more iOS questions
I am slowly getting there on this first iPad project, but things that should be fairly easy simply aren't for me. First the keyboard I now know about the on keyboardActivated on keyboardDeactivated handlers, but I can''t figure out how to use it. In some cases I want the app to slide up with the keyboard. I seemed to me that in that handler I should set loc the bottom of the stack to to the top of the keyboard, so I tried setting item 2 in the bottomLeft of the stack to item 2 in the topLeft of the keyboard. But the script editor doesn't accept calling the keyboard the keyboard. How does one refer to the native keyboard? Or is this aproach just plain wrong? Returning to the app from another app How does one get the app to be suspended and then resumed? Everytime I return to the app its seems to have quit and it restarts. In the liveCode dictionary, suspend and resume don't apply to mobile systems. How is this done? MobGui I couldn't make a native scroller myself, so I tried mobGui. Is it not possible to try before you buy? Because I followed the simple instructions for a native scrolling text field, but on the iPad it made no difference whatsoever. Can't one try mobGui on a device begore you buy it? I plan to buy it, but I'd like to at least see if these things work before I do. Cheers, Lars ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: more iOS questions
On 10/31/12 10:19 AM, Lars Brehmer wrote: I now know about the on keyboardActivated on keyboardDeactivated handlers, but I can''t figure out how to use it. In some cases I want the app to slide up with the keyboard. I seemed to me that in that handler I should set loc the bottom of the stack to to the top of the keyboard, so I tried setting item 2 in the bottomLeft of the stack to item 2 in the topLeft of the keyboard. But the script editor doesn't accept calling the keyboard the keyboard. How does one refer to the native keyboard? Or is this aproach just plain wrong? The latest release has added the effective working screenrect which gives you the useable dimensions of the screen when the keyboard is showing. The second item in the rect would be the top of the keyboard. Returning to the app from another app How does one get the app to be suspended and then resumed? Everytime I return to the app its seems to have quit and it restarts. In the liveCode dictionary, suspend and resume don't apply to mobile systems. How is this done? Apps will always quit, the engine doesn't yet support suspend. To return to where the user left off, trap the shutdown message and save the current state of the app to a file on disk. On preOpenStack, restore it. MobGui I couldn't make a native scroller myself, so I tried mobGui. Is it not possible to try before you buy? Because I followed the simple instructions for a native scrolling text field, but on the iPad it made no difference whatsoever. Can't one try mobGui on a device begore you buy it? I plan to buy it, but I'd like to at least see if these things work before I do. The last time I checked, MobGUI was fully functional even if unregistered, but on a device or in a simulator it showed a dialog when the app launched that said it was an unlicensed version. If you aren't seeing anything at all, there might be a problem with the stack or the scripts. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: more iOS questions
On 10/31/12 4:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/31/12 10:19 AM, Lars Brehmer wrote: I now know about the on keyboardActivated on keyboardDeactivated handlers, but I can''t figure out how to use it. In some cases I want the app to slide up with the keyboard. I seemed to me that in that handler I should set loc the bottom of the stack to to the top of the keyboard, so I tried setting item 2 in the bottomLeft of the stack to item 2 in the topLeft of the keyboard. But the script editor doesn't accept calling the keyboard the keyboard. How does one refer to the native keyboard? Or is this aproach just plain wrong? The latest release has added the effective working screenrect which gives you the useable dimensions of the screen when the keyboard is showing. The second item in the rect would be the top of the keyboard. Oops. The fourth item. Sorry. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
OK, two basic iOS questions (formerly iPad retina weirdness)
Sorry if anybody reacted to this! I finally found the iphoneUseDeviceResolution true function, and now it looks just like I meant it to look! But the fact that I asked really underscores how behind I am on the learning curve of using liveCode for iDevices! So my app looks very nice indeed, but two very basic problems with the functionality popped up. First: I assumed that scrolling text fields were somehow handled automatically in iOS, that is a flick of the finger scrolls the field. I guess you all know that this is not the case! I have a scrolling list field which when the desired line is reached, mouseUp on it performs the desired operation. I found the iosScroller keyword and the BeginDecelerate and EndDecelerate, but unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to implement them! A little help here? The second one also involves a bad guess about what iOS automaticaly does. This one involves the keyboard. In iOS when you tap a field it appears. But in every app I have ever seen if the active field is at the bottom of the app, the entire app slides up, so the keyboard does not prevent you from seeing what you are typing. But it's not automatic. Does anyone know how to do this? I am astonished at how fantastic liveCode works with iOS and was amazed to see that almost everything works smoothly on the first try, even for someone with my limited skills! But htese two very basic things are crucial, so I am looking for tips! Cheers, Lars ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OK, two basic iOS questions (formerly iPad retina weirdness)
Hi Lars, happy that you found iphoneUseDeviceResolution :-) So, about iOS scrolling, see this discussion on the forum : http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=13141 ... about the keyboard ... nothing in iOS is automatic... you have to do manually, eg. grouping the controls and moving up/down the group following the keyboard status ... Guglielmo On 26.10.2012 15:21, Lars Brehmer wrote: Sorry if anybody reacted to this! I finally found the iphoneUseDeviceResolution true function, and now it looks just like I meant it to look! But the fact that I asked really underscores how behind I am on the learning curve of using liveCode for iDevices! So my app looks very nice indeed, but two very basic problems with the functionality popped up. First: I assumed that scrolling text fields were somehow handled automatically in iOS, that is a flick of the finger scrolls the field. I guess you all know that this is not the case! I have a scrolling list field which when the desired line is reached, mouseUp on it performs the desired operation. I found the iosScroller keyword and the BeginDecelerate and EndDecelerate, but unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to implement them! A little help here? The second one also involves a bad guess about what iOS automaticaly does. This one involves the keyboard. In iOS when you tap a field it appears. But in every app I have ever seen if the active field is at the bottom of the app, the entire app slides up, so the keyboard does not prevent you from seeing what you are typing. But it's not automatic. Does anyone know how to do this? I am astonished at how fantastic liveCode works with iOS and was amazed to see that almost everything works smoothly on the first try, even for someone with my limited skills! But htese two very basic things are crucial, so I am looking for tips! Cheers, Lars ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OK, two basic iOS questions (formerly iPad retina weirdness)
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Lars Brehmer larsbreh...@me.com wrote: I have a scrolling list field which when the desired line is reached, mouseUp on it performs the desired operation. I found the iosScroller keyword and the BeginDecelerate and EndDecelerate, but unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to implement them! A little help here? Try two fingers; lots of iOs scroll that way. -- Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OK, two basic iOS questions (formerly iPad retina weirdness)
On 10/26/12 11:45 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Lars Brehmer larsbreh...@me.com wrote: I have a scrolling list field which when the desired line is reached, mouseUp on it performs the desired operation. I found the iosScroller keyword and the BeginDecelerate and EndDecelerate, but unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to implement them! A little help here? Try two fingers; lots of iOs scroll that way. It isn't automatic, the whole thing needs to be scripted. I checked for a lesson on it but I don't see one, though this comes close: http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/44421-how-to-create-a-scrolling-group-using-the-improved-graphics-architecture There have been some example scripts posted here and to the forums, a search would probably turn them up. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
Hi Monte, just so I am sure I understand /command mergNotify pNotification This command registers for a notification to be sent to the calling control (me) whenever it occurs. The same notification may be registered by multiple controls in your app. If a single control registers for the same notification multiple times it will receive it multiple times./ Does that mean the calling control could be a stack? And if your stack is made up of multiple stacks do you have to set notifications for each stack in order to be able to respond to UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification? Or can you set it once for the whole application? Thanks -- Mark -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-questions-tp4656338p4656479.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
Hi Mark Yes the calling control can be a stack. Anything that you can refer to as 'me' in your code. Wherever you handle startup/shutdown etc you can handle UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification for your whole app. Most likely in the mainstack script but could be in a library script or backscript. Cheers Monte On 18/10/2012, at 12:53 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Hi Monte, just so I am sure I understand /command mergNotify pNotification This command registers for a notification to be sent to the calling control (me) whenever it occurs. The same notification may be registered by multiple controls in your app. If a single control registers for the same notification multiple times it will receive it multiple times./ Does that mean the calling control could be a stack? And if your stack is made up of multiple stacks do you have to set notifications for each stack in order to be able to respond to UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification? Or can you set it once for the whole application? Thanks -- Mark -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-questions-tp4656338p4656479.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
J. Landman Gay wrote It's a field in the iOS pane in standalone settings. Just choose a PNG from your hard drive. Got that working, very cool! Do you know if there is an option to remove the shine (settings, newsstand, contacts, calendar, game centre for example don't have shine, messages, youtube, iTunes, appstore do have shine). For my icon image, it would be best without. Thanks -- Mark -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-questions-tp4656338p4656458.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
At the top of the icons section is a checkbox marked Prerendered Icon. Checking that will make it use your non-shine version. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
Jacque, thanks for the pointer re: the icon. Monte, what I want to do is encrypt the file (mergeAES) before the system shuts down or hibernates. Essentially trap it and send a shutdown/close stack request to myself so I can terminate in an orderly fashion. Doable? Thanks -- Mark -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-questions-tp4656338p4656371.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
Monte, what I want to do is encrypt the file (mergeAES) before the system shuts down or hibernates. Essentially trap it and send a shutdown/close stack request to myself so I can terminate in an orderly fashion. Doable? mergNotify UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification on UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification -- do your encryption here end UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
Monte Goulding wrote on UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification -- do your encryption here end UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification Thanks -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-questions-tp4656338p4656373.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
Monte Goulding wrote on UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification -- do your encryption here end UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification I'm going to try: on UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification close this stack end UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification and see if we can get an orderly shutdown with encryption and all (all the code to handle it is in the closestack handler) which is also sent when you press the home button. Interestingly I just checked the docs on the home button and its not mentioned except in reference to the screen orientation. But clearly when you press home it sends a closestack message and shuts down the application. Strange how this would not be documented (unless I missed it)? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-questions-tp4656338p4656374.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
On 15/10/2012, at 2:10 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Monte Goulding wrote on UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification -- do your encryption here end UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification I'm going to try: on UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification close this stack end UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification Hmm... I'm not positive that's the best plan as you will probably find your stack is closed when the user awakens their phone. I would suggest something like this: on closeStack encryptItAll end encryptItAll on UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification encryptItAll end UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification on encryptItAll -- do your encryption and save end encryptItAll If you really want to force quit at sleep then try: on UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification quit end UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification Not sure if apple will be happy about that though Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS questions
Two, hopefully very simple, questions: 1. can we detect the on/off button (upper right, towards the rear) on an iPad? 2. is there a tutorial around on how to add an application icon for an iPad program? Thanks -- Mark -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-questions-tp4656338.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
I don't think you can trap this event. Also I don't think there's a separate notification for this button as opposed to the system just going to sleep. But if you just want to know if the device is put to sleep eiher way with your app running then that's what mergNotify was invented for. You want UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification and UIApplicationDidBecomeActiveNotification and these are in the demo. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 14/10/2012, at 1:22 PM, Mark Smith mark_sm...@cpe.umanitoba.ca wrote: 1. can we detect the on/off button (upper right, towards the rear) on an iPad? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS questions
On 10/13/12 9:22 PM, Mark Smith wrote: 2. is there a tutorial around on how to add an application icon for an iPad program? It's a field in the iOS pane in standalone settings. Just choose a PNG from your hard drive. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
