Message stack no longer exists in this location

2006-05-04 Thread Ivan
Hello,

I have been getting a message stack no longer exists in this location when
accessing a stack from the Open Recent File menu.  This was after I had just
closed the stack.

I can open the stack manually, but would anyone have an idea why this message
pops up? I am on Rev 2.7.1


thanks,
Ivan Wong

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Transparent Blending -- Mac vs Windows

2006-05-04 Thread kevin

Hi All,

In regards to the blending property of images, I am used to working 
with Revolution on the Mac but when I open the same stack in Revolution 
on Windows, my graphics do not transfer over properly. I was 
predominantly using the transparent ink with a blend level of 0 for 
my images. On the Mac, this makes all white pixels on an image actually 
transparent. But on Windows, the white pixels remain white! The most 
common scenario would be that you have a graphic of something and you 
want it to sit on top of other images in the background. This must 
surely be the most popular blending required and I must be overlooking 
something simple. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!


Thanks,

Kevin

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Transparent Blending - Mac vs Windows (vs Linux vs Unix)

2006-05-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
It all seems a but complicated when all you really need to do is author 
transparent GIFs in an external image editor!

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Re: Transparent Blending - Mac vs Windows (vs Linux vs Unix)

2006-05-04 Thread Brian Yennie

Or PNGs, which look much better =).

It all seems a but complicated when all you really need to do is 
author transparent GIFs in an external image editor!


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Re: Revolution Syntax Quick Reference

2006-05-04 Thread Paul Claude
If this handbook should be useful for many people, I could try to update it
to Rev 2.7.x documentation; I will see in future.

Greetings

Paul Claude


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Palette for those who don't want to get RSI

2006-05-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
just uploaded a Colour Reference Palette that employs mouseEnter rather than 
mouseUp for those who prefer it.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RRgraphix/

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Looking for certain types of buttons

2006-05-04 Thread Kaveh Bazargan
I have the following code:

   repeat with i = 1 to the number of btns
  if the my_property of btn i is not property_one then next repeat
...
  end if
end repeat

Question is, is there a better way of writing this so that the handler only
looks at buttons whose my_property is property_one?

The main reason I want this is to reduce the time taken when stepping
through the script for debugging. At the moment it goes through the loop
once for every button.
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Re: Looking for certain types of buttons

2006-05-04 Thread Thomas McGrath III

Kaveh,

That seems very efficient but if you are trying to make debugging  
quicker than put that code is a separate handler:


on mouseUp
...
cCheckBtn
...
end mouseUp

on cCheckBtn
   repeat with i = 1 to the number of btns
  if the my_property of btn i is not property_one then next repeat
...
  end if
end repeat
end cCheckBtn

That way you can use the 'Over' step in the debugging process and  
skip that code.


HTH

Tom

On May 4, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Kaveh Bazargan wrote:


I have the following code:

   repeat with i = 1 to the number of btns
  if the my_property of btn i is not property_one then next repeat
...
  end if
end repeat

Question is, is there a better way of writing this so that the  
handler only

looks at buttons whose my_property is property_one?

The main reason I want this is to reduce the time taken when stepping
through the script for debugging. At the moment it goes through the  
loop

once for every button.
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Re: Looking for certain types of buttons

2006-05-04 Thread Kaveh Bazargan
At 07:57 -0400 4/5/06, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Kaveh,

That seems very efficient but if you are trying to make debugging
quicker than put that code is a separate handler:

[...]

Just what I needed. Thanks!

I just seem to remember something like:

repeat with i = 1 to the number of buttons whose style is ...

But maybe I was just dreaming!!
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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-05-04 Thread David Burgun


On 8 Mar 2006, at 14:45, Mark Smith wrote:


A little out of my depth in saying this, but I don't think  
Revolution would be optimal for writing large and complex image  
manipulation routines, for example.


I'll leave it there, as I have no experience of VB, so perhaps  
others can offer useful comparisons.


I've used a combination of RunRev to run the GUI and a C/C++ External  
to do the image processing. This combination works really well giving  
you the ease and speed of implementation in RunRev and the speed of C/ 
C++ where it counts.


All the Best
Dave


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Re: Looking for certain types of buttons

2006-05-04 Thread David Burgun


On 4 May 2006, at 13:01, Kaveh Bazargan wrote:


At 07:57 -0400 4/5/06, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

Kaveh,

That seems very efficient but if you are trying to make debugging
quicker than put that code is a separate handler:


[...]

Just what I needed. Thanks!

I just seem to remember something like:

repeat with i = 1 to the number of buttons whose style is ...


I think that's AppleScript! I get confused like that too, especially  
when switching back and forth between languages!


All the Best
Dave


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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-05-04 Thread Mark Schonewille

Can you tell us more about that external?

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Op 4-mei-2006, om 14:07 heeft David Burgun het volgende geschreven:

I've used a combination of RunRev to run the GUI and a C/C++  
External to do the image processing. This combination works really  
well giving you the ease and speed of implementation in RunRev and  
the speed of C/C++ where it counts.


All the Best
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dsn-less connections

2006-05-04 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
Hi,
 
can anyone give any hint on how (and if) is it possible to arrange a
dsn-less connection from transcript. I have a bunch of text files that
represent a simple relational database. Does Revolution have any internal
SQL module (like Perl's dbi), so I could sql-query text tables directly
without any connection to external drivers? Or via external
ODBC/MDAC/ADODB/whatever driver (like Microsoft Text Driver (*.txt; *.csv)),
but without registering the database for the system, so I can distribute it
with the executable and run anywhere without any pre-configuration.
 
As always, thank you all very much for your help!
Best wishes
Viktoras
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server-client apps in transcript

2006-05-04 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
One more question, 
 
Looking for hints on how to implement server - client software using
transcript. I.e. how do we create a server that opens its own port and
communicates through it with the client on other machine worldwide.
Something similar to p2p connections, just to be used for distributed
computing tasks. 
 
You help is always appreciated! :)
Thanks and best regards 
Viktoras
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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-05-04 Thread Mark Smith
Of course, when I wrote 'Revolution', I meant 'Transcript', but now  
Transcript is called Revolution, I can pretend I was right all along!


Best,

Mark

On 4 May 2006, at 13:07, David Burgun wrote:



On 8 Mar 2006, at 14:45, Mark Smith wrote:


A little out of my depth in saying this, but I don't think  
Revolution would be optimal for writing large and complex image  
manipulation routines, for example.


I'll leave it there, as I have no experience of VB, so perhaps  
others can offer useful comparisons.


I've used a combination of RunRev to run the GUI and a C/C++  
External to do the image processing. This combination works really  
well giving you the ease and speed of implementation in RunRev and  
the speed of C/C++ where it counts.


All the Best
Dave


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Re: finding multiple keystrokes

2006-05-04 Thread Stephen Kramer

Thanks Brian!

Works perfectly.

Steve


Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 21:27:34 -0700
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Stephen,

How about something along the lines of:

constant keyThreshold = 500
local findString, lastKeyTime

on keydown key
   if (lastKeyTime is empty) OR (the milliseconds - lastKeyTime 
keyThreshold) then
   put key into findString
   else
  put key after findString
   end if
find  normal findString in  field list
put the milliseconds into lastKeyTime
end keydown

This is top-of-the-head untested, but the idea would be to track the
time at which a key was pressed, and if another key is pressed quickly
enough (with the keyThreshold), append that key to the find string
instead of replacing it.

HTH,
Brian


the following will select, in a list field, only the first item that
starts with the first pressed key:

on keydown key
find  normal key in  field list
end keydown

but if field 'list' contains:

abc
agh
aty

how can I make it so that the third line will be selected if the user
presses at?

Thanks,

Steve




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Re: server-client apps in transcript

2006-05-04 Thread Rob Cozens

Hi Viktoras,


Looking for hints on how to implement server - client software using
transcript.


The rev_ipc list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/revolution_ipc/ 
archives include simple client and server stacks, + ipc libraries, by 
Jan Schenkel.  [You must subscribe to the list to get access.]


Serendipity Library http://wecode.org/serendipity/ includes modified 
versions of same + a working client/server hierarchical, multi-user 
database.


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Saving in Legacy Format: RR Media.

2006-05-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
RR Media 2.7.1 seems unable to save in legacy format - despite the impression 
given on the RR website. I do hope that RR will enable this feature in a 
2.7.2 release shortly.

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Scriptlimit in standalone application.

2006-05-04 Thread Girard Damien

Hi all,

with the runrev 2.7.1 release, I have wanted to try it with my software.
But after converted all stack to runrev 2.7 and the launcher to runrev  
2.7.1,

I launch the software and I have got this error : license limit exceeded

My software work like that, I have got a lot of stack which registers  
their functions in back.

(a lot of library, my project is a bit huge).

With runrev 2.6.1, there is no problem, with runrev 2.7.1, this block.
I have take a look at the Runrev 2.7.1 documentations, and in the  
documentations is it said

normal that standalone application are limited to 10 backscripts.

So, why is the reason of this block ? and does this limit occurs on  
licensed edition of Runrev ?

(I am using evaluation for testing).

Thanks,

Damien
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Re: Saving in Legacy Format: RR Media.

2006-05-04 Thread Devin Asay


On May 4, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

RR Media 2.7.1 seems unable to save in legacy format - despite the  
impression given on the RR website. I do hope that RR will enable  
this feature in a 2.7.2 release shortly.


Confirmed here. But since Rev Media didn't exist before 2.7 would it  
even make sense to have a save in legacy format option? Especially in  
a product that's supposed to be simplified. I looked on the RR  
website, but couldn't find where it talks about saving in legacy  
format from Media.


Regards.

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Saving in Legacy Format: RR Media.

2006-05-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
That depends entirely on whether RR Media is meant to be viewed as a totally 
new product that in some way stands apart from the other current and past 
offerings of Runtime Revolution (the company) or as a program within an 
'evolutionary' family that is both backwards and forwards compatible.

My experience since I recieved my copy of RR Media, sadly, seems to favour the 
first view. Had I known that, prior to ordering it, I would have bought either 
a Dreamcard upgrade or full-blown Runtime Revolution instead.

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Re: Saving in Legacy Format: RR Media.

2006-05-04 Thread Andre Garzia

Richmond,

search the mail list archives for a thread containing, file format  
change on the subject. You'll see that there is a way for Rev Media  
to save using old 2.5 format. This is undocumented and probably  
unsuported meaning it might go away in the future. I don't have Rev  
Media here and I am not using this option. I have Revolution from 2.5  
til 2.7 installed here and when I need to use old format stacks I use  
Rev 2.6.1 and when I am building new stuff that don't need to be  
opened in previous Rev I use 2.7.


There was a thread about that and I think chipp did a little altPlug  
that would backup a stack using old file format. This new stack  
format is not only Rev Media, all Rev versions from 2.7 up save in  
this format. I don't know the internals and what changed so I cannot  
say about what you'd be missing by moving to old file format.


mail list archives are your friend

Cheers
andre


On May 4, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

That depends entirely on whether RR Media is meant to be viewed as  
a totally new product that in some way stands apart from the other  
current and past offerings of Runtime Revolution (the company) or  
as a program within an 'evolutionary' family that is both backwards  
and forwards compatible.


My experience since I recieved my copy of RR Media, sadly, seems to  
favour the first view. Had I known that, prior to ordering it, I  
would have bought either a Dreamcard upgrade or full-blown Runtime  
Revolution instead.


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Re: Saving in Legacy Format: RR Media.

2006-05-04 Thread Alex Tweedly

Richmond Mathewson wrote:


My experience since I recieved my copy of RR Media, sadly, seems to favour the 
first view. Had I known that, prior to ordering it, I would have bought either 
a Dreamcard upgrade or full-blown Runtime Revolution instead.
 

Not a problem then - the cost of Studio is exactly equal to the cost of 
Media + (upgrade Media to Studio), so you can simply upgrade now at no 
difference in total cost.


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Windows mysteries

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Ault
Let me start by saying I am a Mac guy who does not spend much time on my
Windows machine.

Two weeks ago, new install of XP Home+clean hard drive by Computer Builders
Warehouse technician.  No Microsoft office, etc installed...  just IE.

These 2 issues may be realated ::
Issue 1 - Rev 2.5.1 was installed by me and operating 1 week ago.

Later, did the 2.6.1 upgrade.  Did delete 2.5.1 from the control panel, then
installed 2.6.1.  Cannot get the icons to show Rev, even going to
properties.  The icons do show as Rev if I reinstall 2.5.1

Again, unistall, install 2.6.1 will not show the icons (even using open
with..) or allow double click to launch.  Drag over Rev 2.6.1 shortcut will
work.

Issue 2 - working on stack 001.rev saving changes frequently.  Then with the
stack still open, use Inspector to change the stack name to 002, then do
Save As 002.rev

Result 
Card modifications to fields and buttons saved in 002, but not stack script
modifications, HOWEVER, the opposite is true, the stack script saved in 001,
but not card modifications.  In this case, it is easy to copy the stack
script into 002 and go forward... makes no sense to me

ver 001 is 55k | ver 002 is 43k with mod date 3 min later than 001.

These may be related, and both are total, frustrating mysteries to me.  I
would prefer to develop on the Mac, but this is a specific printing app that
needs all the formatting-driver-printer nuances to be precise.

What are the lessons I need to learn and where can I go read about them?

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Shifted Results from External

2006-05-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Dar-

Wednesday, May 3, 2006, 1:36:01 PM, you wrote:

 However, in the customer's environment which includes another
 external of mine that runs a customer supplied ActiveX module  
 something strange happens after a while.  Based on the data from the
 customer, it looks like the results from system calls are shifted off
 by one.  That is, if calls are like this--f1(), g(), g(), f2(), g()--
 at some point the data returned is that that should have been for the
 previous call--empty, f1(), g(), g(), f2().  I have no queues in my
 code, but it looks as if data is queued but an extra value is left in
 or inserted at some point.  (The customer also reported memory usage
 growth.)

That's indeed weird. My only guess at the moment is that one of your
functions may be getting compiled with a different calling protocol
than the others: it's expecting rev to clean up the stack, while rev
looks at the protocol and thinks the function should clean it up. And
that this function only gets called rarely, but enough to leave an
extra value lying about on top of the stack.

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Re: Message stack no longer exists in this location

2006-05-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

Ivan wrote:

Hello,

I have been getting a message stack no longer exists in this location when
accessing a stack from the Open Recent File menu.  This was after I had just
closed the stack.

I can open the stack manually, but would anyone have an idea why this message
pops up? I am on Rev 2.7.1


Did you change the stack name? Rev only remembers the stack if it is 
named exactly as it was when you first opened it. If you change the name 
or move the location, it forgets.


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Re: Saving in Legacy Format: RR Media.

2006-05-04 Thread Peter T. Evensen

At 10:19 AM 5/4/2006, you wrote:
RR Media 2.7.1 seems unable to save in legacy format - despite the 
impression given on the RR website. I do hope that RR will enable this 
feature in a 2.7.2 release shortly.


sincerely, Richmond Mathewson


I don't think Media can save in an older format.  It is my understanding 
that media files are flagged as such, so they can only be run using the 
Media player, and not played using a stack runner built with 
Studio/Enterprise.  I would think being able to save in the legacy format 
would remove this flag.


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Re: Saving in Legacy Format: RR Media.

2006-05-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

Peter T. Evensen wrote:

At 10:19 AM 5/4/2006, you wrote:
RR Media 2.7.1 seems unable to save in legacy format - despite the 
impression given on the RR website. I do hope that RR will enable this 
feature in a 2.7.2 release shortly.


sincerely, Richmond Mathewson


I don't think Media can save in an older format.  It is my understanding 
that media files are flagged as such, so they can only be run using the 
Media player, and not played using a stack runner built with 
Studio/Enterprise.  I would think being able to save in the legacy 
format would remove this flag.


I think you are right.

--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Shifted Results from External

2006-05-04 Thread Dar Scott


On May 4, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:


That is, if calls are like this--f1(), g(), g(), f2(), g()--
at some point the data returned is that that should have been for the
previous call--empty, f1(), g(), g(), f2().  I have no queues in my
code, but it looks as if data is queued but an extra value is left in
or inserted at some point.  (The customer also reported memory usage
growth.)


That's indeed weird. My only guess at the moment is that one of your
functions may be getting compiled with a different calling protocol
than the others: it's expecting rev to clean up the stack, while rev
looks at the protocol and thinks the function should clean it up. And
that this function only gets called rarely, but enough to leave an
extra value lying about on top of the stack.


Good thinking.

Everything that Rev sees is C.  All the C++ is hidden.

Also, everything works fine until after a long stress.

Even then, I have trouble seeing how this might cause the symptoms.

I think this might be part of the answer but is still quite shy.

Dar
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ungrouped group names reassigned to new groups

2006-05-04 Thread Phil Davis

Before entering this 'undocumented feature' into BZ, I wanted to find
out if anyone has already entered it. (I did search BZ but didn't find
any entries that looked similar.)

Comments?

It's funny... in other contexts I've actually benefited from this Rev 
feature. Now in my current context it was a problem (I found a workaround).



Context (Rev 2.6.1, OS 10.4.6 - not tried on others):
I built a process that repurposes a document layout stack into a set of
print-ready rendered document pages. Along the way from layout to
rendered, the stack has some groups that get ungrouped, and their
objects get regrouped into different-than-original sets. As the new
groups are created, the process assigns names to them.

Problem:
Some of the names my process assigned to the new groups were replaced by 
the names of those ungrouped [old] groups. All of the old group names 
were recycled this way. As a result, some new group names were wrong, 
hosing the subsequent document rendering process.


Workaround:
There were two old groups that were ungrouped, so before my new groups 
were created I did this:

   create group
   create image in last group -- maybe unnecessary
   create group
   create image in last group -- maybe unnecessary
   delete last group
   delete last group
This purged Rev's memory of the 2 old groupnames, and my process was 
then able to complete successfully, since the new groupnames were now 
intact.


Thanks -
Phil Davis
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[OT]Picture of the day at e-on software

2006-05-04 Thread Chipp Walters

http://www.e-onsoftware.com/

Vapor drive runs on water. Now that there's a picture of it, I need to 
get Chris to actually make it work. (We'll sell it as a Rev add-on)


--
--
Chipp Walters
www.altuit.com

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altuit references

2006-05-04 Thread Chipp Walters

Mark Alan Effinger
CEO, ExitPath, Inc.
Phone: 949-903-1987
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mark Luetzelschwab
Director of Technology, Best Associates, Inc
Phone: 214-210-7330
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dan Shafer
ShaferMedia, Inc
Author of over 60 Books on Technology
Phone: 831-274-6470
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
--
Chipp Walters
www.altuit.com

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Re: altuit references

2006-05-04 Thread Chipp Walters

Well, it looks like I'm posting all my personal data to the list today.

Sorry...meant for only Chris.


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Re: More OSX Appearance Confusion

2006-05-04 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto

At 3:46 AM -0700 5/1/2006, Jan Schenkel wrote:

--- Arthur Urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All my controls appear correctly under OSX, but the
 window backdrop does
 not have that light horizontal striping that is
 typical of Aqua/Quartz

  application windows. Instead it's just plain white.

- create a new rectangle graphic
- send it to the back
- set its border to 0
- set its rectangle to (0, 0,stack width, stack
height)
- set its backgroundPattern to 210091 (you can find it
in the 'Standard Icons' set in the Image Library)



Far easier, though, to simply set the stack's style to modeless. 
Modeless dialog boxes inherit the striped background, but otherwise 
behave much like ordinary windows.

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http://www.jaedworks.com
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Has anyone been successful in using a QT video player in a 2.7.1 standalone? Any tutorials available?

2006-05-04 Thread Dr. Robert E. Ball
I am unable to successfully develop a standalone (on a Mac with OS 10.4.6
using Rev 2.7.1) from a stack containing a QT player. The stack works fine
in the IDE and properly plays the video. No problems. However, when I try to
build a standalone, no matter where I put the external QT file, with the
appropriate location given in the Copy Files in the Standalone Application
Settings, the standalone builder either does not attach the file as part of
the application package, or even when it occasionally does attach it, the
app doesn't play it. (I couldn't make a standalone that worked correctly in
2.5.1 either.) I can't find any information/tutorial on how to do this
correctly.

I also tried playing the QT file as a videoClip, but the clip was centered
at 0,0, no matter where I tried to locate it, and only showed the lower
right quadrant of the video.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

PS -- the pdf User Guide in the Documentation does not contain any
information on file naming etc in Chapter 9 -- it's missing. That's not
good.


-- 
Robert E. Ball, PhD
Distinguished Professor, Emeritus
Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics
Naval Postgraduate School
Monterey, California

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The QT player in a standalone

2006-05-04 Thread Dr. Robert E. Ball
I am unable to successfully develop a standalone (on a Mac with OS 10.4.6
using Rev 2.7.1) from a stack containing a QT player. The stack works fine
in the IDE and properly plays the video. No problems. However, when I try to
build a standalone, no matter where I put the external QT file, with the
appropriate location given in the Copy Files in the Standalone Application
Settings, the standalone builder either does not attach the file as part of
the application package, or even when it occasionally does attach it, the
app doesn't play it. (I couldn't make a standalone that worked correctly in
2.5.1 either.) I can't find any information/tutorial on how to do this
correctly.

I also tried playing the QT file as a videoClip, but the clip was centered
at 0,0, no matter where I tried to locate it, and only showed the lower
right quadrant of the video.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

PS -- the pdf User Guide in the Documentation does not contain any
information on file naming etc in Chapter 9 -- it's missing. That's not
good.


-- 
Robert E. Ball, PhD
Distinguished Professor, Emeritus
Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics
Naval Postgraduate School
Monterey, California

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Re: server-client apps in transcript

2006-05-04 Thread Björnke von Gierke

On May 04 2006, at 15:20, Viktoras Didziulis wrote:


...
Looking for hints on how to implement server - client software using
transcript.
...


You might want to try chatrev out, it's a chat app made entirely in 
runrev, see signature for links. We are also always eager to help 
people that want to chat with us ;)


greetings
Björnke von Gierke

--

official ChatRev page:
http://chatrev.bjoernke.com

Chat with other RunRev developers:
go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev;


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RE: [OT]Picture of the day at e-on software

2006-05-04 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 http://www.e-onsoftware.com/
 
 Vapor drive runs on water. Now that there's a picture of it, 
 I need to get Chris to actually make it work. (We'll sell it 
 as a Rev add-on)

Pretty cool. Did you make the model in LW?

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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Re: The QT player in a standalone

2006-05-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt

On 5/5/06, Dr. Robert E. Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am unable to successfully develop a standalone (on a Mac with OS 10.4.6
using Rev 2.7.1) from a stack containing a QT player. The stack works fine
in the IDE and properly plays the video. No problems. However, when I try to
build a standalone, no matter where I put the external QT file, with the
appropriate location given in the Copy Files in the Standalone Application
Settings, the standalone builder either does not attach the file as part of
the application package, or even when it occasionally does attach it, the
app doesn't play it. (I couldn't make a standalone that worked correctly in
2.5.1 either.) I can't find any information/tutorial on how to do this
correctly.



I did a test using a button to locate the movie file as follows:
   answer file Select a movie file:
   put it into tFile
   if tFile is not empty then set the filename of player Player to tFile

This worked perfectly in Rev 2.7.1 with Mac OS X 10.4.6, so I suspect
it is a file path problem and your app is not pointing to the correct
movie file.

For testing, I suggest you try two things:
1. add a button that just reports the filename of the player object so
that you can see exactly where it thinks the file should be.
2. add another button that does what my test script does. That way you
will be able to confirm that the player object does what you want.

HTH,
Sarah
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Sort-of OT: Learning Python

2006-05-04 Thread Geoff Canyon
Those of you who know me know that I am always fascinated by  
different programming languages. I've programmed in more than a few,  
but read up on dozens. Lately I've been taking a stab at Python.


I'm keeping track of progress at http://learningpython.wordpress.com/

So far it's mostly gripes and rants ;-)

The reason I say sort-of off topic is that I'm making no secret of  
the fact that I come from a Revolution background. The latest post  
compares the out-of-the-box experience between Rev and a Python IDE.  
In Rev, installation and building a standalone application takes 16  
steps, including retrieving and entering the demo license code. In  
Python, after 10 steps I have downloaded nothing, installed nothing,  
and built nothing, have gone down a blind alley or two, and have more  
questions than I started with.


When I get past the install and start describing actually programming  
in Python, it should be better.


In any case, feel free to have a look and post feedback, even if it's  
just to point out where I went wrong in the Python install process ;-)


regards,

Geoff
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Saving information with a standalone

2006-05-04 Thread Arthur Urban
I guess I misunderstood something about Rev Standalones, so I'll ask 
here to see where I went wrong. I was under the impression that if I 
changed the value of a Custom Property of an object during run-time, the 
new value was saved in the stack when the stack quit. This is most 
certainly not happening for me, even though I issue a 'save' command on 
exit. Did I miss something? Thanx!

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Process, anyone?

2006-05-04 Thread Cal Horner
After days of chasing down and testing every possible idea and suggestion, I
have come to the Oracle. 
 
Can anyone out there tell me what is the best solution for this problem?
 
A stand-alone app doesn't delete itself out of the Windows Task Manager list
when the stand-alone app is closed. The app remains in the processes list
and each time it is used another copy is left.
 
It would seem to be the old problem of bleeding software, but I am sure
there is a Revolution answer to cure it.
 
 
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Re: [OT]Picture of the day at e-on software

2006-05-04 Thread Chipp Walters

Thanks,

The model created entirely within Vue. The goal was to use Vue only. The 
model is fairly well detailed, a larger version is up on Cornucopia.




Lynn Fredricks wrote:


Pretty cool. Did you make the model in LW?


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Re: Process, anyone?

2006-05-04 Thread Phil Davis

Couple of things come to mind:

1) If you're using speech synthesis, do a 'revUnloadSpeech' before 
quitting.


2) Cancel all pending messages before quitting.

HTH -
Phil Davis


Cal Horner wrote:

After days of chasing down and testing every possible idea and suggestion, I
have come to the Oracle. 

 


Can anyone out there tell me what is the best solution for this problem?

 


A stand-alone app doesn't delete itself out of the Windows Task Manager list
when the stand-alone app is closed. The app remains in the processes list
and each time it is used another copy is left.

 


It would seem to be the old problem of bleeding software, but I am sure
there is a Revolution answer to cure it.

 

 
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Fwd: Transparent Blending -- Mac vs Windows

2006-05-04 Thread kevin
Interestingly enough I found that selecting the paint bucket tool and 
right-clicking on the white parts of an image in the Windows version of 
Rev will actually deem those white areas transparent. Rather peculiar 
but then, isn't everything that has to do with Windows?



Begin forwarded message:


From: kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: May 3, 2006 11:52:20 PM PDT
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Transparent Blending -- Mac vs Windows

Hi All,

In regards to the blending property of images, I am used to working 
with Revolution on the Mac but when I open the same stack in 
Revolution on Windows, my graphics do not transfer over properly. I 
was predominantly using the transparent ink with a blend level of 0 
for my images. On the Mac, this makes all white pixels on an image 
actually transparent. But on Windows, the white pixels remain white! 
The most common scenario would be that you have a graphic of something 
and you want it to sit on top of other images in the background. This 
must surely be the most popular blending required and I must be 
overlooking something simple. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!


Thanks,

Kevin


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Re: Saving information with a standalone

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Ault

On 5/4/06 6:20 PM, Arthur Urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess I misunderstood something about Rev Standalones, so I'll ask
 here to see where I went wrong. I was under the impression that if I
 changed the value of a Custom Property of an object during run-time, the
 new value was saved in the stack when the stack quit. This is most
 certainly not happening for me, even though I issue a 'save' command on
 exit. Did I miss something? Thanx!

 The key to a standalone is that it is compiled, and when running in any
operating system, its operating environment can be changed (as all programs
do) but the file on the HDrive cannot be modified.  You need to modify or
create other files (such as text files, images, binaries, stacks) or send
the data to another running program that will save it (such as SQL
databases, spreadsheets, cgi's on servers).

Richard Gaskin has some good info about this on his web site at Fourth
World.

Hope this helps.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: The QT player in a standalone

2006-05-04 Thread Dr. Robert E. Ball
On 5/4/06 5:14 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 5/5/06, Dr. Robert E. Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am unable to successfully develop a standalone (on a Mac with OS 10.4.6
 using Rev 2.7.1) from a stack containing a QT player. The stack works fine
 in the IDE and properly plays the video. No problems. However, when I try to
 build a standalone, no matter where I put the external QT file, with the
 appropriate location given in the Copy Files in the Standalone Application
 Settings, the standalone builder either does not attach the file as part of
 the application package, or even when it occasionally does attach it, the
 app doesn't play it. (I couldn't make a standalone that worked correctly in
 2.5.1 either.) I can't find any information/tutorial on how to do this
 correctly.
 
 
 I did a test using a button to locate the movie file as follows:
   answer file Select a movie file:
   put it into tFile
   if tFile is not empty then set the filename of player Player to tFile
 
 This worked perfectly in Rev 2.7.1 with Mac OS X 10.4.6, so I suspect
 it is a file path problem and your app is not pointing to the correct
 movie file.
 
 For testing, I suggest you try two things:
 1. add a button that just reports the filename of the player object so
 that you can see exactly where it thinks the file should be.
 2. add another button that does what my test script does. That way you
 will be able to confirm that the player object does what you want.
 
 HTH,
 Sarah
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Hello Sarah -- thank you so much for taking the time to help me out. If I
wasn't going to distribute my standalone program to others, your suggestion
would work. But I do intend to distribute it, so the QT files must be an
internal part of the application package.

Thus, my problem was not finding the absolute path to a QT file on my hard
disk from the standalone application. My problem was getting the standalone
builder to include the QT files in the standalone package, and then getting
the standalone application to point to the files in the application package
and play them.

However, thanks to your suggestion, I was able to determine the solution to
my problem. When I put the QT files in the same folder as the stack file and
I added the files in the Copy Files in the Standalone Application Settings
and located the player files in the Inspector, the file path was relative to
the stack file, the QT files were not included in the standalone package,
and (of course) the players in the standalone application didn't play. On
the other hand, when I put the QT files in another folder, the file path in
the Copy Files and the player files in the Inspector were absolute, the
files were included in the standalone package, and it worked like a charm.
Your suggestion to locate the file path using a button (in the standalone
application) resulted in an absolute file path -- which led me to try out
other locations for the QT files that resulted in absolute file paths in the
Copy Files and player Inspector. Thank you.

I sure wish Revolution would prepare a tutorial on the use of external
files.

Bob



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Distinguished Professor, Emeritus
Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics
Naval Postgraduate School
Monterey, California

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