LibURL and Snow Leopard

2010-01-22 Thread Jim Ault
I am getting my first exposure to a computer running Snow Leopard and  
just discovered two things that don't seem to work


SMTP
FTP uploading

Rev 3.5 installed, running in the IDE, no luck.
Compiled app, no luck

Is there something I should read before digging into details about  
firewalls, etc.?


Thanks,

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: A problem with replicating a subgroup

2010-01-22 Thread Andre.Bisseret


Le 22 janv. 10 à 00:12, planix a écrit :



Hi Andre,

The mod that you suggested, setting the topleft of the new to the  
bottom
left of the old worked perfectly. Just the way I want it to. Thanks  
very

much for that.




Bonjour Alistair,

Your are welcome!

This list is like a race: often when I am on the verge of responding  
to a question, I see that a couple of people has already answered ;-))

Very happy when I win ;-o)))

Best regards from Grenoble
André





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Re: raising the font size in dialog boxes, howto?

2010-01-22 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Björnke

Yes, many thanks, it does work perfectly.  But the tedium of it!  I guess
one just uses cut and paste a lot.  Really, you would think this should be a
standard feature.  But you do notice that Rev seems peculiarly insensitive
to less than 20/20 vision.  With a new wide screen I find myself peering at
what looks like 6 point font on the dictionary and also in the little drop
down menus in the IDE.  Yes, I know one can get your version of the
dictionary, and I will probably end up doing this to avoid going even more
blind than I am now.

Thanks

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OT: Free GifAnimator for Windows

2010-01-22 Thread runrev260805
Hi,
does anyone of the list know a good GifAnimator, which is also freeware?
 
Regards,
 
Matthias


 
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Re: OT: Free GifAnimator for Windows

2010-01-22 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi MadHias,

 Hi,
 does anyone of the list know a good GifAnimator, which is also freeware?
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias

animated GIFs are SO OLDSCHOOL! :-D

Just kidding, Mac or Win?


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Re: OT: Free GifAnimator for Windows

2010-01-22 Thread Matthias Rebbe



Ah,i forgot to mention that also in message itself. Windows.

Matthias, der lieber Mett isst, als Mad ist;)

Am 22.01.2010 um 14:50 schrieb Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com:


Hi MadHias,


Hi,
does anyone of the list know a good GifAnimator, which is also  
freeware?


Regards,

Matthias


animated GIFs are SO OLDSCHOOL! :-D

Just kidding, Mac or Win?


Best

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Re: OT: Free GifAnimator for Windows

2010-01-22 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Matthias,

 Ah,i forgot to mention that also in message itself. Windows.
 
 Matthias, der lieber Mett isst, als Mad ist;)

Mahlzeit :-)

Sorry folks, untranslatable german joke :-D

OK, three seconds with Guurgel gave me this for example:
http://www.toggle.com/lv/group/view/kl34879/Microsoft_GIF_Animator.htm


Best

Klaus


P.S.
Oh boy, SO OLDSCHOOL... ;-)

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trunc(?)

2010-01-22 Thread dunbarx
This came up in the forum. Someone was getting hung up with an object 
reference.

Paraphrasing:

set numberformat to #.00
put 1 into y
add 0 to y
put foo into field (myField  y)

Rev thought it was field myField1.00, not field myfield1.

I advised him to extract the integer portion only by using the offset 
function. Works fine.

But I cavalierly thought that trunc would work too. It does not. Even 
though the docs say that trunc returns an integer, it does not when the 
numberFormat is in   play:

on mouseUp
set numberformat to #.00
put 1 into y
add 0 to y
answer trunc(y) -- yields 1.00
end mouseUp

Neither does the round function.

Same in HC, by the way.

Bug? Glitch? Newman not getting it again?

Craig Newman
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Re: OT: Free GifAnimator for Windows

2010-01-22 Thread viktoras d.

http://www.whitsoftdev.com/unfreez/

runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:

Hi,
does anyone of the list know a good GifAnimator, which is also freeware?
 
Regards,
 
Matthias



 
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Re: trunc(?)

2010-01-22 Thread Björnke von Gierke

On 22 Jan 2010, at 16:19, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

  Even though the docs say that trunc returns an integer, it does not when the 
 numberFormat is in   play
 Neither does the round function. 
 Same in HC, by the way.
 
 Bug? Glitch? Newman not getting it again?

I'd guess it's option d: legacy support
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Re-2: OT: Free GifAnimator for Windows

2010-01-22 Thread runrev260805
Thanks Klaus and Viktor.

Regards,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: OT: Free GifAnimator for Windows (22-Jan-2010 17:19)
From:viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

 http://www.whitsoftdev.com/unfreez/
 
 runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:
  Hi,
  does anyone of the list know a good GifAnimator, which is also freeware?
   
  Regards,
   
  Matthias
 
 
   
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[ANN] Create plugins for tRev!

2010-01-22 Thread Jerry Daniels
Want your script editor to do what YOU'D like it to do? You can. Just  
write a tRev plugin.


tRev now has a plugins manager that lets you create new plugins in a  
blink or transform an existing stack you have into a plugin for tRev.


Watch me add a couple plugins:

http://reveditor.com/write-your-own-plugins-for-trev

In the days to come, I'll be creating some simple, useful plugins  
(free) for you, and posting them in our plugins store. I'll also be  
putting out a simple API document so you can expand your reach into  
compiling, code formatting, colorizing, archiving to the web...all  
kind of things that you never thought you could do.


This is a big deal.

Best,

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Re: OT: Free GifAnimator for Windows

2010-01-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 22/01/2010 15:48, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:

Hi,
does anyone of the list know a good GifAnimator, which is also freeware?

Regards,

Matthias


   

Just poked around with ASK:

http://www.jhepple.com/gif_animator.htm

http://www.whitsoftdev.com/  UnFREEz 2.1


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Vista/Win7 priveleges

2010-01-22 Thread J. Landman Gay
I use Install Creator to make Windows installers. There is this warning 
in the docs:


Note about Vista: on Vista you shouldn't run your program from the 
installer, as it will be executed with administrator privileges. For 
example any file created with your program in administrator mode won't 
be overridable the next time your application will be executed, unless 
it is run as administrator.


How limiting is this to the average user? I know Vista/Win7 enforce a 
sort of super-admin mode and I think this is what installers use. Does 
this mean that any documents created after an auto-launch will not be 
accessible at all when the program next runs as a standard user? Even if 
they are logged in as admin? Or if not, what limitations would be 
enforced? I'm not clear on what overridable means here.


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Re: Vista/Win7 priveleges

2010-01-22 Thread Andre Garzia
That OS really annoys the  out of me!

That makes no sense at all.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

 I use Install Creator to make Windows installers. There is this warning in
 the docs:

 Note about Vista: on Vista you shouldn't run your program from the
 installer, as it will be executed with administrator privileges. For example
 any file created with your program in administrator mode won't be
 overridable the next time your application will be executed, unless it is
 run as administrator.

 How limiting is this to the average user? I know Vista/Win7 enforce a sort
 of super-admin mode and I think this is what installers use. Does this mean
 that any documents created after an auto-launch will not be accessible at
 all when the program next runs as a standard user? Even if they are logged
 in as admin? Or if not, what limitations would be enforced? I'm not clear on
 what overridable means here.

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File name extensions

2010-01-22 Thread Marty Knapp
I'm working on an application (Mac only at the moment) and was wondering 
about file name extensions. I poked around and found web sites that list 
file name extensions, but is there someplace official to register or 
search? Or am I free to use whatever I want? I registered a creator code 
with Apple, but don't know what to do from there.


Thanks,
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RE: Vista/Win7 priveleges

2010-01-22 Thread Jim Bufalini
Jacque wrote:
 
 I use Install Creator to make Windows installers. There is this warning
 in the docs:
 
 Note about Vista: on Vista you shouldn't run your program from the
 installer, as it will be executed with administrator privileges. For
 example any file created with your program in administrator mode won't
 be overridable the next time your application will be executed, unless
 it is run as administrator.
 
 How limiting is this to the average user? I know Vista/Win7 enforce a
 sort of super-admin mode and I think this is what installers use. Does
 this mean that any documents created after an auto-launch will not be
 accessible at all when the program next runs as a standard user? Even
 if
 they are logged in as admin? Or if not, what limitations would be
 enforced? I'm not clear on what overridable means here.

I suspect this to be a typo for over-writable? ;-)

Quite honestly, I've never heard of such a thing. 

First, it is true that in Vista/7 programs inherit permissions. So, if your
installer is running at highest permissions (which it has to) then, if it
launches another program, that launched program automatically inherits the
permissions of the installer (for that launch only).

That said, I always have a checkbox that is, by default, checked for running
a program after the installer quits. I have never had a problem with
permissions on ensuing launches of the program with files created by that
initial launch of the program. And, for example, the initial launch will do
things like create SQLite DB files, which must be accessed and modified by
the program on ensuing launches, create new registry entries that get
updated later, and other things.

So, I think you can safely ignore this warning unless on initial launch
your program writes something to, for example, the System32 directory and
then wants to totally overwrite that file later. 

Your bigger issue with Vista/7 is that on first launch, Vista is going to
put up a dialog asking permission from the user to allow the new EXE to run
and will block actual execution of the program until the user clicks
Allow. You need to account for this delay, especially if there are any
time-sensitive actions your program is going to take on first launch, like
accessing the Internet.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini



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Re: File name extensions

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Marty,

There are no official lists of file extensions. You are free to use  
whatever you want. The creator type registration at Apple is a relic  
from the past and you're free to ignore it, but I still think it is a  
good thing to register your new creator types there and to adhere to it.


I often use 4-character file extensions to reduce the probability that  
the file extension is widely used by a different application already.  
Whatever 3-char combination you choose, someone has probably already  
used it.


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Op 22 jan 2010, om 19:45 heeft Marty Knapp het volgende geschreven:

I'm working on an application (Mac only at the moment) and was  
wondering about file name extensions. I poked around and found web  
sites that list file name extensions, but is there someplace  
official to register or search? Or am I free to use whatever I  
want? I registered a creator code with Apple, but don't know what to  
do from there.


Thanks,
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Re: File name extensions

2010-01-22 Thread Marty Knapp
Thanks Mark - that's kind of what I thought. The four character idea 
sounds good.


Marty Knapp

Hi Marty,

There are no official lists of file extensions. You are free to use 
whatever you want. The creator type registration at Apple is a relic 
from the past and you're free to ignore it, but I still think it is a 
good thing to register your new creator types there and to adhere to it.


I often use 4-character file extensions to reduce the probability that 
the file extension is widely used by a different application already. 
Whatever 3-char combination you choose, someone has probably already 
used it.


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Re: Vista/Win7 priveleges

2010-01-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

Jim Bufalini wrote:


So, I think you can safely ignore this warning unless on initial launch
your program writes something to, for example, the System32 directory and
then wants to totally overwrite that file later. 


Thanks very much, Jim. Just what I needed to know. My app doesn't have 
any time-critical operations or write any files at launch, it just sits 
there and waits for the user to do something, so it sounds like we're 
okay. My client wants that auto-run checkbox because his customer base 
is largely computer illiterate. Many don't know how to start an app 
without it.


(Makes me wish you had to get some kind of license to run a computer.)

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RE: Vista/Win7 priveleges

2010-01-22 Thread Jim Bufalini
Jacque wrote:

 My client wants that auto-run checkbox because his customer base
 is largely computer illiterate. Many don't know how to start an app
 without it.
 
 (Makes me wish you had to get some kind of license to run a computer.)

Well, if they are that illiterate, you may want to consider starting your
splash screen (if on Vista) with a message that says something to the effect
of, *Please click Allow for any permissions your computer may request.*
Because if they click Deny, your program will never run on that computer
until it is removed from the blocked list. And, if they don't know how to
run a program, they certainly won't know how to do this.

When I say Vista blocks the program from running, it actually lets the
program load. But, before the program can do anything like access the
local hard drives, the dialog is presented. Also, let's say your program
does attempt to access the Internet or ports at some point, there could be a
second dialog presented.

So, for example, in one app I have, I do exactly this. When the program
first launches, I throw up a splash message telling them to click Allow to
any requests and then write a little text file and then make an unnecessary
and arbitrary request to the Internet. These two actions are just to force
any possible dialogs from Vista. When I get past the Internet request, I
take down the message. ;-)

Aloha from Hawaii,

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Re: trunc(?)

2010-01-22 Thread Sarah Reichelt
 But I cavalierly thought that trunc would work too. It does not. Even
 though the docs say that trunc returns an integer, it does not when the
 numberFormat is in   play:

 on mouseUp
    set numberformat to #.00
    put 1 into y
    add 0 to y
    answer trunc(y) -- yields 1.00
 end mouseUp

 Neither does the round function.

It seems that the numberFormat is taking precedence here.
If you try this in the message box:
   put trunc(1.00)
or
   put round(1.00)
you will get 1 as expected, but in your sample, the y is being
truncated, then the 2 decimal places are being re-applied for the
answer. You can check that this is what is happening by setting y to
something like 1.23, which makes your answer display 1.00

As a general rule, I much prefer using the format function to the
numberFormat. I feel that I have more control that way, since it is
only applied to numbers that I want to apply it to, instead of all
numbers which is what causes problems like the one with the field
reference.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Geometry manager

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque-

Thursday, January 21, 2010, 5:20:11 PM, you wrote:

 Bob Sneidar wrote:
 No Jacque, 41 IS the answer to everything. 42 is the answer to
 life, the universe and everything. You were just a little short. 

 Between this and the prime number business, no wonder I can't balance my
 checkbook. I count funny.

So let's see...

You're a little short, you count funny, and you can't balance your
checkbook... anything else you want to share?

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Re: LibURL and Snow Leopard

2010-01-22 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am getting my first exposure to a computer running Snow Leopard and just
 discovered two things that don't seem to work

 SMTP
 FTP uploading

 Rev 3.5 installed, running in the IDE, no luck.
 Compiled app, no luck

 Is there something I should read before digging into details about
 firewalls, etc.?


Both those are working fine for me Jim, but I am using Rev 4.0 and OS X 10.6.2
I don't think I changed any of the default firewall settings.

I can send you some sample stacks if that would help your diagnostics.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: LibURL and Snow Leopard

2010-01-22 Thread Jim Ault

Thanks, Sarah,
The client is actually using  a newer laptop (last June) OSX 10.5.8  
and Rev 3.5 IDE and compiled app.


For today I setup Screen Sharing to a Mac mini running my software, so  
a Friday crisis avoided.

It is still Friday here, and your Saturday morning.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On Jan 22, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com  
wrote:
I am getting my first exposure to a computer running Snow Leopard  
and just

discovered two things that don't seem to work

SMTP
FTP uploading

Rev 3.5 installed, running in the IDE, no luck.
Compiled app, no luck

Is there something I should read before digging into details about
firewalls, etc.?



Both those are working fine for me Jim, but I am using Rev 4.0 and  
OS X 10.6.2

I don't think I changed any of the default firewall settings.

I can send you some sample stacks if that would help your diagnostics.

Cheers,
Sarah





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Re: Geometry manager

2010-01-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Thursday, January 21, 2010, 5:20:11 PM, you wrote:


Bob Sneidar wrote:

No Jacque, 41 IS the answer to everything. 42 is the answer to
life, the universe and everything. You were just a little short. 



Between this and the prime number business, no wonder I can't balance my
checkbook. I count funny.


So let's see...

You're a little short, you count funny, and you can't balance your
checkbook... anything else you want to share?



I like brussels sprouts...

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Re: Geometry manager

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque-

Friday, January 22, 2010, 5:13:00 PM, you wrote:

 I like brussels sprouts...

There's hope for you yet. Try roasting them with sweet potatoes.

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Re: Geometry manager

2010-01-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 23/01/2010 03:13, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Thursday, January 21, 2010, 5:20:11 PM, you wrote:


Bob Sneidar wrote:

No Jacque, 41 IS the answer to everything. 42 is the answer to
life, the universe and everything. You were just a little short. 


Between this and the prime number business, no wonder I can't 
balance my

checkbook. I count funny.


So let's see...

You're a little short, you count funny, and you can't balance your
checkbook... anything else you want to share?



I like brussels sprouts...

Oh, my gosh; the BEST part of NOT living in Britain is not having 
brussel sprouts

foisted on me by people who assume that I MUST like the things.

Yesterday I had some kids doing an exam and I calculated the final marks
with my trusty Thornton sliderule; sucking the end of which is far better
than brussel sprouts!
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