Re: RunRev and Linux

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Richard keeps telling us that Linux now has low market share, as a reason or
excuse for Rev to sell a Linux product that doesn't work.  It is not. 
Market size and present product profitability is totally irrelevant to this
issue.   Market size and investment are relevant to whether to enter a
market segment.  Once you have made that decision, its real simple.

Don't sell stuff that doesn't work!  If it turns out not to work, and you
cannot afford to fix it, you have to stop selling it. 

If I can do anything to help make it work, just ask me.  I have limited
abilities and energy now, but I will do what I can that Rev would find
useful.  The potential is great.


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Re: RunRev and Linux, Peter Alcibiades palc

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Alcibiades

I shall wait for 4.5 and hope that these issues are fixed in it.  Meanwhile,
I'll learn either PyQT or RealBasic in parallel, because I have to have a
Plan B.  And either one is going to provide the intellectual exercise that
was one motive for getting into Rev.  I'll use Rev as little as possible
meanwhile, with Geany as an external editor.  I'll rewrite my reporting
stuff in awk and pass it to a spreadsheet or word processor for printing. 
I've downloaded the dictionary in html, so at least it can be open in
readable and somewhat searchable form on another desktop.  

And, as Richmond suggests, go for long walks in the hills.  Where I live
this translates to go for long rows on the lakes and rivers of this watery
landscape, but whatever.  Its an alternative method of keeping blood flowing
in the brain, and a valuable antidote to intellectual frustration!

Thanks to you all for listening, and thanks to you in particular, Richard,
for your patient replies.
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread René Micout
Le 9 avr. 2010 à 19:15, Devin Asay a écrit :

 put qlmanage -p   theFile into tcmd -- shows it in a black window

Devin,
When I launch the script above, I have [DEBUG] in the title bar.
How can I remove it ?
And where can I find all details about qlmanage fonction (even in Apple 
documentation I don't find explanations about parameters...) ?
Thank you
Bon souvenir de Paris
René

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Re: [OT] What's an iPad?

2010-04-12 Thread Pierre Sahores

Jobs last explainations ...

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-offers-explanation-about-iphone-sdk-changes-restricting-adobe-and-other-cross-compilers/ 



Best, P.

Le 12 avr. 10 à 05:08, stephen barncard a écrit :


Excellent dissertation, Geoff!

sqb

On 11 April 2010 19:48, Geoff Canyon Rev
gcanyon+...@gmail.comgcanyon%2b...@gmail.com

wrote:



I think it's going to take a few years, but it's going to replace
other ways of using computers:

http://gcanyon.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/the-ipad-revolution-its-1984-all-over-again/

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Richmond Mathewson
richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

My top 3 ideas are:

1. Swank toy.

2. Castrated computer for people who don't need laptops or PCs.

3. Tree-Free book.

What are yours?  Come on you-all . . .  :0
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread stephen barncard
I get the name of the file that I'm 'quick looking' - MacOS105.8 G5 Rev 4.5
dp3

On 12 April 2010 00:43, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:

 Le 9 avr. 2010 à 19:15, Devin Asay a écrit :

  put qlmanage -p   theFile into tcmd -- shows it in a black window

 Devin,
 When I launch the script above, I have [DEBUG] in the title bar.
 How can I remove it ?
 And where can I find all details about qlmanage fonction (even in Apple
 documentation I don't find explanations about parameters...) ?
 Thank you
 Bon souvenir de Paris
 René

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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Jim Sims

On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:43 AM, René Micout wrote:

 Le 9 avr. 2010 à 19:15, Devin Asay a écrit :
 
 put qlmanage -p   theFile into tcmd -- shows it in a black window
 
 Devin,
 When I launch the script above, I have [DEBUG] in the title bar.
 How can I remove it ?
 And where can I find all details about qlmanage fonction (even in Apple 
 documentation I don't find explanations about parameters...) ?


René - Open Terminal in OS X, then type man qlmanage
Also, using Google will turn up some comments on using it.

ciao,
sims




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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread René Micout
Thank you, but I know that in Apple documentation...
What about -d, -x, -s, -f, -c, -g parameters ?
René

Le 12 avr. 2010 à 10:06, Jim Sims a écrit :

 
 On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:43 AM, René Micout wrote:
 
 Le 9 avr. 2010 à 19:15, Devin Asay a écrit :
 
 put qlmanage -p   theFile into tcmd -- shows it in a black window
 
 Devin,
 When I launch the script above, I have [DEBUG] in the title bar.
 How can I remove it ?
 And where can I find all details about qlmanage fonction (even in Apple 
 documentation I don't find explanations about parameters...) ?
 
 
 René - Open Terminal in OS X, then type man qlmanage
 Also, using Google will turn up some comments on using it.
 
 ciao,
 sims
 
 
 
 
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Jim Sims

On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:51 AM, René Micout wrote:

 Thank you, but I know that in Apple documentation...
 What about -d, -x, -s, -f, -c, -g parameters ?



I'm not sure what you want, but if you use qlmanage -h you will get information 
on them (as shown below). I mainly used it to display images, but I was also 
able to use it to preview MS Word files and also iWorks files.


Also, I used the kill command as shown in this web page:  
http://srhaber.com/blog/2007/11/04/quick-look-from-the-command-line/

I also found this web page useful:   http://www.tuaw.com/tag/qlmanage/

--

jim-sims-Computer-2:~ sims$ qlmanage -h
Usage: qlmanage [OPTIONS] path...
-h  Display this help
-r  Force reloading Generators list
-r cacheReset thumbnail disk cache
-m [name ...]   Display statistics about quicklookd. Stats names:
* plugins   Show the generators list
* serverShow quicklookd life information
* memoryShow quicklookd memory consumption
* burst Show statistics about the last burst
* threads   Show concurrent accesses stats
* other Show other information about quicklookd
-d debugLevel   Integer between 1-4
-p  Compute previews of the documents
-t  Compute thumbnails of the documents
-x  Use quicklookd (remote computation)
-i  Compute thumbnail in icon mode
-s size Size for the thumbnail
-f factor   Scale factor for the thumbnail
-z  Display generation performance info (don't display 
thumbnails)
-o dir  Output result in dir (don't display thumbnails or 
previews)
-c contentType  Force the content type used for the documents
-g generatorForce the generator to use

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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread René Micout
I know the 2 web pages (and others...).
But none of them gave details on the parameters...
Thank you for information about parameter -d  integer between 1 -4.
I search where I can find informations about parameter -x, parameter -s (size, 
but what ?), parameter -f (scale factor, but what ?), parameter -c (content 
type, but ?), parameter -g.
I need what value put for above parameters...
In french, I think, my expression will be better...
Thank you
René
 
Le 12 avr. 2010 à 11:02, Jim Sims a écrit :

 
 On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:51 AM, René Micout wrote:
 
 Thank you, but I know that in Apple documentation...
 What about -d, -x, -s, -f, -c, -g parameters ?
 
 
 
 I'm not sure what you want, but if you use qlmanage -h you will get 
 information on them (as shown below). I mainly used it to display images, but 
 I was also able to use it to preview MS Word files and also iWorks files.
 
 
 Also, I used the kill command as shown in this web page:  
 http://srhaber.com/blog/2007/11/04/quick-look-from-the-command-line/
 
 I also found this web page useful:   http://www.tuaw.com/tag/qlmanage/
 
 --
 
 jim-sims-Computer-2:~ sims$ qlmanage -h
 Usage: qlmanage [OPTIONS] path...
   -h  Display this help
   -r  Force reloading Generators list
   -r cacheReset thumbnail disk cache
   -m [name ...]   Display statistics about quicklookd. Stats names:
   * plugins   Show the generators list
   * serverShow quicklookd life information
   * memoryShow quicklookd memory consumption
   * burst Show statistics about the last burst
   * threads   Show concurrent accesses stats
   * other Show other information about quicklookd
   -d debugLevel   Integer between 1-4
   -p  Compute previews of the documents
   -t  Compute thumbnails of the documents
   -x  Use quicklookd (remote computation)
   -i  Compute thumbnail in icon mode
   -s size Size for the thumbnail
   -f factor   Scale factor for the thumbnail
   -z  Display generation performance info (don't display 
 thumbnails)
   -o dir  Output result in dir (don't display thumbnails or 
 previews)
   -c contentType  Force the content type used for the documents
   -g generatorForce the generator to use
 
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Re: RunRev and Linux, Peter Alcibiades palc

2010-04-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 12/04/2010 10:29, Peter Alcibiades wrote:

I shall wait for 4.5 and hope


Quite . . . it would be rather nice if:

1. We could have some sort of idea when 4.5 is due.

2. What specifically Linux things will be changed and/or
 improved in 4.5.

I must say, I wonder why the RunRev folk are keeping whatever is going
to be in 4.5 so close to their collective chest . . . it doesn't exactly 
help us

with any sort of forward planning.

Apple start swanking about the next best thing fairly early on, as
do Microsoft (the fact that, on the whole, in both cases, nothing quite 
lives

up to one's expectations is another story); while Linux distros (better not
use the U word) leak alpha, betas, release candidates and so on rather
like my kitchen tap.

Hey; anybody want to start a website called RevRumors ? :

http://www.macrumors.com/

http://www.macbidouille.com/

and have fun getting threatening letters, legal injunctions and so forth 
. . .  :)


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Meanwhile, Peter, I wish you all the best in your physical exercise.

I find I do my most creative programming when I am quite a 'safe distance'
from a computer, and preferably, out in the fresh air. Either that or
tucked up in bed and off on that mysterious astral plain where all
computer programming problems seem to be resolved with little or
no fuss . . .  :)
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Re: [OT] What's an iPad?

2010-04-12 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I guess I should have said portable. That would be funny watching my friend in 
her wheelchair dragging around an old Mac trying to talk to people at the local 
cafe shop. ;-)

On Apr 11, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

 On 11/04/2010 20:29, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
 The iPad is a chance for people who can not speak to be able to Afford and 
 Use an inexpensive and sexy device to speak for them as in my iPad 
 application I Can Speak. For the first time in history someone can buy a 
 speech device for less than the typical $5,000 to $10,000.
 I wonder: Surely any old Mac running Mac OS 8.5 can do that with all those 
 voices?
 
 The IPad is a wonderful opportunity for good software that looks great and 
 is intuitive to use. As a designer, prototyper, and developer it breathes 
 new life into my entire business.
 
 
 
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Klaus on-rev
Bonjour René,

 Le 9 avr. 2010 à 19:15, Devin Asay a écrit :
 put qlmanage -p   theFile into tcmd -- shows it in a black window
 Devin,
 When I launch the script above, I have [DEBUG] in the title bar.
 How can I remove it ?

I'm afraid you can't!

I have been seaarching the net for a solution for the DEVBUG in the window 
title,
but apparently this is how it works on OS X = 10.6!

Of course I would be very happy if we can get rid of it! :-)

 And where can I find all details about qlmanage fonction (even in Apple 
 documentation I don't find explanations about parameters...) ?
 Thank you
 Bon souvenir de Paris
 René

Best

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Re: [OT] What's an iPad?

2010-04-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 12/04/2010 14:39, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I guess I should have said portable. That would be funny watching my friend in 
her wheelchair dragging around an old Mac trying to talk to people at the local 
cafe shop. ;-)

PowerBook_5300

Clamshell iBook

wouldn't go too badly with the wheelchair; as your friend is a lady she 
might enjoy having a

colour-coordinated Clamshell:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBook

If, for the sake of argument; your friend were semi-quadreplegic and had 
some motor-control problems with
her hands/fingers she might be rather well-off if she could connect some 
sort of pointing device to her speech-machine
(joystick, big trackball ?); and I don't know whether you can do that 
with an iPad.


About 30 years ago I did a volunteer spot (between school and Uni') in a 
residential home for

disabled people and, there, I came across something called a Possum.

http://www.possum.co.uk/   I remember a screen of some sort with letter 
icons on it (the first time I saw any sort of GUI)

and some sort of Rebus system for communication.

There was one chap there who was 90% paralysed
and used a chin-switch (very effectively - a wonderful bloke, full of 
joy and good humour; very humbling):


http://www.disabledonline.com/products/direct-products/switches/general-switches/chin-switch-by-possum/

I see that the iPad has a USB2 connexion - but whether the iPhone OS 
will recognise pointing devices (seems unlikely) . . .  ?


I don't know whether Wireless or Bluetooth Joysticks exist.

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for quite some time how well

RunRev would interact with a USB foot-pedal.
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Re: Do ... as Applescript, bugs??

2010-04-12 Thread Andrew Meit
My error msg: Execution Error

The file name changes each time its run for its created via Rev script. So no 
file is made till the end. And I have to go through AS editor because am 
creating AS files on the fly for later use. It appears Rev is somehow not 
letting go of its connection to the AS Editor. I am trying not to have to type 
stuff out a lot due to my disabilities thats why am creating this. Please, 
someone...help. Thanks.


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Re: RunRev and Linux

2010-04-12 Thread Richard Gaskin

Peter Alcibiades wrote:

 Richard keeps telling us that Linux now has low market share,
 as a reason or excuse for Rev to sell a Linux product that
 doesn't work.

No, I explained the factors which affect prioritization at a company 
like RunRev.


I will not reiterate that anymore.  The archives for this list are 
available here:

http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/


 Don't sell stuff that doesn't work!  If it turns out not to work,
 and you cannot afford to fix it, you have to stop selling it.

The readers of this user-to-user forum will not be able to help you with 
this request.  You can contact RunRev here:

http://www.runrev.com/company/contact-us/


In another post you wrote:

 I shall wait for 4.5 and hope that these issues are fixed in it.

Let me save you some time:  while I'm aware of pending changes to the 
engine which may address some of the issues you've had, I'm not aware of 
anything in v4.5 specifically which will do so.



 And, as Richmond suggests, go for long walks in the hills.  Where
 I live this translates to go for long rows on the lakes and rivers
 of this watery landscape, but whatever.  Its an alternative method
 of keeping blood flowing in the brain, and a valuable antidote to
 intellectual frustration!

As an avid backpacker I can't speak highly enough of the value of a good 
walk.  If you come to California during the fall or spring I would be 
happy to share some of the Mojave desert with you.  I find a couple days 
immersed in the sparse beauty of the desert very refreshing.



 Thanks to you all for listening, and thanks to you in particular,
 Richard, for your patient replies.

Happy to help when I can.

Best of luck with your endeavors.

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Re: [OT] What's an iPad?

2010-04-12 Thread Ian Wood


On 12 Apr 2010, at 13:10, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

I see that the iPad has a USB2 connexion - but whether the iPhone OS  
will recognise pointing devices (seems unlikely) . . .  ?


The iPad does *not* have a USB port. There's a camera adapter kit with  
a USB port, but nobody knows if this can be used for anything but  
connecting to a camera.


Ian
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Re: [OT] What's an iPad?

2010-04-12 Thread Colin Holgate

On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Ian Wood wrote:

 The iPad does *not* have a USB port. There's a camera adapter kit with a USB 
 port, but nobody knows if this can be used for anything but connecting to a 
 camera.


The iPad connects to my Mac via its USB cable, for what that's worth.



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Re: [OT] What's an iPad?

2010-04-12 Thread Ian Wood


On 12 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Colin Holgate wrote:


On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Ian Wood wrote:

The iPad does *not* have a USB port. There's a camera adapter kit  
with a USB port, but nobody knows if this can be used for anything  
but connecting to a camera.


The iPad connects to my Mac via its USB cable, for what that's worth.


A USB cable is not a USB port... ;-)

Like I said, at this point nobody knows if it's possible to plug USB  
devices such as mice into an iPad via the Camera Connector Kit.


Ian
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Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
Good technically thorough post on use of frameworks, run time on iPhone/iPad OS:

   http://www.devwhy.com/blog/2010/4/12/its-all-about-the-framework.html

Last paragraph best, where author wants HyperCard Touch for iPad. Kevin and 
company should be awarded that contract.  

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off:
http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch

On Apr 11, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote:

 
 On 12/04/10 8:47 AM, Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com wrote:
 
 While the iPad is no LaserDisk, it will have to do.  :)
 
 For educational consumption media (multimedia), the iPad is what was promised
 15-20 years before it could be implemented.  I think it could prove very, 
 very
 valuable in education on myriad levels.  Unfortunately we are living in an 
 era
 of broken budgets and cynicism on so many levels when it comes to education.
 
 When developers, working with educators, can make a decent living on
 developing educational software, good software may come.  When the interface
 become obscured enough so teachers and students don't have to spend so much
 frustration capital problem-solving, when the per unit price point becomes 
 low
 enough, and when the software and interfaces becomes clever enough, perhaps
 some universal good will come of it and it's counterparts.  I'm hopeful.  It
 will never replace the laptop, but with an added keyboard and pointing device
 it could certainly do dual service as one... after all, it is a monitor.
 
 I still think netbooks offer greater flexibility overall but we're certainly
 considering iPads for use by medical students in clinical settings. The
 tablet form seems just about right in that case (no moving parts). I'm very
 much hoping that the recent iPhone OS licensing changes don't shut Rev out
 of the picture.
 
 Terry...
 
 Mark
 
 On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:48 PM, René Micout wrote:
 
 
 Le 11 avr. 2010 à 17:40, Richard Gaskin a écrit :
 
 
 In brief, I see the iPad as one of the most powerful an innovative media
 CONSUMPTION devices ever.  But for media AUTHORING, we still have 
 computers.
 
 Richard
 I agree with that.
 I also think that the usefulness of the iPad has not yet been revealed. For
 now, the only applications that have been shown are only adjusting the 
 iPhone
 apps (question of scale) or Macintosh applications tailored to the iPad
 (question of use). The best is yet to come, at least I hope so. I'm waiting
 for new programs and it is true that I would like to build them myself. Time
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Devin Asay

On Apr 12, 2010, at 1:43 AM, René Micout wrote:

 Le 9 avr. 2010 à 19:15, Devin Asay a écrit :
 
 put qlmanage -p   theFile into tcmd -- shows it in a black window
 
 Devin,
 When I launch the script above, I have [DEBUG] in the title bar.
 How can I remove it ?
 And where can I find all details about qlmanage fonction (even in Apple 
 documentation I don't find explanations about parameters...) ?

Other more knowledgeable folks have already commented on this in this thread. 
I'm sorry, I don't know the answer. I only just noticed it myself, having 
recently upgraded to 10.6. Everything I know I learned from Jim Sims and Bernd, 
and from reading through the man page. 

Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
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Re: Showcase of Rev-built apps?

2010-04-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Ian Wood wrote:
Against my own better judgement, I've got involved in one of the iPhone 
SDK threads over on Ars, and of course brought Rev up as something that 
can build native-looking apps (something that is apparently impossible!).


Does anyone know of a showcase of Rev-built apps, or have links to some 
which are particularly Mac-like?


Have them look at Trevor's Screensteps, it's a good example.

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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks to all who responded to this.  the qlmanage function will work  
for some of the things I want to do but in other cases, I want to  
display data returned to my app from the SQLite db I'm using.  I guess  
that was the original genesis of my question on how to make a stack  
display in Rev that looks like the Quick Look window.  I could write  
the SQL data to a file I suppose but then I'm face with formatting it  
correctly instead of just displaying it in fields, etc on a card.


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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread stephen barncard
No matter what you want to do with an image using the shell in this case, at
least a temp file has to be created. Not a big deal, many apps do this all
the time. Look at tempName()

Anyway, a facsimile of the Quick Look window shouldn't be that hard to do
with 4.0's graphic effects.

On 12 April 2010 10:13, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:

 Thanks to all who responded to this.  the qlmanage function will work for
 some of the things I want to do but in other cases, I want to display data
 returned to my app from the SQLite db I'm using.  I guess that was the
 original genesis of my question on how to make a stack display in Rev that
 looks like the Quick Look window.  I could write the SQL data to a file I
 suppose but then I'm face with formatting it correctly instead of just
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 12/04/2010 20:30, stephen barncard wrote:

snip

Anyway, a facsimile of the Quick Look window shouldn't be that hard to do
with 4.0's graphic effects.


Wow; Cowabunga!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/FREAKY.rev.zip

well, it took this genius about 3 minutes (and that is because he's 
slow!).

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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson

  On 12/04/2010 20:30, stephen barncard wrote:

snip

Anyway, a facsimile of the Quick Look window shouldn't be that hard to do
with 4.0's graphic effects.


Wow; Cowabunga!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/FREAKY.rev.zip

well, it took this genius about 3 minutes (and that is because he's 
slow!).


I have just uploaded a new version of this which shows up a slight problem:
while it is a breeze to set the blend of a stack to, say, 50%; there is 
no way
that I can find to stop objects in the stack from inheriting that blend 
value.


My stack contains an image DEVO which I would like to have a blend value
of 0; and it does; but, because it inherits the blend value of the stack 
that

is overridden and the image is still partly transparent.

I think that those smoky, grey (whoops; gray), semi-transparent windows
in Mac are really very sexy; but they would be a lot sexier if they could be
used to contain/present fully opaque objects (such as images).
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Richmond,

You can't do that with Rev... In Rev all elements inherit the stacks own
blendlevel :-(

If you are not moving your stack, you can take a screenshot of the screen,
crop it, set it as background of the stack with a clever image with a blend,
then it will look like the effect you're trying to achieve but if the window
moves, the background will not move with it...



On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Richmond Mathewson 
richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

   On 12/04/2010 20:30, stephen barncard wrote:

 snip

 Anyway, a facsimile of the Quick Look window shouldn't be that hard to do
 with 4.0's graphic effects.

  Wow; Cowabunga!

 http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/FREAKY.rev.zip

 well, it took this genius about 3 minutes (and that is because he's
 slow!).

 I have just uploaded a new version of this which shows up a slight problem:
 while it is a breeze to set the blend of a stack to, say, 50%; there is no
 way
 that I can find to stop objects in the stack from inheriting that blend
 value.

 My stack contains an image DEVO which I would like to have a blend value
 of 0; and it does; but, because it inherits the blend value of the stack
 that
 is overridden and the image is still partly transparent.

 I think that those smoky, grey (whoops; gray), semi-transparent windows
 in Mac are really very sexy; but they would be a lot sexier if they could
 be
 used to contain/present fully opaque objects (such as images).

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Re: Thoughts on fetching data from iRev cgi's (in chunks)

2010-04-12 Thread David Bovill
Yes - either that or DreamHost?

On 11 April 2010 14:01, Michael Kann mikek...@yahoo.com wrote:

 David,

 Are you doing this on the on-rev server?

 --- On Sun, 4/11/10, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv wrote:

  From: David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv
  Subject: Thoughts on fetching data from iRev cgi's (in chunks)
  To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
  Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 6:28 AM
  What would be the best strategy for
  fetching a series of pieces of data from
  a url call to display the text first and then when ready
  the images or
  larger binary data?
 
  What I'd (naively) like to do is:
 
 1. Call the cgi  - possibly without
  using load url
 2. The CGI returns the text data
 3. After returning the text data the cgi
  goes and fetches the binary data
 - say a dozen or so images and stores
  them on the server
 4. Another call to the cgi (or a related
  cgi) returns the binary data if
 it has been loaded or still loading if
  it has not fetched all the images
 yet. (could be a load url call and only
  return the image data)
 
  At the moment I've been looping through the images and
  using load url call
  for each one - the logic on the client side gets quite
  messy on the client
  side and there are often hunreds of url calls going off
  everywhere, also
  there are cases where I'd like the server to do the asynch
  work, and not the
  client. Does anyone have any thoughts on a good strategy
  for incrementally
  fetching web data like this down to the client? Some fuzzy
  questions:
 
 1. Is it possible to get a cgi to return
  data first and still go on and
 do work afterwords (like fetch and cache
  the images on the server)
 2. Any possible uses of Cron jobs here -
  has anyone scripted cron jobs
 from Rev?
 3. What sort of things have people done
  with delayed action calls in iRev
 - is ti possible to use send in time or
  the equivalents?
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 12/04/2010 22:17, Andre Garzia wrote:

Richmond,

You can't do that with Rev... In Rev all elements inherit the stacks own
blendlevel :-(


Blast!


If you are not moving your stack, you can take a screenshot of the screen,
crop it, set it as background of the stack with a clever image with a blend,
then it will look like the effect you're trying to achieve but if the window
moves, the background will not move with it...



On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Richmond Mathewson
richmondmathew...@gmail.com  wrote:


   On 12/04/2010 20:30, stephen barncard wrote:


snip

Anyway, a facsimile of the Quick Look window shouldn't be that hard to do
with 4.0's graphic effects.

  Wow; Cowabunga!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/FREAKY.rev.zip


well, it took this genius about 3 minutes (and that is because he's

slow!).

I have just uploaded a new version of this which shows up a slight problem:
while it is a breeze to set the blend of a stack to, say, 50%; there is no
way
that I can find to stop objects in the stack from inheriting that blend
value.

My stack contains an image DEVO which I would like to have a blend value
of 0; and it does; but, because it inherits the blend value of the stack
that
is overridden and the image is still partly transparent.

I think that those smoky, grey (whoops; gray), semi-transparent windows
in Mac are really very sexy; but they would be a lot sexier if they could
be
used to contain/present fully opaque objects (such as images).

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Re: Thoughts on fetching data from iRev cgi's (in chunks)

2010-04-12 Thread Andre Garzia
David,

Check out HTTP Chunked Transfers, it will allow you to output chunks as you
compute them but be aware, I don't know if you can do that with on-rev.com

Cheers
andre

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:28 AM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote:

 What would be the best strategy for fetching a series of pieces of data
 from
 a url call to display the text first and then when ready the images or
 larger binary data?

 What I'd (naively) like to do is:

   1. Call the cgi  - possibly without using load url
   2. The CGI returns the text data
   3. After returning the text data the cgi goes and fetches the binary data
   - say a dozen or so images and stores them on the server
   4. Another call to the cgi (or a related cgi) returns the binary data if
   it has been loaded or still loading if it has not fetched all the
 images
   yet. (could be a load url call and only return the image data)

 At the moment I've been looping through the images and using load url call
 for each one - the logic on the client side gets quite messy on the client
 side and there are often hunreds of url calls going off everywhere, also
 there are cases where I'd like the server to do the asynch work, and not
 the
 client. Does anyone have any thoughts on a good strategy for incrementally
 fetching web data like this down to the client? Some fuzzy questions:

   1. Is it possible to get a cgi to return data first and still go on and
   do work afterwords (like fetch and cache the images on the server)
   2. Any possible uses of Cron jobs here - has anyone scripted cron jobs
   from Rev?
   3. What sort of things have people done with delayed action calls in iRev
   - is ti possible to use send in time or the equivalents?
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Redrawing datagrid from within

2010-04-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe

Ok, so I had a little handler that deletes all the data associated with any
given lease. It works fine when it is in the mouseUp of a button.

but, the boss would like the ability to double right click on the leaseName
of the grid and delete the lease (and all information attatched to it).

It works fine in deleting the data but my data grid breaks when I put this
into a column behavior. 

After poking around, I found this:

Don't call a handler that redraws the data grid from within a control in
the data grid
This will generate an error since you are deleting a control that is
currently executing code. This is a no-no and the Revolution engine will
complain and stop executing. You can avoid calling a handler that refreshes
the data grid from within a control by a) using send in time or b) placing
the code in the data grid script itself.

So, if I the handler that the doubleclick calls can't refresh the grid, when
and how can i?
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Fill an enhancement request on the QA Site and I will vote for it!

:D

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Richmond Mathewson 
richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 12/04/2010 22:17, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Richmond,

 You can't do that with Rev... In Rev all elements inherit the stacks own
 blendlevel :-(


 Blast!


  If you are not moving your stack, you can take a screenshot of the screen,
 crop it, set it as background of the stack with a clever image with a
 blend,
 then it will look like the effect you're trying to achieve but if the
 window
 moves, the background will not move with it...



 On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Richmond Mathewson
 richmondmathew...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 12/04/2010 20:30, stephen barncard wrote:

  snip

 Anyway, a facsimile of the Quick Look window shouldn't be that hard to
 do
 with 4.0's graphic effects.

  Wow; Cowabunga!

 http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/FREAKY.rev.zip

  well, it took this genius about 3 minutes (and that is because he's

 slow!).

 I have just uploaded a new version of this which shows up a slight
 problem:
 while it is a breeze to set the blend of a stack to, say, 50%; there is
 no
 way
 that I can find to stop objects in the stack from inheriting that blend
 value.

 My stack contains an image DEVO which I would like to have a blend
 value
 of 0; and it does; but, because it inherits the blend value of the stack
 that
 is overridden and the image is still partly transparent.

 I think that those smoky, grey (whoops; gray), semi-transparent windows
 in Mac are really very sexy; but they would be a lot sexier if they could
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Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread David Bovill
On 11 April 2010 16:40, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:


 But note that Apple didn't cancel their MacBook line when they introduced
 the iPad.


They would be a bit silly to do that at this stage. Note though they are
putting nearly all their investment into iPhone OS4 development and not OSX
development?


 Each has a very different task focus.


Yes - the question is which will become the mainstream computing device used
by most people? My guess is you feel that the laptop / desktop will be the
most common and devices like the iPad will fill a niche? Or do you think
that most computing devices will be like the iPad and PC's and laptops a
niche - used say only be developers?

But if you do a lot of typing, a device with a curved back doesn't lend
 itself well to laying flat, and holding it means typing with one hand, or
 leaning it against your crossed leg as Jobs did during the demo puts your
 wrists at a painfully vertical angle.  And beyond the question of whether
 the lack of physical feedback from a virtual keyboard will be important, the
 virtual keyboard on the iPad is missing a LOT of keys we're used to.  I just
 don't see writers or programmers falling in love with the iPad, at least not
 for work.


Personally - I'd say writing was over-rated - and that we are all going to
be quite surprised by how much we can do without it. Even so - the iPad has
a keypad, and with OS4 we can expect a lot more BlueTooth keypads
accompanying portable devices for those of us that need to write text more
efficiently - it just wont be physically attached to the device - you'll
have the option to bring it of do without.


 And then there's the difference between the quarter- to half-inch diameter
 of the human fingertip vs. the single-pixel pointer and what that means for
 precision layout tasks like making web pages or laying out controls in Rev.


And why not use a stylus? I'm actually not sure how accurate the screen of
the iPad is for stylus type use - but if the first generation deveice is not
- then expect this area to get better and better dramatically - this is not
a limitation of the touch screen interface - just a simple one of resolution
- no?


 But for media AUTHORING, we still have computers.


Possibly - yes. But that does not answer the really important question -
will 90% of machines we use to do every day computing tasks be what we now
call computers - or will they be something much more like an iPad? And if
say in 5 years time 7 out of 10 current PC users are using iPad type devices
- and only say a handful of developers are still using what we now
consider to be PC's - what does that mean for the industry we are in?

As a gamblin man - if anyone wants to place a long term bet against the
notion that laptops and PCs' are not going to take a heavy nose-dive in
sales, when compared to mobile phones and iPad style devices - I know where
I'd put my money - any takers out there :)
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Re: Implementing the Mac Quick Look type of window

2010-04-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Andre Garzia wrote:

 If you are not moving your stack, you can take a screenshot of the screen,
 crop it, set it as background of the stack with a clever image with a blend,
 then it will look like the effect you're trying to achieve but if the window
 moves, the background will not move with it...

As you correctly point out Andre, there is no built-in way to set varying
levels of transparency to different objects in a stack.  You must create a
custom window mask (bitmap) that defines which portions of the stack are
more transparent than others.

Instead of the above, the way to do this is to snapshot objects within the
stack, not the desktop background, to create the bitmap mask.  This way, the
stack will blend with whatever is behind it, anywhere it is dragged.  It
works perfectly, but the method is not dynamic so may not be suitable unless
you have a fairly static UI.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: Thoughts on fetching data from iRev cgi's (in chunks)

2010-04-12 Thread David Bovill
On 12 April 2010 20:36, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 David,

 Check out HTTP Chunked Transfers, it will allow you to output chunks as you
 compute them but be aware, I don't know if you can do that with on-rev.com


Thanks took a look - seems heavy - interesting for streaming maybe - but my
use case is for typical web siervices - where you first get some XML - then
go out and fetch say 20- 100 images (one at a time) that the XML references.
What would be great would be to first get the XML - layout something basic
in the Rev client and then go back to the server and fetch a bunch of images
in one go which in the man time the server has sorted for you - rather than
the client making 100 http calls? Seems sensible? Just never heard anyone do
this :)
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Re: Do ... as Applescript, bugs??

2010-04-12 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Andrew Meit meit...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 My error msg: Execution Error

 The file name changes each time its run for its created via Rev script. So no 
 file is made till the end. And I have to go through AS editor because am 
 creating AS files on the fly for later use. It appears Rev is somehow not 
 letting go of its connection to the AS Editor. I am trying not to have to 
 type stuff out a lot due to my disabilities thats why am creating this. 
 Please, someone...help. Thanks.


Andrew, can you provide more info about what you are trying to do here.

If you are using Rev to create AppleScript apps, then stop. I always
tell people that it is pointless trying to write AppleScript in Rev,
but to write it in the AS editor and when you are sure it works, then
transfer it to Rev.

When you say your script works once and then fails, are you trying to
save the same script each time? If not, maybe there is an error in the
second script that is preventing compilation.

Like I said before, I don't understand what you are trying to do, so
it is very hard to provide any useful advice.

Cheers,
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Re: Redrawing datagrid from within

2010-04-12 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote:

 Ok, so I had a little handler that deletes all the data associated with any
 given lease. It works fine when it is in the mouseUp of a button.

 but, the boss would like the ability to double right click on the leaseName
 of the grid and delete the lease (and all information attatched to it).

 It works fine in deleting the data but my data grid breaks when I put this
 into a column behavior.


If it works fine in a button's mouseUp, then just have your
double-right-click send a mouseUp to that button in 2 ticks or
something like that. This takes the processing out of the data grid
itself and all should be well.

Cheers,
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Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Richard Gaskin

David Bovill wrote:


On 11 April 2010 16:40, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote:

But note that Apple didn't cancel their MacBook line when they introduced
the iPad.


They would be a bit silly to do that at this stage. Note though they are
putting nearly all their investment into iPhone OS4 development and not OSX
development?


Yes, I'm aware that Android is a much stronger competitor to Apple than 
Microsoft is right now.  But it's also true that Apple just released OS 
X 10.6.3 a few days ago, and is about to enhance the MacBook line.


This is the first I've heard that Apple is killing OS X, so forgive me 
if I ask for sources on that.


So far all indications I've seen are that Apple intends to continue 
making computers as they expand their range of other devices, for at 
least the next few years as I wrote earlier.




Each has a very different task focus.


Yes - the question is which will become the mainstream computing device used
by most people? My guess is you feel that the laptop / desktop will be the
most common and devices like the iPad will fill a niche? Or do you think
that most computing devices will be like the iPad and PC's and laptops a
niche - used say only be developers?


I don't think it's an either or, and Apple isn't asking us to choose 
between them.


Indeed, they currently require that you own a computer to make full use 
of the iPad (though I suspect that will change over time).


Who knows what will come in the future?  As I wrote in an earlier blog 
entry:


   For whatever reasons, technical or otherwise, the iPad we saw
   yesterday is a compromised prototype of the touchscreen UI for
   something yet to come, a mere stepping stone toward a product
   that'll look very different by the time it's fully realized.
   ...
   My hunch is the iPad as we know it today will live about 24
   months while Apple prepares something truly amazing. This
   was good, but the reviews thus far have been mixed, noting
   its limitations relative to the mind-blowing Wow! Apple
   normally delivers.

   I believe that mind-blowing Wow! is on its way.

http://revjournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1264792195.952185

Certainly the WIMP is long overdue to be eclipsed by a new paradigm. 
But what that will look like is hard to say because it isn't here yet.


I believe the iPad hints at a step toward that future, but is not the 
end of that evolutionary path.




Personally - I'd say writing was over-rated - and that we are all going to
be quite surprised by how much we can do without it.


Exhibit A:  How are we communicating right now?

Exhibit B: Why are we on this list?

Exhibit C: How far would the sum of all human achievement have gotten 
without writing?


If anything I'd say writing is under-rated.  :)



And why not use a stylus?


Good question.  I look forward to seeing a vendor answer that.  Maybe 
Apple will be one of them.




As a gamblin man - if anyone wants to place a long term bet against the
notion that laptops and PCs' are not going to take a heavy nose-dive in
sales, when compared to mobile phones and iPad style devices - I know where
I'd put my money - any takers out there :)


Depends on the timeline.

The web was supposed to kill the desktop, as though no one noticed that 
it was taking place in an app that runs on the desktop.


People seem anxious to jump on the Everything you know is wrong 
excitement, but I'm just old enough to take a more relaxed view of change.


Yes, change is inevitable, even sweeping change, but humanity has a lot 
of inertia, in terms of markets, standards, and even the cognitive 
process itself.  All of these things take time to adjust, and new 
paradigms take a while to sort themselves out into workable models that 
are cost-effective and task-effective enough to completely supplant what 
came before.


Personally, the iPad seems much too large to be the long-term answer, 
and my guess is it's not where Apple's going in the long term.


As their patent filing I pointed to suggests, I see a brighter future 
for something that fits in your pocket and has no screen at all


Until that device is available for $299, I see a future of multiple 
devices for a variety of tastes and needs in which the only constant is 
that we need to think about dynamic screen sizes.


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Renaming a background using script

2010-04-12 Thread charles61

I have searched through Rev's documentation and could not find any way to
rename background using a script. Anybody have any experience with setting
or renaming a background using code?
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Re: Renaming a background using script

2010-04-12 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:15 AM, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:

 I have searched through Rev's documentation and could not find any way to
 rename background using a script. Anybody have any experience with setting
 or renaming a background using code?

I would assume that this would work:

set the name of group Blah to Whatever

or

set the name of group ID 1234 to Whatever

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Renaming a background using script

2010-04-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:15 AM, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:

I have searched through Rev's documentation and could not find any way to
rename background using a script. Anybody have any experience with setting
or renaming a background using code?


I would assume that this would work:

set the name of group Blah to Whatever

or

set the name of group ID 1234 to Whatever


Or if the group isn't on the current card:

 set the name of bg blah to whatever

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Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
Alike a 2.5 inches multi-tasked server we could connect from any in- 
output devices we would have to use along the daytime..., a terminal  
laptop, a video-projector, a tablet device, etc... ?


Best, P.

Le 12 avr. 10 à 23:09, Richard Gaskin a écrit :

As their patent filing I pointed to suggests, I see a brighter  
future for something that fits in your pocket and has no screen at  
all


Until that device is available for $299, I see a future of multiple  
devices for a variety of tastes and needs in which the only constant  
is that we need to think about dynamic screen sizes.


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Fourth World
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Windows frontmost app and Rev System Window

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Vlahos
The Rev system window is always supposed to float above all other windows. 
However, in Window 7 it only sort of does.

If a rev system window comes up it does float over everything else. However, it 
still appears to float above everything in that if I click on an application 
behind that application comes to the front but doesn't cover the Rev floating 
window but the title bar of the Rev floating window changes a little to 
indicate that it is no longer the frontmost window even though nothing else is 
drawn above it.

This is causing me a problem with the Login Assistant window in the next 
version of InfoWallet as it causes inconsistent behavior of the application.

Is there a way to make sure that the floating window is actually the frontmost 
window?

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Re: Windows frontmost app and Rev System Window

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Vlahos
Upon further testing I think something that is compounding the problem is that 
I'm testing this on a laptop with a trackpad where a tap is a mouse click. If I 
use a mouse it behaves more consistently. I wonder if the extra action of the 
trackpad is causing issues.

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On Apr 12, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

 The Rev system window is always supposed to float above all other windows. 
 However, in Window 7 it only sort of does.
 
 If a rev system window comes up it does float over everything else. However, 
 it still appears to float above everything in that if I click on an 
 application behind that application comes to the front but doesn't cover the 
 Rev floating window but the title bar of the Rev floating window changes a 
 little to indicate that it is no longer the frontmost window even though 
 nothing else is drawn above it.
 
 This is causing me a problem with the Login Assistant window in the next 
 version of InfoWallet as it causes inconsistent behavior of the application.
 
 Is there a way to make sure that the floating window is actually the 
 frontmost window?
 
 Bill Vlahos
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Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Andre Garzia
 How would we all like it if RunRev allowed any third party developer to
 just upload stuff that was automatically incorporated into the IDE, which
 then broke the IDE?


I do this at least twice per day...


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Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Jim Kanter
I expect a bright future for the iPad to become a controller device
for many apps. Think faders for mixing audio or video, or trackball
replacements for color correction and surround-sound mixing
applications. How long before stereos and televisions get bluetooth so
they can be controlled by the iPhone/iPad and its brethren?

If it is to replace laptops, I would expect it to replace the Macbook
and MacBook Air computers but NOT the MacBook Pro.
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Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Andre Garzia
nothing will ever replace my newton 2000... That thing could replace a
computer!

Sadly both my newton and my emate broke, soon, I will go shopping for
another one. As a writing device, nothing beats the emate with newtonworks.

thats me being nostalgic...

Now, if the iPad was half a newton, we would not have those silly eula
troubles.
Still the iPhone OS is quite good, specially version 4 that doesn't run on
my iPhone 3G...



On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jim Kanter j...@d-film.com wrote:

 I expect a bright future for the iPad to become a controller device
 for many apps. Think faders for mixing audio or video, or trackball
 replacements for color correction and surround-sound mixing
 applications. How long before stereos and televisions get bluetooth so
 they can be controlled by the iPhone/iPad and its brethren?

 If it is to replace laptops, I would expect it to replace the Macbook
 and MacBook Air computers but NOT the MacBook Pro.
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Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Ian Wood


On 13 Apr 2010, at 02:47, Andre Garzia wrote:

Still the iPhone OS is quite good, specially version 4 that doesn't  
run on

my iPhone 3G...


It runs, it just doesn't multi-task with third-party apps. :-(

Ian
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[ANN] InfoWallet updated to 1.1.07

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Vlahos
The big new feature is the Login Assistant now for Windows as well as 
Macintosh. I don't know how to implement it on Linux.

I implemented the VBScript SendKeys method instead of the SendInput() method 
because I was unable to get the DLL to load under Vista or Windows 7 in a 
reasonable manner due to security restrictions.

I've seen some inconsistency with it in some circumstances with a track pad on 
a laptop that has the tap = mouse click enabled. I would like any feedback on 
it. You can use the free demo version for testing.

Thanks,
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Record Audio for only 10 seconds?

2010-04-12 Thread John Patten
Hi All...

I'm attempting to create a little stack that will allow the user to record 
audio, their voice, for a specific amount of time.

I have the recording scripts down:

 put the long name of current stack into theTargetPath
   put the itemDel into tOrigItemDel
   set the itemDel to /
   delete last item of theTargetPath
   delete first item of theTargetPath
   put /  theTargetPath  /Recordings/ into theRecordingTarget
   --create a unique name for the audio file
   convert the date  the long time to seconds 
   put it into tFileName
hide me 
 show button Stop Recording
record sound file theRecordingTargettFilename
put theRecordingTargettFileName into cd fld recording name
set the itemDel to tOrigItemDel

However I'm not sure how to add the timer component. I'm thinking I will need 
to use a send statement, something like, send stop recording after 10 
seconds to current stack???

Thank you!

John Patten

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