Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
Eric - that might work, but only if the part of the screen which transitions with the visual effect does not overlap the part which remains stationary (the rect). In my case they do overlap so the snapshot idea, I believe, is the best. Thanks On 7/28/15 8:04 PM, Eric Corbett wrote: Would it be helpful to use lock screen for visual effect in rect tRect? If the controls you want to leave are in a header for instance, tRect would be 0,bottom of header,width of cd,bottom of cd. -E On Jul 28, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Understood, but then I'm still left with how to use the built-in visual effects while hiding one group and showing another and still leave the stationary fields out of the transition. On 7/28/15 6:10 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Dr. Hawkins also suggested the groups idea which I can try, although now that I think about it that might be a little complicated since it's my users, not me, who populate each card with objects. That should not be a problem--you can paste, etc. to groups in the same way as cards, and there is the start editing group sizzle to let them populate the group. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
I think I see what you're trying to do, and if I understand correctly, you can't do it using built-intransitions. You can restrict transitions WITHIN a specified rect or object, but not outside (in this case, the background). What transition are you using -- one of the motion-based options like push or scroll? If yes, one solution could be to use the move command or something like AnimationEngine to physically move background groups left and right (or up and down). But since we're talking about the entire width/height of the card, that might be a lot of screen to update, which could bog down on an underpowered device. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 9:01 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Scott - the main issue is the second one you've mentioned, below, although it would be more accurate to say 'using transitions behind a fixed foreground'. I'd like for the fixed foreground to be transparent, hence the introduction of the custom window shape idea. Dr. Hawkins also suggested the groups idea which I can try, although now that I think about it that might be a little complicated since it's my users, not me, who populate each card with objects. I'm also considering snapshots of the entire screen and transitioning from one PNG to the other while maintaining the same fixed group of objects in the foreground. On 7/28/15 4:52 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: What's the main issue you're trying to solve? A custom window shape or using transitions in front of a fixed background? AFAIK, you can't use the windowShape property on mobile stacks. But you might achieve the effect of one stack in front of another by moving your card-based content into groups, and showing/hiding groups on a single card (with the card acting as the background stack). You can apply the same transitions used when navigating between cards to showing/hiding groups. However, the above might not be necessary. You also might be able to change your background stack into a background object that appears behind all cards in your foreground stack. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 7:51 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: As far as I know, it's not possible to display two stacks simultaneously on either Android or iOS. Does anybody have any suggestions for a work around to this? In my case I have a stack with multiple cards which transition with visual effects as users go from card to card. I'd like to keep this look while at the same time displaying in front of it another, fixed, video game style 'heads-up' stack on screen using the window mask property. Thanks in advance for any ideas! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Multiple Stacks on Mobile
As far as I know, it's not possible to display two stacks simultaneously on either Android or iOS. Does anybody have any suggestions for a work around to this? In my case I have a stack with multiple cards which transition with visual effects as users go from card to card. I'd like to keep this look while at the same time displaying in front of it another, fixed, video game style 'heads-up' stack on screen using the window mask property. Thanks in advance for any ideas! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
Scott - the main issue is the second one you've mentioned, below, although it would be more accurate to say 'using transitions behind a fixed foreground'. I'd like for the fixed foreground to be transparent, hence the introduction of the custom window shape idea. Dr. Hawkins also suggested the groups idea which I can try, although now that I think about it that might be a little complicated since it's my users, not me, who populate each card with objects. I'm also considering snapshots of the entire screen and transitioning from one PNG to the other while maintaining the same fixed group of objects in the foreground. On 7/28/15 4:52 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: What's the main issue you're trying to solve? A custom window shape or using transitions in front of a fixed background? AFAIK, you can't use the windowShape property on mobile stacks. But you might achieve the effect of one stack in front of another by moving your card-based content into groups, and showing/hiding groups on a single card (with the card acting as the background stack). You can apply the same transitions used when navigating between cards to showing/hiding groups. However, the above might not be necessary. You also might be able to change your background stack into a background object that appears behind all cards in your foreground stack. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 7:51 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: As far as I know, it's not possible to display two stacks simultaneously on either Android or iOS. Does anybody have any suggestions for a work around to this? In my case I have a stack with multiple cards which transition with visual effects as users go from card to card. I'd like to keep this look while at the same time displaying in front of it another, fixed, video game style 'heads-up' stack on screen using the window mask property. Thanks in advance for any ideas! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
What's the main issue you're trying to solve? A custom window shape or using transitions in front of a fixed background? AFAIK, you can't use the windowShape property on mobile stacks. But you might achieve the effect of one stack in front of another by moving your card-based content into groups, and showing/hiding groups on a single card (with the card acting as the background stack). You can apply the same transitions used when navigating between cards to showing/hiding groups. However, the above might not be necessary. You also might be able to change your background stack into a background object that appears behind all cards in your foreground stack. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 7:51 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: As far as I know, it's not possible to display two stacks simultaneously on either Android or iOS. Does anybody have any suggestions for a work around to this? In my case I have a stack with multiple cards which transition with visual effects as users go from card to card. I'd like to keep this look while at the same time displaying in front of it another, fixed, video game style 'heads-up' stack on screen using the window mask property. Thanks in advance for any ideas! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
Interesting... So is the idea that if cards become groups, I can then display group after group instead of card after card, but still unlocking the screen with visual effects each time, while maintaining a second 'fixed' group on top? On 7/28/15 4:46 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: As far as I know, it's not possible to display two stacks simultaneously on either Android or iOS. Does anybody have any suggestions for a work around to this? My thinking at the moment as I ponder a tablet version is to use groups. I cleverly created floating stacks for controls that follow the user from datapoint to datapoint. I *think* I can largely change that to a group . . . ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
Richard - many thanks. I'll take a look. On 7/28/15 5:00 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Ray wrote: Interesting... So is the idea that if cards become groups, I can then display group after group instead of card after card, but still unlocking the screen with visual effects each time, while maintaining a second 'fixed' group on top? A long time ago I had to make several set of nested groups and found it painful to do, so I made Pane Reliever, which lets you build a stack and then it gathers up the controls from each card and makes a group for each card, nested within a master group that can be easily copied-and-pasted wherever needed: http://fourthworld.net/revnet/stacks/4W_PaneReliever.mc I haven't even looked at it in years so I have no idea if it even works in recent versions of LC, but feel free to modify it however you like if it seems useful at all. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
Ray wrote: Interesting... So is the idea that if cards become groups, I can then display group after group instead of card after card, but still unlocking the screen with visual effects each time, while maintaining a second 'fixed' group on top? A long time ago I had to make several set of nested groups and found it painful to do, so I made Pane Reliever, which lets you build a stack and then it gathers up the controls from each card and makes a group for each card, nested within a master group that can be easily copied-and-pasted wherever needed: http://fourthworld.net/revnet/stacks/4W_PaneReliever.mc I haven't even looked at it in years so I have no idea if it even works in recent versions of LC, but feel free to modify it however you like if it seems useful at all. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: As far as I know, it's not possible to display two stacks simultaneously on either Android or iOS. Does anybody have any suggestions for a work around to this? My thinking at the moment as I ponder a tablet version is to use groups. I cleverly created floating stacks for controls that follow the user from datapoint to datapoint. I *think* I can largely change that to a group . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Dr. Hawkins also suggested the groups idea which I can try, although now that I think about it that might be a little complicated since it's my users, not me, who populate each card with objects. That should not be a problem--you can paste, etc. to groups in the same way as cards, and there is the start editing group sizzle to let them populate the group. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
I'm currently using this: lock screen for visual effect go next card unlock screen with visual effect push right fast Works great, but it's the whole card. I'd like to maintain a few transparent fields and images in a fixed way in front of this so the whole transition is happening behind these objects, much like a 'heads-up' in a video game which shows how much ammunition you have left. I, too, doubt the move command would work well on under-powered mobile devices. I'm kind of leaning toward something like this: hide the objects I want to remain stationary and get a snapshot of the both the current and destination cards re-show the objects I want to remain stationary lock screen for visual effect hide the snapshot of the current card, show the snapshot of the destination card unlock screen with visual effect push right fast copy the objects I want to remain stationary to the destination card go to the destination card delete both snapshots What do you think? On 7/28/15 5:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I think I see what you're trying to do, and if I understand correctly, you can't do it using built-intransitions. You can restrict transitions WITHIN a specified rect or object, but not outside (in this case, the background). What transition are you using -- one of the motion-based options like push or scroll? If yes, one solution could be to use the move command or something like AnimationEngine to physically move background groups left and right (or up and down). But since we're talking about the entire width/height of the card, that might be a lot of screen to update, which could bog down on an underpowered device. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 9:01 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Scott - the main issue is the second one you've mentioned, below, although it would be more accurate to say 'using transitions behind a fixed foreground'. I'd like for the fixed foreground to be transparent, hence the introduction of the custom window shape idea. Dr. Hawkins also suggested the groups idea which I can try, although now that I think about it that might be a little complicated since it's my users, not me, who populate each card with objects. I'm also considering snapshots of the entire screen and transitioning from one PNG to the other while maintaining the same fixed group of objects in the foreground. On 7/28/15 4:52 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: What's the main issue you're trying to solve? A custom window shape or using transitions in front of a fixed background? AFAIK, you can't use the windowShape property on mobile stacks. But you might achieve the effect of one stack in front of another by moving your card-based content into groups, and showing/hiding groups on a single card (with the card acting as the background stack). You can apply the same transitions used when navigating between cards to showing/hiding groups. However, the above might not be necessary. You also might be able to change your background stack into a background object that appears behind all cards in your foreground stack. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 7:51 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: As far as I know, it's not possible to display two stacks simultaneously on either Android or iOS. Does anybody have any suggestions for a work around to this? In my case I have a stack with multiple cards which transition with visual effects as users go from card to card. I'd like to keep this look while at the same time displaying in front of it another, fixed, video game style 'heads-up' stack on screen using the window mask property. Thanks in advance for any ideas! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
If you're planning to hide the stationary objects during the transition, that would work, but otherwise, I don't think so. You can't use a built-in motion transition and keep objects (real or virtual) in a fixed location on the card. One thing that came to mind as another option is the updated browser control. I *think* the new version might allow layering with other LiveCode objects, but I'm not sure. If yes, then that could be an option since you could place a browser on the first layer of the card to display background images, and use Javascript to do some nice transitions behind objects in the foreground. How well this would work on mobile, if it does at all, I have no idea. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 9:37 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: I'm currently using this: lock screen for visual effect go next card unlock screen with visual effect push right fast Works great, but it's the whole card. I'd like to maintain a few transparent fields and images in a fixed way in front of this so the whole transition is happening behind these objects, much like a 'heads-up' in a video game which shows how much ammunition you have left. I, too, doubt the move command would work well on under-powered mobile devices. I'm kind of leaning toward something like this: hide the objects I want to remain stationary and get a snapshot of the both the current and destination cards re-show the objects I want to remain stationary lock screen for visual effect hide the snapshot of the current card, show the snapshot of the destination card unlock screen with visual effect push right fast copy the objects I want to remain stationary to the destination card go to the destination card delete both snapshots What do you think? On 7/28/15 5:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I think I see what you're trying to do, and if I understand correctly, you can't do it using built-intransitions. You can restrict transitions WITHIN a specified rect or object, but not outside (in this case, the background). What transition are you using -- one of the motion-based options like push or scroll? If yes, one solution could be to use the move command or something like AnimationEngine to physically move background groups left and right (or up and down). But since we're talking about the entire width/height of the card, that might be a lot of screen to update, which could bog down on an underpowered device. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 9:01 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Scott - the main issue is the second one you've mentioned, below, although it would be more accurate to say 'using transitions behind a fixed foreground'. I'd like for the fixed foreground to be transparent, hence the introduction of the custom window shape idea. Dr. Hawkins also suggested the groups idea which I can try, although now that I think about it that might be a little complicated since it's my users, not me, who populate each card with objects. I'm also considering snapshots of the entire screen and transitioning from one PNG to the other while maintaining the same fixed group of objects in the foreground. On 7/28/15 4:52 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: What's the main issue you're trying to solve? A custom window shape or using transitions in front of a fixed background? AFAIK, you can't use the windowShape property on mobile stacks. But you might achieve the effect of one stack in front of another by moving your card-based content into groups, and showing/hiding groups on a single card (with the card acting as the background stack). You can apply the same transitions used when navigating between cards to showing/hiding groups. However, the above might not be necessary. You also might be able to change your background stack into a background object that appears behind all cards in your foreground stack. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 7:51 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: As far as I know, it's not possible to display two stacks simultaneously on either Android or iOS. Does anybody have any suggestions for a work around to this? In my case I have a stack with multiple cards which transition with visual effects as users go from card to card. I'd like to keep this look while at the same time displaying in front of it another, fixed, video game style 'heads-up' stack on screen using the window mask property. Thanks in advance for any ideas! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
Understood, but then I'm still left with how to use the built-in visual effects while hiding one group and showing another and still leave the stationary fields out of the transition. On 7/28/15 6:10 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Dr. Hawkins also suggested the groups idea which I can try, although now that I think about it that might be a little complicated since it's my users, not me, who populate each card with objects. That should not be a problem--you can paste, etc. to groups in the same way as cards, and there is the start editing group sizzle to let them populate the group. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
Scott - I'm experimenting with this now and not having a whole lot of success, mainly due to the limitation you've mentioned here. I was hoping I could hide and show images instead of going from card to card. That might leave a field on screen independent of the transition, but I was wrong. You're right. You can't use a built-in motion transition and keep an object on the card independent of it. I'm not hopeful about the browser idea on mobile so I have to give this some thought. I guess I can experiment with the move command. Wouldn't it be nice if I could just display a stack as a floating palette on mobile! On 7/28/15 5:59 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: If you're planning to hide the stationary objects during the transition, that would work, but otherwise, I don't think so. You can't use a built-in motion transition and keep objects (real or virtual) in a fixed location on the card. One thing that came to mind as another option is the updated browser control. I *think* the new version might allow layering with other LiveCode objects, but I'm not sure. If yes, then that could be an option since you could place a browser on the first layer of the card to display background images, and use Javascript to do some nice transitions behind objects in the foreground. How well this would work on mobile, if it does at all, I have no idea. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 9:37 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: I'm currently using this: lock screen for visual effect go next card unlock screen with visual effect push right fast Works great, but it's the whole card. I'd like to maintain a few transparent fields and images in a fixed way in front of this so the whole transition is happening behind these objects, much like a 'heads-up' in a video game which shows how much ammunition you have left. I, too, doubt the move command would work well on under-powered mobile devices. I'm kind of leaning toward something like this: hide the objects I want to remain stationary and get a snapshot of the both the current and destination cards re-show the objects I want to remain stationary lock screen for visual effect hide the snapshot of the current card, show the snapshot of the destination card unlock screen with visual effect push right fast copy the objects I want to remain stationary to the destination card go to the destination card delete both snapshots What do you think? On 7/28/15 5:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I think I see what you're trying to do, and if I understand correctly, you can't do it using built-intransitions. You can restrict transitions WITHIN a specified rect or object, but not outside (in this case, the background). What transition are you using -- one of the motion-based options like push or scroll? If yes, one solution could be to use the move command or something like AnimationEngine to physically move background groups left and right (or up and down). But since we're talking about the entire width/height of the card, that might be a lot of screen to update, which could bog down on an underpowered device. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 9:01 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Scott - the main issue is the second one you've mentioned, below, although it would be more accurate to say 'using transitions behind a fixed foreground'. I'd like for the fixed foreground to be transparent, hence the introduction of the custom window shape idea. Dr. Hawkins also suggested the groups idea which I can try, although now that I think about it that might be a little complicated since it's my users, not me, who populate each card with objects. I'm also considering snapshots of the entire screen and transitioning from one PNG to the other while maintaining the same fixed group of objects in the foreground. On 7/28/15 4:52 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: What's the main issue you're trying to solve? A custom window shape or using transitions in front of a fixed background? AFAIK, you can't use the windowShape property on mobile stacks. But you might achieve the effect of one stack in front of another by moving your card-based content into groups, and showing/hiding groups on a single card (with the card acting as the background stack). You can apply the same transitions used when navigating between cards to showing/hiding groups. However, the above might not be necessary. You also might be able to change your background stack into a background object that appears behind all cards in your foreground stack. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 7/28/15, 7:51 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: As far as I know, it's not possible to display two stacks simultaneously on either Android or iOS. Does anybody have any suggestions for a work around to this? In my case I have a stack with multiple cards which transition
Re: Multiple Stacks on Mobile
Would it be helpful to use lock screen for visual effect in rect tRect? If the controls you want to leave are in a header for instance, tRect would be 0,bottom of header,width of cd,bottom of cd. -E On Jul 28, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Understood, but then I'm still left with how to use the built-in visual effects while hiding one group and showing another and still leave the stationary fields out of the transition. On 7/28/15 6:10 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: Dr. Hawkins also suggested the groups idea which I can try, although now that I think about it that might be a little complicated since it's my users, not me, who populate each card with objects. That should not be a problem--you can paste, etc. to groups in the same way as cards, and there is the start editing group sizzle to let them populate the group. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode