Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Monte Goulding]

> On 25 Jul 2016, at 2:58 AM, Mark Wieder  wrote:
> 
> On 07/24/2016 12:39 AM, Monte wrote:
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 

I know how to change it Mark but thanks for your help. I don’t change it 
because I have fat fingers that always end up causing the typos that are now 
the topic of conversation here ;-)

Cheers

Monte
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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Mark Wieder]

On 07/24/2016 12:39 AM, Monte wrote:


Sent from my iPhone




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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Mark Wieder]

On 07/24/2016 12:39 AM, Richmond wrote:

"depredation" . . . Yum!


Yeah, I was gonna let that pass.
Figured somebody else would follow up on it.

Ah... the wonders of mobile phone autocorrect.

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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Richmond]

"depredation" . . . Yum!

R.


On 24.07.2016 01:29, Monte Goulding wrote:

Support for deprecation (at least in a consistent and visually obvious way) has 
only just been added to the dictionary. If anyone would like to contribute to 
adding depredation notes to the lcdoc files they are quite welcome!

Cheers

Monte

Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Jul 2016, at 11:34 PM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

With LC v8.0 and later the property is now officially deprecated, though I'm 
not sure why that isn't noted in the v8.1 Dictionary.


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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Richard Gaskin]

Monte Goulding wrote:

> Support for deprecation (at least in a consistent and visually
> obvious way) has only just been added to the dictionary. If anyone
> would like to contribute to adding depredation notes to the lcdoc
> files they are quite welcome!

Thank, Monte.  Fortunately it's so rare that a language token becomes 
deprecated that it's not much of an issue.


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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Monte Goulding]

Support for deprecation (at least in a consistent and visually obvious way) has 
only just been added to the dictionary. If anyone would like to contribute to 
adding depredation notes to the lcdoc files they are quite welcome!

Cheers

Monte

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Jul 2016, at 11:34 PM, Richard Gaskin  
> wrote:
> 
> With LC v8.0 and later the property is now officially deprecated, though I'm 
> not sure why that isn't noted in the v8.1 Dictionary.


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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Richard Gaskin]

Richmond wrote:

> And here is what the 7.1.4 dictionary has to say, blow an icon that
> says liveResizing IS a feature
>
> on Macintosh:
> "On Mac OS, Unix, and Windows systems, the liveResizing property has
> no effect."
>
> Ha, Ha, Ha: very nearly got a hernia laughing at that one.
>
> The BIG QUESTION has to be:
>
> "Where does this property have an effect?"

If you read the description of what liveResizing used to do, you may 
also have noticed that OS X never did that.  The property was useful in 
Mac OS 9 and earlier, now long past EOL.


With LC v8.0 and later the property is now officially deprecated, though 
I'm not sure why that isn't noted in the v8.1 Dictionary.


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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Richmond]

And here is what the 7.1.4 dictionary has to say, blow an icon that says 
liveResizing IS a feature


on Macintosh:

"On Mac OS, Unix, and Windows systems, the liveResizing property has no 
effect."


Ha, Ha, Ha: very nearly got a hernia laughing at that one.

The BIG QUESTION has to be:

"Where does this property have an effect?"

Richmond.


On 23.07.2016 11:41, [-hh] wrote:

Paul_Hibbert wrote

... setting the liveResizing of the stack to false does exit fullscreen
mode,
although the stack grows in height by 22px!

The most useful bug of the year!
Works in LC 6/7/8 and also this way:

set liveresizing of this stack to the liveresizing of this stack

Sadly liveresizing is in LC 8 no longer a "supported" property (deprecated).
Perhaps it could be renamed to "exitFullscreen"?



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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[[-hh]]

Paul_Hibbert wrote
> ... setting the liveResizing of the stack to false does exit fullscreen
> mode,
> although the stack grows in height by 22px!

The most useful bug of the year!
Works in LC 6/7/8 and also this way:

set liveresizing of this stack to the liveresizing of this stack

Sadly liveresizing is in LC 8 no longer a "supported" property (deprecated).
Perhaps it could be renamed to "exitFullscreen"?



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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Paul Hibbert]

I doubt this is any use for what you need, but strangely, setting the 
liveResizing of the stack to false does exit fullscreen mode, although the 
stack grows in height by 22px!

Paul

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
> 
> I eventually figured out the stack's decorations were hidden behind the
> LiveCode toolbar (and the green button was changed to grey an OS version
> or two back).
> 
> But I'm still wondering if there's a command to exit the OS's fullscreen
> mode without making the menubar visible, like how most apps employ the
> escape key.
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/22/16, 3:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Colin Holgate"
> <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
> colinholg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> You mouse over the top of the screen, and the menu and titlebar will
>> appear. Then click the green button to come out of full screen mode. Same
>> thing works for all other Mac windows.
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, on OS X 10.11 I decided to see what happens when maximizing a stack.
>>> The window went fullscreen and my script for repositioning controls
>>> works
>>> great, but now the display is stuck in fullscreen mode.  How do I get
>>> the
>>> view back to multi-window view?  Setting the width/height of the stack
>>> resizes the stack but leaves a black OS backdrop in place and the
>>> display
>>> remains set the fullscreen mode.  What's the command to un-fullscreen a
>>> stack?
>>> 
>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>> 
>>> Scott Rossi
>>> Creative Director
>>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Scott Rossi]

Thanks, good to know.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 7/22/16, 3:29 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding"
<use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of mo...@appisle.net>
wrote:

>Here it is http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16946
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 23 Jul 2016, at 8:19 AM, Monte Goulding <mo...@appisle.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I have a bug report open about this. Apple decided to just change the
>>way windows worked in 10.11 and this has caused a number of issues we
>>need to resolve. For the moment you can't script a way out of fullscreen
>>mode so you need to use the widget again at the top of the screen.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Monte
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 23 Jul 2016, at 8:05 AM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, on OS X 10.11 I decided to see what happens when maximizing a
>>>stack.
>>> The window went fullscreen and my script for repositioning controls
>>>works
>>> great, but now the display is stuck in fullscreen mode.  How do I get
>>>the
>>> view back to multi-window view?  Setting the width/height of the stack
>>> resizes the stack but leaves a black OS backdrop in place and the
>>>display
>>> remains set the fullscreen mode.  What's the command to un-fullscreen a
>>> stack?
>>> 
>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>> 
>>> Scott Rossi
>>> Creative Director
>>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>



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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Scott Rossi]

I eventually figured out the stack's decorations were hidden behind the
LiveCode toolbar (and the green button was changed to grey an OS version
or two back).

But I'm still wondering if there's a command to exit the OS's fullscreen
mode without making the menubar visible, like how most apps employ the
escape key.

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 7/22/16, 3:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Colin Holgate"
<use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
colinholg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>You mouse over the top of the screen, and the menu and titlebar will
>appear. Then click the green button to come out of full screen mode. Same
>thing works for all other Mac windows.
>
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, on OS X 10.11 I decided to see what happens when maximizing a stack.
>> The window went fullscreen and my script for repositioning controls
>>works
>> great, but now the display is stuck in fullscreen mode.  How do I get
>>the
>> view back to multi-window view?  Setting the width/height of the stack
>> resizes the stack but leaves a black OS backdrop in place and the
>>display
>> remains set the fullscreen mode.  What's the command to un-fullscreen a
>> stack?
>> 
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Scott Rossi]

When the stack is maximized using the window decorations, setting the
fullscreen to false doesn't revert the stack back to its original
dimensions unless the fullScreen was enabled to begin with.  But manually
setting the stack's dimensions can resize/reposition it.

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 7/22/16, 3:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Colin Holgate"
<use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
colinholg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>You mouse over the top of the screen, and the menu and titlebar will
>appear. Then click the green button to come out of full screen mode. Same
>thing works for all other Mac windows.
>
>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, on OS X 10.11 I decided to see what happens when maximizing a stack.
>> The window went fullscreen and my script for repositioning controls
>>works
>> great, but now the display is stuck in fullscreen mode.  How do I get
>>the
>> view back to multi-window view?  Setting the width/height of the stack
>> resizes the stack but leaves a black OS backdrop in place and the
>>display
>> remains set the fullscreen mode.  What's the command to un-fullscreen a
>> stack?
>> 
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Monte Goulding]

Here it is http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16946

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Jul 2016, at 8:19 AM, Monte Goulding <mo...@appisle.net> wrote:
> 
> I have a bug report open about this. Apple decided to just change the way 
> windows worked in 10.11 and this has caused a number of issues we need to 
> resolve. For the moment you can't script a way out of fullscreen mode so you 
> need to use the widget again at the top of the screen.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Monte
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 23 Jul 2016, at 8:05 AM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, on OS X 10.11 I decided to see what happens when maximizing a stack.
>> The window went fullscreen and my script for repositioning controls works
>> great, but now the display is stuck in fullscreen mode.  How do I get the
>> view back to multi-window view?  Setting the width/height of the stack
>> resizes the stack but leaves a black OS backdrop in place and the display
>> remains set the fullscreen mode.  What's the command to un-fullscreen a
>> stack?
>> 
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Monte Goulding]

I have a bug report open about this. Apple decided to just change the way 
windows worked in 10.11 and this has caused a number of issues we need to 
resolve. For the moment you can't script a way out of fullscreen mode so you 
need to use the widget again at the top of the screen.

Cheers

Monte

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Jul 2016, at 8:05 AM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, on OS X 10.11 I decided to see what happens when maximizing a stack.
> The window went fullscreen and my script for repositioning controls works
> great, but now the display is stuck in fullscreen mode.  How do I get the
> view back to multi-window view?  Setting the width/height of the stack
> resizes the stack but leaves a black OS backdrop in place and the display
> remains set the fullscreen mode.  What's the command to un-fullscreen a
> stack?
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Colin Holgate]

You mouse over the top of the screen, and the menu and titlebar will appear. 
Then click the green button to come out of full screen mode. Same thing works 
for all other Mac windows.

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, on OS X 10.11 I decided to see what happens when maximizing a stack.
> The window went fullscreen and my script for repositioning controls works
> great, but now the display is stuck in fullscreen mode.  How do I get the
> view back to multi-window view?  Setting the width/height of the stack
> resizes the stack but leaves a black OS backdrop in place and the display
> remains set the fullscreen mode.  What's the command to un-fullscreen a
> stack?
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Devin Asay]

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, on OS X 10.11 I decided to see what happens when maximizing a stack.
> The window went fullscreen and my script for repositioning controls works
> great, but now the display is stuck in fullscreen mode.  How do I get the
> view back to multi-window view?  Setting the width/height of the stack
> resizes the stack but leaves a black OS backdrop in place and the display
> remains set the fullscreen mode.  What's the command to un-fullscreen a
> stack?

set the fullscreen of this stack to false

Did that not work? (I’m still on 10.10.)

Devin


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Office of Digital Humanities
Brigham Young University

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UN-FullScreen a Stack?

[Scott Rossi]

OK, on OS X 10.11 I decided to see what happens when maximizing a stack.
The window went fullscreen and my script for repositioning controls works
great, but now the display is stuck in fullscreen mode.  How do I get the
view back to multi-window view?  Setting the width/height of the stack
resizes the stack but leaves a black OS backdrop in place and the display
remains set the fullscreen mode.  What's the command to un-fullscreen a
stack?

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design






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