Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
I'm happy to see in the newsletter announcement of LC 5.5 I just received that it retains Save As as a file menu option. Maybe Apple will ban LC from use on desktops because of that, who knows. Pete On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Tim Jones tolis...@me.com wrote: On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/19/12 3:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote: This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a locked volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying to do in the first place)… Is Export supposed to do that now? Mind, I'm still going on theoreticals until I actually install Lion. ... but what you're supposed to do is according to my Apple Store Genius is Duplicate the opened file, close the original, change the new Copy and then Save. When you save the duplicate, you'll be prompted with the normal Save As... dialogs. And I agree, this is two steps back. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Hi, Thanks for all the answers and I didn´t expect to generate such a debate about this issue. ;-) My previous version of Xcode was the 4.2 and I couldn´t find the 4.3 in the Apple developers site, as Mike suggests. So, I will keep my 4.2 files while waiting for the official LC solution. I hope it will work in the next LC version, isn't it ? When it is supposed to be released ? I am really very tired of fighting against leopards and lions and bears and mountains and and and … I share the opinion that all this stuff is running backwards, probably to make us all to spend more money in their brilliant and amazing and exciting solutions … :-( Best regards. __ Sergio Schvarstein __ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Sergio, 1) Log into developer.apple.com 2) Top left (Dev Centers) pick iOS 3) Scroll down to the Downloads section. 4) Top item is Xcode 4.3.1 for Lion. Click on the button that says Download XCode 4 5) Below the break is a section that says Download Xcode 4 for free. Below that is a subsection that says Xcode 4.3.1 for Lion. at the bottom of that section is a bolded hader that says Looking for additional developer tools?. Click the link that says View Downloads 6) Pick your poison. Note that there are 7 pages of downloads, including Xcode 4.3 for Lion. I have not tried to run this in Snow Leopard, but if you're looking for 4.3, that's where it is. Click on the blue disclosure triangle to see the download link. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
I'll bet, not knowing for sure, that if you hold down the shift key when you log in, the Finder will not re-open all those apps. Bob On Mar 18, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Really, Lion isn't so bad after you adjust its insane default mouse preferences. I can see that on a trackpad or touchscreen, you might want to 'push' the page when you pan. But with a mouse scrollwheel, it just feels wrong. So I uncheck that option. There's also a default setting to always re-open every freakin' document I had open the last time I used this application. That one was really irritating. And in the event of a crash, when you reboot, every app and document you had open will re-open (and you can't change that one). Regarding crashing, it doesn't crash often. It is quite stable, but when/if it does, the above applies. If you restart, you have to un-check the option to re-open everything (unless that's what you want). As 7 of 9 (of Star Trek Voyager) would say, You will - adapt. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Thanks Mike ! Really a brilliant guided tour ! :-D I've got it and I am downloading it now. Thanks ++ __ Sergio Schvarstein __ El 19/03/2012, a las 18:00, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com escribió: Sergio, 1) Log into developer.apple.com 2) Top left (Dev Centers) pick iOS 3) Scroll down to the Downloads section. 4) Top item is Xcode 4.3.1 for Lion. Click on the button that says Download XCode 4 5) Below the break is a section that says Download Xcode 4 for free. Below that is a subsection that says Xcode 4.3.1 for Lion. at the bottom of that section is a bolded hader that says Looking for additional developer tools?. Click the link that says View Downloads 6) Pick your poison. Note that there are 7 pages of downloads, including Xcode 4.3 for Lion. I have not tried to run this in Snow Leopard, but if you're looking for 4.3, that's where it is. Click on the blue disclosure triangle to see the download link. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On Mar 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/18/12 1:13 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Also they have basically de-balled two included apps that I depended on - Preview and TextEdit - due to the removal of the Save As feature, Apparently all apps will follow suit eventually: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/16334/os-x-lion-where-did-save-as-go/ One more thing to add to my list. This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a locked volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying to do in the first place)… I'm just waiting for someone to write an OS extension that puts Save As back in the File menu… :D Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: New Xcode 4.3.1
What language is this article in? Save As is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes. ?? Now because of these changes, the traditional Save As command no longer makes since. Since Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ken Ray Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:26 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: New Xcode 4.3.1 On Mar 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/18/12 1:13 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Also they have basically de-balled two included apps that I depended on - Preview and TextEdit - due to the removal of the Save As feature, Apparently all apps will follow suit eventually: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/16334/os-x-lion-where-did-save-as-go/ One more thing to add to my list. This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a locked volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying to do in the first place). I'm just waiting for someone to write an OS extension that puts Save As back in the File menu. :D Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: What language is this article in? Save As is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes. ?? Now because of these changes, the traditional Save As command no longer makes since. Since Uh oh, looks like somebody's koolaid is wearing off. Eveyone knows that this is Apple-ese. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
My Kool-aid is still going strong. Bob On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Tim Jones wrote: On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: What language is this article in? Save As is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes. ?? Now because of these changes, the traditional Save As command no longer makes since. Since Uh oh, looks like somebody's koolaid is wearing off. Eveyone knows that this is Apple-ese. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Ralph- Monday, March 19, 2012, 1:40:59 PM, you wrote: What language is this article in? Save As is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes. ?? Now because of these changes, the traditional Save As command no longer makes since. Since My guess is it was spellchecked by an iPhone. And grammarchecked by nobody. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On 3/19/12 3:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote: This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a locked volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying to do in the first place)… Is Export supposed to do that now? Mind, I'm still going on theoreticals until I actually install Lion. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/19/12 3:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote: This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a locked volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying to do in the first place)… Is Export supposed to do that now? Mind, I'm still going on theoreticals until I actually install Lion. ... but what you're supposed to do is according to my Apple Store Genius is Duplicate the opened file, close the original, change the new Copy and then Save. When you save the duplicate, you'll be prompted with the normal Save As... dialogs. And I agree, this is two steps back. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
In the locked down Apple future, companies who do what those folks did might find themselves locked outside the building. Mountain Lion isn't in beta, though... the current release is Developer Preview 2. Beta comes next. And there can be big differences between developer preview and beta. I keep Macs running for a living (client and server) and historically you don't want to move to anything until at LEAST the dot dot 3 release. Or in the case of OS X Server, the dot dot 5 release. :) Apple messed everything up now, though, because 10.8 Server will be out before 10.7.5 ever hits. Jacque, I had to move to 10.7 before I wanted to also. As you know, the biggest issue is that it breaks all the old apps like AppleWorks, etc. The other big issue for me is that the Color Vampire had his way with the Finder... The entire left hand Finder column is void of real color. Whoever made that decision at Apple should have been fired on the spot. On Mar 17, 2012, at 10:57 PM, stephen barncard wrote: And Lion is the current system! What can an ordinary developer do? I have tried twice to try out Mountain Lion beta ( on a separate drive of course ) - both times TOTAL CRASH - debugger, then black screen of death. (did I just blow my NDA?) checked the logs... at the top was a reference to the 'Free' DAZ software. perhaps it's that global again. sqb On 17 March 2012 19:25, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 3/17/12 4:31 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: OK, You must have xCode 4.3 xCode 4.3.1 There are two copies to perform, Alas, those of us still in Snow Leopard can't run XCode 4.3.1 at all. I tried copying the files the other direction (5.1 SDK into XCode 4.2) and the simulator works fine but LiveCode won't open it. It flips the simulator back to 5.0. I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Really, Lion isn't so bad after you adjust its insane default mouse preferences. I can see that on a trackpad or touchscreen, you might want to 'push' the page when you pan. But with a mouse scrollwheel, it just feels wrong. So I uncheck that option. There's also a default setting to always re-open every freakin' document I had open the last time I used this application. That one was really irritating. And in the event of a crash, when you reboot, every app and document you had open will re-open (and you can't change that one). Regarding crashing, it doesn't crash often. It is quite stable, but when/if it does, the above applies. If you restart, you have to un-check the option to re-open everything (unless that's what you want). As 7 of 9 (of Star Trek Voyager) would say, You will - adapt. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
The re-open thing and some other UI malfunctions can be fixed (app by app) using Tinkertool. On 18 March 2012 08:25, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Really, Lion isn't so bad after you adjust its insane default mouse preferences. I can see that on a trackpad or touchscreen, you might want to 'push' the page when you pan. But with a mouse scrollwheel, it just feels wrong. So I uncheck that option. There's also a default setting to always re-open every freakin' document I had open the last time I used this application. That one was really irritating. And in the event of a crash, when you reboot, every app and document you had open will re-open (and you can't change that one). Regarding crashing, it doesn't crash often. It is quite stable, but when/if it does, the above applies. If you restart, you have to un-check the option to re-open everything (unless that's what you want). As 7 of 9 (of Star Trek Voyager) would say, You will - adapt. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On 3/18/12 10:25 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Roger, Pierre, etc., thanks, but I know Lion works with LiveCode. I just don't like how Lion works in general. I have collected many pages of tips on how to change its behaviors so I can work with the OS the way I'm used to, and when I update -- which I have to do soon -- I'll spend a day implementing all that. But I resent it. I shouldn't have to install Tinkertool, or use Terminal, or any of the rest of it. I definitely do NOT want auto-save, I don't want every document I work with preserved and re-presented, I don't want cloud storage unless I say so, I don't think gestures are as good or precise as a mouse, I want the Library folders always in view (yes, I know how to get that) and I don't want all the other improvements that I consider a step backward and which interfere with my work flow. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
I am ashamed to mention how many expletive-laced tirades I've had over this recent 'upgrade' to Lion. It all started last month with wanting to sync the calendars and contacts with all my devices after I replaced my barely functional 3g iPhone with a 4s, and finding out that this iClod stuff only works with Lion. Apple is getting awfully arrogant these days, when they're flush with money and success. They don't teach anger management when it comes to dealing with idiotic computer ideas. All options are on the table. It feels better that I am not alone! sqb On 18 March 2012 10:33, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 3/18/12 10:25 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Roger, Pierre, etc., thanks, but I know Lion works with LiveCode. I just don't like how Lion works in general. I have collected many pages of tips on how to change its behaviors so I can work with the OS the way I'm used to, and when I update -- which I have to do soon -- I'll spend a day implementing all that. But I resent it. I shouldn't have to install Tinkertool, or use Terminal, or any of the rest of it. I definitely do NOT want auto-save, I don't want every document I work with preserved and re-presented, I don't want cloud storage unless I say so, I don't think gestures are as good or precise as a mouse, I want the Library folders always in view (yes, I know how to get that) and I don't want all the other improvements that I consider a step backward and which interfere with my work flow. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Also they have basically de-balled two included apps that I depended on - Preview and TextEdit - due to the removal of the Save As feature, requiring a totally new non-intuitive dance to change a document (requiring many more steps), and the loss of some of the graphic features in the earlier versions of Preview that were so good I could live without Photoshop. All this for no reason. I wanted to try *Mountain Goat* Dev preview to see if perhaps they had reconsidered, but I can't seem to get beyond the install. On 18 March 2012 11:07, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote: I am ashamed to mention how many expletive-laced tirades I've had over this recent 'upgrade' to Lion. It all started last month with wanting to sync the calendars and contacts with all my devices after I replaced my barely functional 3g iPhone with a 4s, and finding out that this iClod stuff only works with Lion. Apple is getting awfully arrogant these days, when they're flush with money and success. They don't teach anger management when it comes to dealing with idiotic computer ideas. All options are on the table. It feels better that I am not alone! sqb On 18 March 2012 10:33, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 3/18/12 10:25 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Roger, Pierre, etc., thanks, but I know Lion works with LiveCode. I just don't like how Lion works in general. I have collected many pages of tips on how to change its behaviors so I can work with the OS the way I'm used to, and when I update -- which I have to do soon -- I'll spend a day implementing all that. But I resent it. I shouldn't have to install Tinkertool, or use Terminal, or any of the rest of it. I definitely do NOT want auto-save, I don't want every document I work with preserved and re-presented, I don't want cloud storage unless I say so, I don't think gestures are as good or precise as a mouse, I want the Library folders always in view (yes, I know how to get that) and I don't want all the other improvements that I consider a step backward and which interfere with my work flow. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Stephen, More dumbing down, yes, I agree... but you would be stunned at the number of people who, even though it's 2012, still don't know the difference between Save and Save As. For that matter, I still see people double-clicking in instances where you are supposed to single click, such as launching an item in the Dock. For those who teach others how to use a computer, or who fix basic computer issues for others, this is job security, I guess. --- Richard MacLemale Music = http://www.richardmac.com Programming = http://www.macandchee.se On Mar 18, 2012, at 3:01 PM, stephen barncard wrote: More file bloat and needless BS, if you ask me... more dumbing down... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
I just don't think making it goof-proof for the lowest common denominator at the expense of obliterating time proven methods that worked for the experienced the last 30 years is progress. It will just make them more dependent. Was this stuff really that broken? Maybe there should be a Dumbass option, like the kiosk mode. Do it in the browser, but leave my OS alone. On 18 March 2012 12:27, Richard MacLemale rich...@richardmac.com wrote: Stephen, More dumbing down, yes, I agree... but you would be stunned at the number of people who, even though it's 2012, still don't know the difference between Save and Save As. For that matter, I still see people double-clicking in instances where you are supposed to single click, such as launching an item in the Dock. For those who teach others how to use a computer, or who fix basic computer issues for others, this is job security, I guess. --- Richard MacLemale Music = http://www.richardmac.com Programming = http://www.macandchee.se On Mar 18, 2012, at 3:01 PM, stephen barncard wrote: More file bloat and needless BS, if you ask me... more dumbing down... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Then I'm on my way to Alaska to become a professional bear hunter tour guide. Sent from my iPad On Mar 18, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Richard- Sunday, March 18, 2012, 1:15:22 PM, you wrote: Ha ha ha! Yes, a Dumbass mode would be very nice. I agree with you - I was just pointing out that there are a lot of, um, dumbasses out there. :) I do have a concern that Apple is going to slowly make OS X look like iOS. Hopefully that doesn't happen. It *will* happen. Look at Windows 8. If you can't do it on a smartphone, it's on its way to being extinct. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On Mar 18, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Sunday, March 18, 2012, 1:53:19 PM, you wrote: Then I'm on my way to Alaska to become a professional bear hunter tour guide. Whoa! There are professional bears? Those are the ones that: some days the bear gets you. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On 3/18/12 5:05 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Sunday, March 18, 2012, 1:53:19 PM, you wrote: Then I'm on my way to Alaska to become a professional bear hunter tour guide. Whoa! There are professional bears? In the stock market. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Hi Tom, Sorry to be a simpleton on this, but I cannot seem to get this to work. Your statement that we can get 4.3.1 to work with LC 5.5rc2 is encouraging. Would you mind providing more specifics regarding what files/folders need to be copied from/to each location? On my Mac Pro, I see /Library/Developer/ with the following subdirectories: /4.0 /4.2 /4.2.1 /Documentation /Shared I see the /Platforms directory in the Xcode.app package. What do I copy from there and to where? Thanks much, Ed On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: 4.3.1 does work with LC 5.5rc2 -IF you copy over both the iOS 5.0 simulator SDK and the iOS 5.0 developer SDK to their appropriate folders in the 4.3.1 app bundle. That said, You can then check out how your app will look in the retina size for iPad only in the simulator using Simulator 5.1 But you will only be able to build with 5.0 for the device and not 5.1-- LC will do that for you if all four SDKs are available. To say again it is iOS 5.1 that is not supported yet by LC for device builds. But with a little copying you can still use xCode 4.3.1 with BOTH the 5.0 for device builds and 5.1 SDKs for the Simulator. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Mar 16, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Using : MBP i7, OSX 10.6.8, XCode 4.2, Android SDK API 8 to 15, LC 5.5 rc2 Devices addressed trough the XCode Organizer : iPad 1, iPod Touch Devices directly addressed via the LC test button : iPhone/iPad simulator, Galaxy S2 -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.spimsco.net : la première solution saas open source et commerciale de développement sémantique préprogrammé Le 16 mars 2012 à 19:46, Mike Kerner a écrit : Sergio, 4.3.1 is not supported yet. 4.3 is. You can download 4.3 from Apple's dev site. As of today, there is no solution (despite multiple attempts) for using 4.3.1. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On 3/17/12 4:31 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: OK, You must have xCode 4.3 xCode 4.3.1 There are two copies to perform, Alas, those of us still in Snow Leopard can't run XCode 4.3.1 at all. I tried copying the files the other direction (5.1 SDK into XCode 4.2) and the simulator works fine but LiveCode won't open it. It flips the simulator back to 5.0. I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
And Lion is the current system! What can an ordinary developer do? I have tried twice to try out Mountain Lion beta ( on a separate drive of course ) - both times TOTAL CRASH - debugger, then black screen of death. (did I just blow my NDA?) checked the logs... at the top was a reference to the 'Free' DAZ software. perhaps it's that global again. sqb On 17 March 2012 19:25, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 3/17/12 4:31 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: OK, You must have xCode 4.3 xCode 4.3.1 There are two copies to perform, Alas, those of us still in Snow Leopard can't run XCode 4.3.1 at all. I tried copying the files the other direction (5.1 SDK into XCode 4.2) and the simulator works fine but LiveCode won't open it. It flips the simulator back to 5.0. I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
New Xcode 4.3.1
Hi, I've just installed the new Xcode version 4.3.1. As I can see, now it is installed in the Applications folder, instead of the Developer folder where I still have my previous version. So, the question is: How do this affect the Preferences Mobile Support info inside LiveCode ? Must I change it to the Applications folder ? And one more: The installer gave me the possibility of deleting the whole Developer folder, with my previous version of Xcode and all the other applications included. I still didn´t deleted, just in case, and also because I don´t see installed any new version of the iOS Simulator in the Applications folder. What happens with the iOS simulator, the new version of Xcode and LiveCode ? Thanks for any help. Best Regards. __ Sergio Schvarstein __ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Sergio, 4.3.1 is not supported yet. 4.3 is. You can download 4.3 from Apple's dev site. As of today, there is no solution (despite multiple attempts) for using 4.3.1. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Hi, See inside /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/ -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.spimsco.net : la première solution saas open source et commerciale de développement sémantique préprogrammé Le 16 mars 2012 à 19:21, Sergio Schvarstein a écrit : Hi, I've just installed the new Xcode version 4.3.1. As I can see, now it is installed in the Applications folder, instead of the Developer folder where I still have my previous version. So, the question is: How do this affect the Preferences Mobile Support info inside LiveCode ? Must I change it to the Applications folder ? And one more: The installer gave me the possibility of deleting the whole Developer folder, with my previous version of Xcode and all the other applications included. I still didn´t deleted, just in case, and also because I don´t see installed any new version of the iOS Simulator in the Applications folder. What happens with the iOS simulator, the new version of Xcode and LiveCode ? Thanks for any help. Best Regards. __ Sergio Schvarstein __ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
I will repeat, 4.3.1 does not work with LC at this time. Use 4.2 or 4.3. Unless Pierre has uncovered his own superpowers this afternoon there is currently no workaround. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
Using : MBP i7, OSX 10.6.8, XCode 4.2, Android SDK API 8 to 15, LC 5.5 rc2 Devices addressed trough the XCode Organizer : iPad 1, iPod Touch Devices directly addressed via the LC test button : iPhone/iPad simulator, Galaxy S2 -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.spimsco.net : la première solution saas open source et commerciale de développement sémantique préprogrammé Le 16 mars 2012 à 19:46, Mike Kerner a écrit : Sergio, 4.3.1 is not supported yet. 4.3 is. You can download 4.3 from Apple's dev site. As of today, there is no solution (despite multiple attempts) for using 4.3.1. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
4.3.1 does work with LC 5.5rc2 -IF you copy over both the iOS 5.0 simulator SDK and the iOS 5.0 developer SDK to their appropriate folders in the 4.3.1 app bundle. That said, You can then check out how your app will look in the retina size for iPad only in the simulator using Simulator 5.1 But you will only be able to build with 5.0 for the device and not 5.1-- LC will do that for you if all four SDKs are available. To say again it is iOS 5.1 that is not supported yet by LC for device builds. But with a little copying you can still use xCode 4.3.1 with BOTH the 5.0 for device builds and 5.1 SDKs for the Simulator. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Mar 16, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Using : MBP i7, OSX 10.6.8, XCode 4.2, Android SDK API 8 to 15, LC 5.5 rc2 Devices addressed trough the XCode Organizer : iPad 1, iPod Touch Devices directly addressed via the LC test button : iPhone/iPad simulator, Galaxy S2 -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.spimsco.net : la première solution saas open source et commerciale de développement sémantique préprogrammé Le 16 mars 2012 à 19:46, Mike Kerner a écrit : Sergio, 4.3.1 is not supported yet. 4.3 is. You can download 4.3 from Apple's dev site. As of today, there is no solution (despite multiple attempts) for using 4.3.1. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
