Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
On 07/02/14 14:50, Geoff Canyon wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before, but just in case: If you store your stack files in the dropbox folder on your computer, dropbox does a really good job of saving a copy of each separate file whenever the file is saved. You can look at a list of the saved versions and get/restore any of them. It's not git, but as a file-level resource it's a 1000x better than nothing. I borked up some code last night (never try to solve a problem at 3am that stumped you at 9pm) so I'm really happy that I can just revert to the 9pm version and forget whatever it is I did later on. In the interest of balance I feel I should put in a word for Spideroak, which has given me similarly useful service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spideroak It took me a while to configure it to my taste, as its UI is somewhat eccentric, but I'm happy enough with it. Its major SP is the zero-knowledge client-side encryption. While that isn't verifiable and I personally have no inclination to use any off-site service to store seriously valuable secrets (assuming I had any), whether encrypted or not, there are sometimes passwords and so-on embedded in my files and I'd rather not carry the vague or nagging worry that I am exposing those in plaintext to the marauding legions of network snoops and sneaks. You don't have to set up a special folder for it, you can configure it to backup whatever folders you want, and you have the option of keeping a local offline repo as well. It certainly is really useful to be able to dig out old, good copies of obscure files that have been corrupted for months before you realised it, or even new ones that got trashed in some senior moment. Worth a look maybe? Martin ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
And for easy Android testing.. Install DropBox on Android then have LiveCode save the apk into your DropBox folder on your dev computer open the apk from the Android DropBox install onto device. Been using DropBox for quick and easy versioning for a few years now and also have an account with Copy which backs up my DropBox folder.. all free easy and quick. DropBox https://db.tt/KIkCJVuc Copy https://copy.com?r=tfjqOy - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. Copy the new cloud space, get your free 15GB space now: Get Copy Your LiveCode Work Desks - New Blog http://livecodemydesk.blogspot.de/ PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Stupid-simple-version-control-using-dropbox-tp4675563p4675644.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Google Drive has the same feature. Right click a file, Manage versions. Never thought about using it for version control, thanks for the idea. Pete lcSQL Software On Feb 8, 2014 5:54 PM, Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com wrote: Mark, Thank you for sharing that, I looked all over for this when I heard about it, but when I saw the add on in the price structure I stopped looking. I guess Dropbox has one thing in common with LiveCode then - occasionally lacking in documentation! Thanks again, Paul On 2014-02-08, at 4:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Paul, Howard- Saturday, February 8, 2014, 3:07:28 PM, you wrote: You need a Business account or a Pro account with add ons for version history. Not necessary. On 2014-02-07, at 12:36 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: However, I don't see the stack versioning you describe in any of my stack files on Dropbox. Is there something specific one needs to do in order to invoke this characteristic of Dropbox? (the description below is for linux, I assume other OSs are similar) Right-click on the Dropbox icon in the tray Select Launch Dropbox website Find the file you're interested in Right-click the file for the contextual menu Select Previous versions From the list that appears, select one checkbox (ignore the fact that the checkbox looks like a radio button) Click the Restore button -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Now if you could mark/name the versions... On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Google Drive has the same feature. Right click a file, Manage versions. Never thought about using it for version control, thanks for the idea. Pete lcSQL Software On Feb 8, 2014 5:54 PM, Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com wrote: Mark, Thank you for sharing that, I looked all over for this when I heard about it, but when I saw the add on in the price structure I stopped looking. I guess Dropbox has one thing in common with LiveCode then - occasionally lacking in documentation! Thanks again, Paul On 2014-02-08, at 4:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Paul, Howard- Saturday, February 8, 2014, 3:07:28 PM, you wrote: You need a Business account or a Pro account with add ons for version history. Not necessary. On 2014-02-07, at 12:36 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: However, I don't see the stack versioning you describe in any of my stack files on Dropbox. Is there something specific one needs to do in order to invoke this characteristic of Dropbox? (the description below is for linux, I assume other OSs are similar) Right-click on the Dropbox icon in the tray Select Launch Dropbox website Find the file you're interested in Right-click the file for the contextual menu Select Previous versions From the list that appears, select one checkbox (ignore the fact that the checkbox looks like a radio button) Click the Restore button -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Actually you were partly right. The free account will save versions for only 30 days. After that older versions roll off. The paid accounts keep all versions forever. On February 8, 2014 7:54:59 PM CST, Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com wrote: Mark, Thank you for sharing that, I looked all over for this when I heard about it, but when I saw the add on in the price structure I stopped looking. I guess Dropbox has one thing in common with LiveCode then - occasionally lacking in documentation! Thanks again, Paul On 2014-02-08, at 4:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Paul, Howard- Saturday, February 8, 2014, 3:07:28 PM, you wrote: You need a Business account or a Pro account with add ons for version history. Not necessary. On 2014-02-07, at 12:36 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: However, I don't see the stack versioning you describe in any of my stack files on Dropbox. Is there something specific one needs to do in order to invoke this characteristic of Dropbox? (the description below is for linux, I assume other OSs are similar) Right-click on the Dropbox icon in the tray Select Launch Dropbox website Find the file you're interested in Right-click the file for the contextual menu Select Previous versions From the list that appears, select one checkbox (ignore the fact that the checkbox looks like a radio button) Click the Restore button -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
On 2/9/14, 4:51 AM, AndyP wrote: And for easy Android testing.. Install DropBox on Android then have LiveCode save the apk into your DropBox folder on your dev computer open the apk from the Android DropBox install onto device. Yup, I've been doing it that way for a long time and it works great. Been using DropBox for quick and easy versioning for a few years now and also have an account with Copy which backs up my DropBox folder.. all free easy and quick. DropBox https://db.tt/KIkCJVuc Copy https://copy.com?r=tfjqOy I hadn't heard of Copy before and was excited to hear it would work with aliases, because I want to keep my files in my own folder structure. Spent a while today trying it. It isn't ready for prime time yet, in fact, it messed up a whole lot of my files. It follows aliases recursively -- that is, if you put an aliased folder into Copy, and that folder has another aliased folder in it, then every last file in all the paths along the way get copied. I now have a few hundred unwanted files in there to delete, and even when I remove them from Copy their icons on my hard drive don't change. I now have a couple hundred files with their little checkmark icon on them. Also, if you alias a folder, and then put another aliased folder inside that, it doesn't see it. It apparently only follows aliased folders at the root level. Since OS X has decided to make their new aliases about 20x larger than the original file, I tried symlinks. I couldn't get Copy to honor those, though they say they should work (but maybe they weren't at the root level, I can't remember.) If you use Apple's huge aliases, even after removing the custom icon, you'll quickly use up your space. Apple has ballooned their aliases to include a ton of stuff, and my 2K text file has an alias that is almost 3 megs in size. Copy counts disk space by the alias file size rather than the actual file sizes, so instead of deducting 2K of space, it took off 3 megs. Maybe I'll try again some other time when they mature a bit. If anyone knows an automator sequence that can remove hundreds of custom icons from files, I'd love to know about it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Apple has ballooned their aliases to include a ton of stuff, and my 2K text file has an alias that is almost 3 megs in size. Wait a minute! What could possibly be taking up 3Mb is a simple pointer with an icon? Is this Mavericks? What in the blue blazes is Apple doing??? Anybody know? -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
On 2/9/14, 7:51 PM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Apple has ballooned their aliases to include a ton of stuff, and my 2K text file has an alias that is almost 3 megs in size. Wait a minute! What could possibly be taking up 3Mb is a simple pointer with an icon? Is this Mavericks? What in the blue blazes is Apple doing??? Anybody know? I wondered the same thing when I noticed it. Apparently it started in Mt Lion, and continues in Mavericks. It isn't a simple pointer any more, it's a mass of info, including one or more icon images along with folder information and other data. You can delete at least one of the extra icon images by cutting it in the Get Info box, which reduces the size somewhat, but not entirely. The size apparently depends on all sorts of factors. In many cases the alias is larger than the original file. Google mac os huge alias file and you'll get hits. Here's one: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3988292?tstart=0 You can make symlinks in Terminal or use a utility, those are still tiny. But they break if you move the original file, of course. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
And some of you may be interested in Sookasa, a utility that works with Dropbox to encrypt files. It creates a Sookasa folder in your Dropbox folder, and encrypts the files there so that the version that lives on your hard drive and the version in the Dropbox cloud are both encrypted. They use AES 256 bit encryption and the higher level products (cost more) have full HIPAA-level encryption. If you plan on working offline you can DL a decryption key for accessing your files that is good for 48 hours. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Geoff, I completely agree. I have a 16GB account and keep a backup of my active project folder on Dropbox and, which has saved me a few times. Anyone else reading this: if you want to register for Dropbox quickly, you can follow this link http://qery.us/u6 -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 2/7/2014 15:50, Geoff Canyon wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before, but just in case: If you store your stack files in the dropbox folder on your computer, dropbox does a really good job of saving a copy of each separate file whenever the file is saved. You can look at a list of the saved versions and get/restore any of them. It's not git, but as a file-level resource it's a 1000x better than nothing. I borked up some code last night (never try to solve a problem at 3am that stumped you at 9pm) so I'm really happy that I can just revert to the 9pm version and forget whatever it is I did later on. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Howard, You need a Business account or a Pro account with add ons for version history. https://www.dropbox.com/business/pricing Paul On 2014-02-07, at 12:36 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: However, I don't see the stack versioning you describe in any of my stack files on Dropbox. Is there something specific one needs to do in order to invoke this characteristic of Dropbox? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Mark, Thank you for sharing that, I looked all over for this when I heard about it, but when I saw the add on in the price structure I stopped looking. I guess Dropbox has one thing in common with LiveCode then - occasionally lacking in documentation! Thanks again, Paul On 2014-02-08, at 4:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Paul, Howard- Saturday, February 8, 2014, 3:07:28 PM, you wrote: You need a Business account or a Pro account with add ons for version history. Not necessary. On 2014-02-07, at 12:36 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: However, I don't see the stack versioning you describe in any of my stack files on Dropbox. Is there something specific one needs to do in order to invoke this characteristic of Dropbox? (the description below is for linux, I assume other OSs are similar) Right-click on the Dropbox icon in the tray Select Launch Dropbox website Find the file you're interested in Right-click the file for the contextual menu Select Previous versions From the list that appears, select one checkbox (ignore the fact that the checkbox looks like a radio button) Click the Restore button -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Right-click on the Dropbox icon in the tray Select Launch Dropbox website Find the file you're interested in Right-click the file for the contextual menu Select Previous versions From the list that appears, select one checkbox (ignore the fact that the checkbox looks like a radio button) Click the Restore button Yep, same here on OS X. I started by simply using a browser and going to dropbox.com and signing in, but from Find the file you're interested in it's identical. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Not sure if this has been posted before, but just in case: If you store your stack files in the dropbox folder on your computer, dropbox does a really good job of saving a copy of each separate file whenever the file is saved. You can look at a list of the saved versions and get/restore any of them. It's not git, but as a file-level resource it's a 1000x better than nothing. I borked up some code last night (never try to solve a problem at 3am that stumped you at 9pm) so I'm really happy that I can just revert to the 9pm version and forget whatever it is I did later on. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Geoff, I completely agree. I have a 16GB account and keep a backup of my active project folder on Dropbox and, which has saved me a few times. Anyone else reading this: if you want to register for Dropbox quickly, you can follow this link http://qery.us/u6 I had no idea that dropbox has an affiliate program. I guess I should post a link as well so people can flip a coin: https://db.tt/cmupVN7Q ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Geoff- Friday, February 7, 2014, 6:50:25 AM, you wrote: It's not git, but as a file-level resource it's a 1000x better than nothing. I borked up some code last night (never try to solve a problem at 3am that stumped you at 9pm) so I'm really happy that I can just revert to the 9pm version and forget whatever it is I did later on. That has saved my bacon more times than several. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Hi Geoff, I completely agree. I have a 16GB account and keep a backup of my active project folder on Dropbox and, which has saved me a few times. Anyone else reading this: if you want to register for Dropbox quickly, you can follow this link http://qery.us/u6 -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 2/7/2014 15:50, Geoff Canyon wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before, but just in case: If you store your stack files in the dropbox folder on your computer, dropbox does a really good job of saving a copy of each separate file whenever the file is saved. You can look at a list of the saved versions and get/restore any of them. It's not git, but as a file-level resource it's a 1000x better than nothing. I borked up some code last night (never try to solve a problem at 3am that stumped you at 9pm) so I'm really happy that I can just revert to the 9pm version and forget whatever it is I did later on. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Hi Geoff, I've been using Scott Rossi's trick of putting a player app in Dropbox and having it load in my current stack into IOS via a text link. ( http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2012-February/167981.html) It is so helpful to be able to make a change in my current app in the editor on my computer, save the stack to Dropbox, and have the changes immediately appear in my IOS app on my iPhone. However, I don't see the stack versioning you describe in any of my stack files on Dropbox. Is there something specific one needs to do in order to invoke this characteristic of Dropbox? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before, but just in case: If you store your stack files in the dropbox folder on your computer, dropbox does a really good job of saving a copy of each separate file whenever the file is saved. You can look at a list of the saved versions and get/restore any of them. It's not git, but as a file-level resource it's a 1000x better than nothing. I borked up some code last night (never try to solve a problem at 3am that stumped you at 9pm) so I'm really happy that I can just revert to the 9pm version and forget whatever it is I did later on. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
