R: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin

Dr. Hawkins wrote:


On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

I agree, which is why it benefits no one more than ourselves to test 
our

work with pre-release versions.


Two problems, though:
1) One can *either* stay with 5.5, *or* use any of the new features.
Without maintaining two codebases (impossible with livecode's 
monolithic

file), there is no way to do both.
2) These prereleases just aren't ready for what they're called and
presented as.  I simply cannot believe that anyone who uses the 
debugger

would have signed off on it.


I'd like to raise these concerns with Ben and Kevin at my next meeting.  
It would be very helpful if you could point me to the bug reports that 
describe these issues.


Being in touch with them fairly regularly, I can say with confidence 
that it's not like they're all sitting at the beach drinking Mai Tais.  
Heck, it's Edinburgh - is it even sunny enough to go to the beach? :)


I believe they're every bit as committed as many of the community 
members here in seeing LiveCode take what I feel is its rightful place 
among the world's great programming languages.  For that to happen they 
need to cover a lot of ground, with new features, feature completion, 
and QA.


As with any company, it's always a balancing act with resources.  And 
like most companies that survive beyond their third year (that seems the 
be the threshold at which a majority close up shop) they've done 
reasonably well in this narrow field of developer tools, far beyond any 
xTalk before them, for so long because of a demonstrated willingness to 
learn and grow, just as all of us do with our own business management.


There are many great things on the road ahead, and even in the current 
versions.  But it never hurts to check in along the way to make sure the 
balance is optimal for all concerns.


I'll be happy to review with them the issues you cited once I can find 
them in the report queue.


--
 Richard Gaskin
 LiveCode Community Manager
 rich...@livecode.com

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Re: R: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-11 Thread Richmond

On 11/11/14 23:34, Richard Gaskin wrote:

snip

Being in touch with them fairly regularly, I can say with confidence 
that it's not like they're all sitting at the beach drinking Mai 
Tais.  Heck, it's Edinburgh - is it even sunny enough to go to the 
beach? :)


snip


While I know they are not at the beach, drinking Mai Tais, or even 
glasses of Heavy for that matter, I do resent the comment about Edinburgh!


North of Edinburgh, in St. Andrews, where I have a house, it is often 
sunny enough to go to the beach, and even go swimming:


http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3135428

LOL!

Richmond.


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