Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
On Jul 24, 2014, at 1:24 AM, stephen barncard wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Richmond > wrote: > >> In fact, were I to upgrade to 7.0 the functionality would be broken >> (Unicode). >> >> "If it ain't broke, don't upgrade it." >> > > Fine for you but... > > Doesn't anybody get what I'm saying? > > that the audio/video record features were broken and half-developed before. > > and I was hoping against hope that V7 or 6.7 will finally have this stuff > working. I get you for sure. Have been waiting for this feature myself. We do not use the recording aspect QT, but we do need smooth playback for video on all platforms. Our testing shows that the playback is very smooth in early builds. Have not tested recently though. Updated media for Mac at least is the key feature we need out of 6.7. Will solve the very poor playback we are experiencing with OS 10.8 and 10.9. Our user base is letting us know how unhappy they are with the video playback today. Best regards, Mark Talluto CanelaSoftware.com LiveCloud.io ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Richmond wrote: > In fact, were I to upgrade to 7.0 the functionality would be broken > (Unicode). > > "If it ain't broke, don't upgrade it." > Fine for you but... Doesn't anybody get what I'm saying? that the audio/video record features were broken and half-developed before. and I was hoping against hope that V7 or 6.7 will finally have this stuff working. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
On 24/07/14 04:11, stephen barncard wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: That should allow you to make your own test stack, if you have OSX 10.8 or later. I don't want to start over. I have a completed video record application with hours of work that WORKS in previous versions. I want an official test stack to understand the differences in why it is now NOT working and hopefully to see something more in the new foundation that takes us beyond the 2002 Audio visual standards. The same old thing is not what I was hoping for , but at least I'd want to start from a working state. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* So? What's the problem? The simple answer is NOT to upgrade. My Devawriter and my Pismo are made with Livecode 4.5; they work, they do all that I require; so why should I upgrade? In fact, were I to upgrade to 7.0 the functionality would be broken (Unicode). "If it ain't broke, don't upgrade it." Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > That should allow you to make your own test stack, if you have OSX 10.8 or > later. > I don't want to start over. I have a completed video record application with hours of work that WORKS in previous versions. I want an official test stack to understand the differences in why it is now NOT working and hopefully to see something more in the new foundation that takes us beyond the 2002 Audio visual standards. The same old thing is not what I was hoping for , but at least I'd want to start from a working state. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
Then why don't you say so :-p Since it is all still very new, my guess is that there isn't that much to test. However, from the sparse info in the release notes, I conclude that the new player control has most, if not all, features that the old player control has plus two new features (hiliteColor and foreColor). That should allow you to make your own test stack, if you have OSX 10.8 or later. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/23/2014 22:24, stephen barncard wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: Yeah, ok, but that's not related to Muaadh's problem. You want to use AV Foundation on Mac OS X, Muaadh wants to use QuickTime on Windows. My comment was related to the mysterious AV Foundation LACK OF DOCUMENTATION of which there is only rumors and conjecture for documentation. I'm waiting for a test stack. It appears this feature was not tested. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Yeah, ok, but that's not related to Muaadh's problem. You want to use AV > Foundation on Mac OS X, Muaadh wants to use QuickTime on Windows. My comment was related to the mysterious AV Foundation LACK OF DOCUMENTATION of which there is only rumors and conjecture for documentation. I'm waiting for a test stack. It appears this feature was not tested. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
Hi Muaadh (and Klaus), The correct syntax is: create player This is all. It will instantly create a player in the current stack, which can be changed with the properties inspector. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/23/2014 13:42, Muaadh Salih wrote: Mark wrote :"but you can still create one from the message box, as I wrote in the other thread on this subject." from the msg box : choose player tool : the result is instant crash from the msg box :create player tool : player "pointer tool" created Any idea how to create Qt player from the message box ? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
Hi Muaadh, Am 23.07.2014 um 13:42 schrieb Muaadh Salih : > Mark wrote :"but you can still create one from the message box, as I wrote > in the other thread on this subject." > > from the msg box : choose player tool : the result is instant crash > from the > msg box :create player tool : > player "pointer tool" created > > Any idea how to create Qt player from the message box ? not sure what you are asking for, you already created a player object as you wrote: msg box :create player tool : player "pointer tool" created Maybe with an unexpsected name, but a player :-) "(the) tool" is a keyword and has been resolved first so the name of your new player -> pointer tool Use something like this: ## syntax: create OBJECT_TYPE NAME_OF_NEW_OBJECT create player "your fancy name here" > -- > > All the best > > M.Salih Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
QT in Release 7 dp-7
Mark wrote :"but you can still create one from the message box, as I wrote in the other thread on this subject." from the msg box : choose player tool : the result is instant crash from the msg box :create player tool : player "pointer tool" created Any idea how to create Qt player from the message box ? -- All the best M.Salih Principal Teaching Fellow Arabic Project Coordinator Fellow of the Teaching & Learning Academy in Higher Education Department of the Languages and Cultures of the Near and Middle East Faculty of Languages and Cultures School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) Tel : +442078984354 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
Yeah, ok, but that's not related to Muaadh's problem. You want to use AV Foundation on Mac OS X, Muaadh wants to use QuickTime on Windows. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/23/2014 02:51, stephen barncard wrote: I'm trying to get an existing video record stack to work. And on Mac. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
I'm trying to get an existing video record stack to work. And on Mac. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > he crash on Windows is not related to AV Foundation, although it might be > the result of the many changes that were necessary to implement AVF on Mac. > > Dragging the player control from the Tools palette into a stack window > causes an immediate crash on Windows, but you can still create one from the > message box, as I wrote in the other thread on this su > *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
Hi Stephen, The crash on Windows is not related to AV Foundation, although it might be the result of the many changes that were necessary to implement AVF on Mac. Dragging the player control from the Tools palette into a stack window causes an immediate crash on Windows, but you can still create one from the message box, as I wrote in the other thread on this subject. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/22/2014 18:32, stephen barncard wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Muaadh Salih wrote: If so is there an entry in the Dictionary related to the use of AVF foundation Player ? yeah I am trying to get this to work in 7 DP 7. the only clue about "enabling" A/V foundation is the mention that one must set dontuseQT to true as if we were on Windoze. Ben - we really need a test stack . There's some voodo I don't get here... The AV stuff has traditionally been the ugly stepsister of this product since I became a practitioner .. How about a good 'white paper', API, example stack or SOMETHING about this mysterious AV foundation stuff. Right now it's working only partially. I can't submit a bug report on something that is this experimental. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:32 AM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > yeah I am trying to get this to work in 7 DP 7. > MacOS Mavericks *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: QT in Release 7 dp-7
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Muaadh Salih wrote: > If so is there an entry in the Dictionary related to the use of AVF > foundation Player ? > yeah I am trying to get this to work in 7 DP 7. the only clue about "enabling" A/V foundation is the mention that one must set dontuseQT to true as if we were on Windoze. Ben - we really need a test stack . There's some voodo I don't get here... The AV stuff has traditionally been the ugly stepsister of this product since I became a practitioner .. How about a good 'white paper', API, example stack or SOMETHING about this mysterious AV foundation stuff. Right now it's working only partially. I can't submit a bug report on something that is this experimental. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
QT in Release 7 dp-7
In the release notes of dp-7 it was mentioned that QT related feature don't work. I read this as related to MAC OS . It seems that is related to Windows 7 ( there is crash as soon QT icon in Tools menu clicked) . I am right in this ? If so is there an entry in the Dictionary related to the use of AVF foundation Player ? All the best M.Salih Principal Teaching Fellow Arabic Project Coordinator Fellow of the Teaching & Learning Academy in Higher Education Faculty of Languages and Cultures S OAS University of London ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
