Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 175, Issue 42

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Graham Samuel wrote:

> Just a bit of pensioner solidarity: someone also suggested to me (on
> the Apple Discussions site) that I mess with Java on my Mac, via the
> command line, no less. Part of my reply was:
>
>> Thanks for trying to explain it, but running stuff on the command
>> line was what I bought a Mac not to do! Back when dinosaurs ruled
>> the earth I was a geek who could program almost anything etc, and
>> I ate command lines for breakfast, but nowadays I want to be one
>> of "the rest of us".
>
> I think that a respectable minority of LiveCode developers may well
> feel like us.

It's such a different world today than when we were starting out.  Back 
then there was only on consumer GUI OS, and we wrote apps on the same 
system they were expected to run.  Today we need to support multiple 
OSes, and when those are mobile we develop on a completely different OS 
and then squeeze it into the tiny device like building ships in a bottle.


At this point, as someone who's job requires him to sit and type for 
much of the day, four things are keeping me alive:


1. A cup of black coffee with breakfast.
2. A glass of red wine with dinner.
3. Cycling to a nearby park for lunch.
4. The frequent reminder that there are a million things I don't know,
   and I'll need to learn some of them by next week.

Wikipedia has become my favorite book, but I do sometimes almost miss 
the luxury of reading novels.


:)

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 175, Issue 42

[Graham Samuel via use-livecode]

Just a bit of pensioner solidarity: someone also suggested to me (on the Apple 
Discussions site) that I mess with Java on my Mac, via the command line, no 
less. Part of my reply was:

> Thanks for trying to explain it, but running stuff on the command line was 
> what I bought a Mac not to do! Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth I was a 
> geek who could program almost anything etc, and I ate command lines for 
> breakfast, but nowadays I want to be one of "the rest of us".

I think that a respectable minority of LiveCode developers may well feel like 
us.

Graham
Sent from my iPad

> On 25 Apr 2018, at 16:13, Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Like all good programmers, I'm very lazy and would like other people to do my 
> work for me! .. Thanks for the suggestion and I will investigate THAT 
> approach ... although I'm not very thrilled with LC v9 at this point in time. 
>  Also, at 68, I'm literally conforming to the "old dog, new tricks" mentality 
> more and more ... learn Java? ... really?  I even had to look up what "FFI" 
> meant!  Learning enough Bluetooth to use it in an app was a bit of a chore 
> ... Ah well, it is what it is!
> 
> However  ... if anyone has any working related code
> 
> Cheers!
> Doug
> 
> Douglas Ruisaard
> Trilogy Software
> (250) 573-3935
> 
> 
>> 
>> Because LiveCode 9 now supports Java FFI, maybe you can find the source code 
>> in Java how to do this
>> and then implement it?
>> Just an idea.
>> 
>> Goodluck,
>> Erik
>> 
>> On 19/04/18 18:00, "use-livecode on behalf of Douglas Ruisaard via 
>> use-livecode" > boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>Anyone is this community as versed in Android as Monte Goulding is in 
>> iOS?  One of the beauties of
>> LC is its cross-platform ability.  The app I've written in iOS ports just 
>> fine to Android .. at least
>> the user-interactive and data processing parts do.  .. without changing one 
>> line of code (and it's a
>> complex app) ... how slick is that??? Obviously, there is a lack of an 
>> equivalent Android BLE function
>> for communicating to my Arduino which I have working splendidly in iOS.  
>> So... I'm looking for
>> information / assistance on how to implement a "hardwired" connection from 
>> an Arduino to an Android
>> device  (currently have an older- Galaxy Tab 4 running v 5.1.1) ... but if I 
>> need a newer model, newer
>> OS, that's do-able.
>> 
>>I'm hoping (?against hope?) that all I need is the "device name" for the 
>> USB port on the Android
>> and the rest I can handle using the "open device" serial handles in LC.  I 
>> understand that one reason
>> that LC may have and still is avoiding the Android BLE topic is due to the 
>> varieties and variations
>> within the numerous version of the Android OS's.  For me, I just need to be 
>> able to demonstrate a
>> mobile device (iOS or Android) being able to communicate with an Arduino app 
>> via a USB hardwire
>> connection.  I REALLY don't care which OS it is and if I have to use iOS for 
>> BLE and Android for
>> USB... that's just fine!
>> 
>>Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
>> 
>>Cheers
>>Doug
> 
> 
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RE: use-livecode Digest, Vol 175, Issue 42

[Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Like all good programmers, I'm very lazy and would like other people to do my 
work for me! .. Thanks for the suggestion and I will investigate THAT approach 
... although I'm not very thrilled with LC v9 at this point in time.  Also, at 
68, I'm literally conforming to the "old dog, new tricks" mentality more and 
more ... learn Java? ... really?  I even had to look up what "FFI" meant!  
Learning enough Bluetooth to use it in an app was a bit of a chore ... Ah well, 
it is what it is!

However  ... if anyone has any working related code

Cheers!
Doug

Douglas Ruisaard
Trilogy Software
(250) 573-3935


> 
> Because LiveCode 9 now supports Java FFI, maybe you can find the source code 
> in Java how to do this
> and then implement it?
> Just an idea.
> 
> Goodluck,
> Erik
> 
> On 19/04/18 18:00, "use-livecode on behalf of Douglas Ruisaard via 
> use-livecode"  boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Anyone is this community as versed in Android as Monte Goulding is in 
> iOS?  One of the beauties of
> LC is its cross-platform ability.  The app I've written in iOS ports just 
> fine to Android .. at least
> the user-interactive and data processing parts do.  .. without changing one 
> line of code (and it's a
> complex app) ... how slick is that??? Obviously, there is a lack of an 
> equivalent Android BLE function
> for communicating to my Arduino which I have working splendidly in iOS.  
> So... I'm looking for
> information / assistance on how to implement a "hardwired" connection from an 
> Arduino to an Android
> device  (currently have an older- Galaxy Tab 4 running v 5.1.1) ... but if I 
> need a newer model, newer
> OS, that's do-able.
> 
> I'm hoping (?against hope?) that all I need is the "device name" for the 
> USB port on the Android
> and the rest I can handle using the "open device" serial handles in LC.  I 
> understand that one reason
> that LC may have and still is avoiding the Android BLE topic is due to the 
> varieties and variations
> within the numerous version of the Android OS's.  For me, I just need to be 
> able to demonstrate a
> mobile device (iOS or Android) being able to communicate with an Arduino app 
> via a USB hardwire
> connection.  I REALLY don't care which OS it is and if I have to use iOS for 
> BLE and Android for
> USB... that's just fine!
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
> 
> Cheers
> Doug
> 


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