Re: ANSWER: OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-31 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
My client's copy doesn't save the position and size of the script 
editor. Every time she opens it, it appears in the default 
configuration. Might be related.


On 7/31/19 11:47 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

This is probably why when I save the location of a stack before closing it, 
then restore it when I open it, the stack is never exactly where it was before. 
It shifts down and to the left by the same amount in both directions.

Bob S



On Jul 31, 2019, at 09:38 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:

This was a tough bug to pin down, but it is a bug in LC901 through 905rc1 and 
perhaps earlier with the moveStack handler not always redrawing a stack whose 
position is adjusted by the handler under OSX (tested on El Capitan and High 
Sierra)

Test stack and recipe reproducing the problem posted to the Quality Center bug: 
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22267



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Re: ANSWER: OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-31 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
This is probably why when I save the location of a stack before closing it, 
then restore it when I open it, the stack is never exactly where it was before. 
It shifts down and to the left by the same amount in both directions. 

Bob S


> On Jul 31, 2019, at 09:38 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> This was a tough bug to pin down, but it is a bug in LC901 through 905rc1 and 
> perhaps earlier with the moveStack handler not always redrawing a stack whose 
> position is adjusted by the handler under OSX (tested on El Capitan and High 
> Sierra)
> 
> Test stack and recipe reproducing the problem posted to the Quality Center 
> bug: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22267


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ANSWER: OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-31 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
This was a tough bug to pin down, but it is a bug in LC901 through 
905rc1 and perhaps earlier with the moveStack handler not always 
redrawing a stack whose position is adjusted by the handler under OSX 
(tested on El Capitan and High Sierra)


Test stack and recipe reproducing the problem posted to the Quality 
Center bug: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22267



On 7/26/2019 12:27 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22267

We have a screen recording showing the issue (but not what triggered 
it!) that, when I can get it form the QA person who recorded it, I 
will post to the bug report.


In a strange way it is comforting to know some one else is seeing this 
issue too.



On 7/26/2019 11:38 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
I don't see the problem either but my client does. She can't work 
with our stacks and we probably shouldn't ship if it's a widespread 
issue. Her symptoms are identical to what you describe.


Please write up a bug report and if I can get more info from her I'll 
add to it. We have a hard deadline in about 3 weeks.


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On July 26, 2019 9:16:10 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 7/26/2019 12:17 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:05 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I recall a recent (last year/this year - I think) bug where under OSX
High Sierra or Mojave you could end up with double titlebars in your
windows or perhaps it was double menubars?

I have spent a big chunk of time searching the Livecode Quality 
Center

and can not find this bug.

Am I delusional, or was there such a bug and if, so can someone 
point me

to it?


This? https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20923



Yes, thank you. In LiveCode 905rc1 in Standalones on OSX High Sierra we
are seeing an odd behavior where -- something happens -- and the mouse
position in a window (or a multi-window standalone) is displaced
vertically. When you click or drag, LiveCode thinks - just in the 
window

- that the mouse is about 20-30 px above where it currently is.

If you move the mouse out of the affected window to another window, it
is fine. But if you move it back into the effected window, it is still
displaced. If you move the window (aligned by default just under the
menubar) down by the displacement amount, the displacement goes away.
Move the window back up, the displacement returns.

Restart the app and it goes away -- until it occurs again.

It is not in our code and happen in different windows at different
times. It is definitely an LiveCode bug, but we can not create/discover
a recipe for what triggers the bug. It has been suggested that it might
be related to the double titlebars bug or to a bug where the LiveCode
IDE menubar/pallete cause an similar displacement in the IDE. However,
this is in a standalone.

It's driving us batty since we can't ship our app with this bug and
can't get LiveCode to even consider fixing it until we can produce a
test stack with a recipe to reproduce it!



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Re: OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-26 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22267

We have a screen recording showing the issue (but not what triggered 
it!) that, when I can get it form the QA person who recorded it, I will 
post to the bug report.


In a strange way it is comforting to know some one else is seeing this 
issue too.



On 7/26/2019 11:38 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
I don't see the problem either but my client does. She can't work with 
our stacks and we probably shouldn't ship if it's a widespread issue. 
Her symptoms are identical to what you describe.


Please write up a bug report and if I can get more info from her I'll 
add to it. We have a hard deadline in about 3 weeks.


--
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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On July 26, 2019 9:16:10 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 7/26/2019 12:17 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:05 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I recall a recent (last year/this year - I think) bug where under OSX
High Sierra or Mojave you could end up with double titlebars in your
windows or perhaps it was double menubars?

I have spent a big chunk of time searching the Livecode Quality Center
and can not find this bug.

Am I delusional, or was there such a bug and if, so can someone 
point me

to it?


This? https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20923



Yes, thank you. In LiveCode 905rc1 in Standalones on OSX High Sierra we
are seeing an odd behavior where -- something happens -- and the mouse
position in a window (or a multi-window standalone) is displaced
vertically. When you click or drag, LiveCode thinks - just in the window
- that the mouse is about 20-30 px above where it currently is.

If you move the mouse out of the affected window to another window, it
is fine. But if you move it back into the effected window, it is still
displaced. If you move the window (aligned by default just under the
menubar) down by the displacement amount, the displacement goes away.
Move the window back up, the displacement returns.

Restart the app and it goes away -- until it occurs again.

It is not in our code and happen in different windows at different
times. It is definitely an LiveCode bug, but we can not create/discover
a recipe for what triggers the bug. It has been suggested that it might
be related to the double titlebars bug or to a bug where the LiveCode
IDE menubar/pallete cause an similar displacement in the IDE. However,
this is in a standalone.

It's driving us batty since we can't ship our app with this bug and
can't get LiveCode to even consider fixing it until we can produce a
test stack with a recipe to reproduce it!



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Re: OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-26 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode

On 7/26/2019 11:22 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 9:14 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Yes, thank you. In LiveCode 905rc1 in Standalones on OSX High Sierra we
are seeing an odd behavior where -- something happens -- and the mouse
position in a window (or a multi-window standalone) is displaced
vertically. When you click or drag, LiveCode thinks - just in the window
- that the mouse is about 20-30 px above where it currently is.


Do you know if the window opens up with the vertical displacement issue or
is the user interacting with the window without issue and then the vertical
displacement is somehow triggered?



The windows are open and then the problem is some how triggered. 
Sometime it happens soon after a window is open and sometime much later.




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Re: OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-26 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I don't see the problem either but my client does. She can't work with our 
stacks and we probably shouldn't ship if it's a widespread issue. Her 
symptoms are identical to what you describe.


Please write up a bug report and if I can get more info from her I'll add 
to it. We have a hard deadline in about 3 weeks.


--
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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On July 26, 2019 9:16:10 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 7/26/2019 12:17 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:05 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I recall a recent (last year/this year - I think) bug where under OSX
High Sierra or Mojave you could end up with double titlebars in your
windows or perhaps it was double menubars?

I have spent a big chunk of time searching the Livecode Quality Center
and can not find this bug.

Am I delusional, or was there such a bug and if, so can someone point me
to it?


This? https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20923



Yes, thank you. In LiveCode 905rc1 in Standalones on OSX High Sierra we
are seeing an odd behavior where -- something happens -- and the mouse
position in a window (or a multi-window standalone) is displaced
vertically. When you click or drag, LiveCode thinks - just in the window
- that the mouse is about 20-30 px above where it currently is.

If you move the mouse out of the affected window to another window, it
is fine. But if you move it back into the effected window, it is still
displaced. If you move the window (aligned by default just under the
menubar) down by the displacement amount, the displacement goes away.
Move the window back up, the displacement returns.

Restart the app and it goes away -- until it occurs again.

It is not in our code and happen in different windows at different
times. It is definitely an LiveCode bug, but we can not create/discover
a recipe for what triggers the bug. It has been suggested that it might
be related to the double titlebars bug or to a bug where the LiveCode
IDE menubar/pallete cause an similar displacement in the IDE. However,
this is in a standalone.

It's driving us batty since we can't ship our app with this bug and
can't get LiveCode to even consider fixing it until we can produce a
test stack with a recipe to reproduce it!



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Re: OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-26 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 9:14 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> Yes, thank you. In LiveCode 905rc1 in Standalones on OSX High Sierra we
> are seeing an odd behavior where -- something happens -- and the mouse
> position in a window (or a multi-window standalone) is displaced
> vertically. When you click or drag, LiveCode thinks - just in the window
> - that the mouse is about 20-30 px above where it currently is.


Do you know if the window opens up with the vertical displacement issue or
is the user interacting with the window without issue and then the vertical
displacement is somehow triggered?

-- 
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ScreenSteps

>
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Re: OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-26 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode

On 7/26/2019 12:17 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:05 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I recall a recent (last year/this year - I think) bug where under OSX
High Sierra or Mojave you could end up with double titlebars in your
windows or perhaps it was double menubars?

I have spent a big chunk of time searching the Livecode Quality Center
and can not find this bug.

Am I delusional, or was there such a bug and if, so can someone point me
to it?


This? https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20923



Yes, thank you. In LiveCode 905rc1 in Standalones on OSX High Sierra we 
are seeing an odd behavior where -- something happens -- and the mouse 
position in a window (or a multi-window standalone) is displaced 
vertically. When you click or drag, LiveCode thinks - just in the window 
- that the mouse is about 20-30 px above where it currently is.


If you move the mouse out of the affected window to another window, it 
is fine. But if you move it back into the effected window, it is still 
displaced. If you move the window (aligned by default just under the 
menubar) down by the displacement amount, the displacement goes away. 
Move the window back up, the displacement returns.


Restart the app and it goes away -- until it occurs again.

It is not in our code and happen in different windows at different 
times. It is definitely an LiveCode bug, but we can not create/discover 
a recipe for what triggers the bug. It has been suggested that it might 
be related to the double titlebars bug or to a bug where the LiveCode 
IDE menubar/pallete cause an similar displacement in the IDE. However, 
this is in a standalone.


It's driving us batty since we can't ship our app with this bug and 
can't get LiveCode to even consider fixing it until we can produce a 
test stack with a recipe to reproduce it!




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Re: OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-26 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:05 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I recall a recent (last year/this year - I think) bug where under OSX
> High Sierra or Mojave you could end up with double titlebars in your
> windows or perhaps it was double menubars?
>
> I have spent a big chunk of time searching the Livecode Quality Center
> and can not find this bug.
>
> Am I delusional, or was there such a bug and if, so can someone point me
> to it?
>

This? https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20923

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OSX High Sierra and Mojave Double Titlebars or Menubars?

2019-07-25 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I recall a recent (last year/this year - I think) bug where under OSX 
High Sierra or Mojave you could end up with double titlebars in your 
windows or perhaps it was double menubars?


I have spent a big chunk of time searching the Livecode Quality Center 
and can not find this bug.


Am I delusional, or was there such a bug and if, so can someone point me 
to it?



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