LC902 and LC901 Crash with Answer
Hi, anyone had this before? with LC902 community on win10 64bits When i put 25 variables into a variable like this: put "id=" & tId & "&name=" & tN & "&address=" & tA ..and so oninto varSendData half of the variables are ---> encrypted--->base64encoded--->URLencoded then answer varSendData just to check if it is correct what i post to my php middleware LC902 crashes, it's just unresponsive and have to close it via taskmanager Now i did not see this before and it always worked. So deleted preferences file, no luck downloaded LC901, same issue If i uncomment the answer then it works as expected all other answer commands in the script work normally. So is there a limit to what can be shown by the answer command or are the encoded elements the cullprit? I know with normal text you can show a lot. thanks Sphere(Jerry) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC902 and LC901 Crash with Answer
The encoded elements should be OK, if you base64encode() all encrypted or binary data. Sounds like it could be a bug. But what I'd try is writing varSendData to a local file, and doing answer "the data is now in " to see if that works, and to see if there is anything dubious in the variable when written to the file. Alex On 17/02/2019 12:12, JJS via use-livecode wrote: Hi, anyone had this before? with LC902 community on win10 64bits When i put 25 variables into a variable like this: put "id=" & tId & "&name=" & tN & "&address=" & tA ..and so oninto varSendData half of the variables are ---> encrypted--->base64encoded--->URLencoded then answer varSendData just to check if it is correct what i post to my php middleware LC902 crashes, it's just unresponsive and have to close it via taskmanager Now i did not see this before and it always worked. So deleted preferences file, no luck downloaded LC901, same issue If i uncomment the answer then it works as expected all other answer commands in the script work normally. So is there a limit to what can be shown by the answer command or are the encoded elements the cullprit? I know with normal text you can show a lot. thanks Sphere(Jerry) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Lack of Mobile Player callbacks and subtitles problem
Hi all. Anybody been able to get time-locked subtitles for mobile video players that worked in the post-QT era ? My searches have not produced anything. Since there are no callbacks from “MobileCreateControl Player” anymore to kick subtitles in a field from a list at a given time ( like the only available old example on the LC site) , I have tried cumbersome double timers. Simple tracking is then ok, but starting stopping, continuing a movie is way too imprecise and introduces unforeseen results. Anybody come up with a solution ? Anybody up for doing an AV Foundation widget for this (Paid work) ? It’s for a project to teach refugee children if that motivates anybody at all ;-) Greetz from Berlin. Frans Schoffelen http://knowlegistics.com // Software & Sound // Berlin ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC902 and LC901 Crash with Answer
That's a good idea too. Thanks Alex Jerry Op 17-2-2019 om 13:18 schreef Alex Tweedly via use-livecode: The encoded elements should be OK, if you base64encode() all encrypted or binary data. Sounds like it could be a bug. But what I'd try is writing varSendData to a local file, and doing answer "the data is now in " to see if that works, and to see if there is anything dubious in the variable when written to the file. Alex On 17/02/2019 12:12, JJS via use-livecode wrote: Hi, anyone had this before? with LC902 community on win10 64bits When i put 25 variables into a variable like this: put "id=" & tId & "&name=" & tN & "&address=" & tA ..and so oninto varSendData half of the variables are ---> encrypted--->base64encoded--->URLencoded then answer varSendData just to check if it is correct what i post to my php middleware LC902 crashes, it's just unresponsive and have to close it via taskmanager Now i did not see this before and it always worked. So deleted preferences file, no luck downloaded LC901, same issue If i uncomment the answer then it works as expected all other answer commands in the script work normally. So is there a limit to what can be shown by the answer command or are the encoded elements the cullprit? I know with normal text you can show a lot. thanks Sphere(Jerry) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need crash course in Dropbox library
the phxDropbox library is for v1 of the Dropbox API, which has been deprecated what I need is to get a handle of the upload session commands, how do I properly break the file data into seperate sessions, and how do i determine the offset value Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote > Don't know if this works anymore but before i used this: > > > *on*openstack > > *if* thereisnotastack"phxDropboxLib"*then* > > *put*GetPathToFile("phxDropboxLib.livecode") intophxLib > > *start*usingstackphxLib > > *else* *if* "phxDropboxLib"isnotamongthelinesofthestacksinuse*then* > > *start*usingstack"phxDropboxLib" > > *end* *if* > > *--* > > *if* "phxDropboxLib"isnotamongthelinesofthestacksinuse*then* > > *answer*error"Unable to load phxDropboxLib" > > *quit* > > *end* *if* > > *constant*myAppKey = "appappappapp" > > *constant*myAppSec = "secsecsec" > > *constant*myTokKey = "toktoktoktok" > > *constant*myTokSec = "sectoksectok" > > *--* > > *if* notphx_DropboxAvailable() *then* > > *answer*"Dropbox HTTPS connection NOT available" > > *end* *if* > > *get*phx_DropboxInitLib(myAppKey, myAppSec, myTokKey, myTokSec) > > end openCard > > reading > > *put*phx_DropboxReadFile("sandbox", ("/folder/some.txt")) > intoField"Name1"ofcard1 > > writing-- > > *put*phx_DropboxWriteFile("sandbox", ("/folder/some.txt"), "text/html", > true, myName) intofield"udontcme"ofcard1 > > --close--- > > *on*closeStack > > *set*theuTokenKey ofthisstacktoempty > > *set*theuTokenSec ofthisstacktoempty > > *stop*usingstack"phxDropboxLib" > > *close*stack"phxDropboxLib" > > *pass*closeStack > > *end*closeStack > > Op 16-2-2019 om 00:23 schreef pink via use-livecode: >> under the documentation for dropboxUpload, it states it shouldn't be >> used >> for files larger than 150MB, the video files will all be around 800MB >> >> I've been looking through the stack, but cannot find the answers I am >> looking for. SO I am still not clear how I should get my file into pData >> >> and pData is just a chunk of the data? How do I make that chunk out of >> the >> whole and where do I get pOffset from? >> >> >> Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote >>> Hey, pink, thanks for the clarification. >>> First of all, is there a reason why you are doing it this way instead of >>> using dropboxUpload? If you use dropboxUpload you can do it all in one >>> shot. >>> Gerard's stack explains the process and how to use the various commands >>> Doing it the way you are doing it, you would start with sessionStart and >>> then you would repeatedly call sessionAppend >>> pOffset is the length of what you have already sent because there are no >>> guarantees that dropbox will get your file stream in order, so if it >>> gets >>> them out of order and pData isn't the same length for each call to >>> append, >>> the only way dropbox knows where to put the data it just received is if >>> you >>> tell it where to put it. >>> pData should be at most 150mb per call. >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@.runrev >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> Greg (pink) Miller >> mad, pink and dangerous to code >> -- >> Sent from: >> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> > use-livecode@.runrev >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@.runrev > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - --- Greg (pink) Miller mad, pink and dangerous to code -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC902 and LC901 Crash with Answer
That sounds more like a hang rather than a crash, which means LC is involved in a lengthy process that is forbidding any other actions. The answer dialog tries to create html text in order to support text styles. My guess is that it's trying to interpret the random characters in the base64 text as html and is getting stuck in a loop. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On February 17, 2019 6:14:45 AM JJS via use-livecode wrote: Hi, anyone had this before? with LC902 community on win10 64bits When i put 25 variables into a variable like this: put "id=" & tId & "&name=" & tN & "&address=" & tA ..and so oninto varSendData half of the variables are ---> encrypted--->base64encoded--->URLencoded then answer varSendData just to check if it is correct what i post to my php middleware LC902 crashes, it's just unresponsive and have to close it via taskmanager Now i did not see this before and it always worked. So deleted preferences file, no luck downloaded LC901, same issue If i uncomment the answer then it works as expected all other answer commands in the script work normally. So is there a limit to what can be shown by the answer command or are the encoded elements the cullprit? I know with normal text you can show a lot. thanks Sphere(Jerry) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer
Sphere(Jerry) wrote: > anyone had this before? with LC902 community on win10 64bits > > When i put 25 variables into a variable like this: > > put "id=" & tId & "&name=" & tN & "&address=" & tA ..and so > oninto varSendData > > half of the variables are ---> > encrypted--->base64encoded--->URLencoded > > then > > answer varSendData just to check if it is correct what i post to > my php middleware > > LC902 crashes, it's just unresponsive and have to close it via > taskmanager To diagnoses this it may be helpful to see if we can separate the complexities of text rendering from the complexities of modal dialog event loops. What happens if you display that text in a field rather than in an Answer dialog? If the text begins with "" and ends with "" LC will attempt to interpret it as htmlText, as Jacque noted. Is that the case with your data? If so, what happens when you set the htmlText of a field to that data? > Now i did not see this before and it always worked. What changed between the working and non-working states? Different data? Different LC version? Something else? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC902 and LC901 Crash with Answer
That shouldn't be a problem. OP said he was URLencoding after the base64encoding, so all the random HTML characters should be 'protected'. Alex. On 17/02/2019 17:43, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: That sounds more like a hang rather than a crash, which means LC is involved in a lengthy process that is forbidding any other actions. The answer dialog tries to create html text in order to support text styles. My guess is that it's trying to interpret the random characters in the base64 text as html and is getting stuck in a loop. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On February 17, 2019 6:14:45 AM JJS via use-livecode wrote: Hi, anyone had this before? with LC902 community on win10 64bits When i put 25 variables into a variable like this: put "id=" & tId & "&name=" & tN & "&address=" & tA ..and so oninto varSendData half of the variables are ---> encrypted--->base64encoded--->URLencoded then answer varSendData just to check if it is correct what i post to my php middleware LC902 crashes, it's just unresponsive and have to close it via taskmanager Now i did not see this before and it always worked. So deleted preferences file, no luck downloaded LC901, same issue If i uncomment the answer then it works as expected all other answer commands in the script work normally. So is there a limit to what can be shown by the answer command or are the encoded elements the cullprit? I know with normal text you can show a lot. thanks Sphere(Jerry) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: LC902 and LC901 Crash with Answer
I've seen this when you try too display much data in an answer(or ask). You can usually get out of it if you key a "Return"(or two-tree). At that point save and restart IDE(not usually necessary but "the ctrl S"s get more frequent for sure). I did not report this because I was displaying an obscene amount of data by mistake. You might have reached my afore mentioned "obscene amount of data" in an answer dialog. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of JJS via use-livecode Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 7:13 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: JJS Subject: LC902 and LC901 Crash with Answer Hi, anyone had this before? with LC902 community on win10 64bits When i put 25 variables into a variable like this: put "id=" & tId & "&name=" & tN & "&address=" & tA ..and so oninto varSendData half of the variables are ---> encrypted--->base64encoded--->URLencoded then answer varSendData just to check if it is correct what i post to my php middleware LC902 crashes, it's just unresponsive and have to close it via taskmanager Now i did not see this before and it always worked. So deleted preferences file, no luck downloaded LC901, same issue If i uncomment the answer then it works as expected all other answer commands in the script work normally. So is there a limit to what can be shown by the answer command or are the encoded elements the cullprit? I know with normal text you can show a lot. thanks Sphere(Jerry) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)
Hi everyone, i guess Ralph is correct as it probably too much data to display. If it is just one variable with encr-->base64enc-->URLenc then there seems to be no problem. That's probably why have not seen this before, but i used the answer with these 25 variables also before and maybe it was 9.0. But as i also tested with 9.01 and had the same result i did not test with 9.0. No the data is not surrounded by . Indeed it's rather a hang than a crash (crash would most probably unload LC, but it stays unresponsive) The answer does show the data, then when hitting Return as i don't see the OK it hangs. Solution is then probably to not show to much strange data with the answer command. Thanks all. Jerry Op 17-2-2019 om 20:51 schreef Ralph DiMola via use-livecode: I've seen this when you try too display much data in an answer(or ask). You can usually get out of it if you key a "Return"(or two-tree). At that point save and restart IDE(not usually necessary but "the ctrl S"s get more frequent for sure). I did not report this because I was displaying an obscene amount of data by mistake. You might have reached my afore mentioned "obscene amount of data" in an answer dialog. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of JJS via use-livecode Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 7:13 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: JJS Subject: LC902 and LC901 Crash with Answer Hi, anyone had this before? with LC902 community on win10 64bits When i put 25 variables into a variable like this: put "id=" & tId & "&name=" & tN & "&address=" & tA ..and so oninto varSendData half of the variables are ---> encrypted--->base64encoded--->URLencoded then answer varSendData just to check if it is correct what i post to my php middleware LC902 crashes, it's just unresponsive and have to close it via taskmanager Now i did not see this before and it always worked. So deleted preferences file, no luck downloaded LC901, same issue If i uncomment the answer then it works as expected all other answer commands in the script work normally. So is there a limit to what can be shown by the answer command or are the encoded elements the cullprit? I know with normal text you can show a lot. thanks Sphere(Jerry) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lack of Mobile Player callbacks and subtitles problem
Does mergAVPlayerCreateBoundaryTimeObserver help you? Peter Bogdanoff > On Feb 17, 2019, at 4:39 AM, Frans Schoffelen via use-livecode > wrote: > > > Hi all. Anybody been able to get time-locked subtitles for mobile video > players > that worked in the post-QT era ? My searches have not produced anything. > > Since there are no callbacks from “MobileCreateControl Player” anymore to > kick subtitles in a field from a list > at a given time ( like the only available old example on the LC site) , I > have tried cumbersome double timers. > Simple tracking is then ok, but starting stopping, continuing a movie is way > too imprecise and introduces unforeseen results. > Anybody come up with a solution ? > > Anybody up for doing an AV Foundation widget for this (Paid work) ? > > It’s for a project to teach refugee children if that motivates anybody at all > ;-) > > Greetz from Berlin. > > > Frans Schoffelen > http://knowlegistics.com // Software & Sound // Berlin > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need crash course in Dropbox library
Hey pink Yes, you are just going to put 150MB at a time into the pData parameter and ship it. I have not uploaded any binary files, just encoded text files, so you may have to fiddle with encoding to make sure you don't get into any trouble. You should be able to open/read the files using put url "binfile:/"&somefilename into fileContents On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 10:42 AM pink via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > the phxDropbox library is for v1 of the Dropbox API, which has been > deprecated > > what I need is to get a handle of the upload session commands, how do I > properly break the file data into seperate sessions, and how do i determine > the offset value > > > Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote > > Don't know if this works anymore but before i used this: > > > > > > *on*openstack > > > > *if* thereisnotastack"phxDropboxLib"*then* > > > > *put*GetPathToFile("phxDropboxLib.livecode") intophxLib > > > > *start*usingstackphxLib > > > > *else* *if* "phxDropboxLib"isnotamongthelinesofthestacksinuse*then* > > > > *start*usingstack"phxDropboxLib" > > > > *end* *if* > > > > *--* > > > > *if* "phxDropboxLib"isnotamongthelinesofthestacksinuse*then* > > > > *answer*error"Unable to load phxDropboxLib" > > > > *quit* > > > > *end* *if* > > > > *constant*myAppKey = "appappappapp" > > > > *constant*myAppSec = "secsecsec" > > > > *constant*myTokKey = "toktoktoktok" > > > > *constant*myTokSec = "sectoksectok" > > > > *--* > > > > *if* notphx_DropboxAvailable() *then* > > > > *answer*"Dropbox HTTPS connection NOT available" > > > > *end* *if* > > > > *get*phx_DropboxInitLib(myAppKey, myAppSec, myTokKey, myTokSec) > > > > end openCard > > > > reading > > > > *put*phx_DropboxReadFile("sandbox", ("/folder/some.txt")) > > intoField"Name1"ofcard1 > > > > writing-- > > > > *put*phx_DropboxWriteFile("sandbox", ("/folder/some.txt"), "text/html", > > true, myName) intofield"udontcme"ofcard1 > > > > --close--- > > > > *on*closeStack > > > > *set*theuTokenKey ofthisstacktoempty > > > > *set*theuTokenSec ofthisstacktoempty > > > > *stop*usingstack"phxDropboxLib" > > > > *close*stack"phxDropboxLib" > > > > *pass*closeStack > > > > *end*closeStack > > > > Op 16-2-2019 om 00:23 schreef pink via use-livecode: > >> under the documentation for dropboxUpload, it states it shouldn't be > >> used > >> for files larger than 150MB, the video files will all be around 800MB > >> > >> I've been looking through the stack, but cannot find the answers I am > >> looking for. SO I am still not clear how I should get my file into pData > >> > >> and pData is just a chunk of the data? How do I make that chunk out of > >> the > >> whole and where do I get pOffset from? > >> > >> > >> Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote > >>> Hey, pink, thanks for the clarification. > >>> First of all, is there a reason why you are doing it this way instead > of > >>> using dropboxUpload? If you use dropboxUpload you can do it all in one > >>> shot. > >>> Gerard's stack explains the process and how to use the various commands > >>> Doing it the way you are doing it, you would start with sessionStart > and > >>> then you would repeatedly call sessionAppend > >>> pOffset is the length of what you have already sent because there are > no > >>> guarantees that dropbox will get your file stream in order, so if it > >>> gets > >>> them out of order and pData isn't the same length for each call to > >>> append, > >>> the only way dropbox knows where to put the data it just received is if > >>> you > >>> tell it where to put it. > >>> pData should be at most 150mb per call. > >>> ___ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode@.runrev > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >>> subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> --- > >> Greg (pink) Miller > >> mad, pink and dangerous to code > >> -- > >> Sent from: > >> > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html > >> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> > > > use-livecode@.runrev > > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@.runrev > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > - > --- > Greg (pink) Miller > mad, pink and dangerous to code > -- > Sent from: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscrib
Re: LC902 and LC901 Hang with Answer (was Crash)
JJS wrote: > i guess Ralph is correct as it probably too much data to display. What is the total length of the data? And what happens when you output it to a field in your stack rather than the field in the Answer dialog? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode