Typesetting functions
Sorry for the late post, I'm trying to catch up. I noticed that no-one posted an actual solution so here is mine. Don't hold your breath on getting these functions added to RR. I have been asking for this type of improvement to add simple text handling routines since RR 1.1 which would allow the generation of more text processing / reports applications. This is a routine that I use to generate a tabstop that will center a short line or title for each line that contains a char of my choosing in a card field called Other Data. Sorry I haven't completely commented it. Merry Christmas on doTabCenter --Align Center Command (Centers a short line or title on the field) put the lockscreen into tLockScreen lock screen put empty into fld Other Data put the tabstops of cd fld Other Data into tTabStops repeat while cd fld Other Data contains » -- This is the char I chose to indicate which lines to center put the cTabCenterLine of cd fld Other Data into tTabCenterLine --Tab location to center line / self generates put the cTabCenterLineText of cd fld Other Data into tTabCenterLineText --Tab location to center line / self generates put the item 1 of the loc of cd fld Other Data into tCenterTab put lineoffset (»,cd fld Other Data) into tLn put line tLn of cd fld Other Data into tLine put the HTMLtext of line tLn of cd fld Other Data into tmpLine put tmpLine into line tLn of tTabCenterLineText replace #9; with empty in tmpLine replace nbsp; with empty in tmpLine set the htmltext of line tLn of cd fld Other Data to tmpLine delete char offset (»,line tLn of cd fld Other Data) of line tLn of cd fld Other Data put line tLn of cd fld Other Datainto tText put the formattedWidth of line tLn of cd fld Other Data into tWidthOfTitle select word 1 of line tLn of cd fld Other Data put item 2 of the selectedLoc into tLocWordA put space » after line tLn of cd fld Other Data repeat put offset (tText, line tLn of cd fld Other Data) into tLocChar2 put before char tLocChar2 of line tLn of cd fld Other Data put offset (», line tLn of cd fld Other Data) into tLocChar3 select char (tLocChar3) of line tLn of cd fld Other Data put item 2 of the selectedLoc into tLocWordB if tLocWordA tLocWordB then exit repeat end repeat delete char (tLocChar3) of line tLn of cd fld Other Data subtract 1 from tLocChar3 put the formattedWidth of char 1 to (tLocChar3) of line tLn of cd fld Other Data into tWidthOfLine put number of chars of line tLn of cd fld Other Data into tLocChar3 delete char (tLocChar3) of line tLn of cd fld Other Data delete char 1 to ( offset (tText,line tLn of cd fld Other Data ) - 1) of line tLn of cd fld Other Data put round (tWidthOfLine / 2) into tCenterTab1 put round (tWidthOfTitle / 2) into tTabWidth1 subtract tTabWidth1 from tCenterTab1 put tCenterTab1 into line tLn of tTabCenterLine end repeat repeat for each line tCenterLine in tTabCenterLine if tCenterLine is empty then next repeat put true into tAddStop repeat with i = 1 to number of items of tTabStops -- i for each item tItem in tTabStops if item i of tTabStops = tCenterTab1 then put false into tAddStop exit repeat end if end repeat if tAddStop then if tTabStops is empty then put tCenterTab1 after tTabStops else put , tCenterTab1 after tTabStops end if sort items of tTabStops ascending numeric end repeat set the cTabCenterLine of cd fld Other Data to tTabCenterLine --Tab location to center line set the cTabCenterLineText of cd fld Other Data to tTabCenterLineText set the tabstops of cd fld Other Data to tTabStops repeat for each line tCenterTabLoc in tTabCenterLine put lineoffset (raquo;,tTabCenterLineText) into tLn if tLn = 0 then exit repeat put line tLn of tTabCenterLine into tCenterTabLoc put empty into line tLn of tTabCenterLineText if tCenterTabLoc is empty then next repeat repeat with i = 1 to number of items of tTabStops put tab before line tLn of cd fld Other Data --put the formattedWidth char 1 to ( offset (tText,line tLn of cd fld Other Data ) - 1) of line tLn of cd fld Other Data into tTextCenterAlign if item i of tTabStops = tCenterTabLoc then exit repeat end repeat end repeat set the lockscreen to tLockScreen end doTabCenter I also have a routine that will indent a wrapped line into an indented paragraph similar to the increase indent that I could post if you are interested. Dave Calkins On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Typesetting functions To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed As one who is spoiled by options for very
[ANN] Pic-a-POD released
Hi All, Just in time for Christmas, I have finally decided that my Pic-a-POD program is ready for release! Pic-a-POD downloads a picture of the day from up to three different collections and sets your desktop picture. It can then randomly change the picture at set intervals. Downloading new pictures can be scheduled to happen every day, or only when you want. You can browse through the downloads, deleting or setting the desktop as you wish. The user interface can be shrunk to a mini window if you want to save space and it can have different color themes applied. Pic-a-POD is available for Mac OS X Windows and can be downloaded from http://www.troz.net/Pic-a-POD/. It is emailware, so if you like it, let me know. Happy Christmas, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Ask Dialog
Hi Everyone, When I use: ask What's your name? with Joe Joe is selected. Is there a way to have the cursor flash after Joe and not have Joe selected? Also how do I change the rev icon to a warning icon or no icon? Joe, Orlando ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
soundSources
Which soundSource do I have to choose from the list given if I want to use a USB headset by Plantronics as input device? imic for the internal microphone works fine. Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[preANN] Custom Listbox Object
Thought I'd give everyone something to look forward to downloading in the new year.. ;-) It's a free-form custom listbox object - you interactively place the controls to be used in the listbox row. Some features are: - Multiple control types (buttons, fields, graphics, images, players, progress bars) - Has hiliting feedback - Drag Drop reordering of the list items - Multiple listboxes on a card - Graphical Builder to create your listbox row Watch for more pre-announcements before the end of this year and then watch for the releases in the new year (as well as a big fun super secret announcement to tickle everyone's fancy ^_^) _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Geoff, et al., Interesting and reasonable suggestions. Where to store the data? I always go back and forth on whether or not to store information in the object or keep yet another local database of data for objects in the session. The formatting of scripts, for instance, is kept local to Constellation to a great extent because of its size. If the data is small and it could be of use from session to session, I tend to store it in the object as an OPTION with its own preference. How to display the calling chain? This one is somewhat dictated by Constellation window real estate is quite high-priced at the moment. I, too, prefer the more literal and visual depictions as indicated in one of your emails. But the pop down menu has the advantage of appearing and disappearing upon request, thought not the perfect solution. How to place a var on the watch list? Here again, I bow to some of the UI already existent within Constellation. I have no clickable checkboxes to the left of any elements in lists. I have folders into which one may drag and drop things. I DO, however colorize a line if it is a breakpoint, so I could do that and not break the paradigms within Constellation, but then it's not as easy to see what is in your watch list if there are lots of vars. How to handle globals that are not really being used in the current handler? I'm not sure just how useful globals are if they are not being called within the handler. I have a tendency to just chuck them into a globals folder and that's that. However, I wonder why we need 50 of them if they're not being used in the handler. I'm interested in feedback and ideas on these questions...particularly that last one. Best, Jerry Daniels Ten Script Property Editors in ONE Window! http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/constellation.htm On Dec 23, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: In either scenario, indented items would be capable of collapse and expand functionality via disclosure triangles. Whadda ya think? However you like. The crucial thing for me would be to call out a list of variables for special attention. Those variables need to be easily viewable as a group. In other words, if you have a list of variable/value pairs, there needs to be some way to see the variables you're interested in without expanding the list to the height of the screen, even if those variables don't sort together automatically. Man, I'm getting less clear by the second. In Navigator you have a list of all the objects on a card, but you might be interested in only five of them. You can double-click those five objects in the list to place references to the (bookmarks) at the top of the list. Then you can ignore the rest of the list and just deal with the bookmarks. That's what I want ;-) I should point out that the debugger/variable watcher is likely the feature that would cause me to purchase Constellation. I do all of my work in Navigator, the script editor/debugger, and the message box. If Constellation replaces the debugger, I'd pretty much abandon the Rev environment entirely. (what a weird concept) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ask Dialog
Hi Joe, When I use: ask What's your name? with Joe Joe is selected. Is there a way to have the cursor flash after Joe and not have Joe selected? Not that I know of...and not that it's any of my business, but what effect are you trying to achieve? If the user is Joe, he clicks on OK and Joe is returned in it. If the user's name starts with anything other than Joe, the first three characters must be deleted if the selection point is after the name, whereas the first keystroke of the name replaces all three characters when Joe is selected. Also how do I change the rev icon to a warning icon or no icon? First, when I use your line, ask What's your name? with Joe ,I get no icon on v2.6.1 Win XP. Ask syntax is: ask [iconType] question [with defaultResponse] [with title titleText] [as sheet] with iconType being information, question, warning, error, or empty for no icon. ; so you would script-- ask question What's your name? with Joe Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Jerry, I could easily see the utility of displaying only the globals that are within the scope of the handler that is being debugged. Perhaps, the watch list could have an option to automatically add (display) all currently declared globals. Dennis On Dec 24, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: How to handle globals that are not really being used in the current handler? I'm not sure just how useful globals are if they are not being called within the handler. I have a tendency to just chuck them into a globals folder and that's that. However, I wonder why we need 50 of them if they're not being used in the handler. I'm interested in feedback and ideas on these questions...particularly that last one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bush-like weasel words about standalone
Here's a personal VW bus story... I bought my 74 Type 2 camper in Saudi Arabia in 1978. It had been purchased in Holland in 74 and driven back to Dhahran. It was then purchased in 75 by a Pakistani friend who took it to Mecca on the Hajj. I then bought it, drove it for the next 10 years in Saudi, camping at the beach in it most weekends with my 2 small sons (4 2). When it came time to leave Saudi, I said I would sell it, but my oldest son protested. He said it was his brother and I couldn't sell it. So I leased a container and shipped it back to Canada. Now 15 years later, my oldest son, now 31, still has it and is rebuilding it... Jim PS... We (and it) survived a collision with a camel coming home from the beach one weekend... on 12/21/05 11:18 PM, Scott Kane wrote: P.S. I love my VW Bus (72 Transporter converted into a Camper Bus). I've got a 76 in bright orange. It's rather a good workhorse (I DJ on weekends and use it for the sound etc). Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- OYF is... Highly resourceful people working together. http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 1959 Lower Water Street, Suite 1700, Halifax, Nova Scotia. B3J 3N2 Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 What¹s New... * Have you ever hired an employee who didn¹t work out? * Did you do that on purpose? Probably not... If you want to greatly improve your hiring process, check out our new hiring process... www.HiringSmart.ca/ns http://www.hiringsmart.ca/ns and... www.KeepingTheBest.ca/ns http://www.keepingthebest.ca/ns ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Bush-like weasel words about standalone
Sorry forgot the [OT]... Jim on 12/24/05 12:29 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote: Here's a personal VW bus story... I bought my 74 Type 2 camper in Saudi Arabia in 1978. It had been purchased in Holland in 74 and driven back to Dhahran. It was then purchased in 75 by a Pakistani friend who took it to Mecca on the Hajj. I then bought it, drove it for the next 10 years in Saudi, camping at the beach in it most weekends with my 2 small sons (4 2). When it came time to leave Saudi, I said I would sell it, but my oldest son protested. He said it was his brother and I couldn't sell it. So I leased a container and shipped it back to Canada. Now 15 years later, my oldest son, now 31, still has it and is rebuilding it... Jim PS... We (and it) survived a collision with a camel coming home from the beach one weekend... on 12/21/05 11:18 PM, Scott Kane wrote: P.S. I love my VW Bus (72 Transporter converted into a Camper Bus). I've got a 76 in bright orange. It's rather a good workhorse (I DJ on weekends and use it for the sound etc). Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- OYF is... Highly resourceful people working together. http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 1959 Lower Water Street, Suite 1700, Halifax, Nova Scotia. B3J 3N2 Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 What¹s New... * Have you ever hired an employee who didn¹t work out? * Did you do that on purpose? Probably not... If you want to greatly improve your hiring process, check out our new hiring process... www.HiringSmart.ca/ns http://www.hiringsmart.ca/ns and... www.KeepingTheBest.ca/ns http://www.keepingthebest.ca/ns ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Bush-like weasel words about standalone
Jim, That sounds like a wonderful history. You know when a friend of mine died I was 'given' a camel in the will but no one could 'find' the camel so I did not get it. Long story there but anyway I am glad I didn't since I now have no place to keep it. I was given the Farm and sadly have to sell it to pay off his debts. Camels, VWs, DJs, and Revolution. Who'd a thunk it... Tom On Dec 24, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote: Sorry forgot the [OT]... Jim on 12/24/05 12:29 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote: Here's a personal VW bus story... I bought my 74 Type 2 camper in Saudi Arabia in 1978. It had been purchased in Holland in 74 and driven back to Dhahran. It was then purchased in 75 by a Pakistani friend who took it to Mecca on the Hajj. I then bought it, drove it for the next 10 years in Saudi, camping at the beach in it most weekends with my 2 small sons (4 2). When it came time to leave Saudi, I said I would sell it, but my oldest son protested. He said it was his brother and I couldn't sell it. So I leased a container and shipped it back to Canada. Now 15 years later, my oldest son, now 31, still has it and is rebuilding it... Jim PS... We (and it) survived a collision with a camel coming home from the beach one weekend... on 12/21/05 11:18 PM, Scott Kane wrote: P.S. I love my VW Bus (72 Transporter converted into a Camper Bus). I've got a 76 in bright orange. It's rather a good workhorse (I DJ on weekends and use it for the sound etc). Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Dennis, Good idea. YAP - Yet Another Preference. I've got the process of adding prefs down to a science, now. It can take as little as 15 minutes. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: Jerry, I could easily see the utility of displaying only the globals that are within the scope of the handler that is being debugged. Perhaps, the watch list could have an option to automatically add (display) all currently declared globals. Dennis On Dec 24, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: How to handle globals that are not really being used in the current handler? I'm not sure just how useful globals are if they are not being called within the handler. I have a tendency to just chuck them into a globals folder and that's that. However, I wonder why we need 50 of them if they're not being used in the handler. I'm interested in feedback and ideas on these questions...particularly that last one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Samsung Video Codec???
On Dec 23, 2005, at 10:02 PM, Judy Perry wrote: Hi, I'm trying to help some friends offload their digital video captured to a memory stick that came with the Samsung Digital-Cam SC-D353. It shipped with PC-only software. I can see the files, they have QuickTime icons on them, but QT reports that it is an AVI file for which QT doesn't have the proper codec. Samsung's site is less than helpful... I read somewhere that it uses the SMP4 codec. Any ideas? Kindest thanks, Judy I''m not sure if you're asking about offloading or viewing, but If you're just trying to view the AVI's you might try VLC http://www.videolan.org/ -Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
I just modified my var watcher prototype to only show pertinent globals and WOW what a difference THAT makes. Far less clutter, at least from my point of view. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: Jerry, I could easily see the utility of displaying only the globals that are within the scope of the handler that is being debugged. Perhaps, the watch list could have an option to automatically add (display) all currently declared globals. Dennis On Dec 24, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: How to handle globals that are not really being used in the current handler? I'm not sure just how useful globals are if they are not being called within the handler. I have a tendency to just chuck them into a globals folder and that's that. However, I wonder why we need 50 of them if they're not being used in the handler. I'm interested in feedback and ideas on these questions...particularly that last one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Sending a fax from Revolution
Colleagues... Has anyone used a Revolution-built application to send a fax? I've seen some online fax services that use an email address, so I figure I can create a jpeg of the screen, send it as an attachment to the fax email service. Any other ideas? Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] StackRunner 1.1 Available - Now Supports Linux!
Hey everyone, a quick pre-Christmas upload to make everyone's holidays a bit brighter! (OK, maybe not grin, but I wanted to get this off my plate before the end of the year... :-) In any event, I'm pleased to announce the availability of StackRunner 1.1, which includes some bug fixes, a new Linux version, and RIP (Revolution Interoperability Project) compliancy (if you don't know what that is, visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop for more details). You can view the changes and download your copy at: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm Merry/Happy Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [preANN] Custom Listbox Object
On 12/24/05 8:23 AM, Sean Shao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought I'd give everyone something to look forward to downloading in the new year.. ;-) It's a free-form custom listbox object - you interactively place the controls to be used in the listbox row. Some features are: - Multiple control types (buttons, fields, graphics, images, players, progress bars) - Has hiliting feedback - Drag Drop reordering of the list items - Multiple listboxes on a card - Graphical Builder to create your listbox row Sweet, Sean! Watch for more pre-announcements before the end of this year and then watch for the releases in the new year (as well as a big fun super secret announcement to tickle everyone's fancy ^_^) I can hardly wait! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Jerry- Saturday, December 24, 2005, 10:03:29 AM, you wrote: Good idea. YAP - Yet Another Preference. I've got the process of adding prefs down to a science, now. It can take as little as 15 minutes. Where you might want to display all globals is the case where you've made a typo in the name of one and have accidentally ended up with two globals. Just displaying the currently-in-use globals wouldn't reveal this, but displaying the whole list would. If you have to use globals I like the idea of being able to toggle the list. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Mark, Good reason to have a folder of globals not being used in current handler. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jerry- Saturday, December 24, 2005, 10:03:29 AM, you wrote: Good idea. YAP - Yet Another Preference. I've got the process of adding prefs down to a science, now. It can take as little as 15 minutes. Where you might want to display all globals is the case where you've made a typo in the name of one and have accidentally ended up with two globals. Just displaying the currently-in-use globals wouldn't reveal this, but displaying the whole list would. If you have to use globals I like the idea of being able to toggle the list. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
speech - text-to-phoneme
Is there a method within Revolution by which text can be converted to phonemes using the (Mac-specific) function TextToPhonemes? http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/ Speech_Synthesis_Manager/Reference/reference.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/ TP3211-CH1g-F07877 (above URL likely to have wrapped). Thanks, Kurt ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Samsung Video Codec???
Thanks, Mark! Will try... Judy On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Mark Swindell wrote: I''m not sure if you're asking about offloading or viewing, but If you're just trying to view the AVI's you might try VLC http://www.videolan.org/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Question for Variable Watching folks: Why do we want a list of watched variables? I ask this because I only want to see them if their value changes. What if any value that changes is hilited? That approach would be far more economical (processing time, and real estate) AND I think it gives the desired effect--you get to watch any variable whose value changes after the execution of a line of code. But maybe I'm missing something. Before you answer that, read the next paragraph, please. NOTE for Constellation Users: If you would like to see the approach to variable watching that I just mentioned, let me know and I'll email you a non-released version of Constellation that has a free- standing (non embedded) version of this variable watcher. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Mark, Good reason to have a folder of globals not being used in current handler. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jerry- Saturday, December 24, 2005, 10:03:29 AM, you wrote: Good idea. YAP - Yet Another Preference. I've got the process of adding prefs down to a science, now. It can take as little as 15 minutes. Where you might want to display all globals is the case where you've made a typo in the name of one and have accidentally ended up with two globals. Just displaying the currently-in-use globals wouldn't reveal this, but displaying the whole list would. If you have to use globals I like the idea of being able to toggle the list. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
The distinction in many debuggers is that a Watched variable causes execution to pause (creates a breakpoint) whenever its value changes -- as opposed to displaying its value, changed or not, whenever something else (a breakpoint) pauses execution. Naturally a Watch in that sense slows execution down a whole, whole lot, so I've rarely used them. But occasionally it can be handy -- you don't really know where your code is going wonky, but you know that whenever it happens it changes this variable. Charles On Dec 24, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Question for Variable Watching folks: Why do we want a list of watched variables? I ask this because I only want to see them if their value changes. What if any value that changes is hilited? That approach would be far more economical (processing time, and real estate) AND I think it gives the desired effect--you get to watch any variable whose value changes after the execution of a line of code. But maybe I'm missing something. Before you answer that, read the next paragraph, please. NOTE for Constellation Users: If you would like to see the approach to variable watching that I just mentioned, let me know and I'll email you a non-released version of Constellation that has a free- standing (non embedded) version of this variable watcher. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Mark, Good reason to have a folder of globals not being used in current handler. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jerry- Saturday, December 24, 2005, 10:03:29 AM, you wrote: Good idea. YAP - Yet Another Preference. I've got the process of adding prefs down to a science, now. It can take as little as 15 minutes. Where you might want to display all globals is the case where you've made a typo in the name of one and have accidentally ended up with two globals. Just displaying the currently-in-use globals wouldn't reveal this, but displaying the whole list would. If you have to use globals I like the idea of being able to toggle the list. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Yes please, I'd like to give it a go. I haven't contributed to this debate because I don't feel strongly about the VW the way some do, but when in Constellation, it irks to have to step outside to use the variable watcher. It fees like it should be part of the same window, perhaps replacing some other panel during a debug. Cheers, Sarah On 12/25/05, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question for Variable Watching folks: Why do we want a list of watched variables? I ask this because I only want to see them if their value changes. What if any value that changes is hilited? That approach would be far more economical (processing time, and real estate) AND I think it gives the desired effect--you get to watch any variable whose value changes after the execution of a line of code. But maybe I'm missing something. Before you answer that, read the next paragraph, please. NOTE for Constellation Users: If you would like to see the approach to variable watching that I just mentioned, let me know and I'll email you a non-released version of Constellation that has a free- standing (non embedded) version of this variable watcher. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Mark, Good reason to have a folder of globals not being used in current handler. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jerry- Saturday, December 24, 2005, 10:03:29 AM, you wrote: Good idea. YAP - Yet Another Preference. I've got the process of adding prefs down to a science, now. It can take as little as 15 minutes. Where you might want to display all globals is the case where you've made a typo in the name of one and have accidentally ended up with two globals. Just displaying the currently-in-use globals wouldn't reveal this, but displaying the whole list would. If you have to use globals I like the idea of being able to toggle the list. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
As Charles said, true watched variables' are those being tracked intensively and define a breakpoint, but VW is more like an 'inspector', therefore I think you mean... .. if any of the inspector-visible variables change, they are updated and highlighted, rather than update all each cycle. Yes, to emailing the DMVW. I will look at it tonight (6 pm now, and will be at the computer this evening and tomorrow. Jim :-) PS Don't know if you got my other email off list about being available over the next several days for this debug.. but I will. Question for Variable Watching folks: Why do we want a list of watched variables? I ask this because I only want to see them if their value changes. Not sure what you mean by this.. changes from when to when? Step to step, or break to break? What if any value that changes is hilited? That approach would be far more economical (processing time, and real estate) AND I think it gives the desired effect--you get to watch any variable whose value changes after the execution of a line of code. Downside to this is to confirm settings or globals that determine conditionals, so there can be a referal (esp TF, flags, and arrays that are used for value sources, eg list of colors. But maybe I'm missing something. Before you answer that, read the next paragraph, please. NOTE for Constellation Users: If you would like to see the approach to variable watching that I just mentioned, let me know and I'll email you a non-released version of Constellation that has a free- standing (non embedded) version of this variable watcher. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Jerry, The reason I wanted a watched variables folder was not because I expected execution to stop if any value changed, it was because I have so many variables, that I wanted to reduce the widow area needed to see all the variables I needed to see in order to debug the suspect area of a script. Half of my variables are arrays (large ones) --and globals at that. So any of these methods that allow a reduced set of variables to be visible at once are of interest to me. Many times I am desk checking the result of a variable that has changed against the variables used in the calculation, so even though the input variable values did not change, I still want to see their values. Dennis PS. Please send me the test version also and I will see how I like it. On Dec 24, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Question for Variable Watching folks: Why do we want a list of watched variables? I ask this because I only want to see them if their value changes. What if any value that changes is hilited? That approach would be far more economical (processing time, and real estate) AND I think it gives the desired effect--you get to watch any variable whose value changes after the execution of a line of code. But maybe I'm missing something. Before you answer that, read the next paragraph, please. NOTE for Constellation Users: If you would like to see the approach to variable watching that I just mentioned, let me know and I'll email you a non-released version of Constellation that has a free- standing (non embedded) version of this variable watcher. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Sarah, As I said below, the Variable watcher I was talking about is not embedded yet, but is freestanding. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 7:47 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Yes please, I'd like to give it a go. I haven't contributed to this debate because I don't feel strongly about the VW the way some do, but when in Constellation, it irks to have to step outside to use the variable watcher. It fees like it should be part of the same window, perhaps replacing some other panel during a debug. Cheers, Sarah On 12/25/05, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question for Variable Watching folks: Why do we want a list of watched variables? I ask this because I only want to see them if their value changes. What if any value that changes is hilited? That approach would be far more economical (processing time, and real estate) AND I think it gives the desired effect--you get to watch any variable whose value changes after the execution of a line of code. But maybe I'm missing something. Before you answer that, read the next paragraph, please. NOTE for Constellation Users: If you would like to see the approach to variable watching that I just mentioned, let me know and I'll email you a non-released version of Constellation that has a free- standing (non embedded) version of this variable watcher. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Mark, Good reason to have a folder of globals not being used in current handler. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jerry- Saturday, December 24, 2005, 10:03:29 AM, you wrote: Good idea. YAP - Yet Another Preference. I've got the process of adding prefs down to a science, now. It can take as little as 15 minutes. Where you might want to display all globals is the case where you've made a typo in the name of one and have accidentally ended up with two globals. Just displaying the currently-in-use globals wouldn't reveal this, but displaying the whole list would. If you have to use globals I like the idea of being able to toggle the list. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
It seems there are two requests... - one to make a variable whose value has just changed to be easy to see and - another to stop execution, like a breakpoint. Right? Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 8:09 PM, Dennis Brown wrote: Jerry, The reason I wanted a watched variables folder was not because I expected execution to stop if any value changed, it was because I have so many variables, that I wanted to reduce the widow area needed to see all the variables I needed to see in order to debug the suspect area of a script. Half of my variables are arrays (large ones) --and globals at that. So any of these methods that allow a reduced set of variables to be visible at once are of interest to me. Many times I am desk checking the result of a variable that has changed against the variables used in the calculation, so even though the input variable values did not change, I still want to see their values. Dennis PS. Please send me the test version also and I will see how I like it. On Dec 24, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Question for Variable Watching folks: Why do we want a list of watched variables? I ask this because I only want to see them if their value changes. What if any value that changes is hilited? That approach would be far more economical (processing time, and real estate) AND I think it gives the desired effect--you get to watch any variable whose value changes after the execution of a line of code. But maybe I'm missing something. Before you answer that, read the next paragraph, please. NOTE for Constellation Users: If you would like to see the approach to variable watching that I just mentioned, let me know and I'll email you a non-released version of Constellation that has a free-standing (non embedded) version of this variable watcher. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
On 12/24/05 7:30 PM, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems there are two requests... - one to make a variable whose value has just changed to be easy to see and yes - another to stop execution, like a breakpoint. (not for me) I care less about auto stop, since I have rarely used this even in apps that allow it. I usually debug certain functions or loops, get them working, document them in the code and move to a different problem. Most useful is to see a subset of the variables in use in the top group, NOT hiding the ones that I have assumed I don't have to inspect, then find out that, yes, I did need to note the 'flag or status or array', etc. My desired interface would be: arrowFlag | true backNav | cd id 1003 countOfImages | 13 lastImgID | 1244 it | daffodill potColor | terricotta potStyle | glazed potColorsArr | array * soilList | loam cr clay cr rubber cr sand the * is a flag, set by my click during debug session, where this variable would show its full contents in the lower pane so I could view the building of the list, or the result of the replace series, Does this make sense? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
I think (though I've certainly never written a debugger) that true watch-points would be a whole lot harder to write. And they're by no means as often useful. I'd let that go at least for now. Charles On Dec 24, 2005, at 10:30 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: It seems there are two requests... - one to make a variable whose value has just changed to be easy to see and - another to stop execution, like a breakpoint. Right? Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 24, 2005, at 8:09 PM, Dennis Brown wrote: Jerry, The reason I wanted a watched variables folder was not because I expected execution to stop if any value changed, it was because I have so many variables, that I wanted to reduce the widow area needed to see all the variables I needed to see in order to debug the suspect area of a script. Half of my variables are arrays (large ones) --and globals at that. So any of these methods that allow a reduced set of variables to be visible at once are of interest to me. Many times I am desk checking the result of a variable that has changed against the variables used in the calculation, so even though the input variable values did not change, I still want to see their values. Dennis PS. Please send me the test version also and I will see how I like it. On Dec 24, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Question for Variable Watching folks: Why do we want a list of watched variables? I ask this because I only want to see them if their value changes. What if any value that changes is hilited? That approach would be far more economical (processing time, and real estate) AND I think it gives the desired effect--you get to watch any variable whose value changes after the execution of a line of code. But maybe I'm missing something. Before you answer that, read the next paragraph, please. NOTE for Constellation Users: If you would like to see the approach to variable watching that I just mentioned, let me know and I'll email you a non-released version of Constellation that has a free-standing (non embedded) version of this variable watcher. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging and the execution path
Jerry- Saturday, December 24, 2005, 7:30:31 PM, you wrote: It seems there are two requests... - one to make a variable whose value has just changed to be easy to see and - another to stop execution, like a breakpoint. Setting a breakpoint when a watched variable hits a given value is *very* useful. Let's say I have a repeat loop that goes through 500 iterations and it's the 325th iteration of data that I want to see. Without this feature I'd have to step through my repeat loop hitting the Step button 325 times and being careful not to hit it 326 times or I'd have to start all over again. Or I'd have to insert a line of code saying if myVar=myTargetValue then breakpoint. Ideally I'd like to be able to set a checkmark next to the variable to enable a breakpoint when it changes, or changes to a specific value. Otherwise it would just display the data. Best of all worlds. I don't really see this as two separate requests. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
