Re: Recommended (simple) Linux distro for Livecode server home dev/test?
Hello, Kieth. My health problems have kept me from really participating on the list for a long time but I stayed as I want to get back to using Livecode at some point. Your question about linux distros for server use on old hardware though is something I can comment on. Sorry I did not post this earlier before you more or less made a decision. At first I though the suggestions made were terrible because you said it was old hardware. Then I realized the problem is I am old and the others who responded were not picturing machines from the mid 1990's unlike me. I would go along with the suggestions made, especially the Lubuntu one assuming your hardware can handle it. If it cannot please post a follow up with an idea of how old your hardware is and I will make some specific recommendations. Let us hope your machine is not so old we start talking about Slackware installations but if we do I will get you some help with it. :-) The best way to make Ubuntu more efficient is to use a desktop environment (DE) that is less fancy and therefore less resource intensive. (Any flavour of Ubuntu can make use of any DE just by installing some extra software packages. Keep that in mind if you for some reason need to change the DE.) We could make the system even more efficient by starting with a base Debian install and building it up piece by piece to what you need. (Ubuntu is Debian based by the way.) Not as newbie friendly as installing Lubuntu but not hard either. Just something I am throwing out there as a backup plan. We can discuss it if you need it, but you will probably be OK with trying Lubuntu, etc. Good luck. Post a follow up if your hardware cannot handle the initial suggestions and we discuss other options. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Recommended (simple) Linux distro for Livecode server home dev/test?
Great, thanks - to all who responded - nothing quite like a shortlist of one to ease decision-making! :) Time to have a play... Best, Keith.. >> On 9 May 2020, at 20:01, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Keith Clarke wrote: >> Hi folks, >> Which distro(s) would you recommend for a Linux newbie as the easiest >> way to repurpose an old PC, Mac Laptop or Mini to host Livecode Server >> for lightweight ‘LAMP/LAML' dev/test dabbling? >> I’ve never had a Linux desktop machine and server-wise, never had to >> delve below C-Panel & WHM on hosted VPS Linux environments - so am >> very much the newbie on this. > > Ubuntu, without question. > > There many great distros, and I don't think there is a single "best". But > Ubuntu has by far the largest installed base, so most of the tutorials and > other support materials you'll find are written with Ubuntu in mind. > > This is especially true on servers. Heck, even on Microsoft's Azure cloud > ecosystem. Ubuntu is the leading OS. > > Desktop: > https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop > > Server: > https://ubuntu.com/download/server > > You may change later; some folks like to distro-hop often. But the vast range > of support materials makes Ubuntu the go-to starting point for getting into > Linux. > > >> Hardware specs would be useful, too - to gauge how far back on the >> cupboard to reach to source an appropriate box! > > You can check the requirements at the site, but you probably don't need to > worry about it. If it's for a sever you won't need the GUI desktop edition, > and it's the desktop where requirements tend to be much higher. There's a > flavor of Ubuntu for everything from Raspberry Pi to supercomputing clusters > - you should have no trouble finding one for your old PCs. The Server edition > should get you up and running on just about any machine made in the last 10 > years or more. > > > If you want a GUI desktop edition and have an old machine that's a bit > underpowered for Ubuntu, there's a lightweight flavor you can use: > > https://lubuntu.net/ > > Lubuntu is the leanest Ubuntu flavor I've tried. It's been running on my > desk almost continuously for the last decade, downloading, collating, and > posting data for the info you see in LiveNet (see the GoLiveNet plugin in > LC's Plugins menu). > > I prefer Ubuntu's Gnome Shell for my main workstation, but on lower-powered > machines I've been impressed with how efficiently Lubuntu runs. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > > ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Recommended (simple) Linux distro for Livecode server home dev/test?
On 5/9/20 6:46 AM, Keith Clarke via use-livecode wrote: Hi folks, Which distro(s) would you recommend for a Linux newbie as the easiest way to repurpose an old PC, Mac Laptop or Mini to host Livecode Server for lightweight ‘LAMP/LAML' dev/test dabbling? I’ve never had a Linux desktop machine and server-wise, never had to delve below C-Panel & WHM on hosted VPS Linux environments - so am very much the newbie on this. Hardware specs would be useful, too - to gauge how far back on the cupboard to reach to source an appropriate box! Agreed that it's Ubuntu. Shouldn't have to worry about the hardware specs, but do note that the LC release notes limit the "officially supported" Ubuntu versions to 14.04 and 16.04, if that matters to you (hint: it shouldn't). -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Recommended (simple) Linux distro for Livecode server home dev/test?
i would use Ubuntu server as there is much info about it on HowtoForge.com are very nice tutorials on how to setup Linux servers for several distributions of your choice. You can use these to set up a VPS, but also a Laptop or whatever to use as a server. Op 9-5-2020 om 15:46 schreef Keith Clarke via use-livecode: Hi folks, Which distro(s) would you recommend for a Linux newbie as the easiest way to repurpose an old PC, Mac Laptop or Mini to host Livecode Server for lightweight ‘LAMP/LAML' dev/test dabbling? I’ve never had a Linux desktop machine and server-wise, never had to delve below C-Panel & WHM on hosted VPS Linux environments - so am very much the newbie on this. Hardware specs would be useful, too - to gauge how far back on the cupboard to reach to source an appropriate box! Thanks & regards, Keith ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Recommended (simple) Linux distro for Livecode server home dev/test?
Keith Clarke wrote: > Hi folks, > Which distro(s) would you recommend for a Linux newbie as the easiest > way to repurpose an old PC, Mac Laptop or Mini to host Livecode Server > for lightweight ‘LAMP/LAML' dev/test dabbling? > > I’ve never had a Linux desktop machine and server-wise, never had to > delve below C-Panel & WHM on hosted VPS Linux environments - so am > very much the newbie on this. Ubuntu, without question. There many great distros, and I don't think there is a single "best". But Ubuntu has by far the largest installed base, so most of the tutorials and other support materials you'll find are written with Ubuntu in mind. This is especially true on servers. Heck, even on Microsoft's Azure cloud ecosystem. Ubuntu is the leading OS. Desktop: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop Server: https://ubuntu.com/download/server You may change later; some folks like to distro-hop often. But the vast range of support materials makes Ubuntu the go-to starting point for getting into Linux. > Hardware specs would be useful, too - to gauge how far back on the > cupboard to reach to source an appropriate box! You can check the requirements at the site, but you probably don't need to worry about it. If it's for a sever you won't need the GUI desktop edition, and it's the desktop where requirements tend to be much higher. There's a flavor of Ubuntu for everything from Raspberry Pi to supercomputing clusters - you should have no trouble finding one for your old PCs. The Server edition should get you up and running on just about any machine made in the last 10 years or more. If you want a GUI desktop edition and have an old machine that's a bit underpowered for Ubuntu, there's a lightweight flavor you can use: https://lubuntu.net/ Lubuntu is the leanest Ubuntu flavor I've tried. It's been running on my desk almost continuously for the last decade, downloading, collating, and posting data for the info you see in LiveNet (see the GoLiveNet plugin in LC's Plugins menu). I prefer Ubuntu's Gnome Shell for my main workstation, but on lower-powered machines I've been impressed with how efficiently Lubuntu runs. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Recommended (simple) Linux distro for Livecode server home dev/test?
Hi folks, Which distro(s) would you recommend for a Linux newbie as the easiest way to repurpose an old PC, Mac Laptop or Mini to host Livecode Server for lightweight ‘LAMP/LAML' dev/test dabbling? I’ve never had a Linux desktop machine and server-wise, never had to delve below C-Panel & WHM on hosted VPS Linux environments - so am very much the newbie on this. Hardware specs would be useful, too - to gauge how far back on the cupboard to reach to source an appropriate box! Thanks & regards, Keith ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
