Re: handling push notifications
Correct, if you open the app from the notification center in 7 or 8 you get the payload. However, if you just open the app from the springboard, you do not. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: OK, it seems like you do get the payload when opening the app from the notification centre on iOS8 but not iOS6. I’m not sure about iOS7 because I haven’t got another device that I can test it on. Does anyone know? Terry... On 17/10/2014 12:31 pm, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: That¹s disappointing. Just to get this straight, the only time I get the payload is if the app is open - either when the notification arrives or if I select it from the Œlist¹ available when swiping down from the top of the screen. If the app isn¹t open then no payload via any method. Terry... On 17/10/2014 11:51 am, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: you don't. There are several open bug reports on push, and that's one of them. If the app isn't running and the user opens it via the springboard, no payload. If they open it via the notification center, payload. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: Just starting with push notifications and have managed to get a simple example working using the livecode example code and AWS¹s SNS service. So far so good! Now, in the livecode example it an Œalert¹ and a Œpayload¹ are sent. The payload is received if the app is open and the alert is displayed if it isn¹t. How do you capture the payload if the app isn¹t open for example if you wanted to display it when the user taps the notification alert? TerryŠ Dr Terry Judd http://scholar.google.com.au/citations?user=XC5s6wwJhl=en Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unithttp://medicine.unimelb.edu.au/medical-education The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: handling push notifications
OK, it seems like you do get the payload when opening the app from the notification centre on iOS8 but not iOS6. I’m not sure about iOS7 because I haven’t got another device that I can test it on. Does anyone know? Terry... On 17/10/2014 12:31 pm, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: That¹s disappointing. Just to get this straight, the only time I get the payload is if the app is open - either when the notification arrives or if I select it from the Œlist¹ available when swiping down from the top of the screen. If the app isn¹t open then no payload via any method. Terry... On 17/10/2014 11:51 am, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: you don't. There are several open bug reports on push, and that's one of them. If the app isn't running and the user opens it via the springboard, no payload. If they open it via the notification center, payload. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: Just starting with push notifications and have managed to get a simple example working using the livecode example code and AWS¹s SNS service. So far so good! Now, in the livecode example it an Œalert¹ and a Œpayload¹ are sent. The payload is received if the app is open and the alert is displayed if it isn¹t. How do you capture the payload if the app isn¹t open for example if you wanted to display it when the user taps the notification alert? TerryŠ Dr Terry Judd http://scholar.google.com.au/citations?user=XC5s6wwJhl=en Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unithttp://medicine.unimelb.edu.au/medical-education The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
handling push notifications
Just starting with push notifications and have managed to get a simple example working using the livecode example code and AWS’s SNS service. So far so good! Now, in the livecode example it an ‘alert’ and a ‘payload’ are sent. The payload is received if the app is open and the alert is displayed if it isn’t. How do you capture the payload if the app isn’t open – for example if you wanted to display it when the user taps the notification alert? Terry… Dr Terry Juddhttp://scholar.google.com.au/citations?user=XC5s6wwJhl=en Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unithttp://medicine.unimelb.edu.au/medical-education The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: handling push notifications
you don't. There are several open bug reports on push, and that's one of them. If the app isn't running and the user opens it via the springboard, no payload. If they open it via the notification center, payload. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: Just starting with push notifications and have managed to get a simple example working using the livecode example code and AWS’s SNS service. So far so good! Now, in the livecode example it an ‘alert’ and a ‘payload’ are sent. The payload is received if the app is open and the alert is displayed if it isn’t. How do you capture the payload if the app isn’t open – for example if you wanted to display it when the user taps the notification alert? Terry… Dr Terry Judd http://scholar.google.com.au/citations?user=XC5s6wwJhl=en Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unithttp://medicine.unimelb.edu.au/medical-education The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: handling push notifications
That¹s disappointing. Just to get this straight, the only time I get the payload is if the app is open - either when the notification arrives or if I select it from the Œlist¹ available when swiping down from the top of the screen. If the app isn¹t open then no payload via any method. Terry... On 17/10/2014 11:51 am, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: you don't. There are several open bug reports on push, and that's one of them. If the app isn't running and the user opens it via the springboard, no payload. If they open it via the notification center, payload. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: Just starting with push notifications and have managed to get a simple example working using the livecode example code and AWS¹s SNS service. So far so good! Now, in the livecode example it an Œalert¹ and a Œpayload¹ are sent. The payload is received if the app is open and the alert is displayed if it isn¹t. How do you capture the payload if the app isn¹t open for example if you wanted to display it when the user taps the notification alert? TerryŠ Dr Terry Judd http://scholar.google.com.au/citations?user=XC5s6wwJhl=en Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unithttp://medicine.unimelb.edu.au/medical-education The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: handling push notifications
Terry wrote: Thats disappointing Really? I'm just resigned to the fact that LC doesn't allow us to develop modern iOS apps that have the same capabilities (in terms of background operations) as xCode-developed apps. I've stopped trying and I've stopped being disappointed about it. What I'd LOVE is a clear statement from RunRev about their intentions in this area - will they ever support background operations? (And don't tell me to just use the .plist hack - the problem is much broader than the app not quitting on suspend). Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: handling push notifications
Try it. That's my observation. So, what I do, instead, is instead of sending the payload (which has to be short, anyhow), is have the app recognize that it's gotten a push notification, then hit my server to find out why. The message you send is for the user, anyway. The payload has to be small, unfortunately, so either you have to send many messages to get the entire payload (and Apple specifically states that they do not guarantee delivery or the order of delivery), or you have to hit your server, anyway. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Gerry gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote: Terry wrote: Thats disappointing Really? I'm just resigned to the fact that LC doesn't allow us to develop modern iOS apps that have the same capabilities (in terms of background operations) as xCode-developed apps. I've stopped trying and I've stopped being disappointed about it. What I'd LOVE is a clear statement from RunRev about their intentions in this area - will they ever support background operations? (And don't tell me to just use the .plist hack - the problem is much broader than the app not quitting on suspend). Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: handling push notifications
Thanks Mike - makes sense for the app to check in with the server when it starts up so I guess I'll go down that route. Terry... Sent from my iPhone On 17/10/2014, at 1:12 PM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Try it. That's my observation. So, what I do, instead, is instead of sending the payload (which has to be short, anyhow), is have the app recognize that it's gotten a push notification, then hit my server to find out why. The message you send is for the user, anyway. The payload has to be small, unfortunately, so either you have to send many messages to get the entire payload (and Apple specifically states that they do not guarantee delivery or the order of delivery), or you have to hit your server, anyway. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Gerry gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote: Terry wrote: Thats disappointing Really? I'm just resigned to the fact that LC doesn't allow us to develop modern iOS apps that have the same capabilities (in terms of background operations) as xCode-developed apps. I've stopped trying and I've stopped being disappointed about it. What I'd LOVE is a clear statement from RunRev about their intentions in this area - will they ever support background operations? (And don't tell me to just use the .plist hack - the problem is much broader than the app not quitting on suspend). Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
