Re: DragDrop for Datagrids

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 8/7/19 4:18 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote:


On Aug 6, 2019, at 3:20 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Nonsense. Every woman knows it's always the man's fault.



We don’t have to take this abuse from you—we have our own wives waiting to 
abuse us!

:)


Just practicing. It keeps me in shape. ;)

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Re: How does OSX tell what app to open when you double click a file?

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On 8/7/19 1:55 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote:

Also, to say something on topic . . . note that OSX is kind of ham-handed on 
file types.  As near as I can tell, you can’t change the default application 
manually without applying to all files of that type at the same time.


The Finder is a little misleading. The drop-down menu changes the 
default app for the selected item. Under the drop-down is a label that 
says "Use this application to open all documents like this one." But 
that applies to the button underneath that says "Change all..."


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Re: Ask Password Icon Issue

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

This was discussed in June with Topic "Black boxes replace images in Mojave 
(Was "No subject")"

This is an excerpt of Mark Waddingham´s comment:
>This is a strange issue as it sounds like it is sporadic...
>The only OS specific code the engine uses when decompressing images is when 
>the image has an embedded colour >profile.
>So I guess the question is whether the images which are ‘breaking’ have such a 
>thing in them. I think preview’s >info pane can tell you that.
>Thus a potential solution is to strip the profiles out (if they are there) and 
>see if the problem persists...

In my case this was the cause.

I´ve dragged the source image to /library/scripts/colorsync/Remove.app to 
remove the color profile and imported it again into LC and added it to the 
stack. After that all was fine.


Regards,
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> Am 08.08.2019 um 19:23 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Okay I figured out where this is coming from. Normally in the IDE the Ask 
> Password dialog uses the Livecode Logo (actually the Blue Indy Icon) for the 
> dialog. But since I am launching it as a standalone, it's using the images 
> specified in the Standalone Settings. 
> 
> Now I have to figure out why it's black. There were some posts a while back 
> about this, but I forgot what the solution was. I'll poke around a bit. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:14 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all. 
>> 
>> In a Mac OS standalone I have a login stack. When I issue the command ask 
>> password clear "Enter password" as sheet, the Icon is MY Sly Laboratories 
>> custom logo, only all filled in black! I'm not sure why. Nothing in my code 
>> does anything of the sort. In fact I have no idea HOW to do that! (Although 
>> if I DID have some idea, I would probably make use of it.) 
>> 
>> Any ideas??
>> 
>> Bob S
> 
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Ask Password Icon Issue

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Hi all. 

In a Mac OS standalone I have a login stack. When I issue the command ask 
password clear "Enter password" as sheet, the Icon is MY Sly Laboratories 
custom logo, only all filled in black! I'm not sure why. Nothing in my code 
does anything of the sort. In fact I have no idea HOW to do that! (Although if 
I DID have some idea, I would probably make use of it.) 

Any ideas??

Bob S


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Re: Any recommendation which GitHub client to use for Livecode contributions?

[Martin Koob via use-livecode]

I have been using Sourcetree  on a Mac. When I started with it I was totally 
new to git and it got me thru as I learned.  

Martin

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> On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have not used it yet, but I have been considering Sourcetree because I work 
> best with visualization and clear workflow opportunities. 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I use SourceTree.  It also has a Windows version.
>> www.sourcetreeapp.com
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>>> On Aug 8, 2019, 9:52 AM -0400, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>> , wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> there are currently 25 GitHub Gui Clients for Mac OS listed at 
>>> https://git-scm.com/download/gui/mac 
>>> 
>>> Are there any recommendations which one should be used for Mac for LC 
>>> contributions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> 
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Re: Any recommendation which GitHub client to use for Livecode contributions?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Okay, 3 in a row for Sourcetree, so i think i will use it, too.

Thanks to all for your answers.

Regards,

Matthias

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> Am 08.08.2019 um 17:47 schrieb Martin Koob via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> I have been using Sourcetree  on a Mac. When I started with it I was totally 
> new to git and it got me thru as I learned.  
> 
> Martin
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have not used it yet, but I have been considering Sourcetree because I 
>> work best with visualization and clear workflow opportunities. 
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use SourceTree.  It also has a Windows version.
>>> www.sourcetreeapp.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian
 On Aug 8, 2019, 9:52 AM -0400, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
 mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>, 
 wrote:
 Hi,
 
 there are currently 25 GitHub Gui Clients for Mac OS listed at 
 https://git-scm.com/download/gui/mac 
  
 >
 
 Are there any recommendations which one should be used for Mac for LC 
 contributions?
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ask Password Icon Issue

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Okay I figured out where this is coming from. Normally in the IDE the Ask 
Password dialog uses the Livecode Logo (actually the Blue Indy Icon) for the 
dialog. But since I am launching it as a standalone, it's using the images 
specified in the Standalone Settings. 

Now I have to figure out why it's black. There were some posts a while back 
about this, but I forgot what the solution was. I'll poke around a bit. 

Bob S


> On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:14 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. 
> 
> In a Mac OS standalone I have a login stack. When I issue the command ask 
> password clear "Enter password" as sheet, the Icon is MY Sly Laboratories 
> custom logo, only all filled in black! I'm not sure why. Nothing in my code 
> does anything of the sort. In fact I have no idea HOW to do that! (Although 
> if I DID have some idea, I would probably make use of it.) 
> 
> Any ideas??
> 
> Bob S


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Re: Ask Password Icon Issue

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

That was it! Thanks Matthias! 

Bob S


> On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:23 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Okay I figured out where this is coming from. Normally in the IDE the Ask 
> Password dialog uses the Livecode Logo (actually the Blue Indy Icon) for the 
> dialog. But since I am launching it as a standalone, it's using the images 
> specified in the Standalone Settings. 
> 
> Now I have to figure out why it's black. There were some posts a while back 
> about this, but I forgot what the solution was. I'll poke around a bit. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:14 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all. 
>> 
>> In a Mac OS standalone I have a login stack. When I issue the command ask 
>> password clear "Enter password" as sheet, the Icon is MY Sly Laboratories 
>> custom logo, only all filled in black! I'm not sure why. Nothing in my code 
>> does anything of the sort. In fact I have no idea HOW to do that! (Although 
>> if I DID have some idea, I would probably make use of it.) 
>> 
>> Any ideas??
>> 
>> Bob S
> 
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Re: Any recommendation which GitHub client to use for Livecode contributions?

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On 8/8/19 10:50 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Okay, 3 in a row for Sourcetree, so i think i will use it, too.


I'm a commandline kinda guy, so the gui things don't interest me much. 
But I've looked at sourcetree before and it looked good. I've also been 
impressed by the demos I've gotten of gitkraken, so I should probably 
put in a good word for them as well.


https://www.gitkraken.com/

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Re: Should the scope of WholeMatches be expanded?

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On 8/8/2019 5:18 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote:

On Aug 5, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:

I'd like to see wholeMatches apply to:



Gee, that would do just what I need in searches . . . and the check is already 
there, and applies in the IDE search/replace feature . . .

hmmm . . .

set the whole matches to true
repeat while wordOffset(searchText, theSearchStrng) > 0
   put replacmentText into word wordOffset(searchText, theSearchStrng) of 
theSearchString
end repeat




Except in the replacement searching I'd like to do, I am searching and 
replacing phrases bounded by white space (tab, space, non-breaking 
space, line break, etc.) so wordOffset will not work for me.


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Re: Should the scope of WholeMatches be expanded?

[Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode]

On Aug 5, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> I'd like to see wholeMatches apply to:



Gee, that would do just what I need in searches . . . and the check is already 
there, and applies in the IDE search/replace feature . . .

hmmm . . .

set the whole matches to true
repeat while wordOffset(searchText, theSearchStrng) > 0
  put replacmentText into word wordOffset(searchText, theSearchStrng) of 
theSearchString
end repeat

???

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Re: Any recommendation which GitHub client to use for Livecode contributions?

[Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode]

I have not used it yet, but I have been considering Sourcetree because I work 
best with visualization and clear workflow opportunities. 

> On Aug 8, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I use SourceTree.  It also has a Windows version.
> www.sourcetreeapp.com
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On Aug 8, 2019, 9:52 AM -0400, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> , wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> there are currently 25 GitHub Gui Clients for Mac OS listed at 
>> https://git-scm.com/download/gui/mac 
>> 
>> Are there any recommendations which one should be used for Mac for LC 
>> contributions?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> 
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Fwd: Re: How does OSX tell what app to open when you double click a file?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

Thank you,

This article could allow me to have our OSX app check to see if it is 
the default on startup and change it IF the command line tool "duti" 
used the example was already part of OSX but is an open source that 
would need to also be installed with out app - an additional level of 
overhead I'd rather avoid. However, again thanks as this points me in a 
possible direction of ignoring HOW OSX figure it out by default and 
trying to just tell OSX which app should rule.



On 8/6/2019 4:57 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I found this. Didn't read too deep tho'.

https://www.chainsawonatireswing.com/2012/09/19/changing-default-applications-on-a-mac-using-the-command-line-then-a-shell-script/#find-out-the-current-default-for-an-extension

Bob S


On Aug 6, 2019, at 13:36 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:


So we make an OSX desktop app in LiveCode that has several document 
types. We add these to the info.plist file in the App bundle so they 
are defined, with doc icons, extensions, types, etc.


If a user has APPv1 installed that has a plist entry for the file 
extension .myext and then installs APPv2 that also has a plist entry 
for file extension .myext. how does OSX tell what APP to open when a 
user double clicks on document.myext?



I googled and found information on setting default app for document 
types, but not how OSX handles this by default?


In window, it is the App's responsibility to check the Registry for 
its document types and, it it wants to, ask the user if they want 
those document associated with it. Or it is done by the app's 
installer on Windows


I just can't find how OSX does it.


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Any recommendation which GitHub client to use for Livecode contributions?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,

there are currently 25 GitHub Gui Clients for Mac OS listed  at 
https://git-scm.com/download/gui/mac 

Are there any recommendations which one should be used for Mac for LC 
contributions?


Regards,

Matthias





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Re: How does OSX tell what app to open when you double click a file?

[David V Glasgow via use-livecode]

Hah! The devil is in the last line. (not to mention that the criteria don’t 
seem to match what actually happens)

> On 8 Aug 2019, at 12:34 pm, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 8/6/2019 10:10 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
>> On 2019-08-06 23:59, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
>>> For example, if you drag installed 5 apps, APP1, 2, 3, etc, that all
>>> had a info.plist defintion for a .xyz file extension onto a virgin OSX
>>> system out of the box and then double-clicked a .wyz file, which of
>>> the 5 would open?
>> 
>> I *think* the answer to this question probably lies here:
>> 
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Carbon/Conceptual/LaunchServicesConcepts/LSCConcepts/LSCConcepts.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP3999-CH202-TP9
>>  
>> 
>> The sections on 'Application Registration' and 'Preferred Applications' are 
>> probably the most pertinent - although it isn't entirely clear how the two 
>> mechanisms co-exist: registration suggests the 'most recent' modification 
>> time wise app is stored against a file kind, but preferred applications 
>> suggests that multiple apps are stored but the newest CFBundleVersion wise 
>> is chosen.
>> 
>> Warmest Regards,
>> 
>> Mark.
>> 
> 
> Thank you again!
> 
> This section of that web page was exactly what I was looking for:
> 
> 
> Preferred Application for a Document
> 
> For individual document files (whether specified by a file-system reference 
> or a URL with scheme |file|), the criteria are as follows:
> 
> 1.
> 
>   If the user has specified an explicit binding for the document (or
>   for the entire document type to which it belongs), the preferred
>   application is the one the user has specified.
> 
> 2.
> 
>   If the document has a filename extension (or if one has been
>   specified as a parameter to |LSGetApplicationForInfo|), find all
>   applications in the Launch Services database that claim to accept
>   documents with that extension.
> 
> 3.
> 
>   If the document carries a four-character file type (or if one has
>   been specified as a parameter), find all applications that claim to
>   accept files of that type.
> 
> 4.
> 
>   If more than one application has been found as a result of steps
>   2–3, apply the following criteria in the order shown:
> 
>1.
> 
>   If the document carries a four-character creator signature (or
>   if one has been specified as a parameter), give preference to
>   any application that claims to accept documents with that
>   signature (typically the application to which the signature
>   belongs).
> 
>2.
> 
>   Give preference to native OS X applications over those that run
>   in the Classic emulation environment.
> 
>3.
> 
>   Give preference to applications residing on the boot volume over
>   those residing on other file-system volumes.
> 
>4.
> 
>   Give preference to applications residing on a local volume over
>   those residing on a remote volume.
> 
>5.
> 
>   If two or more versions of the same application have been found,
>   give preference to the one with the latest version number as
>   identified by |CFBundleVersion
>   
> |.
> 
> If two or more candidate applications remain after all of the foregoing 
> criteria have been applied, Launch Services chooses one of the remaining 
> applications in an unspecified manner.
> 
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Re: How does OSX tell what app to open when you double click a file?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 8/6/2019 10:10 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

On 2019-08-06 23:59, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

For example, if you drag installed 5 apps, APP1, 2, 3, etc, that all
had a info.plist defintion for a .xyz file extension onto a virgin OSX
system out of the box and then double-clicked a .wyz file, which of
the 5 would open?


I *think* the answer to this question probably lies here:

https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Carbon/Conceptual/LaunchServicesConcepts/LSCConcepts/LSCConcepts.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP3999-CH202-TP9 



The sections on 'Application Registration' and 'Preferred 
Applications' are probably the most pertinent - although it isn't 
entirely clear how the two mechanisms co-exist: registration suggests 
the 'most recent' modification time wise app is stored against a file 
kind, but preferred applications suggests that multiple apps are 
stored but the newest CFBundleVersion wise is chosen.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.



Thank you again!

This section of that web page was exactly what I was looking for:


 Preferred Application for a Document

For individual document files (whether specified by a file-system 
reference or a URL with scheme |file|), the criteria are as follows:


1.

   If the user has specified an explicit binding for the document (or
   for the entire document type to which it belongs), the preferred
   application is the one the user has specified.

2.

   If the document has a filename extension (or if one has been
   specified as a parameter to |LSGetApplicationForInfo|), find all
   applications in the Launch Services database that claim to accept
   documents with that extension.

3.

   If the document carries a four-character file type (or if one has
   been specified as a parameter), find all applications that claim to
   accept files of that type.

4.

   If more than one application has been found as a result of steps
   2–3, apply the following criteria in the order shown:

1.

   If the document carries a four-character creator signature (or
   if one has been specified as a parameter), give preference to
   any application that claims to accept documents with that
   signature (typically the application to which the signature
   belongs).

2.

   Give preference to native OS X applications over those that run
   in the Classic emulation environment.

3.

   Give preference to applications residing on the boot volume over
   those residing on other file-system volumes.

4.

   Give preference to applications residing on a local volume over
   those residing on a remote volume.

5.

   If two or more versions of the same application have been found,
   give preference to the one with the latest version number as
   identified by |CFBundleVersion
   
|.

If two or more candidate applications remain after all of the foregoing 
criteria have been applied, Launch Services chooses one of the remaining 
applications in an unspecified manner.



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Re: Any recommendation which GitHub client to use for Livecode contributions?

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

I use SourceTree.  It also has a Windows version.
www.sourcetreeapp.com


Thanks,
Brian
On Aug 8, 2019, 9:52 AM -0400, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there are currently 25 GitHub Gui Clients for Mac OS listed at 
> https://git-scm.com/download/gui/mac 
>
> Are there any recommendations which one should be used for Mac for LC 
> contributions?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Rebbe
>
> free tools for Livecoders:
> InstaMaker 
> WinSignMaker Mac 
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