Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Folks:
Just in case you are getting the same "invalid bsd flags ….” when you try to do 
a disc first aid using disk utility, on your Macintosh SSD boot drive, it turns 
out that the recent versions of OneDrive are causing that error. I found that 
the error only occurs on the SSD drive. If I boot from an external drive, the 
error doesn’t occur. I found it while using Preview to view an email pdf 
attachment. The system hangs when I then try to export that pdf to someplace 
else. If I load, then export some other pdf file (not from mail), it works 
normally.

I’ve spent loads of time chasing this down and it seems there is something 
special about the SSD drive file system that OneDrive messes up. 

See:
https://onedrive.uservoice.com/forums/913525-onedrive-on-mac/suggestions/36302779-remove-warning-inode-val-object-invalid-bsd-fl
 


I have put a LOT of things on OneNote, so don’t want to delete OneDrive (which 
syncs the notes across devices). So, I’ll wait a bit and hope Microsoft does a 
fix.

Best,
Bill

> On Feb 8, 2019, at 3:34 PM, hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> I had severe problems when starting with MacOS 10.14.
> As I know now these were mostly permission problems.
> 
> The Apple security hystery may help to that. I still
> have some files of zero size that are not deletable
> and change their name. I think this is caused by MacOS.
> But meanwhile I'm running 10.14.3 without problems.
> 
> For repairing and maintenace I use Onyx (which has for
> each main MacOS an own version):
> https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html
> 
> I personally think that "bitDefender" and "CleanMyMac"
> make more harm than they help. Onyx is more transparent
> and helped me out of the problems described above.
> 
> 
> p.s. The revonline cache is deletable from the LC prefs.
> The LC caches are in /Library/Application\ Support/RunRev.
> You can open the folder from message box:
> 
> launch document $HOME&"/Library/Application Support/RunRev"
> 
> Good luck!
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[JJS via use-livecode]

Hi Rick,

well it was a year or 2 back, there was a message that it would send 
device info and god knows what else data back to them(not just virus 
info), which i could not decline other then get rid of it.


Maybe in the meanwhile, with the GDPR stuff, they've changed it. But it 
was the reason why i kicked it off. And then i don't go back to it, even 
if it's for free. My trust was gone.


Even in NL last year it was issued not to use Kaspersky anymore. 
Although Kasperksy claimed to not be involved with russian government 
actions. They even moved to Switzerland if i'm correct, to gain confidence.



Regards,

Jerry


Op 11-2-2019 om 22:13 schreef Rick Harrison via use-livecode:

Hi JJS,

Could you please elaborate on this point?

It seems to me that any anti-virus is not
privacy safe as they all check every file
on your computer system for viruses, and
usually share such information back to the
company so they can continue to improve
their product.

Thanks,

Rick


On Feb 11, 2019, at 1:54 PM, JJS via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Note that Avast is not privacy safe.

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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi JJS,

Could you please elaborate on this point?

It seems to me that any anti-virus is not
privacy safe as they all check every file
on your computer system for viruses, and
usually share such information back to the
company so they can continue to improve
their product.

Thanks,

Rick

> On Feb 11, 2019, at 1:54 PM, JJS via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Note that Avast is not privacy safe.

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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Richard, 

Yes I noticed it was Linux, so supposedly LiveCode could run on it.
I was just hoping for a confirmation from someone.

If I get a Librem laptop I suppose I can answer the question myself,
and thankfully cut out the middle man. Doh, I guess that would be you. ;-)
(If I were to get rich soon, I would send one to you, so wish me luck!)

Rick



> On Feb 11, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's a Linux so one could, though the world's a big place so it's hard to be 
> sure if anyone actually is.
> 
> If you'd like to have a Librem laptop sent to my office I'll be able to 
> answer that question affirmatively. :)
> 
> -- 
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> Fourth World Systems

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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[JJS via use-livecode]

Note that Avast is not privacy safe.

On 11-02-19 01:21, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Bill,

Try Avast!

https://www.avast.com/en-us/index#mac 

Rick


On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:04 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Problem solved, but first:
I found that BitDefender kept deleting the “Safe Application” setting for 
“Livecode Business 9.0.2”, so it blocked writing to the Devo Prefs file. The OS 
wouldn’t let me delete the library files associated with BitDefender. I also 
found that there were un-fixable errors in my boot drive, which is an SSD 
drive. I wanted to delete all anti-virus files and CleanMyMac, which contained 
both version 3 and X. I also needed to deal with the boot drive disc errors, 
which DiskUtility couldn’t fix. I was going to have to completely erase and 
reformat the boot drive. Fortunately, my boot drive was still functioning 
mostly normally.

First I booted my computer from an external drive that I had created a couple 
of weeks ago using SuperDuper. Then I deleted all Library files related to 
BitDefender and CleanMyMac. I think I got all of them, but may have missed 
something.

Next I created a disc image big enough to hold all of my boot drive content (on 
an external drive), so I could restore it after reformatting. I used SuperDuper 
to copy my boot drive content to the disc image. Then I reformatted my original 
boot drive and after that, used SuperDuper to copy the disc image contents back 
to my original boot drive.

I checked that the Devo prefs were being updated correctly, and yes, they were. 
Problem solved.

I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody have 
recommendations?

Best,
Bill



On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin:
I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks.

Thanks,
Brian
On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
, wrote:

Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I thought Navigator 
would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking the IDE has lost some globals, or messages, 
it crashes for me all the time now, at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says 
"cannot reproduce..."

Besides, two other programs unrelated, will suddenly "wink out" I say that, because, you may be doing 
something else, the application is not experiencing any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a 
crash report. It's as if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process." Although it also happens in 
the IDE, especially when dragging a control from the tool bar onto a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when 
create a button, drag it the tools pallet "Oh no! the IDE crashed, again...sigh" Now, that seems unrelated... 
but

Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I hard to 
reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3

Now, this morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done nothing else, one is 
tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"

I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast

BR

Bill wrote: So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated the 
os to 10.14.3.

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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

It's a Linux so one could, though the world's a big place so it's hard 
to be sure if anyone actually is.


If you'd like to have a Librem laptop sent to my office I'll be able to 
answer that question affirmatively. :)


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems


Rick Harrison wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> Is anyone running LiveCode on it yet?
>
> Rick
>
>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 12:47 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> Upgrade to one of the most secure OSes on the planet:
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/ 
>>
>> But why run it on stock hardware when you can have the world's most
>> secure laptop for under $1400?:
>> https://puri.sm 



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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Richard, 

Is anyone running LiveCode on it yet?

Rick

> On Feb 11, 2019, at 12:47 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Upgrade to one of the most secure OSes on the planet:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/ 
> 
> But why run it on stock hardware when you can have the world's most secure 
> laptop for under $1400?:
> https://puri.sm 
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

+1 I know Windows people sometimes think this is a bit reckless, bordering on 
arrogant, but facts is facts as they say, and for whatever reason, MacOS has 
very few exploits, and all that I have seen require the end user to do 
something foolish, like click OK in a dialog which they have no reason to 
expect. 

Bob S


> "I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody
> have recommendations?"
> 
> most likely you don't need one.  I have never used one on a mac since 1983.
> Just practice safe computing.
> --
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> mixstream.org

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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

William Prothero wrote:

> I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though.
> Anybody have recommendations?

Upgrade to one of the most secure OSes on the planet:
https://www.qubes-os.org/

But why run it on stock hardware when you can have the world's most 
secure laptop for under $1400?:

https://puri.sm

:)

Or follow Stephen's guidance.

But really, the Purism Librem is a nice machine, and you can order it 
with QubesOS preinstalled.


--
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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,

Try Avast!

https://www.avast.com/en-us/index#mac 

Rick

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:04 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Problem solved, but first:
> I found that BitDefender kept deleting the “Safe Application” setting for 
> “Livecode Business 9.0.2”, so it blocked writing to the Devo Prefs file. The 
> OS wouldn’t let me delete the library files associated with BitDefender. I 
> also found that there were un-fixable errors in my boot drive, which is an 
> SSD drive. I wanted to delete all anti-virus files and CleanMyMac, which 
> contained both version 3 and X. I also needed to deal with the boot drive 
> disc errors, which DiskUtility couldn’t fix. I was going to have to 
> completely erase and reformat the boot drive. Fortunately, my boot drive was 
> still functioning mostly normally.
> 
> First I booted my computer from an external drive that I had created a couple 
> of weeks ago using SuperDuper. Then I deleted all Library files related to 
> BitDefender and CleanMyMac. I think I got all of them, but may have missed 
> something.
> 
> Next I created a disc image big enough to hold all of my boot drive content 
> (on an external drive), so I could restore it after reformatting. I used 
> SuperDuper to copy my boot drive content to the disc image. Then I 
> reformatted my original boot drive and after that, used SuperDuper to copy 
> the disc image contents back to my original boot drive.
> 
> I checked that the Devo prefs were being updated correctly, and yes, they 
> were. Problem solved.
> 
> I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody have 
> recommendations?
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin:
>> I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>> On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>> , wrote:
>>> Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I 
>>> thought Navigator would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking 
>>> the IDE has lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time 
>>> now, at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot 
>>> reproduce..."
>>> 
>>> Besides, two other programs unrelated, will suddenly "wink out" I say that, 
>>> because, you may be doing something else, the application is not 
>>> experiencing any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash 
>>> report. It's as if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process." 
>>> Although it also happens in the IDE, especially when dragging a control 
>>> from the tool bar onto a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when 
>>> create a button, drag it the tools pallet "Oh no! the IDE crashed, 
>>> again...sigh" Now, that seems unrelated... but
>>> 
>>> Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I hard to 
>>> reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3
>>> 
>>> Now, this morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done nothing 
>>> else, one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"
>>> 
>>> I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast
>>> 
>>> BR
>>> 
>>> Bill wrote: So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated 
>>> the os to 10.14.3.
>>> 
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

"I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody
have recommendations?"

most likely you don't need one.  I have never used one on a mac since 1983.
Just practice safe computing.
--
Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org


On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:05 PM William Prothero via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Problem solved, but first:
> I found that BitDefender kept deleting the “Safe Application” setting for
> “Livecode Business 9.0.2”, so it blocked writing to the Devo Prefs file.
> The OS wouldn’t let me delete the library files associated with
> BitDefender. I also found that there were un-fixable errors in my boot
> drive, which is an SSD drive. I wanted to delete all anti-virus files and
> CleanMyMac, which contained both version 3 and X. I also needed to deal
> with the boot drive disc errors, which DiskUtility couldn’t fix. I was
> going to have to completely erase and reformat the boot drive. Fortunately,
> my boot drive was still functioning mostly normally.
>
> First I booted my computer from an external drive that I had created a
> couple of weeks ago using SuperDuper. Then I deleted all Library files
> related to BitDefender and CleanMyMac. I think I got all of them, but may
> have missed something.
>
> Next I created a disc image big enough to hold all of my boot drive
> content (on an external drive), so I could restore it after reformatting. I
> used SuperDuper to copy my boot drive content to the disc image. Then I
> reformatted my original boot drive and after that, used SuperDuper to copy
> the disc image contents back to my original boot drive.
>
> I checked that the Devo prefs were being updated correctly, and yes, they
> were. Problem solved.
>
> I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody
> have recommendations?
>
> Best,
> Bill
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin:
> > I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> > On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via
> use-livecode , wrote:
> >> Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I
> thought Navigator would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking
> the IDE has lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time
> now, at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot
> reproduce..."
> >>
> >> Besides, two other programs unrelated, will suddenly "wink out" I say
> that, because, you may be doing something else, the application is not
> experiencing any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash
> report. It's as if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process."
> Although it also happens in the IDE, especially when dragging a control
> from the tool bar onto a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when
> create a button, drag it the tools pallet "Oh no! the IDE crashed,
> again...sigh" Now, that seems unrelated... but
> >>
> >> Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I
> hard to reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3
> >>
> >> Now, this morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done
> nothing else, one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"
> >>
> >> I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast
> >>
> >> BR
> >>
> >> Bill wrote: So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then
> updated the os to 10.14.3.
> >>
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Problem solved, but first:
I found that BitDefender kept deleting the “Safe Application” setting for 
“Livecode Business 9.0.2”, so it blocked writing to the Devo Prefs file. The OS 
wouldn’t let me delete the library files associated with BitDefender. I also 
found that there were un-fixable errors in my boot drive, which is an SSD 
drive. I wanted to delete all anti-virus files and CleanMyMac, which contained 
both version 3 and X. I also needed to deal with the boot drive disc errors, 
which DiskUtility couldn’t fix. I was going to have to completely erase and 
reformat the boot drive. Fortunately, my boot drive was still functioning 
mostly normally.

First I booted my computer from an external drive that I had created a couple 
of weeks ago using SuperDuper. Then I deleted all Library files related to 
BitDefender and CleanMyMac. I think I got all of them, but may have missed 
something.

Next I created a disc image big enough to hold all of my boot drive content (on 
an external drive), so I could restore it after reformatting. I used SuperDuper 
to copy my boot drive content to the disc image. Then I reformatted my original 
boot drive and after that, used SuperDuper to copy the disc image contents back 
to my original boot drive.

I checked that the Devo prefs were being updated correctly, and yes, they were. 
Problem solved.

I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody have 
recommendations?

Best,
Bill


> On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin:
> I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
> , wrote:
>> Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I 
>> thought Navigator would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking 
>> the IDE has lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time 
>> now, at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot 
>> reproduce..."
>> 
>> Besides, two other programs unrelated, will suddenly "wink out" I say that, 
>> because, you may be doing something else, the application is not 
>> experiencing any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash 
>> report. It's as if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process." 
>> Although it also happens in the IDE, especially when dragging a control from 
>> the tool bar onto a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when create a 
>> button, drag it the tools pallet "Oh no! the IDE crashed, again...sigh" Now, 
>> that seems unrelated... but
>> 
>> Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I hard to 
>> reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3
>> 
>> Now, this morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done nothing 
>> else, one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"
>> 
>> I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast
>> 
>> BR
>> 
>> Bill wrote: So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated 
>> the os to 10.14.3.
>> 
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin:
I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks.

Thanks,
Brian
On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I 
> thought Navigator would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking the 
> IDE has lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time now, 
> at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot 
> reproduce..."
>
> Besides, two other programs unrelated, will suddenly "wink out" I say that, 
> because, you may be doing something else, the application is not experiencing 
> any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash report. It's 
> as if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process." Although it 
> also happens in the IDE, especially when dragging a control from the tool bar 
> onto a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when create a button, drag it 
> the tools pallet "Oh no! the IDE crashed, again...sigh" Now, that seems 
> unrelated... but
>
> Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I hard to 
> reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3
>
> Now, this morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done nothing 
> else, one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"
>
> I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast
>
> BR
>
> Bill wrote: So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated 
> the os to 10.14.3.
>
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I thought 
Navigator would not save preferences.  Went back to work, thinking the IDE has 
lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time now, at least 
once a day.  No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot reproduce..." 

Besides, two other programs  unrelated, will suddenly "wink out"  I say that, 
because, you may be doing something else, the application is not experiencing 
any "user operations". Suddenly it crashes and you get a crash report. It's as 
if a gremlin in the background is issuing a "Kill process."   Although it also 
happens in the  IDE, especially when dragging a control from the tool bar onto 
a stack. I always save, hold my breath now when create a button, drag it the 
tools pallet  "Oh no! the IDE crashed, again...sigh"  Now, that seems 
unrelated... but

Not paying much attention update notices. Busy getting work done. I hard to 
reboot. Ha! big update got installed. OS X 10.4.3 

Now, this  morning Navigator prefs are saved Yay! Having done nothing else, 
one is tempted to say, it was a "mysterious OS thing"

I never had time to investigate... Rick: I'll try Avast

BR

Bill wrote:  So I used diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated the 
os to 10.14.3. 

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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[prothero--- via use-livecode]

Hmmm.. I got it to work by declaring livecode, with correct app name, a safe 
application, in BitDefender, but that setting wouldn’t stick. When I looked at 
bitdefender again the safe setting for livecode had disappeared. So I used 
diskutility to repair the system drive, then updated the os to 10.14.3. 
Probably I did too many things at once. I’ll uninstall CleanMyMac and see what 
happens. The extensions are in ../Documents/myLivecode folder.

I’ll have to wait until tomorrow to see if the above actions fixed it. Thanks 
for the advice.

Bill

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http://es.earthednet.org

> On Feb 8, 2019, at 8:28 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rick Harrison wrote:
> 
> > 3. I would also reinstall macOS if I were you.
> 
> It may not be so bad.  Let's see what his plugins path is first.
> 
> If he's using LC's plugins folder rather than a custom one, that would 
> explain the behavior, no?
> 
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Rick Harrison wrote:

> 3. I would also reinstall macOS if I were you.

It may not be so bad.  Let's see what his plugins path is first.

If he's using LC's plugins folder rather than a custom one, that would 
explain the behavior, no?


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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,

CleanMyMac is considered by many to be malware.

1. Make sure you have a good backup (Time Machine)
or image copy of your Mac.

2. Dump CleanMyMac  

3. I would also reinstall macOS if I were you.

4. Try Avast and do a scan to see it is finds anything.
(I have discovered it is much better than Sophos
 at finding things, and won’t slow your computer
 down as much as Sophos.)

Good luck!

Rick


> On Feb 8, 2019, at 5:54 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> ...
> I’ve got bitDefender and “CleanMyMac”. However, I can write, and update test 
> data, with a livecode script, to the Plugins folder so I am really stuck and 
> out of ideas.
> 
> This is very puzzling. Has anybody else seen this behavior?
> 
> Best,
> Bill

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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

William Prothero wrote:


> Folks:
> Livecode 9.0.2 business Mac OSX 10.14.2
>
> I can’t figure this out. I’m having problems with LiveCode Plugins
> writing prefs to the Plugins folder on my Mac. None of the prefs
> for the extensions are able to update. At first, I thought it was
> a problem with 4WDevolution, but now it’s with Navigator and won’t
> install Hermann’s Turnimage extension. The prefs files (not TurnImage,
> which throws an error) show up in the extensions folder with a “~”
> after them, indicating it’s a temporary file with 0 bytes and that
> the save has failed. So I can see that there is an attempt to write
> the prefs file in the correct place, but replacing the older file
> with the new file fails.r
>
> I’ve got bitDefender and “CleanMyMac”. However, I can write, and
> update test data, with a livecode script, to the Plugins folder so
> I am really stuck and out of ideas.
>
> This is very puzzling. Has anybody else seen this behavior?

I haven't, but I'm sure we can solve it.

What is the full path to your Plugins folder?

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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[Geoff Canyon via use-livecode]

On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:55 PM William Prothero via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Folks:
> Livecode 9.0.2 business Mac OSX 10.14.2
>

I'm also on 10.14.2 and I'm not seeing this with Navigator. (or other
plugins) Sorry I don't have something better to offer.
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Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[hh via use-livecode]

Bill,

I had severe problems when starting with MacOS 10.14.
As I know now these were mostly permission problems.

The Apple security hystery may help to that. I still
have some files of zero size that are not deletable
and change their name. I think this is caused by MacOS.
But meanwhile I'm running 10.14.3 without problems.

For repairing and maintenace I use Onyx (which has for
each main MacOS an own version):
https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html

I personally think that "bitDefender" and "CleanMyMac"
make more harm than they help. Onyx is more transparent
and helped me out of the problems described above.


p.s. The revonline cache is deletable from the LC prefs.
The LC caches are in /Library/Application\ Support/RunRev.
You can open the folder from message box:

launch document $HOME&"/Library/Application Support/RunRev"

Good luck!

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Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Folks:
Livecode 9.0.2 business Mac OSX 10.14.2

I can’t figure this out. I’m having problems with LiveCode Plugins writing 
prefs to the Plugins folder on my Mac. None of the prefs for the extensions are 
able to update. At first, I thought it was a problem with 4WDevolution, but now 
it’s with Navigator and won’t install Hermann’s Turnimage extension. The prefs 
files (not TurnImage, which throws an error) show up in the extensions folder 
with a “~” after them, indicating it’s a temporary file with 0 bytes and that 
the save has failed. So I can see that there is an attempt to write the prefs 
file in the correct place, but replacing the older file with the new file 
fails.r

I’ve got bitDefender and “CleanMyMac”. However, I can write, and update test 
data, with a livecode script, to the Plugins folder so I am really stuck and 
out of ideas.

This is very puzzling. Has anybody else seen this behavior?

Best,
Bill

 



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