Re: OT: PencilCase
They should have named it NaughtyCard. ;-) Sent from my Android tablet On Mar 27, 2014 6:41 PM, "Richmond" wrote: > On 28/03/14 00:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Nakia Brewer wrote: >> >>> I was just trying to make sense of the statement 'Hypercard reimagined' >>> >> >> It's HyperCard reimagined as something that bears almost no resemblance >> to HyperCard. :) >> > > That is why describing it as "Hypercard Reimagined" is naughty. > > Richmond. > > >> Ah, the power the imagination... >> >> > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: OT: PencilCase
All the 'pencilCase' blurb is doing at the moment is 'talking a good job'... late 2014 is a long wat away.. > That is why describing it as "Hypercard Reimagined" is naughty. > > Richmond. > > > > > Ah, the power the imagination... > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: PencilCase
On 28/03/14 00:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: Nakia Brewer wrote: I was just trying to make sense of the statement 'Hypercard reimagined' It's HyperCard reimagined as something that bears almost no resemblance to HyperCard. :) That is why describing it as "Hypercard Reimagined" is naughty. Richmond. Ah, the power the imagination... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: PencilCase
On 28/03/14 00:18, Nakia Brewer wrote: LOL.. Yeah that is true I suppose. I was just trying to make sense of the statement 'Hypercard reimagined' Personally I think "Hypercard reimagined" is just a way to attract people and has little basis in reality. It may be quite a good thing; once it becomes available. But as there's no FREE version like the Livecode Community version anybody who pays for the $119 Personal version is risking their money. As PencilCase uses Javascript, it may be "A WYSIWYG RAD IDE that resembles Hypercard visually", but it is not a Hypercard clone+ as it uses a quite different programming language, which is rather harder to learn than Hypertalk/xTalk/Revolution (the latter being not at all difficult if, in fact, you are old enough to have done some Hypercard programming). Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: PencilCase
Nakia Brewer wrote: I was just trying to make sense of the statement 'Hypercard reimagined' It's HyperCard reimagined as something that bears almost no resemblance to HyperCard. :) Ah, the power the imagination... -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: PencilCase
My thought about that is that if you are trying to make a tool for “the rest of us” to be able to program interesting apps, in 1987 it would be HyperCard, and in 2014 it would be PencilCase. So, it’s reimagining the intent of the tool, not the implementation. On Mar 27, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Nakia Brewer wrote: > >I was just trying to make sense of the statement 'Hypercard reimagined' ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: OT: PencilCase
LOL.. Yeah that is true I suppose. I was just trying to make sense of the statement 'Hypercard reimagined' Nakia Brewer | Technology & Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au ACN 009 342 572 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of John Dixon Sent: Friday, 28 March 2014 9:15 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: RE: OT: PencilCase LOL... but young man, you do know 'hyperTalk' and so 'hyperCard' as you use 'liveCode' ! > Hmm this quite interesting. > > Not knowing Hypercard how is this that re-imagined. I don't see any options > to use Hypercard Syntax as it states that you write code in Javascript... > > > > Nakia Brewer | Technology & Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions > t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: OT: PencilCase
LOL... but young man, you do know 'hyperTalk' and so 'hyperCard' as you use 'liveCode' ! > Hmm this quite interesting. > > Not knowing Hypercard how is this that re-imagined. I don't see any options > to use Hypercard Syntax as it states that you write code in Javascript... > > > > Nakia Brewer | Technology & Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions > t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: OT: PencilCase
Hmm this quite interesting. Not knowing Hypercard how is this that re-imagined. I don't see any options to use Hypercard Syntax as it states that you write code in Javascript... Nakia Brewer | Technology & Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au ACN 009 342 572 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Colin Holgate Sent: Friday, 28 March 2014 3:43 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: OT: PencilCase Had not heard of that. Here's the web page: http://robotsandpencils.com/pencilcase/ The video is worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKORN8URAQ There are some things about it that are a bit like GameSalad, and it does use Javascript for programming, if the standard modules don't foo everything you need. Some of their claims seem dubious. Like how you can instantly publish to the App Store, implying that you don't need a developer account with Apple. Also talk of there being their own app store, which is normally disallowed in the App Store. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: PencilCase
The video I linked to is over 3 minutes long. The language it uses is JavaScript, not Java. My guess about AppDrop is that documents get stored there, and an app shell can download and run the document. As part of the deal you get, you can have a certain number of slots, 5 in the case of the $119 product. That might be enough for say a teacher who wants to hand out up to 5 apps for students to use, without having to publish the apps to the App Store. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: PencilCase
On 27/03/14 18:43, Colin Holgate wrote: Had not heard of that. Here’s the web page: http://robotsandpencils.com/pencilcase/ The video is worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKORN8URAQ There are some things about it that are a bit like GameSalad, and it does use Javascript for programming, if the standard modules don’t foo everything you need. Some of their claims seem dubious. Like how you can instantly publish to the App Store, implying that you don’t need a developer account with Apple. Also talk of there being their own app store, which is normally disallowed in the App Store. ___ Well, I for one, am not going to stump up $119 for something that has no Demo on the basis of what I see on their website. What is an "AppDrop spot" ? Who is going to pay money on the basis of a bunch of promises and a 10 second (10 second) video? Absolutely nothing to tell us what the programming language looks like. If it is Java then it is Java, it is NOT "Hypercard reimagined". There have been dozens of these before; obviously believing that 'Hypercard' is a magic word some 20 years down the road. What RunRev has, and all these wannabees don't is a track record and a code-base built on the bones of Metacard. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: PencilCase
Had not heard of that. Here’s the web page: http://robotsandpencils.com/pencilcase/ The video is worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKORN8URAQ There are some things about it that are a bit like GameSalad, and it does use Javascript for programming, if the standard modules don’t foo everything you need. Some of their claims seem dubious. Like how you can instantly publish to the App Store, implying that you don’t need a developer account with Apple. Also talk of there being their own app store, which is normally disallowed in the App Store. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: PencilCase
Thanks for the link, Colin. I forgot to share that. On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > Had not heard of that. Here’s the web page: > > http://robotsandpencils.com/pencilcase/ > > The video is worth watching: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKORN8URAQ > > There are some things about it that are a bit like GameSalad, and it does use > Javascript for programming, if the standard modules don’t foo everything you > need. > > Some of their claims seem dubious. Like how you can instantly publish to the > App Store, implying that you don’t need a developer account with Apple. Also > talk of there being their own app store, which is normally disallowed in the > App Store. > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
OT: PencilCase
Anybody hear of PencilCase yet? According to their site, it’s “HyperCard reimagined”. This seems to be specifically targeted at mobile apps, so LiveCode still has some major advantages, but this does provide some interesting features. Thoughts? -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
