Re: Sort list alphabetically- ignoring first character if it is a space

2023-02-22 Thread David Glasgow via use-livecode
Of course!!!  And indeed a bonus that we can keep happy our AI overlords-to-be.

> On 20 Feb 2023, at 10:11 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2/20/23 13:29, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote:
> 
> ...or to make ChatGPT happy:
> 
> sort tData ascending by word 1 to -1 of each # ignoring spaces
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mark Wieder
> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Sort list alphabetically- ignoring first character if it is a space

2023-02-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Sort by word 1 to -1 of each

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 20, 2023, at 14:12, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2/20/23 13:29, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote:
> 
> ...or to make ChatGPT happy:
> 
> sort tData ascending by word 1 to -1 of each # ignoring spaces
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mark Wieder
> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Sort list alphabetically- ignoring first character if it is a space

2023-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

David V Glasgow wrote:

> I am trying to alphabetically sort a list of unique strings, some of
> which have a leading space character.  I need these to sort as if the
> second character is the first character rather than all space prefixed
> strings being bunched together.

Would using the word delimited type help with this? e.g.:

  sort lines of field 1 by word 1 to -1 of each


> I just had a hilarious conversation with ChatGPT on this challenge.
> We ended up having a disagreement about whether a keyword “ignoring”
> exists in Livecode.  Please tell me it doesn’t.

I don't recall having seen an "ignoring" keyword in LiveCode.

But I have seen countless articles about Vincent Cerf, Mark Cuban, Steve 
Wozniak, and a great many others much smarter than me cautioning against 
making any investment in ChatGPT for serious work involving precision 
and accuracy.


Once you see it's a caffeinated auto-complete, the useful and less 
useful applications for a tool that literally can't understand a single 
word it spits out become clearer.


This background from Stephen Wolfram is helpful:
https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/02/what-is-chatgpt-doing-and-why-does-it-work/

ChatGPT is fascinating, but since this isn't the first time we've been 
through the Gartner hype cycle with an "AI" tech (I first joined AAAI 
back when Expert Systems were a thing), even more fascinating has been 
watching humans forget that the Trough of Disillusionment will happen 
before we eventually reach the Plateau of Productivity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gartner_hype_cycle

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Re: Sort list alphabetically- ignoring first character if it is a space

2023-02-20 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 2/20/23 13:29, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote:

...or to make ChatGPT happy:

sort tData ascending by word 1 to -1 of each # ignoring spaces



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 Mark Wieder
 ahsoftw...@gmail.com


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Re: Sort list alphabetically- ignoring first character if it is a space

2023-02-20 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
> David V Glasgow wrote:
> I am trying to alphabetically sort a list of unique strings, some of which 
> have 
> a leading space character.  I need these to sort as if the second character 
> is 
> the first character rather than all space prefixed strings being bunched 
> together.

Would 

sort tData ascending by word 1 to -1 of each

work for you?

Kind regards
Bernd
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Sort list alphabetically- ignoring first character if it is a space

2023-02-20 Thread David V Glasgow via use-livecode
I am trying to alphabetically sort a list of unique strings, some of which have 
a leading space character.  I need these to sort as if the second character is 
the first character rather than all space prefixed strings being bunched 
together.

I just had a hilarious conversation with ChatGPT on this challenge  We ended up 
having a disagreement about whether a keyword “ignoring” exists in Livecode.  
Please tell me it doesn’t.  (although even if it does, I don’t think it helps 
me with my task)

Anyway, I did learn something, but not whether there is an elegant way to do 
this.

I can see how I could extract strings starting with a space, replace the first 
character with the second character, combine the lists, sort, then replace the 
doctored strings with the space prefixed originals.  

However, I couldn’t help but wonder if there is a better  solution.

Anyone?

Best wishes,

David G
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