Re: OT: Panorama software

[Kay C Lan]

I've had great results from Hugin but have never attempted to do 360°
overhead.

As with everything, experience makes a difference. Hand held, rough-eyed
overlap sometimes worked with the 'auto' function of Hugin, but most times
had to hand pick the 'control points', and some times would have to start
all over the end product was so unusable. With a tripod and and allowing
generous 1/3 screen overlaps, the auto function invariable worked and the
results were perfect for my non-commercial requirements. YMMV.

For taking single shot 360 panoramas one of these are pretty cool, but
expensive:

http://www.0-360.com/index.asp#Optic

HTH

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Sivakatirswami  wrote:

> I keep dreaming that one day I will get beyond admin and have time to do
> some "creative" well it may be soon.
>
> What are everyone recommendations as of 2010
>
> for best tools for creating panoramas (including 360 degree horizontal over
> head ones) on Mac OSX?
>
> I see a an open source package which runs on Macs:
>
> Hugin -- Free
>
> http://hugin.sourceforge.net/download/
>
> Autopano gets great reviews but $$379.00 seems a bit outrageous?
>
> Panoweaver only outputs Flash...
>
> Lots of windows only options which I can't use.
>
> ??
>
> Sivakatirswami
>
>
>
>
>
>
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revBrowser and windowshape - Windows bug?

[tsj]

Can anyone confirm that revBrowser doesn't work when you have the stack's
windowShape set under Windows (seems to be OK on OSX).

Terry...

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Re: [Mandelbrot] Code Samples/Comparisons

[Phil Davis]

Bill Marriott wrote:
Productivity isn't about processor cycles, and it's not always about 
lines

of code. It's about how much one can accomplish with the knowledge
they have.


I WILL be quoting you, Bill! That's a good one.

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Noise in Windows icon when standalone compiled on Mac

[Bruce Pokras]

Something changed in Rev Enterprise 4.0 from 3.5. When I compile  
standalones, the Mac standalone's icon is fine, but the Windows  
standalone's icon is noisy. When I compile the same stack under Rev  
3.5, the Windows standalone's icon is fine. Anyone else see this? I  
have an Intel iMac running the last Tiger version.


Regards,

Bruce Pokras
Blazing Dawn Software
www.blazingdawn.com
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finding revlet limits in a controlled environment

[Phil Davis]

Hello -

My client wants to sell revlet-based software to his customers in a 
large US govt agency. If they are able to download & install the revweb 
plugin, we don't know what limitations to a revlet's capabilities might 
be enforced by IT in their computing environment. To answer this 
question, we've built a web site his customers can use in their world 
that steps them through a series of revlets that each try different 
kinds of activity. The activities include:


   * load the plugin and do nothing
   * create, read, rename, delete a file on the local HD
   * get a web URL (google.com)
   * run a shell command ("dir" or "ls")
   * create, delete a stack in memory; get a stackfile from a web server
   * print to their printer

Those are all the tests so far. The test web site emails the revlet test 
results back to me.


Now my question:
Are we testing the right things? If not, what else should we test for?

Thanks for any feedback.

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[Mandelbrot] Code Samples/Comparisons

[Bill Marriott]

Hi Mark,


what about using task/code examples from
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/. Revcoders (us, runrev ltd?..)  will

I think that's a great idea.

Sorry, Kevin, I think it's a Very Bad Idea.


Thanks so much for taking the time to do this! But I think it's a *great*
example, and I am going to show you why.

Let's start out with a few observations:

- How "practical" is this? I took a closer look at the site.

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64/benchmark.php?test=mandelbrot&lang=all&box=1

The goal of the routine is to generate a mandelbrot image in the .PBM
format. Now, this has some relevance I suppose in testing CPU performance,
but not exactly in the real world. How many programs read PBM, for one? None
on my Mac, but Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro could read it on my Windows PC.
How fun is it to run this program, then load the result up in a graphics
editor? About as much fun as punch-card, batch programming.

- The original Pascal program (or at least your transliteration of it) *has
a bug!* Give the output file an extension of .pbm and load it into a program
that can read that format. You'll find that the image is skewed more and
more as the dimensions increase.

http://revuser.com/mandel/orig-600.png

In either Pascal or revTalk, as coded, it's going to be a challenge to find
out where that bug lies.

- It doesn't seem like it was that hard to "transliterate" the original
Pascal code. I was impressed by the similarities, actually. Even then, there
are portions of your revTalk version that are a little more readable. Since
the vast majority of this is mathematics, and we're not out to reinvent
algebraic notation, you're right that it's not the best showcase. Math is
going to be math in any programming language. It's certainly not *less*
readable. What makes it hard is the Mandelbrot formulas and especially the
encoding into .pbm format (which is what requires all those bit operations.
(Maybe all of the examples from that site are like this?)

- Pascal is considered a pretty "easy" language. Did you check out what the
"solution" looks like in Java?

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64/benchmark.php?test=mandelbrot&lang=javaxint&id=3

In C++?

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64/benchmark.php?test=mandelbrot&lang=gpp&id=5

Woah! :)

- Well our performance is a is a bit disappointing relative to the "command
line" Pascal version, we *do* beat out variants of PHP, Python, Ruby, and
Perl, depending on what your processor was versus the one used for the
benchmarks.

- You were able to add a nice GUI file selector dialog trivially. Now,
imagine that your goal isn't to produce a .pbm image, but rather to show
something on-0screen the user could interact with in some way. Things
get more interesting. This is where Rev starts to shine. The
further away you get from "pure" math and have to get into user interface,
interaction with local and remote file systems, manipulating data sets, and
business logic issues, the better we look. Our language abstracts the
operating system, so developers don't need to be concerned with the proper
API to call for common tasks.

- Most (but not all) of us are not using Rev to generate Mandelbrot data.
We're creating usable applications for business tasks, entertainment and
educational software, database front-ends, etc. It might well be that this
site/link is all about these kinds of math-intensive routines. I didn't look
too closely at them, admittedly. What I did like about Viktoras' suggestion
was that he found a site with some sample code in a variety of languages. I
think it's healthy for us to look for such examples and discover the
strengths and weaknesses that emerge when we try to express them in revTalk.

My take on the "productivity" equation is that it's not merely the number of
lines of code produced, and it's ultimately not even how fast the code
executes. In most situations, it's how long it takes to express the
algorithm, and debug it later on. To encapsulate algorithms in flexible user
interfaces. To take things to an extreme: a routine
built with machine code or assembly will always execute faster than one
built in a high-level language. But how many of us could sit down and write
a database front-end in assembly? How long would it take? How usable and
adaptable would it be?

Another way to look at things is from the artist's viewpoint. There are
people who will never touch digital photography because they are expert at
the analog process. There are illustrators who will never give up their
charcoals. There are Lego builders who spurn the non-rectangular bricks! And
thank heaven for them, because I respect the desire for control and
attention to nuance. In a similar vein, other languages can indeed reward
sweating details like what kind of number you're trying to store, manually
allocating and releasing memory, etc.

We're not promising to be the tool that lets you rewrite OpenGL or even
build a competitor to Excel. Instead, we're a tool that comp

[ANN] Free tText plugins: Do Shell & Speak2Me

[Jerry Daniels]

Fellow developers,

We have just posted two more new free plugins for tText: Speck2Me,  
which speaks any text in the editor, and Do Shell which executes any  
text in one tab and puts the results into another. These plugins are  
fully editable in Revolution.


http://reveditor.com/free-ttext-plugins-do-shell-and-speak2me

To view all free tText plugins on our site:

http://reveditor.com/tag/ttextpluginfree

Thanks to Obleo Beck who sent these little gems into us. Obleo  
developed these plugins for his own use on his Mac and notes there may  
be some limitations to their use on Windows.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-n-drop-your-handlers





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Re: 2 Datagrid questions

[william humphrey]

Richard

I just used your stack to test putting data into another stack from a
substack and it worked perfectly. So thanks for that. Now I know that there
is something seriously screwy with my stack project.

Oh well.

Bill

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Richmond Mathewson <
richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/6/09 10:53 PM, Éric Miclo wrote:
>
>> Hello Richmond,
>>
>> Well, I was not precise enough.
>> I wanted to know if there is a "direct" function to extract a column's
>> data without having to use a repeat loop.
>> I'm not sure I understand right what's in DataGrid's doc pages 65-66.
>> Thanks for your time and proposition.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I am not sure whether that is possible.
>
> When I popped together the EXTRACTOR stack I expected to have a script of
> this sort:
>
> put column "VEGETABLES" of dataGrid "FOOD" into fld "VEGGIES"
>
> or
>
> put the lines of column "VEGETABLES" of dataGrid "FOOD" into the lines of
> fld "VEGGIES"
>
> but that was because I have paid almost no attention to datagrids (more
> fool me)
> and did not realise that they are not really objects in the sense that
> fields are, but are
> composite creatures, and their components have to be addressed rather than
> the
> dataGrid as a whole.
>
> The thing that shocked me was that on looking at the Preferences palette
> for my
> dataGrid I saw it called a 'group' . . . and things went badly downhill
> from there.
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Re: 2 Datagrid questions

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 12/6/09 10:53 PM, Éric Miclo wrote:

Hello Richmond,

Well, I was not precise enough.
I wanted to know if there is a "direct" function to extract a column's data 
without having to use a repeat loop.
I'm not sure I understand right what's in DataGrid's doc pages 65-66.
Thanks for your time and proposition.

   


I am not sure whether that is possible.

When I popped together the EXTRACTOR stack I expected to have a script 
of this sort:


put column "VEGETABLES" of dataGrid "FOOD" into fld "VEGGIES"

or

put the lines of column "VEGETABLES" of dataGrid "FOOD" into the lines 
of fld "VEGGIES"


but that was because I have paid almost no attention to datagrids (more 
fool me)
and did not realise that they are not really objects in the sense that 
fields are, but are
composite creatures, and their components have to be addressed rather 
than the

dataGrid as a whole.

The thing that shocked me was that on looking at the Preferences palette 
for my
dataGrid I saw it called a 'group' . . . and things went badly downhill 
from there.

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Re: 2 Datagrid questions

[Éric Miclo]

Hello Richmond,

Well, I was not precise enough.
I wanted to know if there is a "direct" function to extract a column's data 
without having to use a repeat loop.
I'm not sure I understand right what's in DataGrid's doc pages 65-66.
Thanks for your time and proposition.

Warmest regards,

ÉrIC

Le 6 déc. 2009 à 21:25, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

> 
> On 12/6/09 9:17 PM, Éric Miclo wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'd have 2 questions about DataGrid:
>> 
>> - is there a way to completely deactivation sorting of a DataGrid. I only 
>> want to display the data in the order it was entered.
>> 
>> - is it possible to get the data from a particular column from a DataGrid, 
>> and if yes how (I've looked at the doc, found something, but for the moment 
>> I'm unable to get it working).
>> 
>> 
> 
> I'm sorry, it took me 30 minutes because I didn't realise that
> a datagrid is really just a group of groups of little fields:
> 
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/EXTRACTOR.rev.zip
> 
> Not rocket science, but it works.
> 
> Love, Richmond.
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Re: 2 Datagrid questions

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 12/6/09 9:17 PM, Éric Miclo wrote:

Hello,

I'd have 2 questions about DataGrid:

- is there a way to completely deactivation sorting of a DataGrid. I only want 
to display the data in the order it was entered.

- is it possible to get the data from a particular column from a DataGrid, and 
if yes how (I've looked at the doc, found something, but for the moment I'm 
unable to get it working).

   


I'm sorry, it took me 30 minutes because I didn't realise that
a datagrid is really just a group of groups of little fields:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/EXTRACTOR.rev.zip

Not rocket science, but it works.

Love, Richmond.
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2 Datagrid questions

[Éric Miclo]

Hello,

I'd have 2 questions about DataGrid:

- is there a way to completely deactivation sorting of a DataGrid. I only want 
to display the data in the order it was entered.

- is it possible to get the data from a particular column from a DataGrid, and 
if yes how (I've looked at the doc, found something, but for the moment I'm 
unable to get it working).

Thanks for any help.

Best regards,

ÉrIC

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Re: Found it!!! (Was: Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?)

[Dom]

Richmond Mathewson  wrote:

> Cross your fingers.

Done :-)


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Re: Found it!!! (Was: Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?)

[Dom]

J. Landman Gay  wrote:

> > * with Studio I can't help Studio creating Mac and Windows standalone,
> > along with the "Web" standalone
> 
> Did you turn off that option in Standalone Settings? There is a main 
> toggle checkbox in each of the OS panes of Standalone Settings. I have
> no trouble creating only web apps when I do that.

OKay, I went through ALL tabs, and deselected those I don't need :-)


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Re: Found it!!! (Was: Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?)

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 12/6/09 7:16 PM, Dom wrote:

Richmond Mathewson  wrote:

   

Sorry to hear * that Dom; what exactly do you mean by:

"with Studio I can't help Studio creating Mac and Windows standalone,
along with the "Web" standalone"

I just created 4 standalones (Mac, Win, Lin and Web) from 1 stack (on
a Mac computer) with Studio.
 

What I need is only a _Web_ app, not the Mac&  Windows ones ;-)
   


OK:  Go to menuFile / Standalone Application Settings...

When the Standalone Window opens you will see icons along the top:

 General StacksCopy FileMac OSOS XWindows
UnixWebBug Reports


Click on the 'OS X' icon and DESELECT the "Build for Mac" Checkbox

Click on the 'Windows' icon and DESELECT the "Build for Windows" Checkbox

Click on the 'Web' icon and SELECT the 'Build for Web' Checkbox

Close the Standalone Window

SAVE your stack!

Go to menuFile / Save As Standalone Application...

Cross your fingers.


Love, Richmond.


With Media*, I get only the wanted *.revlet
With Studio, I get 3 "apps" ;-)

*I Know that Media is unable to create Mac and Windows standalones


   


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Re: Found it!!! (Was: Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?)

[Dom]

Richmond Mathewson  wrote:

> Sorry to hear * that Dom; what exactly do you mean by:
> 
> "with Studio I can't help Studio creating Mac and Windows standalone,
> along with the "Web" standalone"
> 
> I just created 4 standalones (Mac, Win, Lin and Web) from 1 stack (on
> a Mac computer) with Studio.

What I need is only a _Web_ app, not the Mac & Windows ones ;-)
With Media*, I get only the wanted *.revlet
With Studio, I get 3 "apps" ;-)

*I Know that Media is unable to create Mac and Windows standalones


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Re: Found it!!! (Was: Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?)

[J. Landman Gay]

Dom wrote:

J. Landman Gay  wrote:

Did you change the javascript in the html file? That's all it needs. 
Also make sure the source parameter is the name of your mainstack in 
both cases.


I tried hard ;-)

Again and again... with no luck
-- until I noticed the"" style parameters!!!

the first DIV in given this parameter: "display: block" instead of
"display: none" as created by Media (or Studio*)

the second DIV, which host the substack, is given NO display parameter

and... that works!!!


Good. :) The "DIV" is required. In the test pages I have, the "style" is 
the height and width of the stack, but I guess you could put any defined 
style in there. The second "div" is important, it should be "none" so 
that the browser will know where the user should download the plugin if 
they don't already have it.




so, it was more of a page problem, than a stack problem ;-)


That's been my problem too. I suddenly have to learn a lot more about 
HTML than I did before.




* with Studio I can't help Studio creating Mac and Windows standalone,
along with the "Web" standalone


Did you turn off that option in Standalone Settings? There is a main 
toggle checkbox in each of the OS panes of Standalone Settings. I have 
no trouble creating only web apps when I do that.


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Re: Text encoding problem

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 12/6/09 6:38 PM, David Bovill wrote:

< snip >

This whole more becomes more urgent when
we realise that very shortly the WWW consortium
is opening up web-address to non-Latin encoded
addresses.

Mind, you, I suspect that, at the beginning at least,
the whole thing will be a "pig's breakfast."
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Re: Text encoding problem

[David Bovill]

Trying to figure out what this means logically (please correct me if I am
wrong). The url as appears in a web browser as:

http://wiki.architex.tv/Güstrow 
>

However using the above ascii text to fetch a url, or with revBrowserSet as
follows:

put url "http://wiki.architex.tv/Güstrow
"
revBrowserSet browserID, "url",
"http://wiki.architex.tv/Güstrow
"

does not work (it fetches the wrong url). Instead you need to use:

put url "http://wiki.architex.tv/G%C3%BCstrow";
> revBrowserSet browserID, "url", "http://wiki.architex.tv/G%C3%BCstrow";
>

So it seems that the way browser urls work, is that behind the scenes it
translates the displayed url into utf8 and then urlencodes it. You can
replicate this behavior using a function like the one below:

function text_ToBrowserUrl someText
  -- if the platform is not "MacOS" then put isotomac (someText) into
someText
   put uniencode (someText) into uText
   put unidecode (uText,"utf8") into utf8Text
   put urlencode(utf8Text) into urlText
   return urlText
end text_ToBrowserUrl

NB - you don't need to use the isotomac part - that's only there as I'm
working on the Mac and Björnke I guess is on the PC
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Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

[Richmond Mathewson]

Here's a thought:

http://www.tigabyte.com/hnfiles/rescreator.html

I wonder how many of these can be duplicated using
RunRev?  And, before you ask, I am sorry, but I just
don't have the time (or, frankly, the computer know-how
about Blowfish encryption/decryption or GPS).

I have mucked about with HyperNext and got fairly
cheesed-off as it seems capable of many things, but it
is not:

WYSIWYG

and it uses an obscure form of O-O BASIC

also, I think it is being developed by one chap
in his/her spare bedroom (which, actually, is
incredible) so does not have all the backup,
know-how and investment that RunRev can boast.

Stacks I particularly like:

Note Player

Stock quotes

Books HC  (The name of that one is a dead giveaway where
the developer is coming from).
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Re: Found it!!! (Was: Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?)

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 12/6/09 4:48 PM, Dom wrote:

J. Landman Gay  wrote:

   

Did you change the javascript in the html file? That's all it needs.
Also make sure the source parameter is the name of your mainstack in
both cases.
 

I tried hard ;-)

Again and again... with no luck
-- until I noticed the"" style parameters!!!

the first DIV in given this parameter: "display: block" instead of
"display: none" as created by Media (or Studio*)

the second DIV, which host the substack, is given NO display parameter

and... that works!!!

so, it was more of a page problem, than a stack problem ;-)

* with Studio I can't help Studio creating Mac and Windows standalone,
along with the "Web" standalone


   


Sorry to hear * that Dom; what exactly do you mean by:

"with Studio I can't help Studio creating Mac and Windows standalone,
along with the "Web" standalone"

I just created 4 standalones (Mac, Win, Lin and Web) from 1 stack (on
a Mac computer) with Studio.
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Found it!!! (Was: Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?)

[Dom]

J. Landman Gay  wrote:

> Did you change the javascript in the html file? That's all it needs. 
> Also make sure the source parameter is the name of your mainstack in 
> both cases.

I tried hard ;-)

Again and again... with no luck
-- until I noticed the"" style parameters!!!

the first DIV in given this parameter: "display: block" instead of
"display: none" as created by Media (or Studio*)

the second DIV, which host the substack, is given NO display parameter

and... that works!!!

so, it was more of a page problem, than a stack problem ;-)

* with Studio I can't help Studio creating Mac and Windows standalone,
along with the "Web" standalone


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Re: Text encoding problem

[David Bovill]

Thanks so much for that i was getting myself in a real twist over all the
combinations - don't suppose your name has lead to influencing your
expertise in these matters :)

I've also run into problems sorting containers - and the documentation /
comment system is not helping:

sort unicodeIndex
> sort international unicodeIndex
>

don't seem to work - ever? or with certain encodings? Anyone know how to
sort unicode - so far I'm having to lock the screen and put it into a field
and then sort the field - I'd like to simply sort the data in memory.


2009/12/6 Björnke von Gierke 

> wow, that's some devilishly encoded stuff!
>
> this will create it:
> put urlencode(unidecode(uniencode(isotomac("Güstrow")),"utf8"))
>
> of which the inverse would be:
>
> put mactoiso(unidecode(uniencode(urldecode("G%C5%B8strow"),"utf8")))
>
> or you could combine them...
>
> put
> mactoiso(unidecode(uniencode(urldecode(urlencode(unidecode(uniencode(isotomac("Güstrow")),"utf8"))),"utf8")))
>
>
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2009, at 03:50, David Bovill wrote:
>
>  How do I convert the following text "Güstrow" to "G%C5%B8strow"? Kind of
>> stuck :(
>>
>
>
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Re: problem with sending functions to other cards over riding message path

[william humphrey]

>
> I solved this problem by using globals as I couldn't get the parameter to
>> pass any way I tried. It's a good thing that RunRev has so many different
>> ways you can do the same thing.
>>
>
The one thing I did conclude is that you can't load the dgData into a
DataGrid that is in another stack.



>
>> william humphrey-2 wrote:
>> >
>> > and that you can only set the dgData of a DataGrid if the script is in
>> the
>> > background of the same stack or in the card so I'm doing that but I need
>> > to
>> > send parameters form another stack to that stack where the DataGrid is
>> and
>> > the message path is driving me crazy!
>> >
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Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 12/6/09 2:30 AM, Judy Perry wrote:
And of course, this is something everybody has been saying now since 
at least the 2nd Monterey conference.  It may not be enough to make 
available a free product that just dumps you straight into the world 
of scripting. Even Hypercard didn't do that!  It provided a very and 
gentle graceful path to the world of making your own stuff, and that 
is perhaps part of the reason for it becoming as successful as it did.




Well said, Judy!

What is perhaps needed, along with Free RevMedia, is a suite of little 
programs that
can be popped together without any scripting at all, and, maybe, a stack 
with a set

of 'moronic' buttons (go back, go next, go prev, etc.) for copy-pasting.

There is a problem, and I feel it is this:

There need to be 2 completely distinct RunRev websites:

1. All-singing-all-dancing programmers' website selling Studio and 
Enterprise with
all sorts of comparisons between RunRev and other programming 
'arrangements'
(using that term to avoid the continuum between 
languages-qua-languages and

the visual drag-n-drop-n-no-scripting-at-all type of stuff).

2.  A dedicated RevMedia site (which, of course, would 'push' Studio) 
which down-plays
   the geeky-scripty sort of stuff and concentrates on the "gentle 
graceful path to the world
   of making your own stuff"; and, while I am in a complimentary mood; 
Judy, that really is

   a super way of putting things.

I also believe that the Folks at RunRev cannot quite decide which way to 
jump.


There really doesn't have to be a decision; with a bit of thought they 
can cut the legs from
under HyperStudio and Co. as well as some of the "real" programming 
arrangements.


Gr . . . HyperStudio should be history by now. I don't know why, but 
Wagner's product
(now being peddled by MacKiev) reminds me so much of cheap, Chinese 
imitations of
LEGO. It is the old problem (c.f. Windows versus Linux); let's pay for a 
second-rate
product (HyperStudio) when there is something quite considerably better 
for free

(RevMedia).
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Re: OT: Panorama software

[Jérôme Rosat]

Personally I use Autopano Giga 2.

It costs 199 €.

But Autopano Pro 2 is great too. It costs 99 €.

See http://www.autopano.net

Jérôme


Le 6 déc. 2009 à 03:34, Sivakatirswami a écrit :

> I keep dreaming that one day I will get beyond admin and have time to do some 
> "creative" well it may be soon.
> 
> What are everyone recommendations as of 2010
> 
> for best tools for creating panoramas (including 360 degree horizontal over 
> head ones) on Mac OSX?
> 
> I see a an open source package which runs on Macs:
> 
> Hugin -- Free
> 
> http://hugin.sourceforge.net/download/
> 
> Autopano gets great reviews but $$379.00 seems a bit outrageous?
> 
> Panoweaver only outputs Flash...
> 
> Lots of windows only options which I can't use.
> 
> ??
> 
> Sivakatirswami
> 
> 
> 
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