Re: Desktop visual effect
Hi Pete, Am 18.01.2013 um 20:08 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com: I'm probably missing something obvious but I can't get the visual effect command to do anything. I issue the visual effect command right before opening a stack, hoping that the stack would appear according to the chosen effect, but no matter which effect I choose, the stack appears without the visual effect Yep, visual effects do not work with stacks! To fake a dissolve effect, use a repeat loop to set the blendlevel instead. Not tested, but the idea sounds doable :-) Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Desktop visual effect
OK, thanks Klaus. Will it work if I go to a card in the stack instead of the stack? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote: Hi Pete, Am 18.01.2013 um 20:08 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com: I'm probably missing something obvious but I can't get the visual effect command to do anything. I issue the visual effect command right before opening a stack, hoping that the stack would appear according to the chosen effect, but no matter which effect I choose, the stack appears without the visual effect Yep, visual effects do not work with stacks! To fake a dissolve effect, use a repeat loop to set the blendlevel instead. Not tested, but the idea sounds doable :-) Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Desktop visual effect
Stacks don't appear on the desktop with visual effects -- these are used when navigating between cards, or stacks within an already open stack. One simulated effect I've done is to create a loop that progressively sets the blendLevel of a stack, which results in fading the stack in (or out of) the desktop. On the Mac side, there is (was?) a Core image effects sampler that allows you to use system level transitions between images. I could swear I remember seeing Kevin Miller demonstrate the use of Core effects applied to the reveal of a stack at a RunRev conference. But when asking about it much later, nobody could recall if (or how) it was done, so maybe it was just a dream (even if this worked it would be Mac only). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 1/18/13 11:08 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I'm probably missing something obvious but I can't get the visual effect command to do anything. I issue the visual effect command right before opening a stack, hoping that the stack would appear according to the chosen effect, but no matter which effect I choose, the stack appears without the visual effect Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Desktop visual effect
Thanks Scott. I guess I'll have a go at the blendlevel fade trick. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote: Stacks don't appear on the desktop with visual effects -- these are used when navigating between cards, or stacks within an already open stack. One simulated effect I've done is to create a loop that progressively sets the blendLevel of a stack, which results in fading the stack in (or out of) the desktop. On the Mac side, there is (was?) a Core image effects sampler that allows you to use system level transitions between images. I could swear I remember seeing Kevin Miller demonstrate the use of Core effects applied to the reveal of a stack at a RunRev conference. But when asking about it much later, nobody could recall if (or how) it was done, so maybe it was just a dream (even if this worked it would be Mac only). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 1/18/13 11:08 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I'm probably missing something obvious but I can't get the visual effect command to do anything. I issue the visual effect command right before opening a stack, hoping that the stack would appear according to the chosen effect, but no matter which effect I choose, the stack appears without the visual effect Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Desktop visual effect
Hi Pete, Peter Haworth wrote Thanks Scott. I guess I'll have a go at the blendlevel fade trick. Please, check this source code in a stack and the executable Demo posted by Chipp Walter in this mail list. Visit his webpage and look for the following text: http://www2.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm Splash Screen Stack This stack creates a very interesting splash screen effect -- sorta like Kai Krause's MetaCreations programs used to do. It's actually quite simple, but the effect is astounding. All the code is in the stack script. Notice the translucent butterfly wings. Feel free to use as you like. The executable is Windows only, but the effect should work on Macs as well (use the .rev stack) Download Windows Executable (.zip) Splash Screen Source Code One of the interesting things about this Splash Screen window is the way it fades on. You can download the source code by clicking the link button below. Have a nice weekend! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Desktop-visual-effect-tp4659122p4659135.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Desktop visual effect
Thanks Alejandro, I'll take a look. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Pete, Peter Haworth wrote Thanks Scott. I guess I'll have a go at the blendlevel fade trick. Please, check this source code in a stack and the executable Demo posted by Chipp Walter in this mail list. Visit his webpage and look for the following text: http://www2.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm Splash Screen Stack This stack creates a very interesting splash screen effect -- sorta like Kai Krause's MetaCreations programs used to do. It's actually quite simple, but the effect is astounding. All the code is in the stack script. Notice the translucent butterfly wings. Feel free to use as you like. The executable is Windows only, but the effect should work on Macs as well (use the .rev stack) Download Windows Executable (.zip) Splash Screen Source Code One of the interesting things about this Splash Screen window is the way it fades on. You can download the source code by clicking the link button below. Have a nice weekend! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Desktop-visual-effect-tp4659122p4659135.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Desktop visual effect
Alejandro: One issue with the stack you referenced is the technique relies on a screen capture of the desktop, which is no longer necessary since LiveCode can create actual translucent windows. Any PNG image that contains transparency will work, simply by setting the windowShape of the stack to the id of the source image. Chipp's stack was great for the time it was developed, but I'm sure he would agree there are easier ways to create the same effect these days :-) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 1/18/13 12:27 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pete, Peter Haworth wrote Thanks Scott. I guess I'll have a go at the blendlevel fade trick. Please, check this source code in a stack and the executable Demo posted by Chipp Walter in this mail list. Visit his webpage and look for the following text: http://www2.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm Splash Screen Stack This stack creates a very interesting splash screen effect -- sorta like Kai Krause's MetaCreations programs used to do. It's actually quite simple, but the effect is astounding. All the code is in the stack script. Notice the translucent butterfly wings. Feel free to use as you like. The executable is Windows only, but the effect should work on Macs as well (use the .rev stack) Download Windows Executable (.zip) Splash Screen Source Code One of the interesting things about this Splash Screen window is the way it fades on. You can download the source code by clicking the link button below. Have a nice weekend! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Desktop-visual-effect-tp465 9122p4659135.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Desktop visual effect
You have strange dreams. In mine, scantily clad beautiful women seem to magically show up. But hey, to each his own! ;-) Bob On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: But when asking about it much later, nobody could recall if (or how) it was done, so maybe it was just a dream (even if this worked it would be Mac only). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Desktop visual effect
Folks, Thanks for all the suggestions. I have found that I can get the effect I want by using a hidden group and show/hide it when appropriate with the visual effects. Didn't have to use a stack at all. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote: Alejandro: One issue with the stack you referenced is the technique relies on a screen capture of the desktop, which is no longer necessary since LiveCode can create actual translucent windows. Any PNG image that contains transparency will work, simply by setting the windowShape of the stack to the id of the source image. Chipp's stack was great for the time it was developed, but I'm sure he would agree there are easier ways to create the same effect these days :-) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 1/18/13 12:27 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pete, Peter Haworth wrote Thanks Scott. I guess I'll have a go at the blendlevel fade trick. Please, check this source code in a stack and the executable Demo posted by Chipp Walter in this mail list. Visit his webpage and look for the following text: http://www2.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm Splash Screen Stack This stack creates a very interesting splash screen effect -- sorta like Kai Krause's MetaCreations programs used to do. It's actually quite simple, but the effect is astounding. All the code is in the stack script. Notice the translucent butterfly wings. Feel free to use as you like. The executable is Windows only, but the effect should work on Macs as well (use the .rev stack) Download Windows Executable (.zip) Splash Screen Source Code One of the interesting things about this Splash Screen window is the way it fades on. You can download the source code by clicking the link button below. Have a nice weekend! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Desktop-visual-effect-tp465 9122p4659135.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Desktop visual effect
On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: One simulated effect I've done is to create a loop that progressively sets the blendLevel of a stack, which results in fading the stack in (or out of) the desktop. Here's from the script of the first card of a splash stack that I use: on openstack fadeIn end openstack on closeStack fadeOut end closeStack on fadeIn repeat with n = 100 down to 0 set the blendlevel of this stack to n wait 7 millisecs end repeat pass openstack end fadeIn on fadeOut unlock screen repeat with n = 0 to 100 set the blendlevel of this stack to n wait 7 millisecs end repeat set the blendlevel of this stack to 100 end fadeOut Adjust the wait period ad lib. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
