Re: screen resolution and stack height
As far as height, on desktop you might want to keep in mind the fixed elements of the window like the titlebar height which is different on Mac and Windows. Also menus at the top of the screen on Mac, and as part of the window on Windows. And then there’s the dock on Mac which may be at the bottom, and the taskbar in Windows which is definitely at the bottom. The dock and the taskbar can be hidden by Livecode. To maximize height, I use a 1024 x 728 window that automatically scales down on open when the screen is too small and also have an option for the user to scale to the full height available. The current screen pixel size is available in Livecode. Peter Bogdanoff > On Dec 2, 2021, at 10:30 AM, David V Glasgow via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks for more thoughts guys. I do have a scale factor button, but don’t > want to stretch, so I use ‘letterbox' > > The cinematography web page inspired me to experiment more freely and I found > that 3:2 seems to be a good compromise despite not matching any screen > ’standard'. It scales on screens pretty well, and fits reasonably well > printed onto a landscape A4 page, which is about 2.82:2 > > It is matches the aspect ratio of DSLR sensors and classic 35mm film, which > to my eye at least, looks lovely. Perhaps because it is very close to the > ‘golden rectangle’ (3:1.85). That could just be me being a bit bonkers, but > it would be interesting to know if there is more widely felt appreciation of > certain aspect ratios. > > So for now I am going with 1200x800 > > Cheers, & thanks again > > David G > >> On 2 Dec 2021, at 3:41 pm, Paul McClernan via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Alternatively you could add a magnification control that sets the stack’s >> scaleFactor properly, or sets the stack to fullscreen mode and stretches it >> to fit with fullScreenMode “exact fit”. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: screen resolution and stack height
Thanks for more thoughts guys. I do have a scale factor button, but don’t want to stretch, so I use ‘letterbox' The cinematography web page inspired me to experiment more freely and I found that 3:2 seems to be a good compromise despite not matching any screen ’standard'. It scales on screens pretty well, and fits reasonably well printed onto a landscape A4 page, which is about 2.82:2 It is matches the aspect ratio of DSLR sensors and classic 35mm film, which to my eye at least, looks lovely. Perhaps because it is very close to the ‘golden rectangle’ (3:1.85). That could just be me being a bit bonkers, but it would be interesting to know if there is more widely felt appreciation of certain aspect ratios. So for now I am going with 1200x800 Cheers, & thanks again David G > On 2 Dec 2021, at 3:41 pm, Paul McClernan via use-livecode > wrote: > > Alternatively you could add a magnification control that sets the stack’s > scaleFactor properly, or sets the stack to fullscreen mode and stretches it > to fit with fullScreenMode “exact fit”. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: screen resolution and stack height
Alternatively you could add a magnification control that sets the stack’s scaleFactor properly, or sets the stack to fullscreen mode and stretches it to fit with fullScreenMode “exact fit”. On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 10:24 AM Sean Cole via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I remember when 16:9 became the new 'standard'. That didn't last long. > Nowhere near as long as 4:3. Soon after we started seeing 16:10 and 5:4. > Now we are starting to see these Ultrawides at about 21:9. It won't stop. > > Do you remember when there were only 2 screen ratios for iPhone and iPad? > Heady days! > > It's worth splitting your apps up into panels that are each width/height > adjustable. Then have your app geometry adjust to the users desires and > limitations. It's a lot of coding as the geometry controls aren't always > perfect (even the 3rd party ones) but it gives the user greater freedom. > > Sean > > On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 at 14:51, David V Glasgow via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2 Dec 2021, at 2:31 pm, Craig Newman via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > > Here is a neat article: > > > > > > https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-4-3-aspect-ratio/ > > > > > > > Interesting! I suppose my original point is that in the old days you > > could create at any intermediate ratio and it would match or scale nicely > > to fit the screen. > > > > Is there a larger ratio that works similarly?(I suspect not) > > > > Alternatively, I will take the recommended anarchists’ solution and make > > it the best dimensions for the task. > > > > Thanks for the advice folks. > > > > Cheers > > > > David G > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: screen resolution and stack height
I remember when 16:9 became the new 'standard'. That didn't last long. Nowhere near as long as 4:3. Soon after we started seeing 16:10 and 5:4. Now we are starting to see these Ultrawides at about 21:9. It won't stop. Do you remember when there were only 2 screen ratios for iPhone and iPad? Heady days! It's worth splitting your apps up into panels that are each width/height adjustable. Then have your app geometry adjust to the users desires and limitations. It's a lot of coding as the geometry controls aren't always perfect (even the 3rd party ones) but it gives the user greater freedom. Sean On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 at 14:51, David V Glasgow via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > On 2 Dec 2021, at 2:31 pm, Craig Newman via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Here is a neat article: > > > > https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-4-3-aspect-ratio/ > > > > Interesting! I suppose my original point is that in the old days you > could create at any intermediate ratio and it would match or scale nicely > to fit the screen. > > Is there a larger ratio that works similarly?(I suspect not) > > Alternatively, I will take the recommended anarchists’ solution and make > it the best dimensions for the task. > > Thanks for the advice folks. > > Cheers > > David G > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: screen resolution and stack height
> On 2 Dec 2021, at 2:31 pm, Craig Newman via use-livecode > wrote: > > Here is a neat article: > > https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-4-3-aspect-ratio/ > Interesting! I suppose my original point is that in the old days you could create at any intermediate ratio and it would match or scale nicely to fit the screen. Is there a larger ratio that works similarly?(I suspect not) Alternatively, I will take the recommended anarchists’ solution and make it the best dimensions for the task. Thanks for the advice folks. Cheers David G ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Fwd: screen resolution and stack height
Here is a neat article: https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-4-3-aspect-ratio/ > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Craig Newman via use-livecode > Subject: Re: screen resolution and stack height > Date: December 2, 2021 at 9:24:41 AM EST > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Craig Newman > Reply-To: How to use LiveCode > > Hi. > > The 4:3 ratio, unless I completely do not understand any of this, is not > pertinent to a desktop app. It was for viewing film and TV back in the day > when there was much less flexibility in display screen technology. Much less. > The monitors I see around me are all anything but 4:3. I have one rotated 90 > degrees and it is about 4:2. > > So what prevents you from making your card size whatever you want? In other > words, why worry about this at all? > > Craig > >> On Dec 1, 2021, at 2:26 PM, David Glasgow via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I have been developing a desktop stack at 1024×760 for a while. Vertical >> space is becoming increasingly cramped, and I need a bit more. I reckon 40 >> pixels would do it. >> >> Obviously that would break the 4:3 ratio. So am I better reconfiguring for >> a completely different screen ratio (if so, which), or just setting the >> stack height to what I need? I remember 1280×800 was common for quite a >> while, but is it still? >> >> I Googled about a bit, but the interweb was full of contradictory advice. >> (Imagine that!) >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> David Glasgow >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Fwd: screen resolution and stack height
Sloppy. My ratio is approx. 2:4 > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Craig Newman via use-livecode > Subject: Re: screen resolution and stack height > Date: December 2, 2021 at 9:24:41 AM EST > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Craig Newman > Reply-To: How to use LiveCode > > Hi. > > The 4:3 ratio, unless I completely do not understand any of this, is not > pertinent to a desktop app. It was for viewing film and TV back in the day > when there was much less flexibility in display screen technology. Much less. > The monitors I see around me are all anything but 4:3. I have one rotated 90 > degrees and it is about 4:2. > > So what prevents you from making your card size whatever you want? In other > words, why worry about this at all? > > Craig > >> On Dec 1, 2021, at 2:26 PM, David Glasgow via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I have been developing a desktop stack at 1024×760 for a while. Vertical >> space is becoming increasingly cramped, and I need a bit more. I reckon 40 >> pixels would do it. >> >> Obviously that would break the 4:3 ratio. So am I better reconfiguring for >> a completely different screen ratio (if so, which), or just setting the >> stack height to what I need? I remember 1280×800 was common for quite a >> while, but is it still? >> >> I Googled about a bit, but the interweb was full of contradictory advice. >> (Imagine that!) >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> David Glasgow >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: screen resolution and stack height
Hi. The 4:3 ratio, unless I completely do not understand any of this, is not pertinent to a desktop app. It was for viewing film and TV back in the day when there was much less flexibility in display screen technology. Much less. The monitors I see around me are all anything but 4:3. I have one rotated 90 degrees and it is about 4:2. So what prevents you from making your card size whatever you want? In other words, why worry about this at all? Craig > On Dec 1, 2021, at 2:26 PM, David Glasgow via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I have been developing a desktop stack at 1024×760 for a while. Vertical > space is becoming increasingly cramped, and I need a bit more. I reckon 40 > pixels would do it. > > Obviously that would break the 4:3 ratio. So am I better reconfiguring for a > completely different screen ratio (if so, which), or just setting the stack > height to what I need? I remember 1280×800 was common for quite a while, but > is it still? > > I Googled about a bit, but the interweb was full of contradictory advice. > (Imagine that!) > > > Best Wishes, > > David Glasgow > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
screen resolution and stack height
Hi folks, I have been developing a desktop stack at 1024×760 for a while. Vertical space is becoming increasingly cramped, and I need a bit more. I reckon 40 pixels would do it. Obviously that would break the 4:3 ratio. So am I better reconfiguring for a completely different screen ratio (if so, which), or just setting the stack height to what I need? I remember 1280×800 was common for quite a while, but is it still? I Googled about a bit, but the interweb was full of contradictory advice. (Imagine that!) Best Wishes, David Glasgow ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
