Upfront design collaboration would be helpful as well if the goal is to have a common interface. Regards, Mike On 2/3/15 6:03 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So most folks have either iCloud, Goggle Drive, Dropbox, or OwnCloud, and using those sure beats building a complex storage backend for simple apps. Does our community have yet a library for allowing the user to pick which common storage system they have and an API for reading/writing to it? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mobile cloud storage
I’d love to hear about this too. Bill On Feb 3, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: So most folks have either iCloud, Goggle Drive, Dropbox, or OwnCloud, and using those sure beats building a complex storage backend for simple apps. Does our community have yet a library for allowing the user to pick which common storage system they have and an API for reading/writing to it? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Mobile cloud storage
So most folks have either iCloud, Goggle Drive, Dropbox, or OwnCloud, and using those sure beats building a complex storage backend for simple apps. Does our community have yet a library for allowing the user to pick which common storage system they have and an API for reading/writing to it? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
