Re: Hey-Ho and Off We Go with HTML5

[Matt Maier]

You could try out the free tier of services like http://www.formmail.com/
or HTTP://www.SE dgrid.com
On Mar 2, 2016 00:30, "RM"  wrote:

>
>
> On 2.03.2016 10:18, Mark Waddingham wrote:
>
>> On 2016-03-02 09:01, RM wrote:
>>
>>> Preferably this would be WITHOUT the message having to go via the
>>> client's e-mail system as:
>>>
>>> 1.  The message should be anonymous.
>>>
>>> 2.  The end-user may have no e-mail client configured.
>>>
>>
>> Okay so there in terms of what you will be able to do in this regard with
>> the HTML5 engine there are two feasible options as far as I can see:
>>
>> 1) "launch url" with a 'mailto:' URL. This would invoke the locally
>> configured email client (and is what revMail does). This won't (I believe)
>> work in the HTML5 engine yet because we haven't hooked it up (to my
>> knowledge at least). I *think* this would be possible - Peter could perhaps
>> comment. (It would ask the hosting web-browser to launch the url).
>>
>> 2) Put a web-service on a server and get that to send the email. This
>> requires no client-side email configuration but does require configuring a
>> web-service to do it. Indeed, there might be third party services out there
>> which could be used. Again, Peter would have to comment on the feasibility
>> of whether this would work in the HTML5 engine at the moment since I cannot
>> recall off the top of my head which (if any) URL primitives we have yet
>> implemented.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
> Thank you very much for a reply that is a statement of the /status quo/ as
> regards e-mailing from Livecode at the moment. This is extremely helpful as
> it gives me an idea of what I /can/ and /cannot/
> do at the moment in this regard.
>
> What I would like to do, ideally, is set up a chart of some sort with text
> entry fields for students to fill in
> online, then click a 'submit' button that will send the field entries as a
> list to an e-mail address.
>
> As the current revMail capabilities are not /currently/ implemented in the
> HTML5 engine that will have
> to wait.
>
> Am I right in understanding that, theoretically a least, the goal is to
> implement all the capabilities
> of Livecode into the HTML5 engine?
>
> Richmond.
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Re: Hey-Ho and Off We Go with HTML5

[Mark Waddingham]

On 2016-03-02 09:30, RM wrote:

Am I right in understanding that, theoretically a least, the goal is
to implement all the capabilities
of Livecode into the HTML5 engine?


The goal is to implement (over time) as many LiveCode capabilities which 
are possible to implement in HTML5 it definitely won't be all because 
that simply isn't possible.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: Hey-Ho and Off We Go with HTML5

[RM]

On 2.03.2016 10:18, Mark Waddingham wrote:

On 2016-03-02 09:01, RM wrote:

Preferably this would be WITHOUT the message having to go via the
client's e-mail system as:

1.  The message should be anonymous.

2.  The end-user may have no e-mail client configured.


Okay so there in terms of what you will be able to do in this regard 
with the HTML5 engine there are two feasible options as far as I can see:


1) "launch url" with a 'mailto:' URL. This would invoke the locally 
configured email client (and is what revMail does). This won't (I 
believe) work in the HTML5 engine yet because we haven't hooked it up 
(to my knowledge at least). I *think* this would be possible - Peter 
could perhaps comment. (It would ask the hosting web-browser to launch 
the url).


2) Put a web-service on a server and get that to send the email. This 
requires no client-side email configuration but does require 
configuring a web-service to do it. Indeed, there might be third party 
services out there which could be used. Again, Peter would have to 
comment on the feasibility of whether this would work in the HTML5 
engine at the moment since I cannot recall off the top of my head 
which (if any) URL primitives we have yet implemented.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.



Thank you very much for a reply that is a statement of the /status quo/ 
as regards e-mailing from Livecode at the moment. This is extremely 
helpful as it gives me an idea of what I /can/ and /cannot/

do at the moment in this regard.

What I would like to do, ideally, is set up a chart of some sort with 
text entry fields for students to fill in
online, then click a 'submit' button that will send the field entries as 
a list to an e-mail address.


As the current revMail capabilities are not /currently/ implemented in 
the HTML5 engine that will have

to wait.

Am I right in understanding that, theoretically a least, the goal is to 
implement all the capabilities

of Livecode into the HTML5 engine?

Richmond.
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Re: Hey-Ho and Off We Go with HTML5

[Mark Waddingham]

On 2016-03-02 09:01, RM wrote:

Preferably this would be WITHOUT the message having to go via the
client's e-mail system as:

1.  The message should be anonymous.

2.  The end-user may have no e-mail client configured.


Okay so there in terms of what you will be able to do in this regard 
with the HTML5 engine there are two feasible options as far as I can 
see:


1) "launch url" with a 'mailto:' URL. This would invoke the locally 
configured email client (and is what revMail does). This won't (I 
believe) work in the HTML5 engine yet because we haven't hooked it up 
(to my knowledge at least). I *think* this would be possible - Peter 
could perhaps comment. (It would ask the hosting web-browser to launch 
the url).


2) Put a web-service on a server and get that to send the email. This 
requires no client-side email configuration but does require configuring 
a web-service to do it. Indeed, there might be third party services out 
there which could be used. Again, Peter would have to comment on the 
feasibility of whether this would work in the HTML5 engine at the moment 
since I cannot recall off the top of my head which (if any) URL 
primitives we have yet implemented.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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LiveCode: Everyone can create apps

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Re: Hey-Ho and Off We Go with HTML5

[RM]

On 29.02.2016 22:19, RM wrote:



On 29.02.2016 22:13, RM wrote:



On 29.02.2016 21:29, RM wrote:

So:

I made a stack with a button and 2 fields in LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 and 
a spot of
scripting in the button, and exported the thing as an HTML5 
standalone, then opened
the generated page in Firefox, and (apart from the slightly squiffy 
aesthetics) the thing

looked and behaved exactly like the original stack.

Rocks!

So . . . . I am getting all revved-up to generate an HTML page for 
University students of my
wife's to do a gap-fill exercise, AND, having clicked on a "SUBMIT" 
button  to have the results

put into a merry text-file and e-mailed to my wife.

AND the question is: can anybody tell me how to send a text file 
generated in Livecode

to an email address?

Richmond.


So: I popped this in a button of my stack:

on mouseUp
   revMail "z...@gmail.com", "q...@gmail.com", "Test", "Message sent 
from LiveCode-HTML5"

end mouseUp

From the stack that button opened my email client (Thunderbird) and 
filled in all the required boxes.


Absolutely fantastic!!!

BUT, from the same stuck, once hived-off as an HTML5 thing the button 
didn't work.


Richmond.


The next question, inevitably, is what will happen if one's end-user 
accesses their e-mail via
a web-browser and has no configured e-mail client installed on their 
computer?


R.


I have just run that stack on a computer at my school which has no 
e-mail client configured:


clicking the button resulted in absolutely nothing.

What I would love is a way for a way for a stack to "phone home" when an 
end-user clicks on a button


[Quick clarification here: I don't mean "phone home" in a sneaky, 
underhand sort of way which some software does, but send an e-mail 
message to some e-mail address when an end-user clicks on a button and 
asks them if they object to a message being sent]


Preferably this would be WITHOUT the message having to go via the 
client's e-mail system as:


1.  The message should be anonymous.

2.  The end-user may have no e-mail client configured.

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=26704

Richmond.

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Re: Hey-Ho and Off We Go with HTML5

[RM]

On 29.02.2016 22:13, RM wrote:



On 29.02.2016 21:29, RM wrote:

So:

I made a stack with a button and 2 fields in LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 and a 
spot of
scripting in the button, and exported the thing as an HTML5 
standalone, then opened
the generated page in Firefox, and (apart from the slightly squiffy 
aesthetics) the thing

looked and behaved exactly like the original stack.

Rocks!

So . . . . I am getting all revved-up to generate an HTML page for 
University students of my
wife's to do a gap-fill exercise, AND, having clicked on a "SUBMIT" 
button  to have the results

put into a merry text-file and e-mailed to my wife.

AND the question is: can anybody tell me how to send a text file 
generated in Livecode

to an email address?

Richmond.


So: I popped this in a button of my stack:

on mouseUp
   revMail "z...@gmail.com", "q...@gmail.com", "Test", "Message sent 
from LiveCode-HTML5"

end mouseUp

From the stack that button opened my email client (Thunderbird) and 
filled in all the required boxes.


Absolutely fantastic!!!

BUT, from the same stuck, once hived-off as an HTML5 thing the button 
didn't work.


Richmond.


The next question, inevitably, is what will happen if one's end-user 
accesses their e-mail via
a web-browser and has no configured e-mail client installed on their 
computer?


R.

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Re: Hey-Ho and Off We Go with HTML5

[RM]

On 29.02.2016 21:29, RM wrote:

So:

I made a stack with a button and 2 fields in LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 and a 
spot of
scripting in the button, and exported the thing as an HTML5 
standalone, then opened
the generated page in Firefox, and (apart from the slightly squiffy 
aesthetics) the thing

looked and behaved exactly like the original stack.

Rocks!

So . . . . I am getting all revved-up to generate an HTML page for 
University students of my
wife's to do a gap-fill exercise, AND, having clicked on a "SUBMIT" 
button  to have the results

put into a merry text-file and e-mailed to my wife.

AND the question is: can anybody tell me how to send a text file 
generated in Livecode

to an email address?

Richmond.


So: I popped this in a button of my stack:

on mouseUp
   revMail "z...@gmail.com", "q...@gmail.com", "Test", "Message sent from 
LiveCode-HTML5"

end mouseUp

From the stack that button opened my email client (Thunderbird) and 
filled in all the required boxes.


Absolutely fantastic!!!

BUT, from the same stuck, once hived-off as an HTML5 thing the button 
didn't work.


Richmond.

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