Re: Shell Command with Sudo
Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: This is all very charming, but I wonder how one would effect this from a standalone on an end-user's machine . . . :) You'd have to write an install or first use shell script. Get the user, then the root password, then write an extra line to /etc/sudoers. The advantage, though it will not matter to many, is that you don't store the password in the app and don't have to supply it at each use of the commands, and that you have restricted your privileges to one named user and one variant of one command. Justin's solution is very nice, agreed. Probably more practical and certainly easier to do. But, you do end up storing the password, and what commands can be executed is not limited, nor is which user limited. Or maybe this is wrong? That is what the effect, I think, would be on Debian, which ships without sudo built in. Maybe these distros that ship with sudo are preconfigured to allow any user to sudo with their own login password? In which case they can do sudo su -? I don't much like that idea either, that cannot be surely? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Shell-Command-with-Sudo-tp2251593p2253279.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev revServer
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article7148846.ece 'Maclean is now working with software developers to circumvent Apple’s restrictions via a web app that he hopes “will offer everything an Apple app can, but you can access it with a browser like any internet page. On the other hand, maybe Apple will start being reasonable”.' Or maybe they will take it to the logical conclusion, and do web site censorship? Maybe this is impossible? Maybe they will do it anyway? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/WWDC-Keynote-HTML5-wide-open-for-On-Rev-revServer-tp2246637p2253298.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Can you imagine finding these directions on how to use installed fonts on a Python mailing list? Its simply ridiculous. Rev needs to make the fonts work on Rev like they do on all other applications. Or stop selling the thing! There are in excess of 20k packages in the Debian repositories. None of them, none, have problems recognizing installed fonts. If you are a systems programmer and writing programs that cannot manage fonts properly in the OS for which you are writing, its time to stop. Take up carpentry, or plumbing. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Installing-Linux-fonts-tp2219888p2253303.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do. How do you open the file? Do you get the user to select a file using the answer file dialog? If so, try something like this: global gOpenDataFile answer file Select a file to open: if it is empty then exit to top put it into gOpenDataFile put URL (file: gOpenDataFile) into tFileData -- process the file data as usual Now the global variable gOpenDataFile contains the full path to the data file that was opened. You can use this later when asking to save: global gOpenDataFile ask file Save data file? with gOpenDataFile And it will offer the same folder and file name as before. Note that if you select the same file name, the OS will give you a file exists warning, whereas if you just save directly using the file name, then it won't. -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DiagramCreator in beta.
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Hey all. Been busy creating a fun tool for creating diagrams using plain english sentences. The free beta version is available for both Mac and PC. http://blog.chipp.com Chipp, this is awesome! Thanks for sharing it. -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid with option menu filled from database
Hi, I put the option menu data load into the preopenstack, accessing directly to the datagrid template xx. I guess that is correct, isn't? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Datagrid-with-option-menu-filled-from-database-tp2253060p2253334.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution
Dear RunRev users, As you may have read in a recent RevUp at http://qurl.tk/cf , Economy- x-Talk has been working on an Installer Maker plugin for RunRev. This plugin helps you to create installers from your standalones. There's no longer a need for separate installer building software anymore: you can now do it all from within RunRev. The plugin currently creates installers for Windows and Mac OS X (regardless of the operating system you are currently using). You can read more about the Installer Maker plugin and obtain a license at http://qurl.tk/ce . Documentation and videos will be available soon. If you have any questions meanwhile, please send me an e-mail. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
Hi Sarah, The situation is the same as the user who has created and saved a document but then decides to make a change to the document before creating a new document. The dialog is essentially a Save As Dialog where the user is asked whether to save the document with the same name or disregard the changes and close the document. In my current dialog the user is given the standard save untitled.txt option. Instead, I would like the user to get a dialog that says Save the file abc or disregard the changes. Here abc is the name of the saved file before changes were made to the file. Hi Sarah, The situation is the same as the user who has created and saved a document but then decides to make a change to the document before creating a new document. The dialog is a reminder to the user to save the document before closing it with the same name or with a different name. In other words, it is a Save As Dialog that you would see if you were closing a document but have not saved some changes to the document. Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Sarah Reichelt-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do. How do you open the file? Do you get the user to select a file using the answer file dialog? If so, try something like this: global gOpenDataFile answer file Select a file to open: if it is empty then exit to top put it into gOpenDataFile put URL (file: gOpenDataFile) into tFileData -- process the file data as usual Now the global variable gOpenDataFile contains the full path to the data file that was opened. You can use this later when asking to save: global gOpenDataFile ask file Save data file? with gOpenDataFile And it will offer the same folder and file name as before. Note that if you select the same file name, the OS will give you a file exists warning, whereas if you just save directly using the file name, then it won't. -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253331.html To unsubscribe from Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253404.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Have you discuss here already that Apple changed SDK to allow cross-tools ?
Hi All, On russian news site about iphone I have to read That Apple have silently add in SDK license 3.3.2point That App can use something like this but only after written permission from apple. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Have you discuss here already that Apple changed SDK to allow cross-tools ?
Here's an article about it, that includes the relevant passages: http://www.appleoutsider.com/2010/06/10/hello-lua It seems more geared towards Electronic Arts games, where they use Lua to do overall game control. It's hard to say whether Rev apps would get away with the same conditions, because where as Lua is just controlling a bit of game logic, and not doing much to make the entire app function, Rev's scripts would be completely in control of what the app is doing. So it might fail the Application may use embedded interpreted code in a limited way if such use is solely for providing minor features or functionality... part. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
Ok, so the file is created or opened to start with. If its a pre-existing file that is opened by using answer file as long as the user doesn't cancel, the path to the chosen file will be in the it special variable. So if you put it into some place to store it, you then have the filename. YOU need to keep track of this until the file is closed so that you can use the information. If a new file is created and saved, again, as soon as its saved, you know the filename. Store it as stated above for later use. Use ask file to prompt the user for the initial save, then put it into a storage vehicle. Either way, at this point you as the programmer should be tracking the file name. So if you want to have a save as option, again use ask file ask file Save as with yourstoredfilepath See 'ask file with' in the dictionary for more information. While looking at all this, you should also read the entry for defaultFolder, specialFolderPath and the like as you are most likely going to need them. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:01 AM, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote: Hi Sarah, The situation is the same as the user who has created and saved a document but then decides to make a change to the document before creating a new document. The dialog is essentially a Save As Dialog where the user is asked whether to save the document with the same name or disregard the changes and close the document. In my current dialog the user is given the standard save untitled.txt option. Instead, I would like the user to get a dialog that says Save the file abc or disregard the changes. Here abc is the name of the saved file before changes were made to the file. Hi Sarah, The situation is the same as the user who has created and saved a document but then decides to make a change to the document before creating a new document. The dialog is a reminder to the user to save the document before closing it with the same name or with a different name. In other words, it is a Save As Dialog that you would see if you were closing a document but have not saved some changes to the document. Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Sarah Reichelt-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do. How do you open the file? Do you get the user to select a file using the answer file dialog? If so, try something like this: global gOpenDataFile answer file Select a file to open: if it is empty then exit to top put it into gOpenDataFile put URL (file: gOpenDataFile) into tFileData -- process the file data as usual Now the global variable gOpenDataFile contains the full path to the data file that was opened. You can use this later when asking to save: global gOpenDataFile ask file Save data file? with gOpenDataFile And it will offer the same folder and file name as before. Note that if you select the same file name, the OS will give you a file exists warning, whereas if you just save directly using the file name, then it won't. -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253331.html To unsubscribe from Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253404.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cannot change cursor ID
Running on OS X and will default to Shao's external if I can't sort this out... I have a non-animated gif with transparency sized to 16x16 as per the documentation and I can get the cursor to use this image as a cursor. set the cursor to 1021 Using the image name (as per the docs) simply spits out an error. Using the ID does nothing. Searching the archives seems to point out I'm not the first to have problems but I have yet to come across a posting that had a solution. I could always set the cursor to none and just have an image follow the mouse but would like to avoid that scenario if possible. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot change cursor ID
Simon- Sunday, June 13, 2010, 9:00:32 AM, you wrote: set the cursor to 1021 set the lockcursor -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot change cursor ID
Man oh man. The minute I read that post it came flooding back in a flash. I forgot a lot more than I had realized. Thanks Mark. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Simon- Sunday, June 13, 2010, 9:00:32 AM, you wrote: set the cursor to 1021 set the lockcursor -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Richard- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 2:37:05 PM, you wrote: Zipping does work from Windows, which is what I'm doing now (with a note to the user that they have to unzip it; a drag, but I can't find a way around that. Got it. On an xp box I created an OSX standalone and zipped it. I put the zip file into a custom property of a stack. I copied the stack onto a flash drive and moved it to a mac. I ran the following function on the mac. Ditto preserves the executable bit, unzip does not. on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo local tDestination local tFileName local tTempFile answer folder Where do you want to place the mac application? if it is not empty then put it into tDestination put tempname() into tFileName put binfile: tFileName into tTempFile put the uInstallFile of this stack into url tTempFile get shell(ditto -xk tFileName tDestination) delete file tFileName end if end mouseUp -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Mark Wieder wrote: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 2:37:05 PM, you wrote: Zipping does work from Windows, which is what I'm doing now (with a note to the user that they have to unzip it; a drag, but I can't find a way around that. Got it. On an xp box I created an OSX standalone and zipped it. I put the zip file into a custom property of a stack. I copied the stack onto a flash drive and moved it to a mac. I ran the following function on the mac. Ditto preserves the executable bit, unzip does not. on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo local tDestination local tFileName local tTempFile answer folder Where do you want to place the mac application? if it is not empty then put it into tDestination put tempname() into tFileName put binfile: tFileName into tTempFile put the uInstallFile of this stack into url tTempFile get shell(ditto -xk tFileName tDestination) delete file tFileName end if end mouseUp Thanks. I thought ditto was only available to Win users running the Enterprise versions with the Unix shell extras. Does XP home support it? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution
Congratulations for this, Mark ! Question 1 : How to purchase it ? You says that the webstore is not available yet (under construction ?) even if it seems to be one targeted below the product presentation. Question 2 : Do you expect to add a licensing system processor to your installer's plugin so we could use at once to pack the standalone and its final user's licensing credentials. Thanks for your explainations. Best Regards, Pierre Le 13 juin 2010 à 14:47, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Dear RunRev users, As you may have read in a recent RevUp at http://qurl.tk/cf , Economy-x-Talk has been working on an Installer Maker plugin for RunRev. This plugin helps you to create installers from your standalones. There's no longer a need for separate installer building software anymore: you can now do it all from within RunRev. The plugin currently creates installers for Windows and Mac OS X (regardless of the operating system you are currently using). You can read more about the Installer Maker plugin and obtain a license at http://qurl.tk/ce . Documentation and videos will be available soon. If you have any questions meanwhile, please send me an e-mail. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/13/2010 01:09 AM, G. Wolfgang Gaich wrote: Hello Richmond, I tested to use all installed fonts on Ubuntu 10.04 with rev. No problem. With set the textfont of fld /field/ to /fontname/ I can use all available fonts. Only the function fontnames() does not return all the fonts. But you can get a list of fontnames with put shell(fc-list) into tTempFontsList set the itemdel to : repeat for each line tL in tTempFontsList set the itemdel to : put item 1 of tL into tL2 set the itemdel to , put item 1 of tL2 cr after tFontsList end repeat delete char -1 of tFontsList If you want to install a user font then copy it into /home/user/.fonts/truetype/ and in console type: sudo fc-cache Now you can use that font with rev. hth Wolfgang Wow! Thanks so much. Hey; Alcibiades . . . take note of this one . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/13/2010 12:18 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Can you imagine finding these directions on how to use installed fonts on a Python mailing list? Its simply ridiculous. Rev needs to make the fonts work on Rev like they do on all other applications. Or stop selling the thing! There are in excess of 20k packages in the Debian repositories. None of them, none, have problems recognizing installed fonts. If you are a systems programmer and writing programs that cannot manage fonts properly in the OS for which you are writing, its time to stop. Take up carpentry, or plumbing. Um . . . I have a feeling writing vitriolic stuff like this may have a negative effect (I speak from experience). Now; Runrev have been trying to be 'all things to all men' and because of that have fallen short with Linux fonts . . . well Wolfgang's method will suffice until things get sorted out by RunRev. Oh, by-ther-way, I don't know why carpentry or plumbing should be seen as somehow inferior to computer programming: having successfully botched loads of woodwork projects and done some fairly awful plumbing in my time I will always respect Carpenters and Plumbers. At least with RunRev programming there is no risk of burst pipes; just spent about 3 weekends replacing toilets, sink U-bends and so on in our country cottage as they all bust during the freeze last winter because I had put them in so badly the first time . . . :) And the lesson of my story is: if you are as bad a plumber as Richmond; take up RunRev programming instead! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution
Thanks, Pierre! I'm still working on the website and it will take a while until everything works the way it should. I have just uploaded a new version of the Installer Maker site, which hopefully takes away the confusion caused by the previous version. You can simply click on the Buy Now button to buy a license through PayPal (optionally using your credit card). I'm open to any feature requests. Surely, I can add a simple licensing and registration system, but such systems often have to satisfy special requirements, which make customisation necessary. If you have any ideas about such a system, contact me off-list and I'd be happy to discuss it with you. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 13 jun 2010, at 21:23, Pierre Sahores wrote: Congratulations for this, Mark ! Question 1 : How to purchase it ? You says that the webstore is not available yet (under construction ?) even if it seems to be one targeted below the product presentation. Question 2 : Do you expect to add a licensing system processor to your installer's plugin so we could use at once to pack the standalone and its final user's licensing credentials. Thanks for your explainations. Best Regards, Pierre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Linux application icon
The Rev IDE gives the ability to create the icon for Mac and Windows applications but not LInux. How do I do this for a Linux application? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution
Is there a time frame for when you will have Linux support? I currently am using Fedora 10, 11 1nd 13 also the latest Ubuntu. thanks On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Dear RunRev users, As you may have read in a recent RevUp at http://qurl.tk/cf , Economy-x-Talk has been working on an Installer Maker plugin for RunRev. This plugin helps you to create installers from your standalones. There's no longer a need for separate installer building software anymore: you can now do it all from within RunRev. The plugin currently creates installers for Windows and Mac OS X (regardless of the operating system you are currently using). You can read more about the Installer Maker plugin and obtain a license at http://qurl.tk/ce . Documentation and videos will be available soon. If you have any questions meanwhile, please send me an e-mail. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Linux application icon
Hi Bill, On linux, applications does not bundle the icons like Windows or MacOS. You have to use xdg-utils tools to create desktop icons on the GNOME Desktop environment. http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/ Regards, Damien Girard NativeSoft, France. -Message d'origine- De : use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] De la part de Bill Vlahos Envoyé : dimanche 13 juin 2010 21:47 À : How to use Revolution Objet : Linux application icon The Rev IDE gives the ability to create the icon for Mac and Windows applications but not LInux. How do I do this for a Linux application? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux application icon
On 06/13/2010 10:46 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: The Rev IDE gives the ability to create the icon for Mac and Windows applications but not LInux. How do I do this for a Linux application? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution A bit of a humphy thing. You need to make a PNG image of your icon. As far as I am aware (probably Peter Alcibiades can help you here) the end-user will then have to assign the PNG as the icon to the standalone via the Properties palette in the Window manager. Of course there is always the risk that they will assign a different image as an icon - but you cannot really have freedom with restrictions, and Linux systems do allow an incredible amount oif customisation and mucking about. Out of interest; if you assign an icon to a standalone under KDE it does not usually stick should you then change to another Window manager such as GNOME or XFCE (obviously if you transfer to some sort of minimalist W-Manager that does not feature icons the question doesn't arise). Mind you, I suppose that most folks stick with one W-manager (I use GNOME on most of my machines with Ubuntu - but Mint Linux with XFCE is rather attractive). I have found no other way to do things; a right bu**er as it means that when the end-user cracks open the archive you distribute your standalone + PNG image in, they have to assign the icon; and, obviously, not all end-users will either know how to do that or be bothered to do it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Have you discuss here already that Apple changed SDK to allow cross-tools ?
And I really wonder how can UNITY game developpment platform go through... it seems that UNITY controls the apps... (I understood written in javascript) and that next revision will allow allow to adress all iphone native SDK libraries too. Good for them, but I do feel it is rather unfair for runrev!! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Have-you-discuss-here-already-that-Apple-changed-SDK-to-allow-cross-tools-tp2253457p2253736.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Using a plugin
I've R'dTFM but I still don't know how to do this. I'm using RevMedia, if that matters. I've downloaded Rinaldi's auto-save plugin and want to use it in a particular stack. Where should I put it/load it (so that it will be always available with that stack if it moves to another machine)? How do I invoke it so that it's invisible? If it's invisible, how do I set the interval? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux application icon
On 06/13/2010 11:12 PM, Damien Girard wrote: Hi Bill, On linux, applications does not bundle the icons like Windows or MacOS. You have to use xdg-utils tools to create desktop icons on the GNOME Desktop environment. http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/ Reading that made me feel both stupid and headachey! Command-line apps do that to me. The caveat is about 2 thirds of the way down the page: And now your product has a menu on any XDG compliant desktop! so; as you really don't know what sort of Window Manager and/or Desktop manager your end-user favours this doesn't help much, except that, at least, a subset of your end-users will end up with a predetermined icon. So, pop a PNG image of the icon in your distribution archive for the awkward ones . . . :) The next bit made my toes curl a bit: Changes in xdg-utils 1.0.1: * Several shell syntax issues causing failures on Ubuntu 6.10 despite the page supposedly having been updated this year, as Ubuntu users are running at 10.04 I wonder how much further than 6.10 the thing has been tested on. This would also suggest that the thing has ONLY been tested on Ubuntu; which while being the most popular desktop distro out there, is not the only one by a very long chalk indeed: who knows it may totally scr*w up on some other distro. Being pessimistic; but better that than having egg all over my face when somebody writes me a mildly abusive e-mail about my product showing up on their personal Linux designed with 'Linux fron scratch' without a special icon. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Long URL in a field
In the HC version of a stack I've converted, I have a notes text field. The field has a vertical scroll bar, but not a horizontal one (and that's what I want). In HC, a long URL will wrap so you can see the whole thing on multiple lines. In Rev, it doesn't wrap so you can't see it all (although you can still select it by dragging to the right). Can this behavior be changed to be like in HC (i.e. force a line with no spaces to wrap)? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using a plugin
Emmett Gray wrote: I've R'dTFM but I still don't know how to do this. I'm using RevMedia, if that matters. I've downloaded Rinaldi's auto-save plugin and want to use it in a particular stack. Where should I put it/load it (so that it will be always available with that stack if it moves to another machine)? How do I invoke it so that it's invisible? If it's invisible, how do I set the interval? It's been shipping as a standard Rev plugin for ages, so it should already be installed. You should be able to find it in the Development/Plugins menu. It isn't attached to a stack, it's attached to the IDE. If you want to use it in a stack, you'll need to make it a substack of your own mainstack. In that case the visibility can be set by your own scripts, and toggled by a button or menu item you create (use set the visible of stack whatever to true/false.) The plugin wasn't really meant to be that sort of tool though, it's an IDE addition. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using a plugin
J. Landman Gay wrote: Emmett Gray wrote: I've R'dTFM but I still don't know how to do this. I'm using RevMedia, if that matters. I've downloaded Rinaldi's auto-save plugin and want to use it in a particular stack. Where should I put it/load it (so that it will be always available with that stack if it moves to another machine)? How do I invoke it so that it's invisible? If it's invisible, how do I set the interval? It's been shipping as a standard Rev plugin for ages, so it should already be installed. You should be able to find it in the Development/Plugins menu. I don't believe RevMedia has a Plugins menu. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using a plugin
Richard Gaskin wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: Emmett Gray wrote: I've R'dTFM but I still don't know how to do this. I'm using RevMedia, if that matters. I've downloaded Rinaldi's auto-save plugin and want to use it in a particular stack. Where should I put it/load it (so that it will be always available with that stack if it moves to another machine)? How do I invoke it so that it's invisible? If it's invisible, how do I set the interval? It's been shipping as a standard Rev plugin for ages, so it should already be installed. You should be able to find it in the Development/Plugins menu. I don't believe RevMedia has a Plugins menu. Oops. Right. Sorry about that. I don't think that changes my attach-to-stack advice, at least, I hope not. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Have you discuss here already that Apple changed SDK to allow cross-tools ?
There is no lock-in with Unity - or so it seems to me. As I understand it it outputs source code to Xcode, which you can tweak and enhance as you wish. If that is the case then Apple need not fear platform lock-in - and so they could agree to license it - though no decision has been made yet as far as I know. I'm not sure Unity outputs source code - I have only gathered this is the case from other posts - but if it did then according to the lock-in logic Apple would have nothing to fear. This requires a different business logic to RunRev - for Unity the value would then be in the IDE and the community and not the source code of the engine. On 13 June 2010 21:26, Robert Mann r...@free.fr wrote: And I really wonder how can UNITY game developpment platform go through... it seems that UNITY controls the apps... (I understood written in javascript) and that next revision will allow allow to adress all iphone native SDK libraries too. Good for them, but I do feel it is rather unfair for runrev!! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Long URL in a field
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Emmett Gray fi...@handheldfilm.com wrote: In the HC version of a stack I've converted, I have a notes text field. The field has a vertical scroll bar, but not a horizontal one (and that's what I want). In HC, a long URL will wrap so you can see the whole thing on multiple lines. In Rev, it doesn't wrap so you can't see it all (although you can still select it by dragging to the right). Can this behavior be changed to be like in HC (i.e. force a line with no spaces to wrap)? No, wrapping on Rev only works with white space. So I wrote a routine to space out a long URL to fit a specific field: command formatFolderPath pFieldName repeat while the formattedWidth of fld pFieldName = the width of fld pFieldName -- find the last slash replace with slash cr put the text of fld pFieldName into tFolder repeat with x = the number of chars in tFolder down to 1 if char x of tFolder = slash and char x+1 of tFolder cr then put cr after char x of tFolder put tFolder into fld pFieldName exit repeat end if end repeat end repeat end formatFolderPath Then when using the file path, you just need to make sure you replace cr with empty and you get back to the original. There are obvious improvements that could be made, but for a quick fix, it works OK. -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Richard- Sunday, June 13, 2010, 12:15:06 PM, you wrote: I thought ditto was only available to Win users running the Enterprise versions with the Unix shell extras. Does XP home support it? Don't know. Or care, really. That script is for a button on the installer and runs on OSX. It's the part that takes the zipped binary out of the custom prop, uncompresses it, and makes an executable binary app. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Sunday, June 13, 2010, 12:15:06 PM, you wrote: I thought ditto was only available to Win users running the Enterprise versions with the Unix shell extras. Does XP home support it? Don't know. Or care, really. That script is for a button on the installer and runs on OSX. It's the part that takes the zipped binary out of the custom prop, uncompresses it, and makes an executable binary app. Thanks. For the Mac side I've been using chmod for that. The trick was finding a way to install a Mac-runnable app from Windows, something that continues to elude me. Oh well, the zip-file-plus-read-me has sufficed well enough... -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Long URL in a field
Just to throw out another idea... For my RSS app I wrote a routine that would truncate a link with ... when it would extend beyond the length of a field and set the linkText of the chunk to the full URL so it'd still work. Jeff M. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Emmett Gray fi...@handheldfilm.com wrote: In the HC version of a stack I've converted, I have a notes text field. The field has a vertical scroll bar, but not a horizontal one (and that's what I want). In HC, a long URL will wrap so you can see the whole thing on multiple lines. In Rev, it doesn't wrap so you can't see it all (although you can still select it by dragging to the right). Can this behavior be changed to be like in HC (i.e. force a line with no spaces to wrap)? No, wrapping on Rev only works with white space. So I wrote a routine to space out a long URL to fit a specific field: command formatFolderPath pFieldName repeat while the formattedWidth of fld pFieldName = the width of fld pFieldName -- find the last slash replace with slash cr put the text of fld pFieldName into tFolder repeat with x = the number of chars in tFolder down to 1 if char x of tFolder = slash and char x+1 of tFolder cr then put cr after char x of tFolder put tFolder into fld pFieldName exit repeat end if end repeat end repeat end formatFolderPath Then when using the file path, you just need to make sure you replace cr with empty and you get back to the original. There are obvious improvements that could be made, but for a quick fix, it works OK. -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Long URL in a field
Emmett Gray wrote: In the HC version of a stack I've converted, I have a notes text field. The field has a vertical scroll bar, but not a horizontal one (and that's what I want). In HC, a long URL will wrap so you can see the whole thing on multiple lines. In Rev, it doesn't wrap so you can't see it all (although you can still select it by dragging to the right). Can this behavior be changed to be like in HC (i.e. force a line with no spaces to wrap)? As Sarah said, Rev won't wrap these lines. If your field has no tab stops in it, you can use a cheat. Set the tabstops of the field to 1. Then use this in your handler: replace slash with slashtab in fld 1 Visually it looks almost right, you have to really squint to see those 1-character tabs. This way the engine will wrap the line automatically. If you only want to wrap a single line in the field, just use something like: replace slash with slashtab in line x of fld 1 If you need to use the URL for something, be sure to replace tab with empty in the field contents before using it for anything: get line x of fld 1 replace tab with empty in it launch url it -- or whatever If you need real, hard-coded carriage returns or you can't set the tabstops to 1, this handler works on longer URLs that need to wrap over more than 2 lines. (Sarah's works fine on 2-line wraps.) on wrapField pFld -- pass name or number set the itemdel to slash put the width of fld pFld - (the leftmargin of fld pFld) - (the \ rightmargin of fld pFld) into tWidth put 1 into x repeat until the formattedwidth of fld pFld = tWidth if the formattedwidth of item 1 to x of fld pFld tWidth then put item 1 to x-1 of fld pFld slash cr after tText delete item 1 to x-1 of fld pFld put 1 into x else add 1 to x end if end repeat put tText fld pFld into fld pFld end wrapField -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Long URL in a field
J. Landman Gay wrote: If you need real, hard-coded carriage returns or you can't set the tabstops to 1, this handler works on longer URLs that need to wrap over more than 2 lines. Well, I gave you an old handler for that -- and I just found a note to myself that it was deprecated. Here's a better way to add hard carriage returns, it's all built-in: on wrapField pFld replace slash with slashspace in fld pFld put the formattedText of fld pFld into fld pFld replace space with empty in fld pFld end wrapField I should have double-checked before writing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
