Re: What happened to my message box ?

2012-11-15 Thread Mike Bonner
Same thing happened to me (random hiccup) I just increased the window size
a little till the divider showed. However now on 5.5.3 it seems that every
time I switch to the multiline pane the divider defaults to the bottom
where it is barely otu of view and I have to do it again.   Kinda  a pain
in the tookus.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:


 When I open the msg box, and then click on multi-line, I used to get a
 window with 2 panes
  - top one to enter a script
  - lower one with its output.

 But now it gives me only a single pane (the output one) - there's nowhere
 to enter the script.

 What have I done ? :-)
 And more importantly, how can I undo it ?

 Thanks
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Re: What happened to my message box ?

2012-11-15 Thread Mike Bonner
Actually its every time I restart lc it resets to slightly out of view.
*sigh* Either way still an annoyance.



On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Same thing happened to me (random hiccup) I just increased the window size
 a little till the divider showed. However now on 5.5.3 it seems that every
 time I switch to the multiline pane the divider defaults to the bottom
 where it is barely otu of view and I have to do it again.   Kinda  a pain
 in the tookus.


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:


 When I open the msg box, and then click on multi-line, I used to get a
 window with 2 panes
  - top one to enter a script
  - lower one with its output.

 But now it gives me only a single pane (the output one) - there's nowhere
 to enter the script.

 What have I done ? :-)
 And more importantly, how can I undo it ?

 Thanks
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Re: What happened to my message box ?

2012-11-15 Thread Robert Sneidar
Ditto here. Very annoying. Not related to plugins as I have removed plugins on 
several occasions to test other issues, and the problem persists. I think it's 
a preferences bug. 

Bob


On Nov 15, 2012, at 3:47 AM, Mike Bonner wrote:

 Actually its every time I restart lc it resets to slightly out of view.
 *sigh* Either way still an annoyance.
 
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Same thing happened to me (random hiccup) I just increased the window size
 a little till the divider showed. However now on 5.5.3 it seems that every
 time I switch to the multiline pane the divider defaults to the bottom
 where it is barely otu of view and I have to do it again.   Kinda  a pain
 in the tookus.
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:
 
 
 When I open the msg box, and then click on multi-line, I used to get a
 window with 2 panes
 - top one to enter a script
 - lower one with its output.
 
 But now it gives me only a single pane (the output one) - there's nowhere
 to enter the script.
 
 What have I done ? :-)
 And more importantly, how can I undo it ?
 
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Re: What happened to my message box ?

2012-11-15 Thread Alex Tweedly

Thanks Mike.

I thought I had tried that - but I did have just a few more pixels left 
at the bottom of the screen, and including them in the window let me 
grab the divider.


Thanks!
-- Alex.

On 15/11/2012 13:45, Mike Bonner wrote:

Same thing happened to me (random hiccup) I just increased the window size
a little till the divider showed. However now on 5.5.3 it seems that every
time I switch to the multiline pane the divider defaults to the bottom
where it is barely otu of view and I have to do it again.   Kinda  a pain
in the tookus.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Alex Tweedlya...@tweedly.net  wrote:


When I open the msg box, and then click on multi-line, I used to get a
window with 2 panes
  - top one to enter a script
  - lower one with its output.

But now it gives me only a single pane (the output one) - there's nowhere
to enter the script.

What have I done ? :-)
And more importantly, how can I undo it ?

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-07-04 Thread Howard Bornstein
Yes. It caused me to re-read the fix that was first mention by Ken Ray and
then later in the thread you referenced. I realized that I had only added
this line to the revDebuggerValidGlobalNames function:

filter tGlobalsRaw without *-*

I hadn't added this other one for some reason: filter tGlobalsRaw without
*/*

When I plugged that in also, the message box problem went away and it now
works properly.

Thanks to everyone for all their suggestions and help and sorry I was so
dense as to overlook the solution when it was first presented.


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 Does this help ?



 http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Cannot-use-Message-Box-td3505245.html

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-07-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
Lol, no, no, the message stack is there. I can use the other panes of it,
such as the global variables, the pending messages, etc. It's only the
single and multi-line messages sections that don't work. They are visible
and I can enter commands into the message field. However, it simply doesn't
respond to Return or Enter to actually execute the messages for some weird
reason.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:11 AM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 Howard...
 could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a
 set the loc of stack 'message' to 100,100  ??

 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Stephen Barncard sbarn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a
  set the loc of stack message to 100,100  ??
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone in the cube zone
 
 
  On Jun 28, 2012, at 17:17, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com
  wrote:
 
   Craig's trick has never worked for me. Yes, I deleted all the prefs and
   reinstalled LC. That didn't help. Messages are turned on but that was a
   good thing to check.
  
   I'm limping along with my self-rolled message box so I'm able to move
   forward at this point. Thanks for the reply.
  
   On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:02 PM, J. Landman Gay
   jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:
  
   On 6/27/12 1:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
  
   Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit
 return.
   Nothing.
  
  
   The only other person I know of who had this problem was Craig
 (DunbarX)
   and I think upgrading eventually fixed it. If I remember right,
 clicking
   the lower pane of the message box would activate it again, and allow
  typing
   into the upper pane. It was odd behavior.
  
   I've not followed all this, so I can't remember if you tried deleting
   prefs and restarting. If so, maybe a reinstall would fix it. I seem to
   recall Craig did that and it didn't work, but who knows.
  
   One thing that catches me sometimes is that the Messages icon is
 turned
  on
   (messages are blocked). If so, the message box stops working. Check
  that.
  
  
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-07-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have to conclude that there is something in your OS, or some utility that is 
preventing the keypress events from getting to the Livecode engine. What 
happens when you put this in a card script and then hit the return key:

on rawKeyDown pKey
  put pKey
  pass rawKeyDown
end rawKeyDown

You should get 65293 for the returnKey and 65421 for the enterKey. 

Bob


On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

 Lol, no, no, the message stack is there. I can use the other panes of it,
 such as the global variables, the pending messages, etc. It's only the
 single and multi-line messages sections that don't work. They are visible
 and I can enter commands into the message field. However, it simply doesn't
 respond to Return or Enter to actually execute the messages for some weird
 reason.
 
 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:11 AM, stephen barncard 
 stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:
 
 Howard...
 could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a
 set the loc of stack 'message' to 100,100  ??
 
 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Stephen Barncard sbarn...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a
 set the loc of stack message to 100,100  ??
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone in the cube zone
 
 
 On Jun 28, 2012, at 17:17, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com
 wrote:
 
 Craig's trick has never worked for me. Yes, I deleted all the prefs and
 reinstalled LC. That didn't help. Messages are turned on but that was a
 good thing to check.
 
 I'm limping along with my self-rolled message box so I'm able to move
 forward at this point. Thanks for the reply.
 
 On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:02 PM, J. Landman Gay
 jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:
 
 On 6/27/12 1:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
 
 Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit
 return.
 Nothing.
 
 
 The only other person I know of who had this problem was Craig
 (DunbarX)
 and I think upgrading eventually fixed it. If I remember right,
 clicking
 the lower pane of the message box would activate it again, and allow
 typing
 into the upper pane. It was odd behavior.
 
 I've not followed all this, so I can't remember if you tried deleting
 prefs and restarting. If so, maybe a reinstall would fix it. I seem to
 recall Craig did that and it didn't work, but who knows.
 
 One thing that catches me sometimes is that the Messages icon is
 turned
 on
 (messages are blocked). If so, the message box stops working. Check
 that.
 
 
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-07-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
When I enter this script into the card handler of a card I do in fact get
those values for Return and Enter. Apparently this problem is within the
Message Box stack itself, and then only within the section that deals with
the message field. I've tried using the debugger to trap the execution of
the message field (it has a ReturnInField handler) but the debugger never
engages, even when I set a hard breakpoint (?!), so I haven't been able to
get any further in figuring out what the problem is. Hence, I've built my
own message box in order to get any work done. Weird, huh?

Any other ideas? I appreciate your help.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 I have to conclude that there is something in your OS, or some utility
 that is preventing the keypress events from getting to the Livecode engine.
 What happens when you put this in a card script and then hit the return key:

 on rawKeyDown pKey
   put pKey
   pass rawKeyDown
 end rawKeyDown

 You should get 65293 for the returnKey and 65421 for the enterKey.

 Bob


 On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

  Lol, no, no, the message stack is there. I can use the other panes of it,
  such as the global variables, the pending messages, etc. It's only the
  single and multi-line messages sections that don't work. They are visible
  and I can enter commands into the message field. However, it simply
 doesn't
  respond to Return or Enter to actually execute the messages for some
 weird
  reason.
 
  On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:11 AM, stephen barncard 
  stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:
 
  Howard...
  could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a
  set the loc of stack 'message' to 100,100  ??
 
  On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Stephen Barncard sbarn...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a
  set the loc of stack message to 100,100  ??
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone in the cube zone
 
 
  On Jun 28, 2012, at 17:17, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com
  wrote:
 
  Craig's trick has never worked for me. Yes, I deleted all the prefs
 and
  reinstalled LC. That didn't help. Messages are turned on but that was
 a
  good thing to check.
 
  I'm limping along with my self-rolled message box so I'm able to move
  forward at this point. Thanks for the reply.
 
  On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:02 PM, J. Landman Gay
  jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:
 
  On 6/27/12 1:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
 
  Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit
  return.
  Nothing.
 
 
  The only other person I know of who had this problem was Craig
  (DunbarX)
  and I think upgrading eventually fixed it. If I remember right,
  clicking
  the lower pane of the message box would activate it again, and allow
  typing
  into the upper pane. It was odd behavior.
 
  I've not followed all this, so I can't remember if you tried deleting
  prefs and restarting. If so, maybe a reinstall would fix it. I seem
 to
  recall Craig did that and it didn't work, but who knows.
 
  One thing that catches me sometimes is that the Messages icon is
  turned
  on
  (messages are blocked). If so, the message box stops working. Check
  that.
 
 
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-07-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Howard-

Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:11:36 AM, you wrote:

 Any other ideas? I appreciate your help.

The debugger has a trap to ignore errors in IDE stacks in order to
prevent endless loops. If you need to debug the message box, issue the
following commands. Normally I would say do this in the message box,
but...

global gRevDevelopment
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-07-03 Thread AcidJazz
Check this thread in the runrev forum for another possible cause of the
problem, and a solution.   

http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12070

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-07-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
Hi Mark,

I remember when this issue came up (I too was taken in by the lure of a
free suite of 3D programs). I did make those changes at the time Ken
brought this to our awareness to the revDebuggerValidGlobalNames function
but I made it in LC V 4.6.4, the latest version of LC I have. I didn't make
it in V 4.5.3, the one I'm having troubles with regarding the message box.

As it turns out, I don't think this is the issue, since I have not had this
issue with the script editor, just the message box. I went ahead and
plugged those changes into the revDebugger in V 4.5.3 but I've noticed no
effect one way or the other.

Thanks for the thought however.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:26 PM, AcidJazz mpe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Check this thread in the runrev forum for another possible cause of the
 problem, and a solution.

 http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12070

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-07-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
Thank you Mark! This is very helpful.

I've verified that I can now use breakpoints in the message box scripts and
will take a look to see if I can track down where the problem is when I
have some free time.

I've been getting along ok with my home grown one so I'm not in a rush, but
it's good to know I can get back to that.

Now I've hit another snag in IOS development because suddenly, after weeks
of working just fine, LC will no longer validate that I have a valid SDK in
my /Developer directory, even though it's there, so I can't use the
Simulator any more. G. I'm looking around for something expensive to
break.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Howard-

 Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:11:36 AM, you wrote:

  Any other ideas? I appreciate your help.

 The debugger has a trap to ignore errors in IDE stacks in order to
 prevent endless loops. If you need to debug the message box, issue the
 following commands. Normally I would say do this in the message box,
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-07-03 Thread Thunder
Does this help ?


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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
Glad it's useful. I should give credit to Richard Gaskin since we worked 
on it together, and he did a large part of the work.


On 6/28/12 7:15 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

thanks jacque,

this is marvelous!

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:58 PM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:


On 6/27/12 1:14 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:



Btw, do you know of a list of error message numbers so I can make the
error
reporting a little more robust?



I distributed this lookup stack today at the conference as part of my
debugging session:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/**23431607/ErrorLookup.livecode.**ziphttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/23431607/ErrorLookup.livecode.zip

This lookup stack is dynamic and will load the current error list from
whatever version of LC is currently running. You can just grab the list out
of the first field.

Alternately look up errorDialog in the dictionary which explains where the
list is kept in the IDE. You can grab it there.

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-28 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/27/12 1:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return.
  Nothing.


The only other person I know of who had this problem was Craig (DunbarX) 
and I think upgrading eventually fixed it. If I remember right, clicking 
the lower pane of the message box would activate it again, and allow 
typing into the upper pane. It was odd behavior.


I've not followed all this, so I can't remember if you tried deleting 
prefs and restarting. If so, maybe a reinstall would fix it. I seem to 
recall Craig did that and it didn't work, but who knows.


One thing that catches me sometimes is that the Messages icon is turned 
on (messages are blocked). If so, the message box stops working. Check that.


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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-28 Thread Howard Bornstein
thanks jacque,

this is marvelous!

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:58 PM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

 On 6/27/12 1:14 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:


 Btw, do you know of a list of error message numbers so I can make the
 error
 reporting a little more robust?


 I distributed this lookup stack today at the conference as part of my
 debugging session:

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/**23431607/ErrorLookup.livecode.**ziphttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/23431607/ErrorLookup.livecode.zip

 This lookup stack is dynamic and will load the current error list from
 whatever version of LC is currently running. You can just grab the list out
 of the first field.

 Alternately look up errorDialog in the dictionary which explains where the
 list is kept in the IDE. You can grab it there.

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-28 Thread Howard Bornstein
Craig's trick has never worked for me. Yes, I deleted all the prefs and
reinstalled LC. That didn't help. Messages are turned on but that was a
good thing to check.

I'm limping along with my self-rolled message box so I'm able to move
forward at this point. Thanks for the reply.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:02 PM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

 On 6/27/12 1:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

 Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return.
  Nothing.


 The only other person I know of who had this problem was Craig (DunbarX)
 and I think upgrading eventually fixed it. If I remember right, clicking
 the lower pane of the message box would activate it again, and allow typing
 into the upper pane. It was odd behavior.

 I've not followed all this, so I can't remember if you tried deleting
 prefs and restarting. If so, maybe a reinstall would fix it. I seem to
 recall Craig did that and it didn't work, but who knows.

 One thing that catches me sometimes is that the Messages icon is turned on
 (messages are blocked). If so, the message box stops working. Check that.


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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-27 Thread Howard Bornstein
I didn't know about revmessageboxredirect but even if I did, I couldn't set
it to empty because... well, the message box doesn't work ;-)

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 this is way off the wall and may not be related or work at all, but at one
 time there was this unlisted property called revmessageboxredirect, and it
 changed what is normally sent to the lower part of the message box ( like
 unrequited puts ) to another field in your stack.

  *set* the revmessageboxredirect to emptywill set to normal what

 *set* the revmessageboxredirect to the long id of me   had set up.




  On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
 
   Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it.
  
   So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the
 message
   box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the
   script for the message field.
  
   I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the
   ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the
   debugger.
  
   Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script
 Debug
   Mode?
  
   I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is
   working normally, including the message box until yesterday.
  
   Any ideas would be appreciated.
  
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-27 Thread Howard Bornstein
This is a great idea and it's what I did. It took some fiddling to get it
to work the way I wanted but I now can actually get some work done. Thanks
for the idea.

Btw, do you know of a list of error message numbers so I can make the error
reporting a little more robust?

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:32 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 one can make one's own 'message box' while trying to get a handle on
 this...

 create a new stack
 make a field to hold the command(s) - name it command
 make a button named 'execute' with this script

 on mouseup
get field command
do it
 end mouseup

 add a 'try' structure and error reporting and you have your own custom
 message box. Often I prefer to use my own, which has code formatting and
 coloring, and can execute Shell and Applescript commands too.  This method
 doesn't seem to have the oddities of the 'real' message box.

 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM, stephen barncard 
 stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

  this is way off the wall and may not be related or work at all, but at
 one
  time there was this unlisted property called revmessageboxredirect, and
 it
  changed what is normally sent to the lower part of the message box ( like
  unrequited puts ) to another field in your stack.
 
   *set* the revmessageboxredirect to emptywill set to normal what
 
  *set* the revmessageboxredirect to the long id of me   had set up.
 
 
 
 
  On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
 
   Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it.
  
   So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the
  message
   box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as
 the
   script for the message field.
  
   I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the
   ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the
   debugger.
  
   Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script
 Debug
   Mode?
  
   I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is
   working normally, including the message box until yesterday.
  
   Any ideas would be appreciated.
  
   --
   Regards,
  
   Howard Bornstein
 
  Stephen Barncard
  San Francisco Ca. USA
 
  more about sqb  http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar
 
 


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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-27 Thread Howard Bornstein
Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return.
 Nothing.

I've got the standard plugins along with a couple others, but I've been
using those for years and haven't updated them. Someone else on this list
reported the same problem with the message box last year, specifically with
V 4.5.3. I think this version is not particularly stable (all kinds of
on-going problems with the debugger and script editor).

I'm planning to upgrade everything to the current versions, but I wanted to
get a little further in IOS testing before I commit the $500 for the
upgrade.

Thanks for your replies.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 This happens with no stacks open or in memory and no plugins active? It
 sounds like there is something intercepting the enterKey or returnkey
 message and not passing it, perhaps in a frontscript.

 Bob


 On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

  Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what I put in the message box, since it
  never seems to act on the return key to execute the command.
 
  On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
  Try typing breakpoint;your command here
 
  You should be warned however that the message box is a strange beast,
 and
  may not behave as you expect, particularly with regard to execution
  contexts (if I remember right).
 
  Bob
 
 
  On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
 
  Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it.
 
  So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the
 message
  box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the
  script for the message field.
 
  I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the
  ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the
  debugger.
 
  Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script
 Debug
  Mode?
 
  I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is
  working normally, including the message box until yesterday.
 
  Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-27 Thread stephen barncard
which is why (in a follow up post) I suggested a method to make one's own
temporary 'message box' ...so you can poke around

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Howard Bornstein
bornst...@designeq.comwrote:

 I didn't know about revmessageboxredirect but even if I did, I couldn't set
 it to empty because... well, the message box doesn't work ;-)


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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-27 Thread Howard Bornstein
Which is why, in a follow up post to your follow up post, I told you I did
and thanked you for the suggestion ;-)

By the way, when I put set the revmessageboxredirect to empty in my
homegrown message box, it didn't do anything.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 2:25 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 which is why (in a follow up post) I suggested a method to make one's own
 temporary 'message box' ...so you can poke around

 On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Howard Bornstein
 bornst...@designeq.comwrote:

  I didn't know about revmessageboxredirect but even if I did, I couldn't
 set
  it to empty because... well, the message box doesn't work ;-)
 

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-27 Thread Peter M. Brigham
FWIW, I have been using 4.5.3 for a long time, still using it, and I've found 
it to be quite stable. I've never seen what you're describing. MacBook, OSX 
10.6.8, Rev Studio 4.5.3, build 1210.

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On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

 Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return.
 Nothing.
 
 I've got the standard plugins along with a couple others, but I've been
 using those for years and haven't updated them. Someone else on this list
 reported the same problem with the message box last year, specifically with
 V 4.5.3. I think this version is not particularly stable (all kinds of
 on-going problems with the debugger and script editor).
 
 I'm planning to upgrade everything to the current versions, but I wanted to
 get a little further in IOS testing before I commit the $500 for the
 upgrade.
 
 Thanks for your replies.
 
 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
 This happens with no stacks open or in memory and no plugins active? It
 sounds like there is something intercepting the enterKey or returnkey
 message and not passing it, perhaps in a frontscript.

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-27 Thread Howard Bornstein
Interesting. I have horrible problems with the editor and debugger. I
frequently have to close and restart the editor (losing all my open tabs)
and the debugger often skips over breakpoints and otherwise acts wonky. My
other version, 4.6.4, works much better but I don't have an IOS seat for
it.

I'll be happy to upgrade to the latest version when I can spring the money
free.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com wrote:

 FWIW, I have been using 4.5.3 for a long time, still using it, and I've
 found it to be quite stable. I've never seen what you're describing.
 MacBook, OSX 10.6.8, Rev Studio 4.5.3, build 1210.

 -- Peter

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 On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

  Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return.
  Nothing.
 
  I've got the standard plugins along with a couple others, but I've been
  using those for years and haven't updated them. Someone else on this list
  reported the same problem with the message box last year, specifically
 with
  V 4.5.3. I think this version is not particularly stable (all kinds of
  on-going problems with the debugger and script editor).
 
  I'm planning to upgrade everything to the current versions, but I wanted
 to
  get a little further in IOS testing before I commit the $500 for the
  upgrade.
 
  Thanks for your replies.
 
  On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
  This happens with no stacks open or in memory and no plugins active? It
  sounds like there is something intercepting the enterKey or returnkey
  message and not passing it, perhaps in a frontscript.

 

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-27 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/27/12 1:14 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:


Btw, do you know of a list of error message numbers so I can make the error
reporting a little more robust?


I distributed this lookup stack today at the conference as part of my 
debugging session:


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23431607/ErrorLookup.livecode.zip

This lookup stack is dynamic and will load the current error list from 
whatever version of LC is currently running. You can just grab the list 
out of the first field.


Alternately look up errorDialog in the dictionary which explains where 
the list is kept in the IDE. You can grab it there.


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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-26 Thread Howard Bornstein
Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it.

So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message
box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the
script for the message field.

I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the
ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the
debugger.

Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug
Mode?

I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is
working normally, including the message box until yesterday.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
Try typing breakpoint;your command here

You should be warned however that the message box is a strange beast, and may 
not behave as you expect, particularly with regard to execution contexts (if I 
remember right). 

Bob


On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

 Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it.
 
 So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message
 box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the
 script for the message field.
 
 I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the
 ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the
 debugger.
 
 Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug
 Mode?
 
 I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is
 working normally, including the message box until yesterday.
 
 Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-26 Thread Howard Bornstein
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what I put in the message box, since it
never seems to act on the return key to execute the command.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Try typing breakpoint;your command here

 You should be warned however that the message box is a strange beast, and
 may not behave as you expect, particularly with regard to execution
 contexts (if I remember right).

 Bob


 On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

  Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it.
 
  So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message
  box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the
  script for the message field.
 
  I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the
  ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the
  debugger.
 
  Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug
  Mode?
 
  I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is
  working normally, including the message box until yesterday.
 
  Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-26 Thread stephen barncard
this is way off the wall and may not be related or work at all, but at one
time there was this unlisted property called revmessageboxredirect, and it
changed what is normally sent to the lower part of the message box ( like
unrequited puts ) to another field in your stack.

 *set* the revmessageboxredirect to emptywill set to normal what

*set* the revmessageboxredirect to the long id of me   had set up.




 On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

  Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it.
 
  So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message
  box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the
  script for the message field.
 
  I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the
  ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the
  debugger.
 
  Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug
  Mode?
 
  I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is
  working normally, including the message box until yesterday.
 
  Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
  --
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Stephen Barncard
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-26 Thread stephen barncard
one can make one's own 'message box' while trying to get a handle on this...

create a new stack
make a field to hold the command(s) - name it command
make a button named 'execute' with this script

on mouseup
get field command
do it
end mouseup

add a 'try' structure and error reporting and you have your own custom
message box. Often I prefer to use my own, which has code formatting and
coloring, and can execute Shell and Applescript commands too.  This method
doesn't seem to have the oddities of the 'real' message box.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 this is way off the wall and may not be related or work at all, but at one
 time there was this unlisted property called revmessageboxredirect, and it
 changed what is normally sent to the lower part of the message box ( like
 unrequited puts ) to another field in your stack.

  *set* the revmessageboxredirect to emptywill set to normal what

 *set* the revmessageboxredirect to the long id of me   had set up.




 On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

  Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it.
 
  So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the
 message
  box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the
  script for the message field.
 
  I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the
  ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the
  debugger.
 
  Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug
  Mode?
 
  I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is
  working normally, including the message box until yesterday.
 
  Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
  --
  Regards,
 
  Howard Bornstein

 Stephen Barncard
 San Francisco Ca. USA

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Re: What happened to my message box?

2012-06-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
This happens with no stacks open or in memory and no plugins active? It sounds 
like there is something intercepting the enterKey or returnkey message and not 
passing it, perhaps in a frontscript. 

Bob


On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

 Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what I put in the message box, since it
 never seems to act on the return key to execute the command.
 
 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
 Try typing breakpoint;your command here
 
 You should be warned however that the message box is a strange beast, and
 may not behave as you expect, particularly with regard to execution
 contexts (if I remember right).
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
 
 Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it.
 
 So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message
 box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the
 script for the message field.
 
 I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the
 ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the
 debugger.
 
 Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug
 Mode?
 
 I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is
 working normally, including the message box until yesterday.
 
 Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
 --
 Regards,
 
 Howard Bornstein
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Re: What happened to my message box?

2011-10-05 Thread dunbarx
I had an issue, that nobody else ever seemed to be able to duplicate, where 
this happened. I was only able to activate the msg box by typing into the lower 
field and hitting return. From that point on, everything was back to normal. I 
also am in 4.5.3, and I think the issue was with this build. But I also have to 
say that the problem went away, somehow, many months ago, and has not returned.



-Original Message-
From: Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com
To: How to use Revolution use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:07 pm
Subject: What happened to my message box?


Yikes! I've been working in LC 4.5.3 (that's the version I have an IOS
license for) and things were going fine. Suddenly, the msg box stopped
responding. No matter what I put into it, nothing is displayed and the stack
indicator shows RevErrorDisplay.

Scripts can write to the message box fine, but trying to work directly in
the message box is a no-go.

Restarting LC doesn't fix this. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix or
debug this?

TIA

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Howard Bornstein
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