Re: OSX Appearance?
Arthur, I've posted this some days ago. --- Tired of manually copying the Plugins folder each time I test my app building a new standalone, I've made a little script to automate this task. Put it in a button handler, if you want. on mouseUp -- put below your actual Revolution application path put /Applications/Revolution Studio/2.7.0-gm-1/Revolution.app into revPath answer file Choose your app to add plugins: with /Applications/Revolution Studio/ put it into filePath set cursor to watch put /Contents/PlugIns/ after filePath put /Contents/PlugIns/ after revPath revCopyFolder revPathcoreimage_support.bundle,filePath revCopyFolder revPathjaguar_theme_support.bundle,filePath revCopyFolder revPathpanther_theme_support.bundle,filePath revCopyFolder revPathtiger_theme_support.bundle,filePath get the result if it empty then answer it -- some error? end mouseUp Greetings Paul Claude on 19-04-2006 2:24, Arthur Urban at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I almost hate to ask this, but I'm tired of digging through the docs today... I just built my first standalone for XP and OSX. Under OSX, the app runs just fine, but the none of the controls appear in the Aqua style; looks more like classic to my eye. I built this under XP...what did I miss? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ruby Active Record
Thanks, Ken. FOund it. But at those prices, I think Ill stay far, far away. Yikes. On 4/19/06, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06 12:50 AM, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any support there for Revolution. Is it hiding? Click the Downloads link in the toolbar, then scroll down -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
Hi Nicholas, If you contact me off-list, Economy-x-Talk.com can create a solution for you. Best regards, Mark Nicholas Thieberger wrote: I am trying to enter Unicode in a field. I have set the 'use unicode' to true in a startup script as follows: set the useunicode to true set the textFont of field Text to Gentium,UTF8 This has the effect of making all the characters in the field appear in a Chinese script. This is not my desired outcome! Any suggestions welcome! Thanks, Nick -- Consultant and Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.economy-x-talk.com eHUG coordinator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ehug.info Advertise with us and reach 1000 truely interested internet users every month. See http://economy-x-talk.com/advertise.html for more information. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filling data fields from a multiple choice list - Closing Thread
Hi Sarah, From the situation I was in (fields already defined and filled), it took me 10 minutes (chrono en main as they say here). Brilliant ! Thanks so much. Sometimes Revolution can look so complex (I have given up on trying to fathom out some of the coding I see in this forum). But sometimes, it can be so simple . and elegant ... ! One more step to making my stack look professional ! And the understanding of one more powerful command to be used in future stacks. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] on mouseUp put field List of card 1 into button Popup popup button Popup at the mouseLoc end mouseUp Then script the popup button: on menuPick pChoice -- pChoice contains the selected item from the popup menu -- so now do what you usually do when someone clicks -- on the list field in card 1 end menuPick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack file format change in 2.7 - BACK UP!
Hi All, I really can't understand all the mystery surrounding this fix to allow backwards compatibility. As far as I understand it, there is a way to tell the engine to save in the old format or the new format, with version 2.7 defaulting to the newer format. That all sounds reasonable. What I can't understand is why how to do it is a secret? There is a protected IDE plug-in available that allows you to save in either format, but since it is protected, the details are hidden. There is no real mention of it on the RunRev Web Site or in the Documentation as far as I can see. Leaving this hanging like this is just bound to lead to problems IMO. Problems that could be so easily avoided just by either shipping the PlugIn with the release, or having an IDE command or preference to select it or by just documenting exactly how to do it. Anyone have any ideas on this mystery? All the Best Dave Before I panic everyone on the list for the second time today, there's a way to back out of this change and make the stack 2.4 compatible again, but you'll lose any 2.7 features if you do it. The info was not included in the What's New file, so I'm not sure if it's okay to post it here. To be safe, just plan on working on duplicates. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack file format change in 2.7 - BACK UP!
Hi Dave, I had contacted Mark a bit ago about the stackFileVersion property and he said it's ok to mention it, but it might be renamed or go away later, so it's not officially supported. If you click the 'update' button on the StackFormat plugin of mine, you'll download a new version which isn't protected. You can look in the checkbox script to see how to set this global property. Or, if you don't have it just type into your message box: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/StackFormat.rev; best, Chipp David Burgun wrote: Anyone have any ideas on this mystery? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] To all who cantacted me recently...
Hello, Just before Easter, I had a crashing hard disk, which is definitely completely unrecoverable, and I had to rely on a backup. As a result, I lost some data, including quite a few e-mails. If you contacted me recently and haven't got a reply yet, please send me a copy of your e-mail. Thanks, Mark -- Consultant and Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.economy-x-talk.com eHUG coordinator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ehug.info Advertise with us and reach 1000 truely interested internet users every month. See http://economy-x-talk.com/advertise.html for more information. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack file format change in 2.7 - BACK UP!
I think saving in the pre-2.7 format is available in the upcoming release. gc On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:41 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi All, I really can't understand all the mystery surrounding this fix to allow backwards compatibility. As far as I understand it, there is a way to tell the engine to save in the old format or the new format, with version 2.7 defaulting to the newer format. That all sounds reasonable. What I can't understand is why how to do it is a secret? There is a protected IDE plug-in available that allows you to save in either format, but since it is protected, the details are hidden. There is no real mention of it on the RunRev Web Site or in the Documentation as far as I can see. Leaving this hanging like this is just bound to lead to problems IMO. Problems that could be so easily avoided just by either shipping the PlugIn with the release, or having an IDE command or preference to select it or by just documenting exactly how to do it. Anyone have any ideas on this mystery? All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
HTML
Has anybody built a stack to take cards and convert them into HTML? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
PIM
WAAAY back in the day I used to use Connections, which was a PIM product that ran in HC. I'm incredibly unhappy with all the PIM's I've used since, so I'm thinking of killing myself cranking one out. Do we have an RR based PIM somewhere? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PIM
On 4/20/06 8:57 AM, Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WAAAY back in the day I used to use Connections, which was a PIM product that ran in HC. I'm incredibly unhappy with all the PIM's I've used since, so I'm thinking of killing myself cranking one out. Do we have an RR based PIM somewhere? Not for general consumption, AFAIK. There's a vertical market PIM solution for agents and managers in the entertainment industry here: http://www.inentertainment.com/ But other than that, I'm not aware of any... perhaps someone else will chime in on this thread... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Choosing a printer form a script
I need to have two printers one is a label printer and the other is a ticket printer is there any way I can select which printer is used in a script Thanks Liam Ireland ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Choosing a printer form a script
I should have said that I am using a mac. Liam ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
GEDCOM and Rev
Before I re-invent the wheel, has anyone done any work on a GEDCOM 5.5 exporter/parser/importer for Revolution or a Rev-based GEDCOM/XML translator/manipulator? /H PS: If you don't know the GEDCOM file format, be happy! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setup a Scrollbar?
Hi Scott, My problem is getting the thumb correctly sized so, for example, if the field holds 14 items and the lines number 15, you get a fairly large thumb, instead of the tiny version when its size is set to 1. If you are working with a scrolling field, the thumbSize adjusts automatically to the amount of text in the field. Create a scrolling field with the formattedHeight of the text = to the the field's adjusted height...there will be no visible thumb. Add one line of text and you have a fat thumb that gets slimmer with each line added to the field. If you are using a scrollBar control instead of a scrolling field, this works for moi: set the thumbSize of scrollBar Index Scroll to trunc(maxSize*(visibleLines/linesOfImages)) get visibleLines * imageHeight set the pageInc of scrollBar Index Scroll to it set the lineInc of scrollBar Index Scroll to imageHeight Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setup a Scrollbar?
Malte, Scott, et al: pageInc: 1 lineInc: 1 From Rev Dictionary: Use the pageIncrement property to change the amount that is scrolled when the gray region is clicked. Use the lineIncrement property to change the amount that is scrolled when the scrollbar arrows are clicked. Do you really want the scroll limited to one pixel in these cases? lineInc should = the height of one line of scrolling text or objects pageInc should = lineInc * the number of visible lines of text or objects Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack file format change in 2.7 - BACK UP!
David Burgun wrote: I really can't understand all the mystery surrounding this fix to allow backwards compatibility. The beta testers know about it (if you purchase Enterprise, you are automatically on that list,) but the details were pulled from the final release for a number of reasons. However the upcoming 2.7.1 has an interface that allows you to save in either file format. It isn't really a secret, RR just doesn't support its use yet. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ask Password
Jeff Honken wrote: I have a user that is using one of my compiled .exe's. He's running WinXP Home addition. He claims he can't see the password field in the application. None else has complained of this but He's described it to me clearly so I believe him. Does anyone know why he couldn't see the password field but can see the text Please Enter your Password and the ok and cancel buttons. I've compiled under 2.6.1. I'm using: ask password clear Please Enter your Password How odd. The only thing I can think of is to ask your user to install the latest video drivers for his machine. Maybe that's the problem. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode
Nicholas, The way to enter unicode text into a field is to choose a non-Latin input method using your OS's native tools. In other words, place your cursor in the field, then switch to the language you want to type in just as you would in any application. Revolution will automatically set the textfont for you. Once you're done, the field's unicodetext property will contain, well, the unicode text for that field. The tricky part of using unicode in Revolution is not the entering, but the subsequent manipulation of the unicode text--grabbing chunks, moving it from field to field, saving, etc. See my web site at http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/ unicodeInRev.html for some notes on how to work with unicode. You can see some working examples in my stack unicodeTrials.rev. Just enter in the message box: go stack url http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/ unicodeTrials.rev HTH. Devin On Apr 19, 2006, at 7:32 PM, Nicholas Thieberger wrote: I am trying to enter Unicode in a field. I have set the 'use unicode' to true in a startup script as follows: set the useunicode to true set the textFont of field Text to Gentium,UTF8 This has the effect of making all the characters in the field appear in a Chinese script. This is not my desired outcome! Any suggestions welcome! Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Checking if the network has changed
Hi I'm trying to find a reliable (ish) way to know if a computer is connected to the same network as it was the previous time the application was opened. The situation is for an educational program that requires connecting to an internet server. Users may run the program from work and/or from home. Connecting from work requires using a proxy. My concern is with laptop users who use the same computer to connect from both work and home. I'd like to be able to have the program use a preconfigured proxy setting when used from work, and no proxy (or a user-configured proxy) when used from home. Right now, I'm thinking of using the following to determine if the network has changed since the last session: get hostNameToAddress(the hostname) The idea would be to store the result between sessions, and compare at each new session. If the values are different, ask the user to confirm the location. If anyone knows of any problems with this, or knows of a better solution, I'd be grateful. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Right-Align Cell Values in Tables
Am I correct that there is no way to right-justify individual values in cells (i.e., numbers)? When I apply the right-align formatting to a table, it actually seems to work on a *line* basis, causing the values to jump the boundaries of their cells. Same thing with centering. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT audio question - .asf files
I'm trying to play back some educational .asf files I've downloaded. Video works fine on all of them, but no audio playback on some of them (others work fine). All audio seems to work on Windows. I'm using OSX 10.6, and Quicktime 7.0.4 with current WMV player or VLC. This is the message I get from VLC: main: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `undf'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format. If anyone has any idea about what I might do to get audio, I'd love to hear. Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Custom sorting question
I know this should be possible, but I'm having a heckuva time getting it to work. I want to sort some data that looks like this when it comes out of the database, put into variable tRawData (the white spaces are tabs; the random characters are unicode data, waiting to be uniencoded into a field): 26 –±–∞¬¥–±—É—à–∫–∞ grandmother –ë–∞¬¥–±—É—à–∫–∞ –∂–∏–≤—ë—Ç —É –Ω–∞—Å –≤ –∫–≤–∞—Ä—Ç–∏¬¥—Ä–µ. grandma 54 –±—Ä–∞—Ç brother –≠¬¥—Ç–æ –º–æ–∏¬¥ –±—Ä–∞—Ç –∏ —Å–µ—Å—Ç—Ä–∞¬¥. brother 110 –≤–Ω—É–∫ grandson –í–æ—Ç –º–æ–π –¥–µ¬¥–¥—É—à–∫–∞. –°–∞¬¥—à–∞ —Ç–æ¬ ¥–∂–µ –µ–≥–欥 –≤–Ω—É–∫. grandson 111 –≤–Ω—É¬¥—á–∫–∞ granddaughter –ó–¥–µ—Å—å –∂–∏–≤—É—Ç –ö—Ä—É–≥–ª–欥– ≤—ã. –ò—Ö –≤–Ω—É¬¥—á–∫–∞ —ǖ欥–∂–µ –∂–∏–≤—ë—Ç –∑–¥–µ—Å—å. granddaughter 149 –í—Å—ë —Ö–æ—Ä–æ—à–æ,—á—Ç–æ —Ö–æ—Ä–æ—à–æ –∫–æ–Ω—á–∞–µ—Ç—Å—è. All's well that ends well. –í—Å—ë —Ö–æ—Ä–æ—à–欥, —á—Ç–æ —Ö–æ—Ä–æ—à–欥 –∫– æ–Ω—á–∞¬¥–µ—Ç—Å—è. Allswellthatendswell 250 –¥–µ¬¥–≤–æ—á–∫–∞ little girl –ú–æ—謥 —Å–µ—Å—Ç—Ä–∞¬¥ –µ—â—ë –º–∞¬ ¥–ª–µ–Ω—å–∫–∞—è –¥–µ¬¥–≤–æ—á–∫–∞. littlegirl 259 –¥–µ¬¥–¥—É—à–∫–∞ grandfather –ú–æ–π –¥–µ¬¥–¥—É—à–∫–∞ —ǖ欥–∂–µ – ∂–∏–≤—ë—Ç –∑–¥–µ—Å—å. grandfather 272 –¥–µ¬¥—Ç–∏ children –ù–∞¬¥—à–∏ –¥–µ¬¥—Ç–∏ –欥—á–µ–Ω—å –±—㬥—Å—Ç— Ä–æ —Ä–∞—ŗǗɬ¥—Ç. children 314 –¥–æ—á—å daughter –≠¬¥—Ç–æ –ù–∞—Ç–∞¬¥–ª—å—è –ò–≤–∞¬¥–Ω–æ–≤–Ω–∞. – õ–µ¬¥–Ω–∞ –µ—ë –¥–æ—á—å. daughter Another variable, lSortOrder, contains the order I want the lines to appear: 259,26,110,111,272,314,149,250,54 I read the dictionary entry for 'sort container' carefully, and found a couple of sample scripts for similar things from old use-rev postings. This is what I came up with, but it didn't do what I want. I think it boils down to my not understanding how to create custom sort orders. local lCount,lSortOrder on updateList ## sort the rawLessonData by item 1 of each line, according to the term list put the rawLessonData of fld vocablist into tRawData put 59,26,110,111,272,314,149,250,54 into lSortOrder put 0 into lCount sort lines of tRawData by termOrderSort(each) -- do stuff with the sorted list end updateList function termOrderSort add 1 to lCount return item lCount of lSortOrder end termOrderSort Can anyone advise me? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future
Stephen Barncard wrote: Hell, I don't want to start a platform war on this list - the thing is that Rev brings us together - and platform wars are boring and stupid. - Yes, we're all a bit up tight. But I wouldn't call a mildly argumentative discussion war, at least not yet! The great thing about the difficult art of democracy is that we become united through our differences. Though I have no experience of Macs, if I lived in a first-world country, it would be one of the first things I'd buy, hoping that the higher price would bring me advantages in terms of quality and stability. But I don't live in a first world country. Even a much cheaper PC represents a year's salary to the majority of the population. Macs ARE used, but only usually by companies etc. who have the need and the means to make the investment. Until my American neighbour brought back a Mac from the States, I had never even SEEN a Mac! Stephen Barncard wrote: As far as price of Macs in Brazil; I'm sure that Brazil imposes severe tariffs placed on computers from the USA, and I think that the Brazil PC 'manufacturers' would get quite an advantage - even though made from parts from 'over there'. --- I am not disputing what you are saying, because I really don't know. But what I would like to know is why PCs imported from the United States (among other places) do not seem to suffer the same tariffs. (Or is that wrong too?) Of course, if you have good reason for affirming that Brazil imposes severe tariffs placed on computers from the USA, then I would be very interested in knowing what that reason is. The only point I am interested in making is that as far as I see it, PC+Linux is the only viable future solution for ordinary users in a country like Brazil, and I fully intend to help them achieve it. And the more support I get for this movement in terms of reliable programming under the Linux OS, the better I like it. Regards, Bob Warren ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installing and Using Revolution as a CGI on Tierra.Net (was Dreamhost)
I'm trying to find a new web host where I can install Rev and I need the Miva shopping cart. Anybody out there know of anything? I'm currently using Websitesource and just discovered that they're blocking access from people using Shaw Cable (a big provider in Canada). Websitesource's tech support is slow and not very helpful. They also won't allow installation of Rev unless I get a virtual private server. I currently have 2 sites that use Miva 4 and am not too excited about switching/learning something else. Thanks for any input, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PIM
Recently, Mikey wrote: WAAAY back in the day I used to use Connections, which was a PIM product that ran in HC. I'm incredibly unhappy with all the PIM's I've used since, so I'm thinking of killing myself cranking one out. Do we have an RR based PIM somewhere? If you can live with a free-form implementation, you can try one I put together several years ago. Execute the following in your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/intouch_x.rev; As stated above, this does not assign specific fields for name, address, phone, etc, but instead has 3 resizable panes that contain an index, a data field, and a notes field (in reality the fields can contain anything). The stack is incomplete (printing is not implemented for example), but you're welcome to to take what you need if it helps. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML
Mikey- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 6:56:00 AM, you wrote: Has anybody built a stack to take cards and convert them into HTML? I've thought about doing this, but somehow I never seem to get around to it. I'd be delighted if somebody else would do it instead. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Yeah, it seems crazy these days to actually have to *pay* for a database. But there are reasons why people still make decisions that allow Larry Ellison to by another small island in the Caribbean (and why people would pay $$ for FrontBase). We use it as an excellent fit for our WebObjects applications. And in the past MySQL has been quite problematic for any kind of applications that require a lot of updating rather than lots of simple reads (as you get in web apps). FrontBase is also completely SQL92 compliant which is rare. Anyway, I don't want to get into the usual database wars here, nor is it the place. I've been happy with FrontBase, PostgreSQL, MySQL, and others. It was, though, quite nice to see a fairly small db vendor provide runrev support. Cheers, Russ McBride Programmer/Analyst The Scholar's Workstation University of California at Berkeley 510-643-6853 On Apr 19, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Thanks, Ken. FOund it. But at those prices, I think Ill stay far, far away. Yikes. On 4/19/06, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/20/06 12:50 AM, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any support there for Revolution. Is it hiding? Click the Downloads link in the toolbar, then scroll down -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Custom sorting question
See if this helps - the idea is you need your function to return the position you want that item in. ... sort lines of tRawData numeric by termOrderSort(each) ... function termOrderSort pTerm return itemOffset(item 1 of pTerm, lSortOrder) end termOrderSort ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future
Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Paris, Just a minor point about Brazil, apart from it being the most fantastic country. Anything that is imported into Brazil costs an arm and a leg, due to exhorbitant import taxes. The basic idea is, Buy Brazilian (even when it doesn't exist). I remember arriving in Brazil to do a 2 week course, with my course supports, and (because I have had experience with African countries) carrying 20 note pads, 20 rubbers - sorry erasers !, 20 pens, etc. for my students, not forgetting the board markers in many colours. They were all confiscated, because I was told that all these things exist in Brazil, so go out and buy them. The customs even wanted to confiscate 19 of my 20 course supports on the basis that Brazil had photocopying machines !! BUSINESS LOGIC DON'T COUNT !! Don't get me wrong, Brazil has more to offer than inconveniences, and I love the place to bits ! It's just a way to promote local industry. ... but then the protectionist activities of other countries aren't bad either -- I'm shocked! I humbly apologise on behalf of my adopted country. It must have been because of the quantities involved, and they suspected that you really intended to sell them within Brazil before leaving. Is it just a way to promote local industry really, or could it have been some kind of retaliation because of the protectionist practices of other countries? What is good for the goose is good for the gander. I wouldn't know about importing stuff, because I haven't had the money to do it for quite a long time now. Anyway, that gets us on to politics, so I'll now try to gracefully bow out of the discussion. The problem is that there is no such thing as a technical, Revolution oriented topic. Everything is embedded. Bob Warren ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Custom sorting question
Devin Asay wrote: I read the dictionary entry for 'sort container' carefully, and found a couple of sample scripts for similar things from old use-rev postings. This is what I came up with, but it didn't do what I want. I think it boils down to my not understanding how to create custom sort orders. local lCount,lSortOrder on updateList ## sort the rawLessonData by item 1 of each line, according to the term list put the rawLessonData of fld vocablist into tRawData put 59,26,110,111,272,314,149,250,54 into lSortOrder put 0 into lCount sort lines of tRawData by termOrderSort(each) -- do stuff with the sorted list end updateList function termOrderSort add 1 to lCount return item lCount of lSortOrder end termOrderSort Can anyone advise me? The way it is now, termOrderSort is returning a number from the item list (such as 259), and the lines will sort numerically using those numbers. What you want is for 259 to be returned as 1 and 26 to be returned as 2, etc. Then the sort works. So do this: local lSortOrder -- this is the only local you need on updateList put the rawLessonData of fld vocablist into tRawData put 259,26,110,111,272,314,149,250,54 into lSortOrder sort lines of tRawData by termOrderSort(word 1 of each) -- do stuff with the sorted list end updateList function termOrderSort tNum return itemoffset(tNum, lSortOrder) -- this returns 1,2,3,4,5,etc end termOrderSort Using word 1 of each sends the actual number in your raw data to the sort function. The sort function gets the item offset of that number from the sort order list. It returns that offset as an integer that will force the data to sort in the proper order; that is, 259 becomes 1, etc. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installing and Using Revolution as a CGI on Tierra.Net (was Dreamhost)
Dreamhost has Miva and it is fairly simple to setup rev www.dreamhost.com Todd On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Marty Knapp wrote: I'm trying to find a new web host where I can install Rev and I need the Miva shopping cart. Anybody out there know of anything? I'm currently using Websitesource and just discovered that they're blocking access from people using Shaw Cable (a big provider in Canada). Websitesource's tech support is slow and not very helpful. They also won't allow installation of Rev unless I get a virtual private server. I currently have 2 sites that use Miva 4 and am not too excited about switching/learning something else. -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML
There already is a stack doing this: HTML exporter Check http://revolution.widged.com/stacks/index.php (somewhere at the bottom of the page) greetings, William 2006/4/20, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mikey- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 6:56:00 AM, you wrote: Has anybody built a stack to take cards and convert them into HTML? I've thought about doing this, but somehow I never seem to get around to it. I'd be delighted if somebody else would do it instead. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
On 4/20/06 9:42 PM, Russ McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, it seems crazy these days to actually have to *pay* for a database. Wow. What an interesting point of view !!! :-) Hmm, why not say: it seems crazy to pay for Revolution or other RAD tools it seems crazy to pay for compilers it seems crazy to pay for MS Office it seems crazy to pay for Adobe products. People. You ARE developers. Please stop this evil and crazy ideas of free software! It will throw programming industry into death. Believe you into this or no. I am related to universities, and I know that last 5 years many smart guys which COULD be good and cool programmers (by their school activity) have choose other specialty. Reasons? Simple: A) They listen SUCH danger discussions about free software... And they make conclusions...They do not want work in future for free. So - NOT PROFITABLE. B) today all major software exists. No chances invent and implement something really new and cool. So - NOT INTERESTING. This is why I have so wonder to read these words from Russ, who have .edu, even if it is berkely.edu Russ, sooner or later even berkeley will start see reduction of egg-head guys, if continue with such propaganda. Think about this... I wonder that so many developer like to use for example free dbs, and other software but still SALE own job and own products. Hmm. Somehow not honest? IF you use e.g. free mySQL (which is not free btw!) then make YOUR software free also. May be this will be a fair step? Why you think that your application is at least 1 cent more valuable of mySQL or Postgre, which have 20-25 years of development story. But there are reasons why people still make decisions that allow Larry Ellison to by another small island in the Caribbean IMHO Larry is a great manager first of all, like the Bill. That explains all. I believe that if you replace Larry by somebody else, Oracle will start go down very fast. Some people can sale everything. Others are not able sale even gold in hands. Just my 0.02 :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installing and Using Revolution as a CGI on Tierra.Net (was Dreamhost)
Ah - I see it (don't know how I missed that!). I was only looking at their $7.95 plan. The Code Monster plan has Miva. I've fired off an email to them to see if they can install Miva 4 for me. It sounds like a number of folks here are using them - any complaints? Marty Knapp Dreamhost has Miva and it is fairly simple to setup rev www.dreamhost.com Todd On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Marty Knapp wrote: I'm trying to find a new web host where I can install Rev and I need the Miva shopping cart. Anybody out there know of anything? I'm currently using Websitesource and just discovered that they're blocking access from people using Shaw Cable (a big provider in Canada). Websitesource's tech support is slow and not very helpful. They also won't allow installation of Rev unless I get a virtual private server. I currently have 2 sites that use Miva 4 and am not too excited about switching/learning something else. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Checking if the network has changed
Dave Cragg wrote: Hi I'm trying to find a reliable (ish) way to know if a computer is connected to the same network as it was the previous time the application was opened. The situation is for an educational program that requires connecting to an internet server. Users may run the program from work and/or from home. Connecting from work requires using a proxy. My concern is with laptop users who use the same computer to connect from both work and home. I'd like to be able to have the program use a preconfigured proxy setting when used from work, and no proxy (or a user-configured proxy) when used from home. Right now, I'm thinking of using the following to determine if the network has changed since the last session: get hostNameToAddress(the hostname) The idea would be to store the result between sessions, and compare at each new session. If the values are different, ask the user to confirm the location. If anyone knows of any problems with this, or knows of a better solution, I'd be grateful. I see two problems (at first glance - I see another shadow lurking off in the far distance, but I need to think more about it). Problem 1. (A real problem that you will hit, but not a showstopper) You will get false positives from this test, so you will ask the user to confirm location unnecessarily. Assuming the laptops are using DHCP to get their addresses, then even a simple network at work will give the possibility of changing address when reconnecting, and a home network using a modern broadband router with the increasingly typical case of multiple home PCs will do the same at home. So depending on the kind of education establishment, and how their networks are set up, this is somewhere between likely and inevitable. But the cost is only an extra user interaction (and possibly the users thinking the system is a bit dumb). Problem 2. Much less likely, but more serious. There is always a chance of getting the same address dynamically assigned in both locations. If the work networks are typically larger, or more complex, then this may be impossible - but if your customer base includes small schools, and if they behave like typical small businesses, then they may well use 192.168.1.1/24 as well, allowing for the possibility of address clashes with addresses assigned at home. This would of course lead to believing that location had not changed, when it actually had done - so making the wrong choice about whether to use the proxy. Other alternatives. These may or may not be useful suggestions depending on info you may or may not have about the kind of networks involved. In particular, is the preconfigured proxy preconfigured as an ip address, a host name or something else (e.g. a two-step config via web access, etc.) If the proxy is known to be on the same network as the laptops (i.e. not just within the same campus network, but actually on the same subnet), then you could check for a direct connection to it (using ARP from the shell). If it will be on the same campus, but not necessarily on the same subnet, then you can make an approximation using ping results. I've uploaded to revonline a sample stack with a script to do either of these. Note for the second method you need to know, or make an assumption, about the campus network diameter - if you're targetting schools you can probably use 3 or 4, but if you include larger universities then you may need to go up to 8 or 15, at which point there is a small danger of false positives. revonline : username alextweedly : stack IP Address Checks : category programming Note also the comments about firewalled hosts which do not respond to pings. (Lurking danger - VPNs can confuse any or all of these schemes, so if you have people taking laptops home and making a VPN connection to the campus net, it could be infeasible to do any of these schemes, including the one you currently use, since you could have a hostname/hostaddress from your home net, but have all your packets routed via the VPN and hence (perhaps) need to use the proxy. Depends on whether using the proxy is a matter of policy or technology) -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 18/04/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Custom sorting question
Thanks to Brian and Jacque, who supplied the key piece of information that the docs don't make clear. The Rev dictionary vaguely says To create a custom sort order, use the each keyword to pass each line or item to a custom function. The value returned by the function is used as the sort key for that line or item. Brian and Jacque put it much more clearly: On Apr 20, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Brian Yennie wrote: See if this helps - the idea is you need your function to return the position you want that item in. On Apr 20, 2006, at 12:55 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: The way it is now, termOrderSort is returning a number from the item list (such as 259), and the lines will sort numerically using those numbers. What you want is for 259 to be returned as 1 and 26 to be returned as 2, etc. Then the sort works. ... Using word 1 of each sends the actual number in your raw data to the sort function. The sort function gets the item offset of that number from the sort order list. It returns that offset as an integer that will force the data to sort in the proper order; that is, 259 becomes 1, etc. I only had to make a minor change for it to work properly after their suggestions: local lSortOrder -- this is the only local you need on updateList put the rawLessonData of fld vocablist into tRawData put 259,26,110,111,272,314,149,250,54 into lSortOrder sort lines of tRawData by termOrderSort(word 1 of each) -- do stuff with the sorted list end updateList function termOrderSort tNum set the wholeMatches to true ## otherwise '7' matches, '267', etc. return itemoffset(tNum, lSortOrder) -- this returns 1,2,3,4,5,etc end termOrderSort Thanks for the help! Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: IF you use e.g. free mySQL (which is not free btw!) then make YOUR software free also. May be this will be a fair step? If my understanding of their dual-license scheme is correct, it's more than fair, it's actually required: http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/ The usage terms are admittedly still somewhat vague to me, but in my limited understanding it follows the trend of other dual-use licensing to ask for in-kind usage: usage in free things is free, usage in non-free things is non-free. So while the single-user SQLite is public domain (on which altSQLite is based), MySQL has a dual license which needs to be read carefully to make sure a project is compliant with its terms. I have some libraries I'll probably release under a dual license, but I'll try to make the license terms clearer than MySQL's. :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: On 4/20/06 9:42 PM, Russ McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, it seems crazy these days to actually have to *pay* for a database. Wow. What an interesting point of view !!! :-) Hmm, why not say: it seems crazy to pay for Revolution or other RAD tools it seems crazy to pay for compilers it seems crazy to pay for MS Office it seems crazy to pay for Adobe products. The difference is that there exist a number of (more or less) adequate DBs which are free (in one sense or another). You, or I, may or may not like that fact - but it is a fact nevertheless. Therefore it can be viewed as crazyto choose to pay for one - UNLESS the one you pay for provides significant benefits (as we already heard, Frontbase does for some people, we know Valentina does for some people, etc.) There is nothing resembling Rev which is free, nor some of the Adobe products. Personally, I do thinks it's crazy to pay for Office products :-) compilers are perhaps more varied and specialized - but I ran a 2000+ developer organization on free compilers, producing very large software products. (though we paid a lot of money for a support contract for those free compilers :-) People. You ARE developers. Please stop this evil and crazy ideas of free software! It will throw programming industry into death. Believe you into this or no. I am related to universities, and I know that last 5 years many smart guys which COULD be good and cool programmers (by their school activity) have choose other specialty. Reasons? Simple: A) They listen SUCH danger discussions about free software... And they make conclusions...They do not want work in future for free. So - NOT PROFITABLE. B) today all major software exists. No chances invent and implement something really new and cool. So - NOT INTERESTING. I think a major, additional reason is C. They read in the press about software jobs being off-shored, and think there will be no jobs. They didn't read the small print that said that the number of software jobs in the US is still growing even during the off-shoring fad. IMO off-shoring is a fad - it will settle down into a successful long term strategy, but at a much lower impact than the last few years of gold rush activity. rest of my reply snipped - too contentious, too OT -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 18/04/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Choosing a printer form a script
I second this. Not only would it be nice to choose which printer it would
also be nice to say print 6 copies to the printer without the user having to
go through the dialogue box. I was told that this was only possible with an
Applescript call.
On 4/20/06 10:48 AM, Liam Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to have two printers one is a label printer and the other is
a ticket printer
is there any way I can select which printer is used in a script
Thanks
Liam
Ireland
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Re: Right-Align Cell Values in Tables
Bill Marriott wrote: Am I correct that there is no way to right-justify individual values in cells (i.e., numbers)? When I apply the right-align formatting to a table, it actually seems to work on a *line* basis, causing the values to jump the boundaries of their cells. Same thing with centering. If you use a fixed-width font, you can pad each entry with spaces to force it to appear right-aligned. Leave the field alignment set to left and pass each tabbed item through this: function rightAlign theText,theWidth put char 1 to theWidth of theText into theText -- trucate long strings put char 1 to (theWidth-length of theText) of \ before theText return theText end rightAlign Use enough spaces between the quotes to cover the column width, for worst cases. This does assume you already know the maximum character width of a column. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: IF you use e.g. free mySQL (which is not free btw!) then make YOUR software free also. May be this will be a fair step? If my understanding of their dual-license scheme is correct, it's more than fair, it's actually required: http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/ The usage terms are admittedly still somewhat vague to me, but in my limited understanding it follows the trend of other dual-use licensing to ask for in-kind usage: usage in free things is free, usage in non-free things is non-free. Wearing my Paradigma hat here - that pretty much sums it up, but the key is actually knowing for certain if what you have in mind qualifies for free - they revised their license after SQL 4.x which eliminated a lot of what was considered free before. mySQL AB has done a thorough job of stating that any potentially commercial use, you are going to have to pay their commercial fee. This was considered very carefully in pricing Valentina. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Lynn- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 2:08:58 PM, you wrote: mySQL AB has done a thorough job of stating that any potentially commercial use, you are going to have to pay their commercial fee. This was considered very carefully in pricing Valentina. In my case, I have a for-profit client whose product goes out to non-profit clients of theirs. The MySQL licensing gets pretty dicey there. I don't pretend to understand whether anyone needs to buy a commercial license, what kind, and who's responsible for taking care of it. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Checking if the network has changed
On 20 Apr 2006, at 21:11, Alex Tweedly wrote: detailed reply snipped Alex, a quick thank you. You gave me a lot to think about. It's not a campus setup but a large corporate (spread widely). But I suppose the same issues apply. The VPN danger is probably very real. In this instance, it's for a specific company, so I may be able to provide a tailored solution. However, it would be nice to have something generic. The same app runs in some other companies, but with the server in the company. So this issue hasn't arisen before. Initially I was looking for a way to automatically discover the proxy, but I gave up on this, and thought of seeing if the network had changed instead. Perhaps I should go back and explore the discover proxy route a bit further. Thanks again. Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML
William- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 12:22:27 PM, you wrote: There already is a stack doing this: HTML exporter Check http://revolution.widged.com/stacks/index.php (somewhere at the bottom of the page) Yes, I probably should have been a bit more specific. I'd really like to be able to export stacks as HTML pages where the buttons actually do something, and where there are fields that can be used, instead of just pictures of what a card looks like. That said, the exporter that Marielle and Richmond put together does a bang-up job on simple stacks if you can keep it from crashing. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML
Hi Mikey, Try out HTML2CSS and HTMLexporter in the stacks gallery http://revolution.widged.com/stacks/?category=utilities or direct from your message box: go url http://revolution.widged.com/stacks/open/utilities/html2css.rev; go url http://revolution.widged.com/stacks/open/utilities/ HTMLexporter.rev Best, Marielle From: Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20 April 2006 14:56:00 BDT To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com use- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HTML Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Has anybody built a stack to take cards and convert them into HTML? -- Marielle Lange (PhD), Freelance Academic Widged http:// widged.com/ Easy access to lexical databaseshttp://lexicall.widged.com/ Supporting Education Technologists http://revolution.widged.com/wiki/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML
Mark Wieder wrote: I'd really like to be able to export stacks as HTML pages where the buttons actually do something, and where there are fields that can be used, instead of just pictures of what a card looks like. That said, the exporter that Marielle and Richmond put together does a bang-up job on simple stacks if you can keep it from crashing. This is exactly what Eric Osterle's LiveCard did for HyperCard stacks, and it was really amazing to see your stack appear in a browser exactly as it was on your hard drive. And the online version was completely live and interactive, though it required using HC as a CGI. It also probably would be quite possible to convert to Revolution, or at least the relevant parts of it (LiveCard contained a storefront and shopping cart we probably wouldn't need.) The reason we can't do that though is because LiveCard is copyrighted, and it is also under contract to a now-defunct company. Too bad. Wish we could find Eric and ask him. I spent a couple of long evenings reading through all the LiveCard scripts and they were some of the most comprehensive and intelligent scripts I'd seen up to then. He influenced my style from that day forward. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Director / Folder Browser in Rev
In the last couple of days I came across something about a directory/ Folder Browser in Rev. It could have been on a web site or in the list. I just can't remember where I saw it and now I would like to look at it. Can anybody help? Thanks Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML
Jacque- This is exactly what Eric Osterle's LiveCard did for HyperCard stacks, Wasn't Ro Nagey with Royal Software when they released LiveCard? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML
Mark- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 2:53:50 PM, I wrote: Wasn't Ro Nagey with Royal Software when they released LiveCard? (answering my own question) yes, he was. I just found the reference. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Right-Align Cell Values in Tables
If you go to Marielle's site, you will be able to find a pseudo-table that I created, that he was kind enough to post. It is a group, containing cells that act as fields in a table. Actually, it works like a table should. One thing you could do is set the justification of the field that is the top cell in a column. From that point, for each row you add, that cell will be right justified. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Take care, Jonathan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Director / Folder Browser in Rev
Found it on Ken's site http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/code/stsGetFileListing.htm Todd On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Todd Geist wrote: In the last couple of days I came across something about a directory/ Folder Browser in Rev. It could have been on a web site or in the list. I just can't remember where I saw it and now I would like to look at it. Can anybody help? Thanks Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Checking if the network has changed
Dave Cragg wrote: On 20 Apr 2006, at 21:11, Alex Tweedly wrote: detailed reply snipped Alex, a quick thank you. You gave me a lot to think about. It's not a campus setup but a large corporate (spread widely). But I suppose the same issues apply. The VPN danger is probably very real. In this instance, it's for a specific company, so I may be able to provide a tailored solution. However, it would be nice to have something generic. The same app runs in some other companies, but with the server in the company. So this issue hasn't arisen before. Initially I was looking for a way to automatically discover the proxy, but I gave up on this, and thought of seeing if the network had changed instead. Perhaps I should go back and explore the discover proxy route a bit further. Let me give you some more to think about then, in the context of large corporate nets :-) One possible approach : provide a service on the proxy which can be firewalled such that it is not reachable from the Internet (this is very likely very easy - most corporations firewall as much as they can, so simply an echo server on a suitable (perhaps UDP) port would do). The client starts by trying to reach that service - and if it gets a response, then it must be on the corporate net; if not, it is elsewhere and shouldn't try to use the proxy. That approach breaks down (in a benevolent way) in the presence of a VPN connection - packets destined to the corporate net will reach the proxy, so the echo service (or similar) can be reached, so clients use the proxy. Since it will generally all still work, that's a benevolent failure - just means packets are taking the scenic route :-) Alternate discovery mechanism - provide a service on the proxy server that responds with the IP address to use for proxy, by comparing the client's IP address against the range of IP addresses that are on the corporate net. If it's not on the corporate net, you give back a response like 0.0.0.0, otherwise you give the proxy's IP address (and of course this extends seamlessly to having multiple proxies each handling parts of the whole network). It's ugly in the sense that you maintain a list of corporate network numbers - but for medium sized corporations that list probably changes infrequently (and for large corporations, there is probably already such a service somewhere, you just need to find the right IT guy). P.S. I don't think there is ageneric solution to this problem - it depends on dividing the network into two or more categories based on criteria that are essentially political (dept vs campus vs region vs corporate), so truly generic isn't possible. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 18/04/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PIM
Mikey I have one in HyperCard and need to convert it to Rev before I can buy an Intel Mac. I have the core design for the Rev version but not a line of code. The old one was first developed in 1989 and successively refined over the years, now being in V8.30 of 2003. It is one of three files I _must_ back up to survive fire or theft, because its journalling functions mean that much of my private and business life is retained there. So, I do not have what you want but if you are thinking of building one then I am happy to discuss needs and implementations off list. regards David On 20/04/2006, at 23:57, Mikey wrote: WAAAY back in the day I used to use Connections, which was a PIM product that ran in HC. I'm incredibly unhappy with all the PIM's I've used since, so I'm thinking of killing myself cranking one out. Do we have an RR based PIM somewhere? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
mySQL AB has done a thorough job of stating that any potentially commercial use, you are going to have to pay their commercial fee. This was considered very carefully in pricing Valentina. In my case, I have a for-profit client whose product goes out to non-profit clients of theirs. The MySQL licensing gets pretty dicey there. I don't pretend to understand whether anyone needs to buy a commercial license, what kind, and who's responsible for taking care of it. Id pass the buck to whomever writes the checks ;-) There are a couple of places I recall where it says something like when in doubt, send us money. There are a lot of cool open source projects out there - one of my favorites is Joomla. mySQL found a profitablity formula that works for them, and they managed to ride the popularity of open source - I cant argue with their success. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Checking if the network has changed
On 20 Apr 2006, at 23:10, Alex Tweedly wrote: Let me give you some more to think about then, in the context of large corporate nets :-) Again thanks, Alex. you just need to find the right IT guy But just when you find him, and he's halfway through setting everything up for you, he gets transferred or outsourced. :-) One possible approach : provide a service on the proxy which can be firewalled such that it is not reachable from the Internet (this is very likely very easy - most corporations firewall as much as they can, so simply an echo server on a suitable (perhaps UDP) port would do). The client starts by trying to reach that service - and if it gets a response, then it must be on the corporate net; if not, it is elsewhere and shouldn't try to use the proxy. Would a dns lookup on the proxy server (assuming it uses a name and not a number) achieve the same? The main reason for hosting this externally was to avoid reliance on internal IT as much as possible. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Checking if the network has changed
Dave Cragg wrote: One possible approach : provide a service on the proxy which can be firewalled such that it is not reachable from the Internet (this is very likely very easy - most corporations firewall as much as they can, so simply an echo server on a suitable (perhaps UDP) port would do). The client starts by trying to reach that service - and if it gets a response, then it must be on the corporate net; if not, it is elsewhere and shouldn't try to use the proxy. Would a dns lookup on the proxy server (assuming it uses a name and not a number) achieve the same? The main reason for hosting this externally was to avoid reliance on internal IT as much as possible. Hard to say depends on whether they run different DNS servers for internal vs external use. Most larger corporations will - just to keep the externally visible namespace smaller and to gain a little bit of security by obscurity, and is trivial to check *currently*. (just find some internal-only machine, let's say it is named somename and then do a ping somename.company.com once from home and once from on-net and see what you get). But that tells you what happens right now - doesn't reassure you that this is an IT policy that you can depend on, which is what you really want to know. (OTOH, no IT department in history *ever* changes their policies in the direction of a more liberal one, so if they don't advertise all host names today, it's a reasonable bet they won't in future :-) -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 18/04/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Lynn- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 3:52:58 PM, you wrote: In my case, I have a for-profit client whose product goes out to non-profit clients of theirs. The MySQL licensing gets pretty dicey there. I don't pretend to understand whether anyone needs to buy a commercial license, what kind, and who's responsible for taking care of it. Id pass the buck to whomever writes the checks ;-) In that case, you'd be misunderstanding the situation. Scenario: you write a spiffy app that goes out to hundreds of non-profit clients, and you charge them a nominal fee for it and for support. If it relies on MySQL for a backend server, are you responsible for getting a commercial license or are the clients who run and maintain it? And given that the clients are non-profits who may be entitled to a free commercial license, would it not be counterintuitive for the developer to pay for a commercial license rather than telling the clients to get their own? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
I had a big project two years ago that was going to rely on MySQL. I had our attorneys review their licensing agreements and then talk to MySQL AB's legal eagles. $5,000 in lawyer fees later, nobody could answer my question about licensing. The application is now happily running on PostgreSQL. I use MySQL for my own apps on my Dreamhost-hosted sites because Dreamhost has dealt with the licensing issue and they're all personal use anyway. For everything else, I'm more comfortable with PostgreSQL. Yes, I know all the arguments about why MySQL is better. I don't care. I choose not to use software from a company that can't write a clear license and can't answer what I think are clear questions about their restrictions. On 4/20/06, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lynn- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 3:52:58 PM, you wrote: In my case, I have a for-profit client whose product goes out to non-profit clients of theirs. The MySQL licensing gets pretty dicey there. I don't pretend to understand whether anyone needs to buy a commercial license, what kind, and who's responsible for taking care of it. Id pass the buck to whomever writes the checks ;-) In that case, you'd be misunderstanding the situation. Scenario: you write a spiffy app that goes out to hundreds of non-profit clients, and you charge them a nominal fee for it and for support. If it relies on MySQL for a backend server, are you responsible for getting a commercial license or are the clients who run and maintain it? And given that the clients are non-profits who may be entitled to a free commercial license, would it not be counterintuitive for the developer to pay for a commercial license rather than telling the clients to get their own? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
These non-profits could still be customers of an ISP that includes unlimited MySQL databases, as most good ones (like Dreamhost) do these days. Obviously the ISPs have worked out the licensing with MySQL.org. Dreamhost is offering MySQL 5 these days. $20/month isn't much to ask, even for a nonprofit. A dedicated MYSQL server is way overkill when you only need a few databases. As the developer, you could even sub-let space. Lynn- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 3:52:58 PM, you wrote: In my case, I have a for-profit client whose product goes out to non-profit clients of theirs. The MySQL licensing gets pretty dicey there. I don't pretend to understand whether anyone needs to buy a commercial license, what kind, and who's responsible for taking care of it. Id pass the buck to whomever writes the checks ;-) In that case, you'd be misunderstanding the situation. Scenario: you write a spiffy app that goes out to hundreds of non-profit clients, and you charge them a nominal fee for it and for support. If it relies on MySQL for a backend server, are you responsible for getting a commercial license or are the clients who run and maintain it? And given that the clients are non-profits who may be entitled to a free commercial license, would it not be counterintuitive for the developer to pay for a commercial license rather than telling the clients to get their own? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Mysterious Processor Use?
I'm pretty sure I've seen references to this before but I'll ask anyway... I'm looking at the activity monitor on my system and it says Revolution is using about 30% of the processor, yet there is no apparent activity taking place (pendingmessages is empty). Even after suspending the development environment, the activity is present (5 threads). What is Rev doing here? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Id pass the buck to whomever writes the checks ;-) In that case, you'd be misunderstanding the situation. Scenario: you write a spiffy app that goes out to hundreds of non-profit clients, and you charge them a nominal fee for it and for support. If it relies on MySQL for a backend server, are you responsible for getting a commercial license or are the clients who run and maintain it? And given that the clients are non-profits who may be entitled to a free commercial license, would it not be counterintuitive for the developer to pay for a commercial license rather than telling the clients to get their own? IANAL (I am not a lawyer warning) - its been a few weeks (I wrote something about their licensing in my blog a few weeks ago) but I suspect that unless you are really giving it away for free, its on you, because you are collecting a nominal fee for it and for support. I don't think it matters how much that wee fee is. Don't take my word on it though. I wouldn't ship anything like that without having an informed opinion. mySQL AB used to be pretty rabid about enforcement. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mysterious Processor Use?
Throbbing default button? I'm pretty sure I've seen references to this before but I'll ask anyway... I'm looking at the activity monitor on my system and it says Revolution is using about 30% of the processor, yet there is no apparent activity taking place (pendingmessages is empty). Even after suspending the development environment, the activity is present (5 threads). What is Rev doing here? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Stephen Barncard wrote: These non-profits could still be customers of an ISP that includes unlimited MySQL databases, as most good ones (like Dreamhost) do these days. Obviously the ISPs have worked out the licensing with MySQL.org. Dreamhost is offering MySQL 5 these days. $20/month isn't much to ask, even for a nonprofit. Good point. JaguarPC also offers up to 10 free mySQL databases per account, runs Rev CGIs without any problem with their default setup, and costs $10/month if you pay by the month, $8/month if you pay by the year. That seems quite affordable for anyone. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mysterious Processor Use?
Recently, Stephen Barncard wrote: I'm looking at the activity monitor on my system and it says Revolution is using about 30% of the processor, yet there is no apparent activity taking place (pendingmessages is empty). Throbbing default button? None that I've placed. It's Rev 2.7 if that matters. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Dan- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 6:25:08 PM, you wrote: arguments about why MySQL is better. I don't care. I choose not to use software from a company that can't write a clear license and can't answer what I think are clear questions about their restrictions. Yes. I'm tending toward Firebird myself. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PIM
I've been working on a program for awhile that has PIM functionality even though that isn't its prime function. This will be an inexpensive consumer oriented product and there isn't much like it out now. I hope to be ready for beta testers in about a month and will solicit this list when I am ready. Bill Vlahos On Apr 20, 2006, at 6:57 AM, Mikey wrote: WAAAY back in the day I used to use Connections, which was a PIM product that ran in HC. I'm incredibly unhappy with all the PIM's I've used since, so I'm thinking of killing myself cranking one out. Do we have an RR based PIM somewhere? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: databases [was: Re: Ruby Active Record]
Mark. I never looked closely at Firebird but I knew quite a few developers who loved its commercial predecssor, Borland's Interbase. On 4/20/06, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan- Thursday, April 20, 2006, 6:25:08 PM, you wrote: arguments about why MySQL is better. I don't care. I choose not to use software from a company that can't write a clear license and can't answer what I think are clear questions about their restrictions. Yes. I'm tending toward Firebird myself. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mysterious Processor Use?
On Apr 20, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I'm pretty sure I've seen references to this before but I'll ask anyway... I'm looking at the activity monitor on my system and it says Revolution is using about 30% of the processor, yet there is no apparent activity taking place (pendingmessages is empty). Even after suspending the development environment, the activity is present (5 threads). I just saw that right now and restarted Rev to calm my fans down. I was getting around 50% on an app that is doing nothing at all. Restarting brought it all back to normal. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mysterious Processor Use?
Re-launching Rev or restarting your computer? Jim Ault Las Vegas On 4/20/06 9:21 PM, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 20, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I'm pretty sure I've seen references to this before but I'll ask anyway... I'm looking at the activity monitor on my system and it says Revolution is using about 30% of the processor, yet there is no apparent activity taking place (pendingmessages is empty). Even after suspending the development environment, the activity is present (5 threads). I just saw that right now and restarted Rev to calm my fans down. I was getting around 50% on an app that is doing nothing at all. Restarting brought it all back to normal. Mark Talluto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mysterious Processor Use?
On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Re-launching Rev or restarting your computer? I just relaunched Rev to clear up the issue. I am using 2.7. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mysterious Processor Use?
FWIW, I've also noticed this, and pre 2.7 FWIW. Sorry; not much help, I know. But at least if I'm losing my marbles, THIS isn't the cause of it. Judy On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, J. Landman Gay wrote: Hm. I've got two different versions of Rev running right now, along with a third copy of MetaCard. Each app has at least one stack open (though none send any messages.) Activity monitor shows them all at 0% CPU usage. When you look at the pending messages in the message box, did you tick the checkbox that says to show Revolution messages? And the one that auto-updates? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mysterious Processor Use?
This is what I had to do as well. Sometimes I'd have to force-kill it from the terminal or activity monitor, as Rev would hang with 85% + processor use. Judy On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Re-launching Rev or restarting your computer? I just relaunched Rev to clear up the issue. I am using 2.7. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mysterious Processor Use?
On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Judy Perry wrote: This is what I had to do as well. Sometimes I'd have to force-kill it from the terminal or activity monitor, as Rev would hang with 85% + processor use. I have seen that as well Judy. So far, my programming mistakes have caused that particular problem. Luckily I save often. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
My Student's Problem
Hi all, I mistakenly posted this originally to the improv-list (what I get for not looking before pressing the reply key) :-( Anyway, I have a student who has a simple stack that has an openStack handler that plays an imbedded iMovie file and then mosies along to card 2, which has an animation script at the card level which then mosies along to card 3, which is blank. The problem, at least as I suspect it, is that the script(s) is/are executing so quickly that we don't ultimately see the animation on cd 2. If you go to that card and issue a send openCard to this card command from the message box, you can see the student's scripted animation. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? You can find the stack in my userspace = Buttercup. Kindest thanks for any suggestions! Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
CS FTP has been updated
Hello everyone, I have updated my free lil' ftp program. What is new: It now supports dragging any combination of nested folders and files as deep as you can throw at it with ease (uploading only). It also can save multiple ftp configurations for quickly changing your focus from one server to another. To do list includes: I broke the status bar in this update, but will fix it in the next few days. I also will be make download dragging possible with nested folders and such possible in a future release soon. Delete also will be updated to supported nested folders and files. You can get it from RevNet under CS FTP. You can also download it from the following link: www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/FTP.rev.gz Have at it! Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FTP Attempts
On Apr 19, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Todd Geist wrote: Hello, I am trying the following script and I am getting an error. ON mouseUp pMouseBtnNum libURLSetFTPMode passive get libURLftpCommand(NLST,ftp4.mysite.com: 21,user,pasword) put it into field 1 pass MouseUp END MouseUp -- 226 Transfer Failed! Any clues for me? Also if anybody knows where I can get some in depthe FTP examples or libraries that would very helpful Hi Todd, You might have a gander at my free ftp program. www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/FTP.rev.gz The main guts of it is stored at the mainstack level. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: My Student's Problem
Well, here's what my student has to say about it, fixing it, with my comments below: == Today I found a problem with my lab 2 where the second card with animation would not show up after getting called from card 1. You said that you would post it to your forums or whatever to get help. I was able to debug the problem myself and here is the solution in case someone else runs into the same problem. The problem is with the play movie command. Once the move you are playing ends, the play command does not terminate correctly. To fix this you need to tell it to stop playing. play moviefile amovie pause length of movie play stop moviefile amovie Hope this helps. Okay, so he gets an A+++ for solving it, but I do not see this solution in the docs for the play entry. WHAT??? Any ideas? Retreating with egg on face... Judy On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Judy Perry wrote: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
