Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
larry wrote: Hello Richard, Thanks for the info, but it seems you missed my point. The Project Browser does NOT tell me BEFORE I group something what is going to be grouped. At least not that I can figure it out. I want something to show me what the grouping will be BEFORE I group it. The Project Browser shows all currently-selected objects. Once you select objects, those are highlighted there before subsequently grouping. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
Hi Richard First the objects on the screen will have the selection highlights appear when you select them to be apart of a group. On the edit menu you can use the Select Grouped Controls and then you can click to add the objects you want to add to the group. If you group the selected items, then deselect the Select Grouped Controls and click on the objects they will be surrounded as a group on the screen with the highlight box. Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/ http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/* Skype: vaughn.clement https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com LogMeIn also avaialble Call on ooVoo at address: vaughnclement or 9282549062 Ph. 928-254-9062 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: larry wrote: Hello Richard, Thanks for the info, but it seems you missed my point. The Project Browser does NOT tell me BEFORE I group something what is going to be grouped. At least not that I can figure it out. I want something to show me what the grouping will be BEFORE I group it. The Project Browser shows all currently-selected objects. Once you select objects, those are highlighted there before subsequently grouping. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
Vaughn Clement wrote: First the objects on the screen will have the selection highlights appear when you select them to be apart of a group. On the edit menu you can use the Select Grouped Controls and then you can click to add the objects you want to add to the group. If you group the selected items, then deselect the Select Grouped Controls and click on the objects they will be surrounded as a group on the screen with the highlight box. Yes, I see the same behavior here, but unless I'm missing something it seems correct, doesn't it? That is, the Project Browser consistently reflects the current selection, no? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
On 3/21/14, 9:52 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The Project Browser shows all currently-selected objects. Once you select objects, those are highlighted there before subsequently grouping. And the Application Browser does the same. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
lcStackBrowser highlights all selected objects in it's display, assuming that the card they are on is expanded. You can also select the control's in lcStackBrowser. However they are selected, the pop up menu action to group them includes a count of how many control's are to be grouped. Pete lcSQL Software On Mar 20, 2014 9:07 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello Richard, Thanks for the info, but it seems you missed my point. The Project Browser does NOT tell me BEFORE I group something what is going to be grouped. At least not that I can figure it out. I want something to show me what the grouping will be BEFORE I group it. Larry P.S. Does lcStackBrowser or Mats Wilstrand's rIDE give me the components BEFORE I group it? - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1 larry wrote: When selecting multiple objects (for grouping) it would be really nice to see a list of those objects instead of the vague Multiple Objects in the Inspector. I would even settle for just the number of objects instead of the almost useless Multiple There have been times when I inadvertently selected 3 objects to group when I was really trying to group just 2 objects. The Inspector has limited space so it may be difficult to display more than a few items in it, but the Project Browser exhibits the behavior you're looking for. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
You've done it again Jacqueline! The simplest answer. I just never realized until you explained that the Application Browser highlights the selected objects. Thanks to all of you who helped me understand. Larry - Original Message - From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1 On 3/21/14, 9:52 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The Project Browser shows all currently-selected objects. Once you select objects, those are highlighted there before subsequently grouping. And the Application Browser does the same. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
Hi All I provided a YouTube video for the app I wrote for the LC Dictionary Pro for LC users. I did not get 1 comment or question on the video. Did anyone view the video? Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/ http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/* Skype: vaughn.clement https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com LogMeIn also avaialble Call on ooVoo at address: vaughnclement or 9282549062 Ph. 928-254-9062 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:23 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: You've done it again Jacqueline! The simplest answer. I just never realized until you explained that the Application Browser highlights the selected objects. Thanks to all of you who helped me understand. Larry - Original Message - From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1 On 3/21/14, 9:52 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The Project Browser shows all currently-selected objects. Once you select objects, those are highlighted there before subsequently grouping. And the Application Browser does the same. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
Hi Vaughn - I've just checked back through this thread and can't find your youtube link - post it again and I'll have a look (and I promise I'll give you feedback...) Dave Vaughn Clement wrote I provided a YouTube video for the app I wrote for the LC Dictionary Pro for LC users. I did not get 1 comment or question on the video. Did anyone view the video? - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rally-the-troops-Part-2-aka-Wish-List-Part-1-tp4677269p4677373.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
Hi Vaughn - just a quick note to say I've done what I said I would and have watched your video and sent you my feedback Kind regards Dave - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rally-the-troops-Part-2-aka-Wish-List-Part-1-tp4677269p4677400.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
larry wrote: When selecting multiple objects (for grouping) it would be really nice to see a list of those objects instead of the vague Multiple Objects in the Inspector. I would even settle for just the number of objects instead of the almost useless Multiple There have been times when I inadvertently selected 3 objects to group when I was really trying to group just 2 objects. The Inspector has limited space so it may be difficult to display more than a few items in it, but the Project Browser exhibits the behavior you're looking for. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
On 20/03/14 15:45, Richard Gaskin wrote: larry wrote: When selecting multiple objects (for grouping) it would be really nice to see a list of those objects instead of the vague Multiple Objects in the Inspector. I would even settle for just the number of objects instead of the almost useless Multiple There have been times when I inadvertently selected 3 objects to group when I was really trying to group just 2 objects. The Inspector has limited space so it may be difficult to display more than a few items in it, but the Project Browser exhibits the behavior you're looking for. At which point . . . . . . we might like to consider whether Application Browser, Project Browser and Inspector isn't overdoing things a bit, and it might be time to consider rolling 2 or 3 of them into one. A while ago somebody round these parts did suggest that maybe the Project Browser wasn't the heir-apparent to replace the Application Browser. Personally, I'd far rather keep the Application Browser as it is and roll the Inspector and the Project Browser up into some sort of Super Inspector. Or, just possibly put some of the Proj. Browser's capabilities over in the App. Browser, and the rest in the Inspector, and then remove the Proj. Browser. However; all I am trying to do here is stimulate a bit of debate now we have had the Proj. Browser for a while. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
It would be remiss of me at this point to not point out that there are at least two alternatives to the ApplicationBrowser/Project Browser/Inspector - my lcStackBrowser and Mats Wilstrand's rIDE. Both of them offer all the capabilities of the above IDE components plus more. The main difference is that rIDE is free and open source, while I, being less altruistic and more money grubbing than Mats, demand payment for lcStackBrowser and also have the audacity to password protect it. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/03/14 15:45, Richard Gaskin wrote: larry wrote: When selecting multiple objects (for grouping) it would be really nice to see a list of those objects instead of the vague Multiple Objects in the Inspector. I would even settle for just the number of objects instead of the almost useless Multiple There have been times when I inadvertently selected 3 objects to group when I was really trying to group just 2 objects. The Inspector has limited space so it may be difficult to display more than a few items in it, but the Project Browser exhibits the behavior you're looking for. At which point . . . . . . we might like to consider whether Application Browser, Project Browser and Inspector isn't overdoing things a bit, and it might be time to consider rolling 2 or 3 of them into one. A while ago somebody round these parts did suggest that maybe the Project Browser wasn't the heir-apparent to replace the Application Browser. Personally, I'd far rather keep the Application Browser as it is and roll the Inspector and the Project Browser up into some sort of Super Inspector. Or, just possibly put some of the Proj. Browser's capabilities over in the App. Browser, and the rest in the Inspector, and then remove the Proj. Browser. However; all I am trying to do here is stimulate a bit of debate now we have had the Proj. Browser for a while. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
Add Geoff Canyon's Navigator and Richard Gaskin's 4Wprops to the list. Pete lcSQL Software On Mar 20, 2014 9:01 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: It would be remiss of me at this point to not point out that there are at least two alternatives to the ApplicationBrowser/Project Browser/Inspector - my lcStackBrowser and Mats Wilstrand's rIDE. Both of them offer all the capabilities of the above IDE components plus more. The main difference is that rIDE is free and open source, while I, being less altruistic and more money grubbing than Mats, demand payment for lcStackBrowser and also have the audacity to password protect it. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/03/14 15:45, Richard Gaskin wrote: larry wrote: When selecting multiple objects (for grouping) it would be really nice to see a list of those objects instead of the vague Multiple Objects in the Inspector. I would even settle for just the number of objects instead of the almost useless Multiple There have been times when I inadvertently selected 3 objects to group when I was really trying to group just 2 objects. The Inspector has limited space so it may be difficult to display more than a few items in it, but the Project Browser exhibits the behavior you're looking for. At which point . . . . . . we might like to consider whether Application Browser, Project Browser and Inspector isn't overdoing things a bit, and it might be time to consider rolling 2 or 3 of them into one. A while ago somebody round these parts did suggest that maybe the Project Browser wasn't the heir-apparent to replace the Application Browser. Personally, I'd far rather keep the Application Browser as it is and roll the Inspector and the Project Browser up into some sort of Super Inspector. Or, just possibly put some of the Proj. Browser's capabilities over in the App. Browser, and the rest in the Inspector, and then remove the Proj. Browser. However; all I am trying to do here is stimulate a bit of debate now we have had the Proj. Browser for a while. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
Peter Haworth pete@... writes: Both of them offer all the capabilities of the above IDE components plus more. The main difference is that rIDE is free and open source, while I, being less altruistic and more money grubbing than Mats, demand payment for lcStackBrowser and also have the audacity to password protect it. Which means, of course, that it won't work with the Community version of LC, but it's otherwise a wonderful tool, well worth the price, and a great addition to my toolbox. -- Happy User ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
2014-03-20 18:01 GMT+01:00 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net: Peter Haworth pete@... writes: Both of them offer all the capabilities of the above IDE components plus more. The main difference is that rIDE is free and open source, while I, being less altruistic and more money grubbing than Mats, demand payment for lcStackBrowser and also have the audacity to password protect it. it's a wonderful tool, well worth the price, and a great addition to my toolbox. +1 Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
Thanks Mark. I'm looking at ways to make it available for Community Edition users, favorite right now is to turn it into a standalone program, either completely so or perhaps communicating with the IDE via a small, unprotected plugin. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote: Peter Haworth pete@... writes: Both of them offer all the capabilities of the above IDE components plus more. The main difference is that rIDE is free and open source, while I, being less altruistic and more money grubbing than Mats, demand payment for lcStackBrowser and also have the audacity to password protect it. Which means, of course, that it won't work with the Community version of LC, but it's otherwise a wonderful tool, well worth the price, and a great addition to my toolbox. -- Happy User ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
Hello Richard, Thanks for the info, but it seems you missed my point. The Project Browser does NOT tell me BEFORE I group something what is going to be grouped. At least not that I can figure it out. I want something to show me what the grouping will be BEFORE I group it. Larry P.S. Does lcStackBrowser or Mats Wilstrand's rIDE give me the components BEFORE I group it? - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1 larry wrote: When selecting multiple objects (for grouping) it would be really nice to see a list of those objects instead of the vague Multiple Objects in the Inspector. I would even settle for just the number of objects instead of the almost useless Multiple There have been times when I inadvertently selected 3 objects to group when I was really trying to group just 2 objects. The Inspector has limited space so it may be difficult to display more than a few items in it, but the Project Browser exhibits the behavior you're looking for. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1
When selecting multiple objects (for grouping) it would be really nice to see a list of those objects instead of the vague Multiple Objects in the Inspector. I would even settle for just the number of objects instead of the almost useless Multiple There have been times when I inadvertently selected 3 objects to group when I was really trying to group just 2 objects. Thank you in advance. Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
