Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
I'm not saying they are perfect, or there never are problems, but they have a really good up-time record and I am very happy with their speed and tech support. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu endern...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, all of you... On-rev is a bit expensive to me and I don't need livecode server right now. I'll think Dreamhost for hosting Name'com for dns is what I need. Working with funny people is important to me, too :) And 10 years without a problem? Man, that's promising… Best, ~ Ender Nafi ~… together, we're smarter …~ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
stephen barncard wrote: I'm not saying they are perfect, or there never are problems, but they have a really good up-time record and I am very happy with their speed and tech support. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu wrote: Thanks, all of you... On-rev is a bit expensive to me and I don't need livecode server right now. I'll think Dreamhost for hosting Name'com for dns is what I need. Working with funny people is important to me, too :) And 10 years without a problem? Man, that's promising… I've used Dreamhost since 2007 and for most of these years I've been very happy. There is one issue that has cropped up recently, however, and one would need to keep this in mind when choosing DH (as well as some other hosting companies with similar configurations): Like most hosting companies, from time to time DH will update their infrastructure. Last year they began updating their servers to systems that use an XFS file system with 64-bit inodes. Without getting into what inodes are and how they work, the short form is that some file I/O routines, like getting a list of files or reading a file using put url..., rely on inode information. With LiveCode being 32-bit, the structure returned from calls to the system to obtain such info includes 64-bit values, which are too large for the current version of liveocde-server to handle, resulting in an error. Please note that this issue isn't limited to Dreamhost. XFS is measurably more efficient than EXT3, so many hosting companies are migrating to it. When they do, they usually use 64-bit inodes for better support on large drives, so we can expect more systems to be affected by this going forward. This issue was reported here: LiveCode Server incompatible with file systems using 64-bit inodes http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10673 It's marked as fixed, and indeed I was able to verify the fix with a test build of the new engine on my DH account. But that version of the livecode-server engine isn't yet shipping, and the version currently available isn't compatible with DH's new configuration. Some accounts, like apparently Stephen's, are still on the older system and have not yet been migrated. But the DH newsletter makes it clear that they intend to complete their migration within the coming months, and new accounts will likely go on the newer systems. It may well be that the new version of livecode-server with this fix will be available before DH completes their migration process. Just the same, with so many of my domains there dependent on livecode-server, I've had to start shopping for alternatives. After much evaluation I've begun using InterServer.com, and have moved about half my domains there, with most of the rest slated for migration over the coming months. In addition to shared hosting options roughly on par with Dreamhost's, InterServer also offers the cheapest flexible VPS systems I've seen, starting at just $6/mo, which I've been enjoying as a test bed for more complex apps where I need full control over the system. Moreover, both pre-sale and post-sale technical support questions have all been answered by InterServer staff in under an hour, even on weekends. Suffice to say, I'm impressed. They're not as large as DH, but for me that's been an advantage, being able to submit requests that get acted on very quickly. I'm still keeping my DH account, and will continue to use it for some of my less time-sensitive domains where I can afford to wait for the new livecode-server build. But InterServer has been a very good Plan B for me, with livecode-server working well on both its shared hosting and VPS systems. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
Hi Ender Nafi, If you don't need LiveCode server and if a gigabyte of server space is sufficient, then I can offer you a fully featured web hosting service for 11 euro per year. Contact me off-list if you're interested. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 3/28/2013 06:53, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu wrote: Thanks, all of you... On-rev is a bit expensive to me and I don't need livecode server right now. I'll think Dreamhost for hosting Name'com for dns is what I need. Working with funny people is important to me, too :) And 10 years without a problem? Man, that's promising… Best, ~ Ender Nafi ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
There are so many options :) Richard's advice of interserver'com seems good too, especially replies for support in under an hour… Mark, I'll have a couple of questions for you; sending an off-list email shortly. ~ Ender Nafi ~… together, we're smarter …~ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
On 3/28/13 12:53 AM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu wrote: Thanks, all of you... On-rev is a bit expensive to me and I don't need livecode server right now. I'll think Dreamhost for hosting Name'com for dns is what I need. I like JaguarPC, I've been with them for over 10 years. They offer the same features as Dreamhost pretty much. They just implemented free CloudFlare services to all their clients (speed and security) and there are more services available than I can list. They have just replaced all their servers with very fast machines, uptime is 99+%, ticket support averages under 1 hour response time 24/7, there is unlimited bandwidth and storage. I think Dreamhost and JaguarPC are the two of the leading hosting companies these days and you probably won't go wrong with either of them. DNS doesn't have to be a separate purchase, you can use Jaguar's DNS. I used to use a third-party DNS provider but I changed back to Jaguar's free DNS when I saw how reliable they were. http://www.jaguarpc.com -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
On 29/03/2013, at 4:22 AM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu endern...@gmail.com wrote: There are so many options :) Richard's advice of interserver'com seems good too, especially replies for support in under an hour… Edner if you want to have full control and a completely scalable platform and a really good price then take a look at Amazon's EC2. Their free tier will give you free hosting for a year. Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
linksky'com? another alternative? my head hurts :)) ~ Ender Nafi ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
I was worried about saturating this guy with too many choices! On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu endern...@gmail.comwrote: linksky'com? another alternative? my head hurts :)) ~ Ender Nafi ___ Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
Hi Ender, they are offering a hosting service at http://www.on-rev.com You could go with any domain registrar. I am using GoDaddy and a german registrar. Advantage of the On-Rev hosting is that the livecode-server engine is preinstalled. Regards, Matthias Am 27.03.2013 um 15:15 schrieb Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu endern...@gmail.com: Hi, Does RunRev offer a Domain Hosting service? I vaguely recall a post in this list with a lot of praise to such a service of RunRev… If there is, do you recommend it? Or, could you advise any other services? The main factor for me is reliability. Do you suggest keeping the domains and hostings in different companies? For example, hostings on the godaddy'com and domains on the register'com? Thank you… ~ Ender Nafi ~… together, we're smarter …~ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu endern...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Does RunRev offer a Domain Hosting service? I vaguely recall a post in this list with a lot of praise to such a service of RunRev… If there is, do you recommend it? Or, could you advise any other services? The main factor for me is reliability. Do you suggest keeping the domains and hostings in different companies? For example, hostings on the godaddy'com and domains on the register'com? It really depends on what type of hosting you need. Price, speed, live support, on-line controls… BlueHost has been a good solution for price, good speed, uptime, and ease of use. MediaTemple.net has amazing speed and throughput, but costs a bit more. For your DNS needs, I highly suggest name.com. They are very affordable, have great online controls, and are very affordable. Best regards, Mark Talluto canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Domain Hosting Service Advice
I prefer Dreamhost for all my hosting needs. I've had a 'code monster' account for the last 10 years. I like this company because of their superior support, custom code and control panel, high-quality serving, and the fact that they had stayed independent rather than selling out to a bigger outfit. I was also able to enable my livecode server instance here - after some initial help from Andre'. They are also very funny people ( important to me ). Download/upload speeds aren't throttled. A personal survey showed Dreamhost's speeds to be better than the average. (.58 gig download - comcast cable connection with speedburst) Amazon A3 20 min 475kb/s Dreamhost 23 min 368kb/s On-Rev30 min 260-326 kbs So far they haven't bugged me EVER about bandwidth or storage I'm at about 20 gigs with 10 domains, unlimited email, etc. I am sure that TwoCows or GoDaddy sites are cheaper. But what is their uptime? What are the limits? Can one install livecode there? Is the support any good? Can you get shell / SSH ? I am pretty particular about hosts... Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
