memory management

2014-05-05 Thread larry
If I load a large file into a variable, I believe the variable is stored in 
RAM, right?

When I am finished using the variable, how do I remove it from memory?

TIA
Larry
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import snapshot

2014-05-05 Thread larry
I am importing a snapshot from an image object.  LC places the snapshot (to my 
specified size) in a new image object in the middle of my stack.
But how do I programatically know what the name of the newly created image 
object is?  (so I can then do stuff to it)

TIA
Larry
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copying an image

2014-05-05 Thread larry
I'm using 6.1.1 (rc 4)

I cannot figure out how to copy an image (that is imported into my stack) to 
the clipboard

I am using;

copy image myImage


And the image does not end up in the clipboard
Nothing, nada, zip, zilch

TIA
Larry
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Re: import snapshot

2014-05-05 Thread larry

Thank you John and Richmond
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: import snapshot



on mouseUp
   import snapshot from graphic ggg
   set the name of last image to XYZ
end mouseUp

Richmond.

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Re: copying an image

2014-05-05 Thread larry
Hello Jacqueline,

Thanks for trying to help, but I am still lost.  I used your:
  put the clipboarddata[image]
in a variety of ways, but could not make it work.  The dictionary says set the 
clipboardData...  not put.


Then I used this code in a button:

on mouseUp

set the clipboardData[image] to image myLastImage

put the clipboard

end mouseUp



The message box pops up saying image

BUT, I still having nothing on my Windows (XP) clipboard!!



I can copy from just about any other application on my computer, but not from 
LiveCode.

sadly, Larry



- Original Message - 
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: copying an image


 On 5/5/14, 5:50 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
 I'm using 6.1.1 (rc 4)

 I cannot figure out how to copy an image (that is imported into my
 stack) to the clipboard

 I am using;

 copy image myImage


 And the image does not end up in the clipboard Nothing, nada, zip,
 zilch
 
 It should be there, but since it isn't text you need to use the expanded 
 clipboard syntax:
 
   put the clipboarddata[image]
 
 will give you the binary data. If you ask for the type of content in the 
 clipboard:
 
  put the clipboard
 
 it should say objects. You can paste the image, or set the imagedata 
 of another image to the clipboarddata[image].
 
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Re: copying an image

2014-05-05 Thread larry
Thanks Jacquelin,

I'm still in coding kindergarten and need everything spelled out!

Not until you mentioned that the ability to paste elsewhere would depend on the 
receiving app's ability, did I even think about that.  I just go around 
assuming that everything is supposed to work right.  So copy img 1 works 
fine and I can paste into Microsoft Word with no problem.  However, my email 
program, Outlook Express, (also from Microsoft) will not recognize the img 
being on the clipboard.  I had been using Outlook Express to test the pasting, 
not even thinking that it lacks the ability.  And that is the eternal question: 
 Why would Microsoft program Word with the ability to paste the copy, but not 
program their email app, Outlook Express, to also paste the copy?

A person could go crazy trying to answer that question, so I won't bother. (and 
anyway, a lot of people think I'm already half-way there!)

Thanks again for helping me figure out what was going on!!
Larry

 
 It works with either of these:
 
 copy img 1
 set the clipboarddata[image] to img 1
 
 So maybe we need a way to specify that only a certain format should be 
 included in the image content. I would guess the ability to paste 
 elsewhere would depend on the receiving app's ability to separate the 
 two formats and choose one. Graphic Converter is good that way, it puts 
 up a dialog and asks which one to use.
 
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Re: copying an image

2014-05-05 Thread larry

you're right.  let's (you) write an app to fix all that

- Original Message - 
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: copying an image



On 5/5/14, 12:35 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

And that is the eternal question:  Why would Microsoft program Word
with the ability to paste the copy, but not program their email app,
Outlook Express, to also paste the copy?


It's sort of like the European Union or the United States -- lots of 
different subdivisions under the same canopy, but none of them agree with 
each other.


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Re: copying an image

2014-05-05 Thread larry

Hello Richmond,
That is what really threw me.  Outlook Express accepts copy/paste from other 
programs, notably ACDC, a photo organizer software that I use all the time.


I haven't really tried it with too many other programs.  The bottom line is 
that Word accepts from LC and Outlook Express does not.  Weird to me.


One day (probably long after I'm dead) computer software will come out of 
the dark ages and into the light.

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: copying an image



On 05/05/14 22:22, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

you're right.  let's (you) write an app to fix all that


If you can fix the European Union you should have everybody clamouring at 
your door!


Richmond.

By-ther-way: have you found out whether Outlook Express will accept copied 
images from other programs?


My experience with copying stuff from Livecode to external programs has 
been erratic.


I use Linux as my main OS, and have found that copying from Livecode will 
allow me
to paste elsewhere if the copying was done by mousing up to the 'Edit' 
menu, but not by

doing Ctrl-C, and not by a Copy from a right mouse contextual menu.

snip

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Re: Windows 8 and 8.1

2014-05-22 Thread larry

I built a standalone with the old Rev 2.9 that works fine on Windows 8.
I'm not 100% sure if it works on 8.1, but I think so (I think one of my sons 
has 8.1)

Hope that helps!

- Original Message - 
From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:03 PM
Subject: Windows 8 and 8.1



Do Livecode standalones work on Winodws 8 and 8.1?

And, if so, can you tell me what is the earliest version of Livecode that
produces standalones that work on these systems?

Richmond.

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please help!!

2014-06-07 Thread larry
I am using 6.1.1 (rc 4) on XP

I have spent HOURS trying to do something that seems fairly simple.

I have a column of buttons labeled tile11, tile12, etc

After I label the buttons, they are all alpha-numeric characters except for one 
being labeled ?

Then I call up the following command:

on doOpaque

put 0 into x

repeat rowNum times

put x + 1 into x

put (tile1  x) into thisButton

if the label of button thisButton = ? then

set the opaque of button thisButton to true

else

set the opaque of button thisButton to false

end if

end repeat

end doOpaque



If I debug and step through it, it always seems to work.  However if I just run 
it, it invariably sets the opaque of the ? button to false and some other 
button (NOT ?) to true.

I'm really going crazy with this and would appreciate it if anyone knows why 
this is happening.

Thanks in advance, Larry
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Re: please help!!

2014-06-07 Thread larry

Thank you Randy, but that's not the case here.
After I got your email, I triple checked.  It's something else going on.

- Original Message - 
From: Randy Hengst iowahen...@mac.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: please help!!



When I've had similar problems I had multiple buttons with the same name.



On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:41 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

I am using 6.1.1 (rc 4) on XP

I have spent HOURS trying to do something that seems fairly simple.

I have a column of buttons labeled tile11, tile12, etc

After I label the buttons, they are all alpha-numeric characters except 
for one being labeled ?


Then I call up the following command:

on doOpaque

put 0 into x

repeat rowNum times

put x + 1 into x

put (tile1  x) into thisButton

if the label of button thisButton = ? then

set the opaque of button thisButton to true

else

set the opaque of button thisButton to false

end if

end repeat

end doOpaque



If I debug and step through it, it always seems to work.  However if I 
just run it, it invariably sets the opaque of the ? button to false and 
some other button (NOT ?) to true.


I'm really going crazy with this and would appreciate it if anyone knows 
why this is happening.


Thanks in advance, Larry
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Re: please help!!

2014-06-07 Thread larry

hey Paul,
I changed it to contains (as you suggested) and now it works.  Thanks. 
Still seems like a bug to me since I KNOW that I don't have a space or 
return or anything in the name.


2) I was not aware that RC versions are not necessarily considered stable. 
I had kept using that version, because just about every time I upgraded to a 
new version I had some new problems.


Do you recommend any newer version as truly stable?  Unfortunately, my 
experience with LC is that I just trade one set of problems for a newer set 
of problems.

Thanks,
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: please help!!


Larry, it seems to work fine here, I tried LC 6.1.3 as I don't keep RC 
versions, but I'm also on a Mac, however, at least it proves the script 
sample is fine.


Just a thought, could the label of button ? also have a space or return 
char in the name?


Maybe try swapping the = for contains

e.g. if the label of button thisButton contains ? then

Paul


On 2014-06-07, at 8:39 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


Thank you Randy, but that's not the case here.
After I got your email, I triple checked.  It's something else going on.

- Original Message - From: Randy Hengst iowahen...@mac.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: please help!!


When I've had similar problems I had multiple buttons with the same 
name.




On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:41 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

I am using 6.1.1 (rc 4) on XP

I have spent HOURS trying to do something that seems fairly simple.

I have a column of buttons labeled tile11, tile12, etc

After I label the buttons, they are all alpha-numeric characters except 
for one being labeled ?


Then I call up the following command:

on doOpaque

put 0 into x

repeat rowNum times

put x + 1 into x

put (tile1  x) into thisButton

if the label of button thisButton = ? then

set the opaque of button thisButton to true

else

set the opaque of button thisButton to false

end if

end repeat

end doOpaque



If I debug and step through it, it always seems to work.  However if I 
just run it, it invariably sets the opaque of the ? button to false 
and some other button (NOT ?) to true.


I'm really going crazy with this and would appreciate it if anyone 
knows why this is happening.


Thanks in advance, Larry
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Re: please help!!

2014-06-07 Thread larry

You have all been very kind in trying to help me.
Right now, I am completely disillusioned with LiveCode.
I've wasted an entire day trying everything I could think of and everything 
you all have suggested.
I cannot get it to work consistently.  I mean I cannot get the error 
consistently and, much worse, I cannot get the program to behave as it 
should.
Probably I will go learn some other program because I have had way too many 
of these sessions where LiveCode just lets me down.

All the people on this list have been extremely wonderful and helpful.
Right now I am too frustrated and tired to keep going.
Thank you all.

- Original Message - 
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: please help!!



On 6/7/2014, 11:55 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

What happens if you omit the rowNum variable in the repeat loop:

repeat with x = 1 to rowNum
  put (tile1  x) into thisButton
  set the opaque of btn thisButton to (the label of btn thisButton = ?)
end repeat


Which obviously I didn't. I meant to just test a different type of repeat 
structure, but I don't really think it's going to make any difference. But 
do double-check that the button names and labels match.


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Re: please help!!

2014-06-08 Thread larry

Hello Jacqueline,
You are incredibly kind!
I did rest up and then started over this morning.  I went back to my 
original stack before this latest problem and just rebuilt it from scratch.

I don't know that I did anything differently, but now it works just fine.
Every once in awhile I will get the most random error message when running a 
program, but it never seems to ultimately matter.
That is one of my frustrations with LiveCode.  And as you point out, it's 
going to be hard to learning any new language.

So, for today, I am tired but moving on.
Maybe you'll give me a rain check to look at one of my stacks in the future?
Thank you again,
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: please help!!



On 6/8/2014, 12:41 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

Right now I am too frustrated and tired to keep going.


Yeah, been there. It's normal but it's really frustrating. Learning a new 
language is hard, no matter which one you choose.


Send me your stack if you want and I can probably tell you where it's 
going off the rails. But rest up first.


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which release do you recommend?

2014-06-09 Thread larry
Hello All,

I'm still getting some very weird behavior with the compiled program using 
Windows XP and 6.1.1 (rc4) - behavior that doesn't show up in the IDE, but does 
show up in the compiled.

Do you have a recommendation as to any later release that would be more stable?

TIA
Larry
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which is faster for searching?

2014-06-17 Thread larry
I have a large variable containing about 3000 lines of data - each line about 
100 characters.

I want to search through the variable and find all the lines that contain a 
specified string

Should I use (repeatedly) lineoffset..., or should I use repeat for each 
line...  or maybe some other faster way?

Or with only 3000 lines of data, does it even matter?

TIA
Larry
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Re: which is faster for searching?

2014-06-17 Thread larry

Thanks to Mark and jbv for the good advice.
I ended up using the for each line... since that was easy and fast
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: j...@souslelogo.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: which is faster for searching?



Larry,

repeat for each line... is definitely faster

and

  repeat for each line j in myVar
 if j contains myText then
 end if
  end repeat

should be pretty fast.

jbv



I have a large variable containing about 3000 lines of data - each line
about 100 characters.

I want to search through the variable and find all the lines that contain
a specified string

Should I use (repeatedly) lineoffset..., or should I use repeat for
each line...  or maybe some other faster way?

Or with only 3000 lines of data, does it even matter?

TIA
Larry
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Re: which is faster for searching?

2014-06-17 Thread larry

Thanks Pete,
Which version exactly is it?
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: which is faster for searching?



You might want to try the filter command too, especially the new version
that has a lot more options including the ability to put the qualifying
lines into a different container.

Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html


On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:22 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


I have a large variable containing about 3000 lines of data - each line
about 100 characters.

I want to search through the variable and find all the lines that contain
a specified string

Should I use (repeatedly) lineoffset..., or should I use repeat for
each line...  or maybe some other faster way?

Or with only 3000 lines of data, does it even matter?

TIA
Larry
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Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread larry

I've said it before and I'll say it again:
I wish RunRev would allow me to add MY OWN notes to the Dictionary.
That way, when I read something useful here or discover some workaround on 
my own, I can add it how I want to the IDE dictionary and not have to try 
and remember where I last read it or how I last did it.
It infuriates me that RunRev as a company (as far as I know) has never 
addressed this issue, never commented on it.  Good documentation is the bane 
of most software and all I'm asking is that RunRev allow me to upgrade the 
documentation on my own.
I know there are some out there who have created some sort of workaround. 
That is not what I want.
I want the simple common-sense feature of being able to add MY OWN notes to 
the Dictionary.
I do not think such a request is unreasonable.  Even as an amateur 
programmer, I know it is not that difficult for someone to do. Since I AM an 
amateur programmer, I cannot do it.
I wish RunRev would shore up their existing project before moving on to 
other stuff.

Just my opinion, so please don't flame me.
Larry

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From: Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: Maiden speech from an old man



On 25/07/2014 16:24, Richmond wrote (my emphasis added):


From my point of view the *only thing that is an advantage* of the 
Use-List is that messages come sequentially: one doesn't have to keep 
hunting through the sections of the Forums to find out

whether new posting are there.

What more advantage does anyone need ?

It's beyond me how anyone can be bothered with the forums (which makes me 
wonder if what I need for the forums is a Forums for Dummies guide).


How do you tell which forums and/or which topics have posts you haven't 
read yet ?
How do you tell which forums and/or which topics have posts you have newly 
arrived ?

(Yes, those are two different questions).

How do you set it up so that each morning (while you drink your coffee), 
you laptop will download all the new posts and have them (already 
identified as above) ready for you to read (i.e. while offline) ?


How do you compose a reply while offline ? (No, writing a reply in an 
editor or email and then copying/pasting won't count).


If I could solve those questions then I might have a chance of sticking to 
using the forums for more than a couple of days. The topic comes up ever 
so often, I go look at the forums, see ow much good stuff there is in 
there, swear to myself I will use them and try to keep up - and within a 
week I've lapsed because it is just too time consuming and frustrating.


So - is there a beginner's guide ?

-- Alex.

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Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread larry

Thank you Richard for the information.
If I had the knowledge, I'd write the plugin myself and just give it away.
But I've never had any formal programming training.
The thing that I LOVE about LiveCode the most is that it is such an easy way 
for a person to learn programming concepts AND fairly quickly start creating 
actual programs that do something.
So, I am echoing Richard in saying that I wish someone with the ability 
would create a plugin allowing us to add notes to the Dictionary.
AND if there is anything I could do to help with that project, please let me 
know.

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Maiden speech from an old man



larry wrote:


I've said it before and I'll say it again: I wish RunRev would allow
me to add MY OWN notes to the Dictionary.


I've said it before* and I'll say it again:
I wish anyone here wanted this sort of notebook badly enough to just
write it as a plugin.

I appreciate your submitting an enhancement request for this:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10887

That's a necessary first step, and given sufficient resources I'm sure
the team would love to add that themselves.

But with LC being open source, RunRev has a sizable full-time staff
working on a tool that is given away for free to a majority of its
users.  Right now the main priorities are completing the features
already on their plate, so anything like this is unlikely to be
actionable for many months.

Open source software is a wonderful gift, but it works best when it
creates a gift economy in which everyone who relies on LiveCode
considers what they want from the platform, find those things they can
take care of themselves, and then do it.

We've seen some great strides in this budding open source process
already, with many new features and enhancements brought to the engine
through contributions from Monte Goulding, Jan Schenkel, Mark Wieder,
and many others, and I'm pleased to report that as of this morning all
of the IDE FIX items have been confirmed and folded into the main
branch for the next build - thanks to Mike Kerner, Mark Wieder, and others 
for providing those.


As you wrote:

I wish RunRev would shore up their existing project
before moving on to other stuff.


That's very much their focus.

Which is why I find suggestions like yours potentially exciting 
opportunities for the community to take care of the simpler things that 
can be done outside of the main branch.


A notebook plugin that ties in with the Dictionary wouldn't take long to 
make, and for those who want it would be a nice thing to have and share.


If anyone here has sufficient interest in starting this project I'd be 
happy to make a section in the forums where your team can flesh it out and 
see it through to completion.




Just my opinion, so please don't flame me. Larry


On the contrary, it's a good suggestion and an excellent example of the 
sorts of things we as a community can do for ourselves to get immediate 
results now, leaving the core dev team to complete their engine 
commitments.



* http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2014-March/199733.html

--
 Richard Gaskin
 LiveCode Community Manager
 rich...@livecode.org

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Re: RevOnline User Comments in the Dictionary

2014-07-27 Thread larry

Hello Peter,
I went to your link below.
I see what appears to be a LiveCode stack.
Do I have to compile that before I put in the plugins folder?
Sorry, I'm a VERY newbie.
Thanks,
Larry



 OK, here's a quick-and-dirty plugin called LCdictPlugin. Pop it into
your plugins folder and restart LC.

I realized that with my original plugin it's impossible to tell if you
have a user note for a given dictionary entry without checking each entry
every time with a right-click. So I've revised the plugin. It now places 
a
button at the top of your revDictionary window (actually a palette 
stack

that moves with the dictionary stack) labeled user note. The label
appears in red if you have an existing note, and in black if you don't.
Click on the button to see/enter/edit your note. (No popup needed, so
popChoose is no longer part of the plugin.)

still available at:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3504108/LCdictPlugin.livecode




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Re: RevOnline User Comments in the Dictionary

2014-07-27 Thread larry

OK, thanks Peter.
I'll wait for the improvements.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: RevOnline  User Comments in the Dictionary



On Jul 27, 2014, at 2:21 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


Hello Peter,
I went to your link below.
I see what appears to be a LiveCode stack.
Do I have to compile that before I put in the plugins folder?
Sorry, I'm a VERY newbie.


No, just drop it into your plugins folder and restart LC. On the Mac these 
days the plugins folder is within the LiveCode app package (LiveCode 
xxx.app/Contents/Tools/Plugins/). On Windows the plugins folder should be 
visible with no hassle.


You might want to wait for the finished product (see Peter Hayworth's 
suggestions and improvements). Hopefully in a few days.


-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
pmb...@gmail.com
http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig


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sending data somehow...

2014-08-05 Thread larry
I read the following lesson:
http://lessons.runrev.com/m/4071/l/13197-how-do-i-create-an-html-e-mail

Supposedly this only works if Thunderbird is the default email client.

Does anyone know if there is a way to send an email from a stack if Thunderbird 
is NOT the default email client?


ACTUALLY, what I want to do is this:
create some data in a stack
send that data (by email or whatever) to another person who has a stack that 
imports the data and makes use of it.

Can that be done?

TIA
Larry
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Re: sending data somehow...

2014-08-06 Thread larry

Hi Simon,
Thanks - I will look into those links.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Simon Smith he...@simonsmith.co

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: sending data somehow...



Hi Larry

Take a look at the SMTP stack on
http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=All

I have used http://commandlinesendmail.blogspot.com/ though in the past
(windows only)

Simon


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:37 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


I read the following lesson:
http://lessons.runrev.com/m/4071/l/13197-how-do-i-create-an-html-e-mail

Supposedly this only works if Thunderbird is the default email client.

Does anyone know if there is a way to send an email from a stack if
Thunderbird is NOT the default email client?


ACTUALLY, what I want to do is this:
create some data in a stack
send that data (by email or whatever) to another person who has a stack
that imports the data and makes use of it.

Can that be done?

TIA
Larry
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Re: sending data somehow...

2014-08-06 Thread larry

Hi Skip,
Yes, I'd like to learn more about that technique.
Please send more info.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel s...@magicgate.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: sending data somehow...


In Windows, I also use a VBScript technique that sends stuff out through 
my

Outlook client without any interaction.

Just a thought if you want to go down that route

SKIP


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


Hi Simon,
Thanks - I will look into those links.
Larry

- Original Message - From: Simon Smith he...@simonsmith.co
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: sending data somehow...



 Hi Larry


Take a look at the SMTP stack on
http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=All

I have used http://commandlinesendmail.blogspot.com/ though in the past
(windows only)

Simon


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:37 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

 I read the following lesson:

http://lessons.runrev.com/m/4071/l/13197-how-do-i-create-an-html-e-mail

Supposedly this only works if Thunderbird is the default email client.

Does anyone know if there is a way to send an email from a stack if
Thunderbird is NOT the default email client?


ACTUALLY, what I want to do is this:
create some data in a stack
send that data (by email or whatever) to another person who has a stack
that imports the data and makes use of it.

Can that be done?

TIA
Larry
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mouseUp question

2014-08-06 Thread larry
In a field I have two scripts - one for mouseUp and another one for 
mouseDoubleUp

When the user clicks a line in the field (mouseUp) it plays the .wav file they 
click on

When the user double clicks it copies the .wav file to another field.

The problem is that LC runs BOTH scripts when the user dbl clicks.
There is the small delay of time after the first click and before the second 
click.

How do I get LC to ignore mouseUp when the user dbl clicks??

TIA
Larry
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Re: mouseUp question

2014-08-06 Thread larry
Hi Terry,
You put me on the right track.
I'm sure your script below would work, but I don't like messing with 
pendingMessages, so I did the following:

global myClick



on mouseUp

put 1 into myClick

send soundChoice to me in .3 seconds

end mouseUp



on mouseDoubleUp

put 2 into myClick

soundChoice

end mouseDoubleUp



on soundChoice

   if myClick = 1 then

  put the hilitedtext of field allMySounds into thisSound

  play ac thisSound

   end if

   if myClick = 2 then

 put return  the hilitedtext of field allMySounds after field eventSounds

 sort field eventSounds

 if line 1 of field eventSounds is empty then delete line 1 of field 
eventSounds

 put 3 into myClick  -- SO IT DOESN'T PUT IT IN TWICE

   end if

end soundChoice





Thanks for your help!

Larry





- Original Message - 
From: Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: mouseUp question


 Hi Larry, one approach is to do something like the code below, which
 delays the mouseUp handler from running until after the doubleClick
 interval has expired. You can adjust the double-click interval to be
 whatever you like (shorter times will cause less obvious delays in the
 mouseUp handler running).
 
 on mouseUp
send doStuff to me in (the doubleClickInterval)+1 millisecs
 end mouseUp
 
 on doStuff
put mouseUpcr after fld 1
 end doStuff
 
 on mouseDoubleUp
repeat for each line tMessage in the pendingMessages
if tMessage contains doStuff then cancel (item 1 of tMessage)
end repeat
put mouseDoubleUp cr after fld 1
 end mouseDoubleUp
 
 Terry...
 
 
 
 On 7/08/2014 2:11 pm, la...@significantplanet.org
 la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
 
In a field I have two scripts - one for mouseUp and another one for
mouseDoubleUp

When the user clicks a line in the field (mouseUp) it plays the .wav file
they click on

When the user double clicks it copies the .wav file to another field.

The problem is that LC runs BOTH scripts when the user dbl clicks.
There is the small delay of time after the first click and before the
second click.

How do I get LC to ignore mouseUp when the user dbl clicks??

TIA
Larry
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Re: Using an internal file for PDF for manual

2014-08-08 Thread larry

Hi Charles,
I use a PDF in my app for a manual.
In windows, at least, if you launch the PDF document and the user has Adobe 
Reader installed, then it is the default program for a PDF file and will 
automatically launch it.  I don't know how it works on a Mac.

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Charles Szasz csz...@me.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 8:17 PM
Subject: Using an internal file for PDF for manual


I have added a PDF file to my app.  I want to show the PDF manual using the 
user's PDF application Preview on the Mac and Acrobat Reader on Windows. So 
far I have unable to use the Launch Document because of not knowing the 
path for a PDF added to the app.  Does anybody know how to script to show a 
PDF manual from a menu?


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Re: Using an internal file for PDF for manual

2014-08-08 Thread larry
Hi Charles,
I used the following:

launch document myHelp.pdf

if the result  empty then

answer the result with OK

end if



With the launch document command, the result will be empty unless an error 
occurred. If no error occurs, the default program will launch the document.

So I added the if statement at the end to show the error if one occurred.

I hope that helps!

Larry



- Original Message - 
From: Charles Szasz csz...@me.com
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: Using an internal file for PDF for manual


 Larry,
 
 How did you script this for windows?
 
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Re: Using an internal file for PDF for manual

2014-08-08 Thread larry

Hi Charles,
I don't know if it makes a difference, but I have the PDF file in a folder 
myData which I set as the default folder when I start up my app.
So LC goes to that default folder to launch the document and uses the 
default Windows program to do so.

Good luck!
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Charles Szasz csz...@me.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: Using an internal file for PDF for manual



Larry,

I tried that script earlier (without the script for Ok button) before I 
posted a message for help. It did not work.  In the standalone settings, I 
added the PDF Manual as a file to my settings. I will go back and see why 
it did not work.


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sorting

2014-08-09 Thread larry
I have a field I want to sort.
Each line has 4 words.
I want to sort by the first word (ascending) and then do a 2nd sort by the 3rd 
word without changing the order of the first word.

Example:

apple  box
apple  pie
apple  zoo
baby  blue
baby  rattle
baby  zoo
etc.

TIA
Larry
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Re: sorting

2014-08-09 Thread larry

Hello Alex,
OK, in my previous email I gave some hypothetical data.
In my app I actually have a field where the first word is either Advanced or 
Beginner

The 2nd word is a number ranging from 2 to 25, showing how many items.
There are some other words after those, but I'm not concerned about them.

As lines are added to the field, they are in jumbled order.
What I want is this on the sort: (All the Beginners in numeric order, 
followed by all the Advanced in numeric order)

Beginner 1
Beginner 2
Beginner 3 (etc.)
Advanced 1
Advanced 2
Advanced 3 (etc.)

Thanks,
Larry


- Original Message - 
From: Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: sorting


Larry,
can you be more explicit about how it doesn't work ?

Actually, can you explain better what you want to do ? You said you want
to sort by the 2nd and then the 3rd word - but gave an example that
appeared to show sorting by 2nd and 1st - and not even have a 3rd word
in any line.

So how about a slightly less terse description, and an example showing
both before and after and hopefully we can get you to where you want


-- Alex.


On 09/08/2014 09:14, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

Sorry, that doesn't work

- Original Message - From: Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: sorting



sort theList by word 2 of each
sort theList by word 1 of each

sort order is retained in-between commands, that's why it works.

On 09 Aug 2014, at 08:24, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


I have a field I want to sort.
Each line has 4 words.
I want to sort by the first word (ascending) and then do a 2nd sort by 
the 3rd word without changing the order of the first word.


Example:

apple  box
apple  pie
apple  zoo
baby  blue
baby  rattle
baby  zoo
etc.

TIA
Larry
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Re: sorting

2014-08-09 Thread larry
Hello Craig,
That doesn't work either.
 
When I use the following line, it works:
sort lines of field myList numeric by word 2 of each

But then when I try to do two sorts with the following line, I get the error 
message below:
sort lines of field myList descending by word 1 of each  numeric by word 2 of 
each

(Error) button Button: execution error at line 2 (Handler: can't find 
handler) near by, char 74

If I leave out the second by I get a compile error saying I need to put it in.

At this point I am believing that there are lots of theories about how to make 
it work, but nobody actually knows how to make it work.
Thank you anyway,
Larry


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From: dunb...@aol.com
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: sorting


 Way back from 1987, and undocumented everywhere except in the user notes in 
 the dictionary here, is this;
 
 
 
 Multiple stable sorts may be implemented directly by concatenating sortKeys:
 
 
 sort container by sortKey1  sortKey2  sortKey3...
 
 
 Sortkey order determines the sorting sequence
 
 
 So you can:
 
 
 sort lines of yourList by word 1 of each  word 3 of each
 
 
 Craig Newman
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net
 To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Sent: Sat, Aug 9, 2014 5:52 am
 Subject: Re: sorting
 
 
 Larry,
 can you be more explicit about how it doesn't work ?
 
 Actually, can you explain better what you want to do ? You said you want 
 to sort by the 2nd and then the 3rd word - but gave an example that 
 appeared to show sorting by 2nd and 1st - and not even have a 3rd word 
 in any line.
 
 So how about a slightly less terse description, and an example showing 
 both before and after and hopefully we can get you to where you want 
 
 
 -- Alex.
 
 
 On 09/08/2014 09:14, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
 Sorry, that doesn't work

 - Original Message - From: Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 12:58 AM
 Subject: Re: sorting


 sort theList by word 2 of each
 sort theList by word 1 of each

 sort order is retained in-between commands, that's why it works.

 On 09 Aug 2014, at 08:24, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

 I have a field I want to sort.
 Each line has 4 words.
 I want to sort by the first word (ascending) and then do a 2nd sort 
 by the 3rd word without changing the order of the first word.

 Example:

 apple  box
 apple  pie
 apple  zoo
 baby  blue
 baby  rattle
 baby  zoo
 etc.

 TIA
 Larry
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Re: sorting - THANK YOU PAUL!!

2014-08-09 Thread larry

Hi Paul,
After trying MANY suggestions and my own trial and ERRORS, you finally 
provided me with a solution that actually works.

I very much appreciate that you actually tested it.
I have the feeling that many times in this list well-meaning people post 
solutions that they have not tested and therefore often do not work.

Thanks again,
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: sorting


Larry,

If I understand right, just change the direction of the second sort to put 
the beginners first, this worked for my test:


on mouseUp
  sort lines of fld sortField by word 2 of each
  sort lines of fld sortField descending by word 1 of each
end mouseUp

Paul

On 2014-08-09, at 4:56 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


Hello Alex,
OK, in my previous email I gave some hypothetical data.
In my app I actually have a field where the first word is either Advanced 
or Beginner

The 2nd word is a number ranging from 2 to 25, showing how many items.
There are some other words after those, but I'm not concerned about them.

As lines are added to the field, they are in jumbled order.
What I want is this on the sort: (All the Beginners in numeric order, 
followed by all the Advanced in numeric order)

Beginner 1
Beginner 2
Beginner 3 (etc.)
Advanced 1
Advanced 2
Advanced 3 (etc.)

Thanks,
Larry


- Original Message - From: Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: sorting


Larry,
can you be more explicit about how it doesn't work ?

Actually, can you explain better what you want to do ? You said you want
to sort by the 2nd and then the 3rd word - but gave an example that
appeared to show sorting by 2nd and 1st - and not even have a 3rd word
in any line.

So how about a slightly less terse description, and an example showing
both before and after and hopefully we can get you to where you want


-- Alex.


On 09/08/2014 09:14, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

Sorry, that doesn't work

- Original Message - From: Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: sorting



sort theList by word 2 of each
sort theList by word 1 of each

sort order is retained in-between commands, that's why it works.

On 09 Aug 2014, at 08:24, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


I have a field I want to sort.
Each line has 4 words.
I want to sort by the first word (ascending) and then do a 2nd sort by 
the 3rd word without changing the order of the first word.


Example:

apple  box
apple  pie
apple  zoo
baby  blue
baby  rattle
baby  zoo
etc.

TIA
Larry
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Re: sorting - THANK YOU Colin!!

2014-08-09 Thread larry

Hi Colin
Thanks for clarifying!
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: sorting - THANK YOU PAUL!!


I tried Craig’s approach, but with the correct syntax, not the condensed 
example he gave. I put your example list into field 1, and had this script 
in a button:


on mouseUp
  put fld 1 into fld 2
  sort fld 2 by word 1 of each  word 2 of each
end mouseUp

I then scrambled (manually) the lines of field 1. That consistently gives 
back the list in the sorted order you showed.


Next I tried this script:

on mouseUp
  repeat with a = 1 to 100
 put item random(2) of advanced,beginner  random(100) into line a 
of fld 1

  end repeat
  put fld 1 into fld 2
  sort fld 2 by word 1 of each  word 2 of each
end mouseUp

Field 1 had a random list of advanced and beginner entries, with a level 
too, and after clicking the button field 2 showed the list as sorted.


Now, it’s an alpha sort not a numeric sort, and Paul’s approach, which was 
the same as Björnke’s, also fails in that way.


So, Craig’s suggestion was good, just not with the syntax expanded.
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Re: Helping newcomers anticipate that standalones can't save tothemselves

2014-08-15 Thread larry

Great concept from Paul.
To that I would add this:  I agree 100% that the LC documentation is slowly 
improving, but has a LONG way to go.
Speaking of tutorials, what would be really helpful is a series of videos 
that are screen capture tutorials - someone who knows what they're doing 
literally walking a newbie through a specific lesson.
As you all know, there is a ton of free or for purchase screen capture 
software out there.  I am not sure the best way to organize this idea, but 
if this list could somehow come up with an organized list of topics, then 
one or more programmers on the list could create the video(s) for a 
particular topic and post it somewhere.
Personally, I would recommend a series of videos that range from something 
as simple as how to drag a button onto the IDE and set its properties (even 
I could make that video) to something as complex as creating a plugin for 
the IDE. (for someone else to make!)
If we had a video series such as this, I would absolutely encourage some of 
my (young) grandchildren to learn programming basics with LC and the videos.
I really do believe that one of the great strengths of LC is that a newbie 
can actually make a simple program that actually works - and not just Hello 
World.
I've never taken a programming class, but because of LC (and this list 
helping me) I've written dozens of little programs that I personally use a 
lot and a couple of bigger more sophisticated programs.

That's my opinion of what this list might want to think about.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Helping newcomers anticipate that standalones can't save 
tothemselves



From my own point of view, I struggled trying to understand some of the 
basic principles of using LC (Revolution as it was then), until I finally 
picked apart some sample stacks such as the calculator etc., then a few 
things started to fall in to place.


After that I looked for stacks that had a similar use or techniques to the 
project I wanted to build (I still do to an extent), to find ideas and 
learn about how LC works in ways that I maybe don't know or understand.


My biggest frustration at the time was the disjointed documentation and 
lack of structured tutorials, many people have also made the same comments 
over the years. I feel the tutorials especially have improved and the 
documentation is improving slowly.


Thinking back to when I discovered that I needed an anchor window (or 
splash screen), again I had to do more research to find out what was 
needed until I eventually understood the reasons and principles behind 
this process. Maybe this could be addressed with a good, well structured 
My First Application tutorial that ships with each new user download, or 
a package that's easily visible and readily available for new users to 
download. Currently there is just a free mobile template that tries to 
entice users to download the community version.


I'm sure there are enough teachers and ex-teachers on this list that could 
maybe help with this. A well structured tutorial can help to guide the new 
user with the right techniques from the start.


Moving forward from the anchor window (or splash screen), I also feel a 
series of basic project templates (or starting points) could be useful, 
not as complex as the GLX framework, but something that already has an 
anchor window, preferences, menu bar and a few basic (commented) scripts 
for printing, saving etc.


Obviously these templates would be different for desktop, mobile or 
tablet, but starting from a template rather than a single empty stack 
would eventually help to guide the new user towards a better understanding 
of the techniques needed for each platform.


Paul


On 2014-08-15, at 7:13 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com 
wrote:


One of the most frequent frustrations new users have with LiveCode is the 
moment they realize the standalone they've built can't save changes to 
its stacks.


Often this happens very late in the process, just after building the 
standalone to test out the work they've been doing, and suddenly 
everything that worked so well in the IDE stops working, with no readily 
discernible cause.


So they come into the forums or this list, and folks mention everything 
from refactoring their work to use an anchor window (or splash screen) 
pattern, or completely rewrite everything to use an external text file or 
database or what have you.


The LiveCode User Guide's section on building standalones includes a bold 
purple callout box explaining this (p 299), but it's a testament to the 
usability of LiveCode that apparently a great many people can use it 
productively for many weeks without ever cracking the User Guide.


Clearly something more is needed.  What should that be?

Putting a note in the Standalone Builder might help, but if they've

screen resolution

2014-08-28 Thread larry
Hi All,
Is there a way to detect screen resolution in Windows?  I'm creating a stack 
that is 1280 x 980, but I know some people still have a 1024 x 768 monitor 
(like my dad.)

I'd like to know if there is a way to automatically or programatically resize 
my stack and the elements in the stack so it will display on the smaller 
monitor.

TIA
Larry
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how to stop mouse clicks from executing?

2014-09-01 Thread larry
I have a situation in my program where I'm showing the user some stuff.  I do 
not want the user to be able to click with the mouse during this time.
What is the best way to do that?
Actually it would be great if the user couldn't even move the mouse (within my 
program) during this time.

TIA
Larry
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Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing?

2014-09-01 Thread larry

Hi Paul,
As Richmond says, That's a clever idea.
However, I have no understanding of what a frontScript is and no 
understanding of how to trap those events.

Perhaps you'd be willing to elaborate for me?
Thanks,
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Dupuis p...@researchware.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing?



insert a frontScript containing mouseDown and mouseUp handlers to trap
those events when you want to block them and remove the frontScript when
done

That will still allow mouseStillDown and mouseRelease messages to be
passed for drag operations

On 9/1/2014 2:14 PM, Richmond wrote:


On 1.09.2014 21:03, miked...@gmail.com wrote:

‎ How about setting the cursor to none and locking the cursor‎?


Because the chap may still need the cursor for something else (such as
grab).



Mike

Original Message

From: Richmond
Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 1:59 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Reply To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing?


On 1.09.2014 20:23, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

I have a situation in my program where I'm showing the user some
stuff. I do not want the user to be able to click with the mouse
during this time.
What is the best way to do that?
Actually it would be great if the user couldn't even move the mouse
(within my program) during this time.

TIA
Larry
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How about this sort of code in your cardScript:

on mouseUp
if fld NIX contains 1 then
---do nix
end if
end mouseUp

then have an offscreen fld NIX that you put 1 onto when your
slide-show
starts, and you put 'empty' into when it finishes?

of course you could move that script out of the cardScript into all your
buttons on the card
like this:

on mouseUp
if fld NIX contains 1 then
---do nix
else
--do whatever you want this button to do
end if
end mouseUp

Richmond.

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Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing?

2014-09-02 Thread larry

Hi Peter,
Thanks very much for the explanation.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing?


On Sep 1, 2014, at 3:50 PM, la...@significantplanet.org 
la...@significantplanet.org wrote:



Hi Paul,
As Richmond says, That's a clever idea.
However, I have no understanding of what a frontScript is and no 
understanding of how to trap those events.

Perhaps you'd be willing to elaborate for me?


Create a button with the following script:

on mousedown
  if put your conditions here then
 -- block mousedown
  else
 pass mousedown
  end if
end mousedown

on mouseup
  if put your conditions here then
 -- block mouseup
  else
 pass mouseup
  end if
end mouseup

Then in an openstack handler put the following line:
  insert script of btn myFrontScript into front

A front script resides at the very front of the message path, and all 
messages will pass to it before going to any controls, cards, or stacks. 
Anything not handled by the frontscript will then pass to the normal 
message path. Any message blocked by the frontscript will stop there 
without getting passed. Frontscripts are very useful for handling special 
actions that must prevail everywhere in your stack.


In most cases you will want to be sure to put the following in your 
closestack handler:

  remove script of btn myFrontScript from front
to be sure that your blocking action does not persist when it is not 
needed.


-- Peter

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copying files

2014-09-05 Thread larry
Hello All,

I need to copy some files from one folder to another in Windows.

I have searched the dictionary and cannot figure it out.

Is there a way to have thisFile.txt in one folder and copy the file to 
another folder?

TIA
Larry
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Re: copying files

2014-09-06 Thread larry

Thank you Kay

- Original Message - 
From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: copying files



On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 6:00 AM,  la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


I need to copy some files from one folder to another in Windows.

I have searched the dictionary and cannot figure it out.


I opened the Dictonary, typed 'move' into the search field and found
'revMoveFolder'. Reading that entry, at the bottom is a User Note by
Rodney that says: to move a file see 'rename'. So I typed 'rename' in
the search field and under that entry it says:

Gives a file or folder a new name or moves it to a new location or both.

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icon sizes

2014-09-08 Thread larry
does anyone know the sizes needed to include an icon in a Windows build?

thanks

p.s.  why does LC make this information so difficult to find?
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Re: icon sizes

2014-09-08 Thread larry

Yes,
Thanks Charles
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Charles E Buchwald char...@buchwald.ca

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: icon sizes



Hi Larry,
Is this helpful?
http://buchwald.ca/lc/Windows-Icons.png
- Charles

On 08 Sep 2014, at 12:43 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


does anyone know the sizes needed to include an icon in a Windows build?

thanks

p.s.  why does LC make this information so difficult to find?
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2 lines on a button?

2014-09-08 Thread larry
Hi All,

I have a large button and I want the label to read either Show Instructions 
or Hide Instructions but I cannot figure out how to put the two words on two 
different lines in the label of the button.  Is that possible to do?
TIA
Larry
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re: 2 lines on a button

2014-09-08 Thread larry
Never Mind!

I was trying to do it in the property inspector and then I realized I can just 
say in the script:
set the label of button myInstructions to  Show  return  Instructions

so simple, but in my defense, I'm still learning!
Thanks, Larry
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Re: 2 lines on a button

2014-09-08 Thread larry

ha ha
(I only wish I could be fast all the time!)

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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: 2 lines on a button



larry-

Dang! You're getting way too fast at this! I was thinking that would
probably work, but I didn't even get a chance to test it before you
answered your own question.

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Re: 2 lines on a button

2014-09-08 Thread larry

Thanks Phil,
In many cases that will be easier! ( and I checked; you can put as many \n 
as the space on the button will allow:  First\nSecond\nThird, etc.)

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: 2 lines on a button



Larry,

Another way to do it in the Property Inspector is type \n between the 
first and second lines of the label, like this:


first line\nsecond line

Regards -
Phil


On 9/8/14, 4:43 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

Never Mind!

I was trying to do it in the property inspector and then I realized I can 
just say in the script:
set the label of button myInstructions to  Show  return  
Instructions


so simple, but in my defense, I'm still learning!
Thanks, Larry
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Re: Congrats LC 7.0! You finally broke my DB!

2014-09-09 Thread larry

Sorry that happened Mark.
LC seems to be following the same rule of business as Microsoft - Let's not 
worry too much about making our new stuff backward compatible with the old 
stuff.  What do we care if people cannot run their old stuff anymore?

an emphathetic coder
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Mitchell cowh...@mac.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:44 PM
Subject: Congrats LC 7.0! You finally broke my DB!


First of all, LC is an absolutely amazing product.  It's actually so 
amazing that I don't want to tell anyone about it, as I can make my 
computer dance and sing, and everyone thinks I am a programming wiz...


However, my basic data base app has been running my small company for 
about 14 years?  I think it started with the free meta-card, which was 
limited to just 10 lines of code, so you had to keep passing your code 
from hidden object to object, in order to keep it free... anyone remember 
those days?  It was like NASA controlling Voyager!  Then, this app went 
through paid metacard, Revolution Beta, paid Revolution, all versions of 
Livecode and FINALLY LC 7.0 managed to break it...


I don't want to seem like a whiner; I HAVE paid hundreds of dollars for 
various incarnations and complicated licenses of this, ever since I was a 
beta tester.  (And I never received a stuffed animal!)


But this DB app has run on, quite literally, more than 20 different 
computers and various operating systems.  It has managed my company and 
allowed me to raise more than 7 cats.


The DB used 'color coding' of the lines, so the color of the lines is 
vital information.  LC 7.0 erases all the previous 13 year of coloring on 
the entire fields and reverts them to plain text.. thus dumping 13 years 
of essential information.


All is OK, for the time being, I have trashed LC 7.0 and restored all 
stacks (which worked fine with LC 6.6 but will not open with LC 7.0).


I have tested on multiple machines, and it has failed, yet it still works 
fine on LC 6.6.  Is this not a bug?  I have a feeling it is tied to the 
revamped unicode which LC 7.0 has promised, but which I have not yet had a 
chance to test.


I have narrowed down the offending code to this:

global planDate,linNum
put absolutely anything into line linNum of card field plan
--
It gets 'put' alright, but card field plan loses all previous 
formatting.

Big, big bug if it changes folks' stacks forever!

I've tried putting a global or a non-variable, and I get the same result.
I would say I am doing something stupid, but I didn't DO anything, except 
upgrade to 7.0


(edit: in a previous post, I included an extraneous 'the' as I was testing 
to see if the type of variable mattered.  Anyway, the 'the' doesn't 
matter.  You still lose formatting without it.)



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copying files in Windows 8

2014-09-11 Thread larry
I have a little program where I copy some files from one folder to another with 
revCopyFile myFile,myFolder and also delete myFile
The compiled program works fine on XP and Windows 7, but I get strange behavior 
on Windows 8.

Is that perhaps because Windows 8 uses some different type of folder and file 
management?

I am completely mystified.

Thanks for any insights...

Larry
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player question

2014-09-12 Thread larry
I have the following lines of code below:
I put a number such as 10 into field myStart and then execute the code.
The player still starts playing at the very beginning of the song.
?
TIA
Larry

put field myStart * the timeScale of player myPlayer into tStart

set the startTime of player myPlayer to tStart

start player myPlayer
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Re: player question

2014-09-12 Thread larry

Thanks Paul!
That was all that was needed.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: player question



Try adding the line:

set the playSelection of player myPlayer to true

Paul


On 2014-09-12, at 4:56 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


I have the following lines of code below:
I put a number such as 10 into field myStart and then execute the code.
The player still starts playing at the very beginning of the song.
?
TIA
Larry

put field myStart * the timeScale of player myPlayer into tStart

set the startTime of player myPlayer to tStart

start player myPlayer
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Re: No WAV playback on Win in v6.6.2?

2014-09-12 Thread larry

Hello Richard,
I had a problem once with playing .wav
Turns out that I had the wrong flavor of .wav
I had to convert my wav files from 32 bit to 16 bit.  Apparently LC doesn't 
handle wav files above 16 bit.

Anyway, that was my experience.  Good luck!
Larry

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From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 7:37 PM
Subject: No WAV playback on Win in v6.6.2?


I could have sworn I'd been able to play WAV files in Windows (no QuickTime 
installed) within a LiveCode player object, but today I'm having no luck.


Am I imagining things?

LC seems to do well with MP3, but it would be very convenient for this 
project if I could use WAV.


Am I missing something?

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url question

2014-09-12 Thread larry
Hello,

I use the following:

launch url myUrl

and LC opens a browser tab in my default browser - cool.

My question is this:

Is there any way to close that tab when I want to?

TIA
Larry
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closing a browser tab?

2014-09-13 Thread larry
Hello,

I use the following:

launch url myUrl

and LC opens a browser tab in my default browser - cool.

My question is this:

Is there any way to close that tab when I want to?

TIA
Larry
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browser app?

2014-09-15 Thread larry
Hello,

I came across this article:
http://newsletters.livecode.com/february/issue149/newsletter4.php

It describes a browser app for mobile phones.
Does anyone know if the app could be adapted for a Windows desktop environment?

Thanks for the help!
Larry
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Re: browser app?

2014-09-15 Thread larry

Thanks Richard!!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: browser app?



Larry wrote:

 I came across this article:
 http://newsletters.livecode.com/february/issue149/newsletter4.php

 It describes a browser app for mobile phones.
 Does anyone know if the app could be adapted for a Windows desktop
 environment?

That article describes the revBrowser control for mobile.  The desktop 
version has been available longer (for Mac and Win), and the LiveCode IDE 
install includes a demo showing how to use it:  Click Resources in the 
toolbar, then in the Resource Center window click Tutorials - Internet - 
Browser Sampler


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trouble with 6.1.1 (rc4)

2014-09-18 Thread larry
I'm using 6.1.1 (rc 4) on Windows XP

I made a mistake in one of my card scripts and BLOOEY!!!, LiveCode went beserk 
and changed most of my buttons and fields to about 48 pt text size.

Now, whenever I drag a NEW button onto my card, it still has that huge text 
size by default.

I went to Preferences and clicked on Reset to Defaults and then closed LC 
entirely.

If I open a New Stack, the button has the default text size of 10 or 12 or 
whatever it is.

But if I open my existing stack where the trouble began, then a new button 
still has the 48 text size.

This is driving me crazy!!

So please help me not have to start taking lots of drugs...

How can this be fixed?

Thanks,
Larry
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large arrays

2014-09-19 Thread larry
Hello,

I made a program some years ago with Rev studio 2.9 that had some very large 
arrays in it.  No problem.

Then I got Rev 3.5 and it choked on the large arrays - took forever to load and 
display in Variables.

Several years ago, I spoke to RunRev about it and they said they were going to 
resolve it.

I am using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) and was just working with it on my old (large array) 
program.  I can hardly do anything because LC is SO sluggish. If I want to edit 
a script, it takes several seconds to display what I am typing - so it is 
extremely difficult to see what I'm doing.

Does anyone know of this issue and if it ever was fixed in some later version 
of LC?

Thanks,
Larry
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Re: large arrays

2014-09-19 Thread larry

Thanks Fraser,
I will try that.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Fraser Gordon fraser.gor...@livecode.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: large arrays




On 19 Sep 2014, at 12:46, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


Hello,

I made a program some years ago with Rev studio 2.9 that had some very 
large arrays in it.  No problem.


Then I got Rev 3.5 and it choked on the large arrays - took forever to 
load and display in Variables.


Several years ago, I spoke to RunRev about it and they said they were 
going to resolve it.


I am using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) and was just working with it on my old (large 
array) program.  I can hardly do anything because LC is SO sluggish. If I 
want to edit a script, it takes several seconds to display what I am 
typing - so it is extremely difficult to see what I'm doing.


Does anyone know of this issue and if it ever was fixed in some later 
version of LC?


We have completely re-written how arrays are handled internally in 
LiveCode 7 so you could give it a go in that and let us know how you get 
on.


Regards,
Fraser


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Re: large arrays

2014-09-19 Thread larry

Hello Richard,
Here are the numbers:

I wrote a program that is an anagram finder several years ago using Rev 2.9 
and had NO problems with the arrays.
As I mentioned, it choked starting with Rev 3.5 and every iteration of Rev 
or LC that I've tried since, up to the current 6.1.1 (rc 4)

I haven't tried it in LC 7.0 yet.

I have a hidden stack with my word fields in it - for words in length from 2 
to 12.  The word lists are optimized with a key for faster searching.
When the program loads, it puts each of the 11 word list fields into one 
array - which takes about 1 second on my XP with 4gb of ram.
The word lists vary in length (3-ltr words is 1292 lines  the largest, 
9-ltr words, is 40,727 lines.)  Each line in all the lists averages less 
than 100 characters.
The size of the field for 9-ltr words is 796kb if copied into a txt 
document.


My old computer that I wrote the original program on with Rev 2.9 had less 
than 1gb of ram, so I don't think that is the issue.


If I put in a 9 letter word such as ELEPHANTS, the program will find all 
anagrams (words found within the letters of ELEPHANTS) in about 4/10 of a 
second. The time varies slightly depending on whatever else is going on with 
my computer.  That's a total of 596 words with my word lists and the program 
lists words and the number of words for each word length from 9 to 2.


So the compiled version of my program works very satisfactorily.  I'm now 
adding some other features to the program and, as I said, it is like trying 
to program on a typewriter that is full of mud.


I spoke to someone at RunRev years ago and they acknowledged that there was 
an issue with arrays.  Maybe it has been fixed in 7.0, but I haven't tried 
that yet.


If you have any additional insights, I sure would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Larry


- Original Message - 
From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: large arrays



Just curious:  How large is large?

It would be interesting to know the number of elements. depth, and 
aggregate size.


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Re: large arrays

2014-09-19 Thread larry

Hello Richard,
I had to leave for awhile but now here is the updated info:
Using put len(arrayEncode(myArray)) I got the following:
there are actually 11 different arrays - one for each of the word lengths 
from 2 to 12 letters.

The 3-ltr word array is 17672
The 9-ltr word array is 1159610 (there are a lot more 9-ltr words than 3-ltr 
words.)
I didn't do all the others, but that will give you an idea.  7 and 8-ltr 
words will be close to 9-ltr words in size


I haven't yet had time to test with later versions, but once I do, I will 
let you know.
The problem is not the time it takes to load the arrays.  As I mentioned, it 
loads all 11 in just over 1 second.
Once they are loaded, I access the data directly from the arrays and not 
from the fields.
The number elements (lines) in the arrays varies.  The 3-ltr array has 1292 
lines - I guess that means elements.

The 9-ltr array has 40,727 lines or elements.
Each line is in a format like this:
apt,APT,PAT,TAP  where apt is the key, which only needs to be found once 
and it shows all the 3-ltr words that can be made with those letters.  Of 
course, that speeds up the search process tremendously.


The time (about .4 seconds) I mentioned for finding the 596 words found in 
ELEPHANTS is what I tested today.  But I know that even on a slower computer 
using the stack built with Rev 2.9, the time was very close to that - about 
1/2 of a second.


About 5 or 6 years ago when I was using 2.9 and then upgraded to 3.5, I not 
only spoke to someone at RunRev (forgot who) but I also spoke to Jerry 
Daniels, of Daniel and Mara, on the phone about several RunRev things and we 
discussed the array issue.  He acknowledged that with the release of 3.5 
there were some serious array issues, that RunRev knew about them and Jerry 
hoped that they would soon be fixed.  They were not fixed with the release 
of RunRev 4.0 and the only version of LC that I've used extensively is 6.1.1 
and the array issues are still not fixed in that release - although I would 
say it is a big improvement over RunRev 3.5.


The crazy thing is this:  I haven't made any significant changes to my stack 
over the years - mostly cosmetic stuff and the array sizes are what they've 
always been.  RunRev 2.9 never flinched, brought up the data in the arrays 
almost instantly.  But since then it has been worse than trying to get my 
little grandson to wear a shirt.


I'm working on other projects now, but wanted to incorporate some of the 
anagram features in my latest project.  I am very reluctant to do so because 
the complete sluggishness of it makes it way too frustrating to try and 
program.


Someday soon I will get around to trying LC 7.0 or 7.1 or whatever is there 
and HOPEFULLY the issue will be solved.


In the meantime, thank you and Jacqueline SO MUCH for your kind attention 
and offers of help.


All the best,
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: large arrays



larry wrote:

 As I mentioned, it choked starting with Rev 3.5 and every iteration
 of Rev or LC that I've tried since, up to the current 6.1.1 (rc 4)

The current shipping version is 6.6.3, and the latest test version lower 
than 7 is 6.7RC2.


Please let us know if you see any significant change with either version.


 I have a hidden stack with my word fields in it - for words in length
 from 2 to 12.  The word lists are optimized with a key for faster
 searching.
 When the program loads, it puts each of the 11 word list fields into
 one array - which takes about 1 second on my XP with 4gb of ram.

If the problem is the time it takes to load the array, and the loading is 
happening from fields, the problem may not be in the arrays and perhaps in 
the field accesses.



 The word lists vary in length (3-ltr words is 1292 lines  the
 largest, 9-ltr words, is 40,727 lines.)  Each line in all the lists
 averages less than 100 characters.
 The size of the field for 9-ltr words is 796kb if copied into a txt
 document.

So there are 11 elements in the array?

If you run the array through arrayEncode and obtain its length, what is 
the size reported?


   put len(arrayEncode(tSomeArray))


 If I put in a 9 letter word such as ELEPHANTS, the program will find
 all anagrams (words found within the letters of ELEPHANTS) in about
 4/10 of a second.

Is that the old time or the new time?  If new, what is the old time (or 
vice versa)?



 I spoke to someone at RunRev years ago and they acknowledged that
 there was an issue with arrays.

It would be interesting to know exactly what they'd said.  While arrays 
have undergone revision a few times over the years, they tend to be very 
fast in every version I've used.


Hopefully once we understand more of the details of your code we'll pin 
down the bottleneck and get your performance back on par.


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design

Re: Usng an image to disable a group

2014-09-20 Thread larry

Hi Peter,
I'm not sure what you're exactly looking for in looks but I just now made 
a little test stack with colored buttons.
You can adjust the blendlevel so that the group is as opaque or as 
transparent as you wish it to be.

That's one idea.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:20 AM
Subject: Usng an image to disable a group



I have a stack with a series of groups on it.  I need to control the order
in which data is entered into the groups.  The obvious/easy way is to
enable/disable the groups as needed but I'm not happy with the way groups
look when they are disabled.

I vaguely remember a thread about using images to do this since clicks
within the image don't make it through to the underlying controls.  When I
tried this, clicks on buttons that were under the image did not trigger 
any

mouse events on them, as hoped, but field controls still get focus and I
can type into them.

It seems like this isn't going to work so looking for other ways to 
achieve

this without having to go through every control in the group and adjusting
their properties to disable them.  Alternatively, is there a way to 
control

how a group looks when it is disabled?

Pete
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Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html
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reading a file

2014-09-21 Thread larry
Hello,

Could anyone please explain why the following script does not work?
(It puts into the field the name of the selected file and not the contents of 
the file.

on mouseUp

answer file Select a file.

put quote  it  quote into thisFile

open file thisFile

read from file thisFile until EOF

put it into field myOutput

close file thisFile

end mouseUp



Thanks,

Larry
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Re: reading a file

2014-09-21 Thread larry

Thanks Alain,

Why is it that if I explicitly want to open a file, I have to put quotes 
around the name, but if I put the name in a variable, I do not need the 
quotes?

Thank you again,
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Alain Farmer alain_far...@yahoo.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: reading a file



replace:
put quote  it  quote into thisFile
with
put it into thisFile


On Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:03 PM, la...@significantplanet.org 
la...@significantplanet.org wrote:




Hello,

Could anyone please explain why the following script does not work?
(It puts into the field the name of the selected file and not the contents 
of the file.


on mouseUp

answer file Select a file.

put quote  it  quote into thisFile

open file thisFile

read from file thisFile until EOF

put it into field myOutput

close file thisFile

end mouseUp



Thanks,

Larry
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repeat with each

2014-09-22 Thread larry
Hello,

I have never been able to understand how to use the each form in a repeat 
statement.

Can anyone explain why this code does not work?  It is almost verbatim from the 
example in the LC dictionary.

on mouseUp

repeat for each word thisWord in field justOne

put , after thisWord

end repeat

sort items of field justOne

end mouseUp



It does not insert the commas.  Supposedly the each form is a lot faster than 
using

put x + 1 into x
put , after word x of field justOne

Thanks,
Larry
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file size

2014-09-22 Thread larry
Hello,

I know I can use:
put the files into field Current Files

to get the size of a file (in bytes), but is there any way to use answer file 
or some other way to get the size of just one specific file?



Thanks,

Larry
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Re: file size

2014-09-22 Thread larry

Thanks Paul and Alex and Richard,

I ended up using Paul's code:
on mouseUp
  answer file ?
  put binfile:  it into tFile
  put the length of URL tFile / 1000  KB into fld myResultField
end mouseUp

It works just great!
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: file size



Larry,

Try:

on mouseUp
  answer file ?
  put binfile:  it into tFile
  put the length of URL tFile / 1000  KB into fld myResultField
end mouseUp

Paul

On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:29 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


Hello,

I know I can use:
put the files into field Current Files

to get the size of a file (in bytes), but is there any way to use answer 
file or some other way to get the size of just one specific file?




Thanks,

Larry
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Re: file size

2014-09-22 Thread larry

Hi Mike,
good point, but actually my line is:
put the length of URL tFile into field myResult

because I want the actual number and not how many kb.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: miked...@gmail.com
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; How to use LiveCode 
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: file size



‎To be technically correct divide by 1024.

Mike

Original Message
From: la...@significantplanet.org
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:21 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Reply To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: file size

Thanks Paul and Alex and Richard,

I ended up using Paul's code:
on mouseUp
answer file ?
put binfile:  it into tFile
put the length of URL tFile / 1000  KB into fld myResultField
end mouseUp

It works just great!
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: file size



Larry,

Try:

on mouseUp
answer file ?
put binfile:  it into tFile
put the length of URL tFile / 1000  KB into fld myResultField
end mouseUp

Paul

On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:29 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


Hello,

I know I can use:
put the files into field Current Files

to get the size of a file (in bytes), but is there any way to use 
answer

file or some other way to get the size of just one specific file?



Thanks,

Larry
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sort lines by length

2014-09-23 Thread larry
Hello,

this line doesn't work:
sort lines of field myField by length of each

Can someone please tell me the code for sorting a field by length of line?

Thanks!
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searching for chars within a string

2014-09-23 Thread larry
Hello,

I have done a lot research and cannot find any way to do this:

I have a string, AELPP and I want to see if all 5 of those letters are in 
search string

If search string is:  ABCDEKLP,   then NO it isn't because there are two P's in 
the string I'm searching for.

But if search string is:  ABCDEKLLLMMOOPP, then YES the string I'm searching 
for is found in the search string.

It is important to my program that I just find the 5 chars anywhere within the 
search string and they do not have to be sequential in the search string.

Thanks for any help,
Larry
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P.S. on searching for chars within a string

2014-09-23 Thread larry
Hello again,

I know how to do it with brute force,  but I want to know the FASTEST way to 
find the chars.

Thanks
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variable trouble

2014-09-24 Thread larry
Hello,

I'm using 6.6.3 on Windows XP.

This line of code works just fine:
put the keys of wgList03 into theseKeys

but the following lines of code do NOT work: (where N is 3)  -- and yes, it IS 
a ZERO after wgList

put wgList0  N into thisVar

put the keys of thisVar into theseKeys

To me, this is just inexplicable and very frustrating.  Any help will be 
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Larry
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Re: variable trouble

2014-09-24 Thread larry

Hi Scott,
I meant to say inexplicable to me.
Your solution works great.
However, I cannot figure out the next part:
I want to put the value of thisKey into a variable when it matches.
So I tried a few iterations of:

put value(thisVar[thisKey])  space after newVar

but could not get anything to work - with the parenthesis in different 
places.


Do you know the syntax for adding the bracketed thisKey ??

Thanks,
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com

To: LiveCode Mail List use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: variable trouble



Hi Larry:

Your situation is very explicable.  In your script you're treating
thisVar as an array, instead of accessing the array that you put into
thisVar.  You're trying to use one variable to refer to another.

If I understand the result you want, one way would be to use the value
function, to retrieve the data of the array stored in thisVar:

put wgList0  N into thisVar

put the keys of value(thisVar) into theseKeys


Hope this works for you.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




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la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


Hello,

I'm using 6.6.3 on Windows XP.

This line of code works just fine:
put the keys of wgList03 into theseKeys

but the following lines of code do NOT work: (where N is 3)  -- and yes,
it IS a ZERO after wgList

put wgList0  N into thisVar

put the keys of thisVar into theseKeys

To me, this is just inexplicable and very frustrating.  Any help will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Larry
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Re: P.S. on searching for chars within a string

2014-09-24 Thread larry

Hi Craig,
Thanks for the tip.
I am using a for each loop and have run some benchmark time tests. I am able 
to find (match) the words I want in about 1/7 of the time that it used to 
take me using a different procedure - and the old way was pretty fast!  To 
find all the smaller words (length of 2 - 7) contained in a 12-ltr word, it 
used to take 3.46 seconds. Now it only takes 0.56 seconds. (finding 1698 
words)  And even better, the new way allows for getting the smaller words 
from a string of, say 30 chars, and it doesn't increase the time much - 
about 0.85 seconds for searching within 30 chars.  With the old way, I 
couldn't even search on more than 12 chars, because it just took too long.

So I learned a lot today!
Larry
P.S. Yes, I am using arrays.

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From: dunb...@aol.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: P.S. on searching for chars within a string



Larry.


Just read your brute force comment. Not sure how much data you want to 
compare, but a loop using the for each variant will run an awful lot of 
text in an awfully short time.



What about that array thing, just for modernity and compactness/


Craig



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To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Tue, Sep 23, 2014 8:25 pm
Subject: P.S. on searching for chars within a string


Hello again,

I know how to do it with brute force,  but I want to know the FASTEST way 
to

find the chars.

Thanks
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sorting question

2014-09-24 Thread larry
Hello,

I have the following items in a field:

AD, AE, AI, AN, AR, AS, AT, DE, DI, DO, EE, EN, ER, ES, ET, IN, IO, IS, IT, NO, 
NU, OE, OP, OR, OS, OU, PA, PE, PI, ST, TO, UP, UR, UT, DA, EA, ED, ID, NA, NE, 
OD, OI, ON, PO, RE, SI, SO, TA, TE, TI, UN, US



You can see that they are not sorted alphabetically.  I have a test button with:

on mouseUp

sort items of field myField

end mouseUp

However, the order of the items remains unchanged.  

I also tried:

sort items of field myField text ascending

but it didn't make a difference



Thanks for the help,

Larry
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re: sorting question

2014-09-24 Thread larry
Sorry, never mind!
Larry
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now a paste question

2014-09-24 Thread larry

Hello Dave,
Yes, you guessed it correctly.

However I have a new weird thing.
I have a large amount of text - over 10,000 5-ltr words.  I can copy and 
paste the entire text with no problem from one txt document to another via 
the clipboard.
But when I try to paste the entire amount into a LC field (either 6.1.1 or 
6.6.3) it will not paste in the whole amount.
It seems that a couple of years ago someone told me that LC has some weird 
limitation on how much can be put into a field at one time.
Does anyone know anything about that - or why I cannot paste the entire text 
into a LC field all at once.  I can do pieces and keep going until all of it 
is in the field.

Thanks,
Larry


- Original Message - 
From: Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com

To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: re: sorting question



Sounds like you've sorted it Larry :)

For others wondering what the cause was, it was likely that the spaces in
each item were confusing things - so if they are removed prior to the sort
it all works fine (they can be put back in after...)

on mouseUp
  replace space with empty in fld fldTest
  sort items of fld fldTest
  replace comma with ,  in fld fldTest
end mouseUp



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Re: now a paste question

2014-09-24 Thread larry

THANKS Dave,
I was going crazy trying to figure out the weird behavior.
I guess I should have read the user guide!
So I just put a return after every entry and, now, no problems!
Thanks very much for your help.
Larry

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From: Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com

To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: now a paste question



Hi Larry

Page 43 of the LC User Guide states  the maximum line length of a line in 
a

field is 65,536 characters storage (No more than 32,786 pixels wide for
display) Is your text all in one line by any chance?

I haven't heard of a max size for a field but if you are having problems
using a field how about using a custom property instead?




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Re: 6.6.2 or 6.6.3???

2014-09-26 Thread larry

Hi Bob,
I had the exact same experience that you did.
I just assumed it was a display bug with LC and ignored it. When I got the 
alert about 6.6.3, I just chose Skip this version.

Maybe you or someone will report it as a bug.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:00 PM
Subject: 6.6.2 or 6.6.3???


Hi all.

I’m wondering if any other Windows users are encountering this: I downloaded 
and installed the 6.6.3 installer, the commercial version, to test in my 
Windows 7 environment. But when the app launches it reports that it is 
6.6.2! So I get an alert that there is a new version, 6.6.3, so I install 
that over top. It still reports that it is version 6.6.2!!!


So which is it? 6.6.2, or 6.6.3? Is this just a display bug? The About 
Livecode splash screen is indicating 6.6.2 build 4012.


Bob S
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Re: searching for chars within a string

2014-09-26 Thread larry

Hello Peter,
Thanks for sending your functions. I'm still sort of a newbie and I had to 
get a programming friend give me a quick course in how functions work 
(especially the local variables.)
Anyway, I ran a test using your functions against the offset() function in 
LC
Searching 78 characters (the entire alphabet repeated 3 times) for all 
possible 7-ltr words (32,856 is the result) we have:

your functions: 3045 milliseconds
offset(): 1249 milliseconds

But I'm going to file away your functions because I may use them later in 
some other manner - and what I learned today about functions was very 
helpful.

So thanks again.
Larry
P.S. I'm using LC 6.6.3 on Windows XP with 4gb of ram.

- Original Message - 
From: Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: searching for chars within a string


I'm curious, Larry -- how fast is this on your machine compared to the 
regex solutions?


function isInString testStr, targetStr
  repeat for each char c in testStr
 add 1 to countArray[c]
  end repeat
  put the keys of countArray into letterList
  repeat for each line L in letterlist
 put countArray[L] into nbrCharsTest
 put howMany(c,targetStr,comma) into nbrCharsNeeded
 if nbrCharsNeeded  nbrCharsTest then return false
  end repeat
  return true
end isInString

function howmany tg,container,divChar
  -- how many tg = target string is in container

  replace tg with divChar in container
  set the itemdelimiter to divChar
  put the number of items of container into h
  if char -1 of container = divChar then return h
  -- trailing delimiter is ignored
  return h-1
end howmany

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
pmb...@gmail.com
http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig


On Sep 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, la...@significantplanet.org 
la...@significantplanet.org wrote:



Hello Kay,
Good stuff.
I did some time tests and offset() is about twice as fast as matchText(). 
Don't know why.

Larry

- Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: searching for chars within a string



A simple way would be just to use basic matchText() for each single
letter and regex matchText() for repeating letters.  P.*P will find
double Ps, P.*P.*P will find triple Ps etc. Seems to be relatively
fast but if you have very large data sets other alternatives would
need to be investigated.

in the message box:

put ABCDEKLP into X
put ABCDEKMMOOPP into Y
put 10 into Z
put 0 into a
put 0 into b
put 0 into c
put 0 into d
put the millisec into tStart
repeat Z times
if (matchText(X, A) AND matchText(X, E) AND matchText(X, L) AND
matchText(X, P.*P)) then
 add 1 to a
else
add 1 to b
end if
if (matchText(Y, A) AND matchText(Y, E) AND matchText(Y, L) AND
matchText(Y, P.*P)) then
add 1 to c
else
add 1 to d
end if
end repeat
put the millisec into tEnd
put X Passed   a   times.  cr into msg
put X Failed   b   times.  cr after msg
put Y Passed   c   times.  cr after msg
put Y Failed   d   times.  cr after msg
put Z   repeats took   tEnd - tStart   ms after msg

The above should take less than 1 sec but for a million repeats I got:

X Passed 0 times.
X Failed 100 times.
Y Passed 100 times.
Y Failed 0 times.
100 repeats took 1997 ms

NOTE: the above only works if the letters you are looking for can
appear in ANY order. If you need a specific order then you'd have to
regex matchText() for all searches, ie

if (matchText(X, A.*E.*L.*P) AND matchText(X,P.*P)) then

Yes, the P must appear in both searches to ensure a P has both an L
before it and a P after it.

HTH

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 8:22 AM,  la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

Hello,

I have done a lot research and cannot find any way to do this:

I have a string, AELPP and I want to see if all 5 of those letters 
are in search string


If search string is:  ABCDEKLP,   then NO it isn't because there are 
two P's in the string I'm searching for.


But if search string is:  ABCDEKLLLMMOOPP, then YES the string I'm 
searching for is found in the search string.


It is important to my program that I just find the 5 chars anywhere 
within the search string and they do not have to be sequential in the 
search string.


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Re: Replacing Characters

2014-09-26 Thread larry
My experience is that when doing string searching offset() is by far the 
fastest way.

But I don't know everything.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: JB sund...@pacifier.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:26 PM
Subject: Replacing Characters



I want to replace every third character in
a text string if it is a certain character.  So
lets say I have a list of characters there
range from A thru F and the list is possibly
10,000 characters long.

I want to check every third character in the
list and if it is a D then I want to change it
to a +.

I can probably do it with a repeat and use a
variable for a counter that resets every three
times and then check the character when the
counter gets to three but I was wondering if it
could be done faster somehow.

John Balgenorth

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sort question for today

2014-09-28 Thread larry
Hello,

I am trying to sort lines 7 through the last line of a field.

This doesn't work:
sort lines (7 to last) of field myStats by word 2 of each

Does anyone know the code that will work?

Thanks, Larry
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Re: sort question for today

2014-09-29 Thread larry

Hi Paul,
That is essentially what I did, but not as elegantly as your solution.
But it works and it is very quick, so I'm happy.
Thanks very much  for helping me see an even better way.
Larry

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From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: sort question for today


Larry,

This should work…

  put line 7 to -1 of fld myStats into tLinesToSort
  sort lines of tLinesToSort by word 2 of each
  put tLinesToSort into line 7 to -1 of fld myStats

You can only sort all Lines or Items of a container, so if you need to sort 
specific lines or items, you must put them into a separate container to do 
the sort, then replace them.


Paul

On Sep 28, 2014, at 8:35 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


Hello,

I am trying to sort lines 7 through the last line of a field.

This doesn't work:
sort lines (7 to last) of field myStats by word 2 of each

Does anyone know the code that will work?

Thanks, Larry
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position of field scrollbar

2014-10-02 Thread larry
Hello,
I have a field with a vScrollbar

Does anyone know how to set the position of the scrollbar to 0  ??

I'm sorry, but the LC dictionary is of NO help in this matter - at least not 
that I could see.

Thanks,
Larry
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create a new label field

2014-10-05 Thread larry
I can use create field to create a new field, but it is a rectangular field 
with square corners.  How do I create a new label field programatically?
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Re: create a new label field

2014-10-05 Thread larry

Hi Craig,
Yes, but how do I do that?
I cannot find any command that distinguishes from label or regular field.
I do use templateField for other properties, but nothing I've tried will set 
the property of a label field.

Thanks,
Larry

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From: dunb...@aol.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: create a new label field



Hi.


Set up the templateField as a label field. Then all new fields created 
will have its properties.



Craig Newman



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From: larry la...@significantplanet.org
To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 6:32 pm
Subject: create a new label field


I can use create field to create a new field, but it is a rectangular 
field

with square corners.  How do I create a new label field programatically?
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Re: create a new label field

2014-10-05 Thread larry

Hi Craig,
Thanks for elaborating. I really appreciate it.  I know your first message 
meant perfect sense to you, but I just don't have much experience.

I should have thought to do what you just said in this most recent post.
Now I have a better understanding of how to do stuff like that.
Again, thanks very much.
Larry

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From: dunb...@aol.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: create a new label field


Make a label field the way you want it. Set the properties of the 
templateField to the properties of your label field.



Craig



-Original Message-
From: larry la...@significantplanet.org
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: create a new label field


Hi Craig,
Yes, but how do I do that?
I cannot find any command that distinguishes from label or regular field.
I do use templateField for other properties, but nothing I've tried will 
set

the property of a label field.
Thanks,
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: dunb...@aol.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: create a new label field



Hi.


Set up the templateField as a label field. Then all new fields created
will have its properties.


Craig Newman



-Original Message-
From: larry la...@significantplanet.org
To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 6:32 pm
Subject: create a new label field


I can use create field to create a new field, but it is a rectangular
field
with square corners.  How do I create a new label field programatically?
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Re: create a new label field

2014-10-05 Thread larry

Thanks Jacque,
That note is actually very enlightening to me!
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: create a new label field


Just for reference, LiveCode has only one field and one button object. 
All the field variations in the tool palette are just a single field 
object with different properties set.  The same goes for all the buttons.


I think it's misleading for new users because it gives the impression that 
there are different types of button and field controls.


On October 5, 2014 7:36:14 PM CDT, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

Hi Craig,
Thanks for elaborating. I really appreciate it.  I know your first
message
meant perfect sense to you, but I just don't have much experience.
I should have thought to do what you just said in this most recent
post.
Now I have a better understanding of how to do stuff like that.
Again, thanks very much.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: dunb...@aol.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: create a new label field



Make a label field the way you want it. Set the properties of the
templateField to the properties of your label field.


Craig



-Original Message-
From: larry la...@significantplanet.org
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: create a new label field


Hi Craig,
Yes, but how do I do that?
I cannot find any command that distinguishes from label or regular

field.

I do use templateField for other properties, but nothing I've tried

will

set
the property of a label field.
Thanks,
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: dunb...@aol.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: create a new label field



Hi.


Set up the templateField as a label field. Then all new fields

created

will have its properties.


Craig Newman



-Original Message-
From: larry la...@significantplanet.org
To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 6:32 pm
Subject: create a new label field


I can use create field to create a new field, but it is a

rectangular

field
with square corners.  How do I create a new label field

programatically?

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how to detect insertion point

2014-10-05 Thread larry
Hello,

I have several fields... myField1, myField2, etc.

When the user clicks within a field, I want to detect the (?? selection, 
insertion ??) and run a script.

I've experimented for over an hour with no luck.

The only thing I found that sort of works is:
on mouseEnter
  do stuff
end mouseEnter

The problem with that is that one of the things I want to do is change the 
color of the field while the script is doing stuff and only change back to the 
original color when the stuff is finished, and not when the mouse leaves.  It 
is too clunky to require the user to leave the mouse in the field while the 
stuff is being done.

I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for any help.
Larry
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Re: how to detect insertion point

2014-10-05 Thread larry

Thanks Kay,
For some reason, neither focusIn nor focusOut works.
I can get what I want with openField but I haven't found anything that works 
when the focus is no longer on the field; focusOut doesn't work and neither 
does closeField (because closeField only works if the user changed the 
contents of the field)

So I'm just here tearing my hair out!
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point



Maybe the focusIn messgae might help.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:30 AM,  la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

Hello,

I have several fields... myField1, myField2, etc.

When the user clicks within a field, I want to detect the (?? selection, 
insertion ??) and run a script.


I've experimented for over an hour with no luck.

The only thing I found that sort of works is:
on mouseEnter
  do stuff
end mouseEnter

The problem with that is that one of the things I want to do is change 
the color of the field while the script is doing stuff and only change 
back to the original color when the stuff is finished, and not when the 
mouse leaves.  It is too clunky to require the user to leave the mouse in 
the field while the stuff is being done.


I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for any help.
Larry
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Re: how to detect insertion point

2014-10-05 Thread larry

Thanks Mike!
Now I can keep the rest of my hair!
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: miked...@gmail.com
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; How to use LiveCode 
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point


What about exitfield?

Mike

Original Message
From: la...@significantplanet.org
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 10:45 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Reply To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point

Thanks Kay,
For some reason, neither focusIn nor focusOut works.
I can get what I want with openField but I haven't found anything that works
when the focus is no longer on the field; focusOut doesn't work and neither
does closeField (because closeField only works if the user changed the
contents of the field)
So I'm just here tearing my hair out!
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point



Maybe the focusIn messgae might help.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:30 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

Hello,

I have several fields... myField1, myField2, etc.

When the user clicks within a field, I want to detect the (?? selection,
insertion ??) and run a script.

I've experimented for over an hour with no luck.

The only thing I found that sort of works is:
on mouseEnter
do stuff
end mouseEnter

The problem with that is that one of the things I want to do is change
the color of the field while the script is doing stuff and only change
back to the original color when the stuff is finished, and not when the
mouse leaves. It is too clunky to require the user to leave the mouse in
the field while the stuff is being done.

I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for any help.
Larry
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Re: how to detect insertion point

2014-10-05 Thread larry

Thanks Craig,
I learned a lot today from your post and Jacque's post.
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: dunb...@aol.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point



Larry.


It takes a while to learn the many LC commands, functions and properties 
that pertain to the task at hand. Experimentation is the best way, but 
also do use the dictionary, trying out various words that seem to  fit 
what you are looking for. And especially the see also entries when you 
do.



In your original post, you mentioned the word selection. That, or maybe 
select by itself, would likely have led you to many possible lines of 
experimentation. After a while, you will have a a sense of what and how to 
search for in the dictionary, and the array of options presented there 
will lead you farther. I would keep the filter set to all.



Craig



-Original Message-
From: Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 11:26 pm
Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point


Hi Larry,

To detect the insertion pint when the user clicks in a field, you can do 
this:


on selectionChanged
  put the selectedchunk
end selectionChanged

--
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Mark Schonewille
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Op 6 okt. 2014 om 04:30 heeft la...@significantplanet.org het volgende
geschreven:


Hello,

I have several fields... myField1, myField2, etc.

When the user clicks within a field, I want to detect the (?? selection,

insertion ??) and run a script.


I've experimented for over an hour with no luck.

The only thing I found that sort of works is:
on mouseEnter
 do stuff
end mouseEnter

The problem with that is that one of the things I want to do is change 
the
color of the field while the script is doing stuff and only change back to 
the
original color when the stuff is finished, and not when the mouse leaves. 
It is
too clunky to require the user to leave the mouse in the field while the 
stuff

is being done.


I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for any help.
Larry
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from here to there

2014-10-06 Thread larry
Hello,

Can someone please tell me the syntax for putting words x to y from one 
field/var to another?

I tried:
put words 1 to 40 of field fld1 into field fld2
but that doesn't work.

I don't even know how to look up the syntax!  Sorry.

Thanks
Larry
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Re: from here to there

2014-10-06 Thread larry

Thanks Klaus and Dave,
It is sort of strange to me that I want more than 1 word and so I used 
words, but you guys are right of course.  Just use word

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: from here to there



Hi Larry,

Am 07.10.2014 um 00:25 schrieb la...@significantplanet.org 
la...@significantplanet.org:



Hello,

Can someone please tell me the syntax for putting words x to y from one 
field/var to another?


I tried:
put words 1 to 40 of field fld1 into field fld2
but that doesn't work.
I don't even know how to look up the syntax!  Sorry.


avoid the plural :-)

put word 1 to 40 of field fld1 into field fld2


Thanks
Larry


Best

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Re: from here to there

2014-10-06 Thread larry

I'm echoing John:
Thanks Kay for the detailed explanation.
That really helps us understand the LC syntax so much better!
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: from here to there



On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:37 AM,  la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


It is sort of strange to me that I want more than 1 word and so I used
words,


As to how grammatically correct it is I'm sure Richmond could tell us,
but I like to think of it this way, I'm not actually specifying plural
what I'm doing is specifying a start point and an end point and these
are always singular.

char 1 to char 21
word 5 to word -2

this is then conveniently shorthanded to:

item 2 to 22
token 34 to -9
byte -8 to -1

Also, if I ask myself, how do I get every word from a variable - note
I've used the singular, so the answer is, word 1 to -1  --again I use
the singular

And just in case it comes up, remember a word in LC includes any
punctuation that may follow what we typically think of as a word, in
the message box

put this is, a word into tStore
put word 1 to 2 of tStore into msg

if you don't want the punctuation you might find trueword is what you need

put this is, a word into tStore
put trueword 1 to 2 of tStore into msg

HTH

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reporting a bug?

2014-10-07 Thread larry
Hello,

I've just spent about 3 hours trying to debug my program and finally found out:
There is a problem in the IDE, but when I compile, the problem goes away.

I am creating several fields using the templateField and create field

I set the locktext to false for all the fields - both in the templateField and 
after they are created - just to be sure. (Originally I just had: set the 
locktext of the templateField to false)

Each created field has its script set to a master script that has an openField 
command in it.

When I open the IDE and create my fields, and then try to click in a newly 
created field, nothing happens.

I found out, just by trial and error, that if I first drag a button or field 
using the tool bar on to my stack and then delete that button or field and then 
create my fields, everything works as it should.  However, if I 
PROGRAMMATICALLY create the button and then delete it, I still cannot click in 
a newly created field.

So after 3 hours of stuff like that, I finally compiled my program and 
everything works fine.


I am just reporting this to the list because I'm not smart enough to know if 
that is a bug or not.  But if anyone was experiencing anything like that, then 
you now know what happened with me.

btw, I'm using 6.6.3 on an XP machine.

Larry
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quotes question

2014-10-08 Thread larry
Hello All,

I've been given some good advice from a couple of people on this list about 
being sure to put quotes around object names.

So I'm going back through my code and doing that.

Question: If I'm using a variable as part of a field name, should it have 
quotes around it?
In other words, which of the two examples below is the right way to do it?

create field
set the name of the last field to (myfield  x)

OR

create field
set the name of the last field to (myfield  x)

??

Thanks
Larry
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Re: LC 6.6.3 and 6.6.4 really slower than LC 6.1.2

2014-10-09 Thread larry

My (limited) experience:
I found several bugs in 6.6.3
Without changing the code at all, I opened my stack in 6.1.1 and everything 
ran perfectly.



Larry


- Original Message - 
From: Alain Vezina alain.vez...@logilangue.com

To: LiveCode How to use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: LC 6.6.3 and 6.6.4 really slower than LC 6.1.2



Hi All,

When I press a btn to go back to a previews card it takes 1/10 of a second 
with LC 6,1,2, but it takes 3.28 second with LC 6.6.3 and 6.6.4. That the 
same when my app is a standalone.

I use the same script for all trials

on mouseUp
  global sBrowserId
  BrowserInvisible02
  hide btn accidPronomi
  hide btn Rectif
  go to cd LaRecherche
  show btn avance
  show btn recule
  show fld flexions
  if fld info is not empty then
 show fld info
  end if
  revBrowserSet sBrowserId, visible, true
  show image browserimage of cd LaRecherche
end mouseUp

I am on Maveriks and XCode 6.0.1 for LC 6.6.3 and 6.6.4 and on Maveriks 
and XCode 5.1.1 for the LC 6.1.2 version.


I dont understand.
Is it a bug I have to report?

Anybody has an idea of what is the problem?

Alain Vezina
Logilangue
www.logilangue.com


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problem with counting words

2014-10-12 Thread larry
Hello,

I'm posting this to help any other poor saps who run into this insanity:

I want to count the words in a field.  I have:

set the itemDel to space

put the number of words of field myTest into field myNumber



Here is what happens:

I am testing the word count in LiveCode 6.1.1. Believe it or not, LiveCode will 
count all these words 

as 23 words because everything contained within the quotes is counted as ONE 
word!!!



There is nothing that I could find that says LiveCode will treat everything 
within quotes as one word, even when I have itemDel set to space.

I doubt the RunRev people will see this as a bug, but just how it is.  Well, 
it's really stupid - and beyond that, it is not documented in the Dictionary 
that I could see.

btw, I spoke to a programmer friend of mine (who used to work for Novell) and 
he said he'd never heard anything like that in the several programming 
languages he knows.

Yes, I do know how to do a work around to count all the actual words, but that 
is not the point.  The point is that I wasted over 2 hours of my time figuring 
out why my word count was inaccurate.

quite depressed,

Larry
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