Re: more crashes with Rev 3.5 and above?
On 7/7/10 6:16 PM, Curry Kenworthy wrote: > Since moving beyond 3.0, his customers seem to be experiencing > a lot more "app unexpectedly quit" crashes. I've had some crashes and lock-ups with Rev 4.0 Mac, not sure what all patterns. (Rev 4.0 Win is rock-solid.) If you have problems for that standalone you might go back to the 3.0 or 3.5 engine temporarily, then move back up at the next Rev update. File format compatibility between versions is great, isn't it! Yes indeed! Phil Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy -- WordLib: Import MS Word and OpenOffice documents http://curryk.com/wordlib.html Need custom software development or RunRev help? http://curryk.com/consulting/ -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more crashes with Rev 3.5 and above?
> Since moving beyond 3.0, his customers seem to be experiencing > a lot more "app unexpectedly quit" crashes. I've had some crashes and lock-ups with Rev 4.0 Mac, not sure what all patterns. (Rev 4.0 Win is rock-solid.) If you have problems for that standalone you might go back to the 3.0 or 3.5 engine temporarily, then move back up at the next Rev update. File format compatibility between versions is great, isn't it! Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy -- WordLib: Import MS Word and OpenOffice documents http://curryk.com/wordlib.html Need custom software development or RunRev help? http://curryk.com/consulting/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
more crashes with Rev 3.5 and above?
Hi folks, I'm trying to understand the experience one client is having. We moved his Mac-only standalone app from the 3.0 engine to 3.5, then a couple of weeks later to 4.0. Since moving beyond 3.0, his customers seem to be experiencing a lot more "app unexpectedly quit" crashes. Is it just my perception, or is that your experience too? If you have the same increase in crashes, have you found any particular commands or command sequences that either increase or decrease the crash frequency? Or has your crash rate remained unchanged since 3.0? When the problem happens, it's normally during a file read. Like this: from crash log -- Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x0916 __memcpy + 374 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9848de4f fread + 132 2 ...ss.app.rev 0x001405df MCS_read(void*, unsigned int, unsigned int&, IO_header*) + 111 3 ...ss.app.rev 0x001bab88 MCVariableArray::loadkeys(IO_header*, bool) + 744 4 ...ss.app.rev 0x00112eb8 MCObject::load(IO_header*, char const*) + 1880 5 ...ss.app.rev 0x001a15e0 MCStack::load(IO_header*, char const*, unsigned char) + 64 6 ...ss.app.rev 0x00072a0c MCDispatch::readfile(char const*, char const*, IO_header*&, MCStack*&, bool) + 1260 7 ...ss.app.rev 0x00072ed9 MCDispatch::loadfile(char const*, MCStack*&) + 585 8 ...ss.app.rev 0x00073247 MCDispatch::findstackname(MCString const&) + 343 9 ...ss.app.rev 0x00029677 MCChunk::getobj(MCExecPoint&, MCObject*&, unsigned int&, unsigned char) + 2103 end of crash log -- But the same files are most often read without a problem. This makes me think there's something environmental going on, but that's a guess. Thanks for any responses. -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
LIbationator. Has connotations of religion, and forceful intoxication. Or conversly, to "Arnold the beer" means to terminate it with extreme prejudice. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: > Hi Andre, > > Am 07.07.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Andre Garzia: > >> I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? > > Probably a libeerator :-) > > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > http://www.major-k.de > kl...@major.on-rev.com > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On Jul 7, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case I always thought the New Hampshire state motto had a rather sinister subtext: "Live free or die!" (getting the double-entendre requires that you know that NH prides itself on having very low taxes, and thus very limited social services) -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
¡El mero Simon Bolivar de la Revolución escocés... en Brazil! On Jul 7, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A problem with this prefers script...
I want to thank everyone for their help! I have to go back and review information on file management. For others who may have this same question or problem, here is my script for loading prefs: on loadPrefs pFilename local tPrefs -- put url ("binfile:" & pFilename) into tPrefs IF the platform is "MacOS" then put url ("binfile:" & specialFolderPath("preferences") & "/" & "504_prefs") into tPrefs end if IF the platform is "win32" then put url ("binfile:" & specialFolderPath(26) & "/" & "504_prefs") into tPrefs end if and here is my script for saving my prefs file: IF the platform is "MacOS" then put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url ("binfile:" & specialFolderPath("preferences") & "/" & "504_prefs") end if IF the platform is "win32" then put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url ("binfile:" & specialFolderPath(26) & "/" & "504_prefs") end if Again, thanks to everyone for their help! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/A-problem-with-this-prefers-script-tp2281250p2281473.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A problem with this prefers script...
Hi Charles, > Klaus, > > Thank! I understand now that I left out the name of the file. But what is the > suffix at the end of "your_prefs_file.prf"? just a fancy suffix ("prf" = abbr. for preferences and is a common suffix on Windows systems for pref files :-) Will of course work without it! > Charles Szasz > csz...@mac.com Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A problem with this prefers script...
Klaus, Thank! I understand now that I left out the name of the file. But what is the suffix at the end of "your_prefs_file.prf"? Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Jul 7, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Klaus on-rev [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: > Hi Charles, > > > > > I am trying to set up a preference file. I have two stacks - a splash stack > > and an app stack. The Prefs stack is a substack of the app stack and is not > > a separate stack I trying to use the url and binfile with specialfolder to > > set up my preference file in the appropriate place for windows > > (specialFolderPath(26) ) and mac (specialFolderPath("preferences")). > > These functions will only return a path to a FOLDER, > as the name "specialFOLDERpath" suggests! > You have to provide a filename, too! > > Like: > ... > specialFolderPath(26) & "/" & "your_prefs_file.prf" > ... > > > > > I am getting an error message for > > ... > > See above "binfile:..." requires a filename but you only supply a FOLDER. > > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > http://www.major-k.de > [hidden email] > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [hidden email] > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > View message @ > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/A-problem-with-this-prefers-script-tp2281250p2281266.html > > To unsubscribe from A problem with this prefers script..., click here. > -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/A-problem-with-this-prefers-script-tp2281250p2281445.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On 07/07/2010 09:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 10:40:56 AM, you wrote: Now, once one moves away from the free software model we are in different territory; and I don't think the 2 really overlap. Chris Anderson has some thought-provoking things to say about the concept of "free", including several use-case models where free makes sound profitable business sense in a free-market (no pun intended) (all right...actually I couldn't resist it) economy. https://www.amazon.com/Free-Future-Radical-Chris-Anderson/dp/1401322905 Well, as a free-market economy doesn't really exist anywhere (the successful players in the market bending over backwards to restrict competition) that is probably rather theoretical. A male tiger coming upon a female tiger with cubs, will kill the cubs so as to bring the female into oestrus so he can mate with her and secure his own genetic line. Mind you when I try to visualise the likes of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates as male tigers I split my sides laughing! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 10:40:56 AM, you wrote: > Now, once one moves away from the free software model we are in > different territory; > and I don't think the 2 really overlap. Chris Anderson has some thought-provoking things to say about the concept of "free", including several use-case models where free makes sound profitable business sense in a free-market (no pun intended) (all right...actually I couldn't resist it) economy. https://www.amazon.com/Free-Future-Radical-Chris-Anderson/dp/1401322905 -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing Externals in Pascal?
On 07/07/2010 08:56 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Whoa! Pascal still lives?? Maybe I am not so old after all. Bob Sorry to dash your illusions; I studied PASCAL 5 in 1985; Thee and Me are alive, and so is PASCAL; neither Thee, not Me, nor PASCAL are as young as we were in 1985. Hey; anybody remember MINIFORTRAN? I remember when I was visiting Mum and Dad at New Year seeing my PASCAL final project lurking in the attic; maybe I should get it out and 'give it a whirl'. Mind you typing the whole thing into the machine will be a real labour of love. What I do remember is: 1. It was a program for making a concordance of a text. [This was conceived because I was sent 'over' from the Philosophy department to the Maths dept. for computer programming. The lecturers all made loud and public fun of the "wierdo in the kilt from the Philosophy dept" and said that ONLY mathematicians could program; and that PASCAL, being a serious, hairy-chested sort of computer language, could only deal with crunching numbers - hence my determination to crunch text]. 2. A long-suffering 'slave' in the computer building (full of enormous tape drives that went "whirr, whirr") typed in an English translation of Leibniz's 'Monadologie'. 3. The program crashed the University computer (hurrah, hurrah - let's hear it for Mathewson). I will probably be able to run it on a Pentium II I have, running FreeDOS with the GEM GUI (lovely job) and some sort of cheapo PASCAL - in all likelihood the 32 MB RAM is more than the University of Durham had in 1985. 4. An incredibly seedy man who was my computer supervisor almost tied himself in knots having to admit that my program was the best of the 100 students in the year. Extra fun was had because I asked the head of Philosophy to accompany me to the meeting so that I could make a formal complaint about departmental bullying towards me because I was an Arts student. About once every 5 years I go back to Durham to visit . . . . . . the pubs where I did most of my studying; and everytime I pass the building that housed the VAX (I wonder what is in there now?) I blow it a kiss - Wow I wish my life now was as much fun as when I was an undergraduate ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
> > > > > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? > > > > Probably a libeerator :-) > > > > > http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/facepalm.jpg > > ;-) > actually, I have a star trek costume exactly like that... will exercise my piccard facepalm look... > > Jeff M. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: > Hi Andre, > > Am 07.07.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Andre Garzia: > > > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? > > Probably a libeerator :-) > > http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/facepalm.jpg ;-) Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
Hi Andre, Am 07.07.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Andre Garzia: > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? Probably a libeerator :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Mmm liberated beer. > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mark Wieder > wrote: > > René- > > > > Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: > > > >> In French we have 2 words for "free" > >> free = gratuit (no money !) > >> free = libre (open ?) > >> ;-) > > > > Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. > > But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. You can't, > > for example, free beer, unless you're liberating it from its > > container and pouring a round for the room. > > > > -- > > -Mark Wieder > > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > > > ___ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing Externals in Pascal?
The 2010 version of Delphi is a killer development environment and the 2011 version will have cross-compile for OS X. You can tell its what I do a lot of work in! Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Whoa! Pascal still lives?? Maybe I am not so old after all. > > Bob > > > On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > > Peter- > > > > Monday, July 5, 2010, 4:59:11 PM, you wrote: > > > >> Free Pascal. At the moment, I am testing calling a dynamic load > >> library written in Free Pascal from Rebol (a language written in C) > >> using C calling conventions. > > > > Keep us posted on your progress - that's a promising start. > > > > -- > > -Mark Wieder > > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > > > ___ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
In America, they are kind of related. I "open" (libre) my wallet, see there's no money there, so whatever I get had better be "free" (gratuit). Bob On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:28 AM, René Micout wrote: > In French we have 2 words for "free" > free = gratuit (no money !) > free = libre (open ?) > ;-) > > Le 7 juil. 2010 à 18:20, Mark Wieder a écrit : > >> Richmond- >> >> Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: >> >>> I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. >> >> Er... ... but aren't you the one who's always extolling the >> virtues of *free* software? >> >> -- >> -Mark Wieder >> mwie...@ahsoftware.net >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing Externals in Pascal?
Whoa! Pascal still lives?? Maybe I am not so old after all. Bob On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Peter- > > Monday, July 5, 2010, 4:59:11 PM, you wrote: > >> Free Pascal. At the moment, I am testing calling a dynamic load >> library written in Free Pascal from Rebol (a language written in C) >> using C calling conventions. > > Keep us posted on your progress - that's a promising start. > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Data Grid] Infinite loop with DG Table
Bonjour André! :) Thanks for your confirmation! ;) Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc 2010/7/7 Andre.Bisseret > > Le 6 juil. 10 à 21:27, zryip theSlug a écrit : > > > Dear List and especially DG users, >> >> Could someone confirm this infinite loop: >> >> 1) Save your current work >> 2) Create a DG Table in a stack >> 3) Create 2 or 3 columns >> 4) Add 3 lines in the content tab of your DG >> 5) Open your "message watcher" >> 6) With the mouse, set your DG height to show only 1 or 2 lines >> 7) In the columns tab, hide all the columns >> >> What's happens for you in the message watcher? >> >> > Bonjour, > I confirm that I got an infinite loop (not possible to read what messages > were repeated!). > I had to force to quit Rev. > > Best regards from Grenoble > > André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A problem with this prefers script...
Hi Charles, > > I am trying to set up a preference file. I have two stacks - a splash stack > and an app stack. The Prefs stack is a substack of the app stack and is not > a separate stack I trying to use the url and binfile with specialfolder to > set up my preference file in the appropriate place for windows > (specialFolderPath(26) ) and mac (specialFolderPath("preferences")). These functions will only return a path to a FOLDER, as the name "specialFOLDERpath" suggests! You have to provide a filename, too! Like: ... specialFolderPath(26) & "/" & "your_prefs_file.prf" ... > > I am getting an error message for > ... See above "binfile:..." requires a filename but you only supply a FOLDER. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A problem with this prefers script...
charles61- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 10:35:29 AM, you wrote: > put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url ("binfile:" & > specialFolderPath("preferences")) --> I added this to save the prefs file You need a filename as well as the path: specialFolderPath("preferences") & "/" & tFileName -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On 07/07/2010 07:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. Er.. but aren't you the one who's always extolling the virtues of *free* software? Yes; I do extoll the virtues of free software; and I have released some free software myself - it comes "as is". I was only able to release that because I do not depend on software sales for my bread and cheese. Now, once one moves away from the free software model we are in different territory; and I don't think the 2 really overlap. I will be releasing a commercial variant of my free software in mid to late August; mainly because the cost of bread and cheese is going up faster than my non-software income . . . :) And, to tell the truth, because I have had a 34 year fantasy that one day I might be a "real" computer programmer who lives off his work. If we examine RunRev; its model starts with a free version, revMedia, which is supported by 2 commercial variants of the same thing - it is marvellous insofar as everybody can "come to the table"; but those who want a glass of wine and a side-dish have to pay. As the glass of wine and so on is really considerably more than revMedia they have to pay quite a lot. Of course there is NO SUCH THING as free software; all people who write software have to eat; there are, however, various ways in which they can get their food. In my own case my 'free' software is 'paid for' by the parents who send their children to my EFL school (if only they knew . . .). As soon as I see software that is not 'free' (i.e. the end-user is expected to pay for something) I suspect that the programmer may be expecting to live fully or partly from software revenues. If that is so, and the cost of bread-and-cheese is anything like what it is in Bulgaria they are going to have to shift a lot of units at $49 a pop. OR; some people have done a "quick-n-dirty" to see if 'the fish will bite', and if so, they can invest considerably more time and effort in 'version 2' for which they will charge considerably more money. -- Pretentious or what? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A problem with this prefers script...
I am trying to set up a preference file. I have two stacks - a splash stack and an app stack. The Prefs stack is a substack of the app stack and is not a separate stack I trying to use the url and binfile with specialfolder to set up my preference file in the appropriate place for windows (specialFolderPath(26) ) and mac (specialFolderPath("preferences")). I am getting an error message for put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs in the following script for the Prefs stack when I select Preferences from the menu of my app during the run mode: on preOpenStack set the loc of me to the loc of stack "S504" loadPrefs end preOpenStack on closeStack saveprefs end closeStack on loadPrefs pFilename local tPrefs IF the platform is "MacOS" > I added this to retrieve the prefs file for both Mac and Windows then put url ("binfile:" & specialFolderPath("preferences")) into tPrefs end if IF the platform is "win32" then put url ("binfile:" & specialFolderPath(26)) into tPrefs end if put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs > This is being being flagged when I select Prefs from the menu in the run mode. -- Fill in all prefs data... put tPrefs["Myschool"] into field "MySchool" put tPrefs["Myschool"] into field "school system" of card "referral" of stack "S504" put tPrefs["agent"] into field "agent" put tPrefs["agent"] into field "agent" of card "letter" of stack "S504" put tPrefs["agent"] into field "agent" of card "adult letter" of stack "S504" put tPrefs["contact"] into field "contact" put tPrefs["contact"] into field "contact" of card "letter" of stack "S504" put tPrefs["contact"] into field "contact" of card "adult letter" of stack "S S504" put tPrefs["email"] into field "email" put tPrefs["email"] into field "email" of card "letter" of stack "S504" put tPrefs["email"] into field "email" of card "adult letter" of stack "S504" end loadPrefs on savePrefs pFilename local tPrefs --fill in all of my data put field "mySchool" into tPrefs["school name"] put field "agent" into tPrefs["agent"] put field "contact" into tPrefs["contact"] put field "email" into tPrefs["email"] IF the platform is "MacOS" then put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url ("binfile:" & specialFolderPath("preferences")) --> I added this to save the prefs file for Mac end if IF the platform is "win32" then put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url ("binfile:" & specialFolderPath(26)) ---> I added this to save the prefs file for Windows end if end savePrefs I would appreciate any help I can get on this script! This is my first endeavor with using an array, binfile and specialFolderpath! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/A-problem-with-this-prefers-script-tp2281250p2281250.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
> Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. > But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. > You can't, for example, free beer, unless you're liberating > it from its container and pouring a round for the room. The "free as in beer" description always bothered me - after all, it can only be used once ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
Mmm liberated beer. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > René- > > Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: > >> In French we have 2 words for "free" >> free = gratuit (no money !) >> free = libre (open ?) >> ;-) > > Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. > But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. You can't, > for example, free beer, unless you're liberating it from its > container and pouring a round for the room. > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
René- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: > In French we have 2 words for "free" > free = gratuit (no money !) > free = libre (open ?) > ;-) Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. You can't, for example, free beer, unless you're liberating it from its container and pouring a round for the room. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Le 7 juil. 2010 à 18:20, Mark Wieder a écrit : > Richmond- > > Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: > >> I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. > > Er... ... but aren't you the one who's always extolling the > virtues of *free* software? > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing Externals in Pascal?
Peter- Monday, July 5, 2010, 4:59:11 PM, you wrote: > Free Pascal. At the moment, I am testing calling a dynamic load > library written in Free Pascal from Rebol (a language written in C) > using C calling conventions. Keep us posted on your progress - that's a promising start. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Having strange problem with the 'clone' command
Richard- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 6:54:17 AM, you wrote: > I suspect that locking messages before the loop will prevent the IDE > from intercepting the newGraphic message which it seems to be using to > alter the new objects. Brilliant! That solved a related problem that I didn't even know I had... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: > I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. Er... ... but aren't you the one who's always extolling the virtues of *free* software? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Having strange problem with the 'clone' command
On 07/07/2010 15:49, J. Landman Gay wrote: Björnke von Gierke wrote: You're running into the settings of the Rev IDE, these things will not apply in a standalone. Relevant bug: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3290 Interesting, I'm glad you knew about it. If the IDE is interfering with the dimensions, would it work to lock messages, reset the template object, and then clone? Seems like that might avoid IDE interference. Thanks everyone. That was indeed the problem, and "lock messages" is a good cure. Thanks again -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On 07/07/2010 07:08 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: You program in C/C++ and it converts it to Objective-C and uploads it to the app store under the companies iphone dev license. From what I have read, the code it generates is very very sloppy and slow. I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
You program in C/C++ and it converts it to Objective-C and uploads it to the app store under the companies iphone dev license. From what I have read, the code it generates is very very sloppy and slow. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-Window-App-allows-programming-for-iPhone-tp2280996p2281129.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
Hi, Clearly, DragonFireSDK didn't get approval from Apple. If you want to use your app on your iPhone, you have to upload it to a server, where it will be compiled with XCode. The website says you can distribute your app as if it were created on a Mac, but it isn't clear to me whether you can actually sell your app in the iTunes store (an "App Store" is mentioned). If DragonFireSDK had received approval, then the workaround and vague statements on the website wouldn't be necessary. I admire their courage :-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce On 7 Jul 2010, at 15:38, charles61 wrote: I just came across a link to a new Windows program, DragonFireSDK, that allows Windows users to program for the iPhone without using Apple's SDK. I believe the program sells for $49. I went to the site last night but did not write down the details. I tried to go to the site a moment ago to confirm the price but I could not access it. I guess the site may be getting a lot of hits today! DragonFireSDK includes a cross-platform library and an iPhone simulator. The program uses C/C++ language. Here is the link: http://www.dragonfiresdk.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
It's been around since November at least, but information about it is *very* sparse. I'd be wary, myself. Ian On 7 Jul 2010, at 15:38, charles61 wrote: > > I just came across a link to a new Windows program, DragonFireSDK, that > allows Windows users to program for the iPhone without using Apple's SDK. I > believe the program sells for $49. I went to the site last night but did not > write down the details. I tried to go to the site a moment ago to confirm > the price but I could not access it. I guess the site may be getting a lot > of hits today! > DragonFireSDK includes a cross-platform library and an iPhone simulator. The > program uses C/C++ language. Here is the link: http://www.dragonfiresdk.com/ > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-Window-App-allows-programming-for-iPhone-tp2280996p2280996.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Having strange problem with the 'clone' command
Björnke von Gierke wrote: You're running into the settings of the Rev IDE, these things will not apply in a standalone. Relevant bug: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3290 Interesting, I'm glad you knew about it. If the IDE is interfering with the dimensions, would it work to lock messages, reset the template object, and then clone? Seems like that might avoid IDE interference. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
I just came across a link to a new Windows program, DragonFireSDK, that allows Windows users to program for the iPhone without using Apple's SDK. I believe the program sells for $49. I went to the site last night but did not write down the details. I tried to go to the site a moment ago to confirm the price but I could not access it. I guess the site may be getting a lot of hits today! DragonFireSDK includes a cross-platform library and an iPhone simulator. The program uses C/C++ language. Here is the link: http://www.dragonfiresdk.com/ -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-Window-App-allows-programming-for-iPhone-tp2280996p2280996.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Having strange problem with the 'clone' command
Alex Tweedly wrote: I've created one (called, with great imagination :), "R1") which has all the correct characteristics, including a width and height of 8 But when I clone it to create my other shapes, the widths and heights all come out to 120 instead of 8. I can fix this up (as I do in the following code), but I don't understand why that would be necessary (or what other properties might be different from what I expect). I suspect that locking messages before the loop will prevent the IDE from intercepting the newGraphic message which it seems to be using to alter the new objects. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Having strange problem with the 'clone' command
You're running into the settings of the Rev IDE, these things will not apply in a standalone. Relevant bug: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3290 -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL "http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev"; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What about the new language from Apple?
Andre...whole endeavor rumored to be very Ruby-esque. I think they are like Ruby blocks. Best, Jerry Daniels Join the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Folks, > > I wearing my slashdot hat now, so that means I did not read the article but > will indeed ask questions. Are those blocks something like ruby blocks or > closures? any clue? > > Andre > > > > 2010/7/6 François Chaplais > >> a good start is >> http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars/9 >> If I understand well, its about finer granularity and management of >> concurrent process. To allow, this, objective-c has be extended with new >> entities called blocks. Blocks have a very small footprint by comparison to >> threads, so actually it is easer to program because you use them extensively >> with almost no worry. >> Le 7 juil. 2010 à 01:46, JosepM a écrit : >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I read some post about a new language that will be replace the >> Objective-c >>> called xLang. >>> >>> Any idea? This can affect the next releases of Rev? >>> >>> http://9to5mac.com/node/19165 >>> >>> >>> We’re leaving this one open to the floor for comment, but would like to >> note >>> that operating systems must also grow, and development environments must >>> continue to re-invent themselves as rationale to give this one air time, >> but >>> there's a rumor Apple's developing a new dev language to succeed >>> Objective-C... >>> DF reports via Michael Tsai one Jesper, who writes: >>> >>> “After watching the eminently early and freely available WWDC 2010 >> session >>> videos, I think my scales have finally tipped. It is my belief that Apple >> is >>> definitely working on a new language to surpass Objective-C as their >>> intended, primary, publicly recommended programming language, which I >> will >>> call “xlang”.” >>> >>> Clang, according to Wikipedia, is a compiler front end for the C, C++, >> and >>> Objective-C programming languages. It uses the Low Level Virtual Machine >>> (LLVM) as its back end. Its goal is to offer a replacement to the GNU >>> Compiler Collection (GCC). Development is sponsored by Apple, and the >> source >>> code is licensed using a BSD-like open-source license. >>> >>> This could be part of the company’s plans as developers seem to be >> beginning >>> to wax lyrical on how Objective-C may need tweaking. >>> >>> Your thoughts? >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/What-about-the-new-language-from-Apple-tp2280329p2280329.html >>> Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What about the new language from Apple?
Folks, I wearing my slashdot hat now, so that means I did not read the article but will indeed ask questions. Are those blocks something like ruby blocks or closures? any clue? Andre 2010/7/6 François Chaplais > a good start is > http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars/9 > If I understand well, its about finer granularity and management of > concurrent process. To allow, this, objective-c has be extended with new > entities called blocks. Blocks have a very small footprint by comparison to > threads, so actually it is easer to program because you use them extensively > with almost no worry. > Le 7 juil. 2010 à 01:46, JosepM a écrit : > > > > > Hi, > > > > I read some post about a new language that will be replace the > Objective-c > > called xLang. > > > > Any idea? This can affect the next releases of Rev? > > > > http://9to5mac.com/node/19165 > > > > > > We’re leaving this one open to the floor for comment, but would like to > note > > that operating systems must also grow, and development environments must > > continue to re-invent themselves as rationale to give this one air time, > but > > there's a rumor Apple's developing a new dev language to succeed > > Objective-C... > > DF reports via Michael Tsai one Jesper, who writes: > > > > “After watching the eminently early and freely available WWDC 2010 > session > > videos, I think my scales have finally tipped. It is my belief that Apple > is > > definitely working on a new language to surpass Objective-C as their > > intended, primary, publicly recommended programming language, which I > will > > call “xlang”.” > > > > Clang, according to Wikipedia, is a compiler front end for the C, C++, > and > > Objective-C programming languages. It uses the Low Level Virtual Machine > > (LLVM) as its back end. Its goal is to offer a replacement to the GNU > > Compiler Collection (GCC). Development is sponsored by Apple, and the > source > > code is licensed using a BSD-like open-source license. > > > > This could be part of the company’s plans as developers seem to be > beginning > > to wax lyrical on how Objective-C may need tweaking. > > > > Your thoughts? > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/What-about-the-new-language-from-Apple-tp2280329p2280329.html > > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Data Grid] Infinite loop with DG Table
Le 6 juil. 10 à 21:27, zryip theSlug a écrit : Dear List and especially DG users, Could someone confirm this infinite loop: 1) Save your current work 2) Create a DG Table in a stack 3) Create 2 or 3 columns 4) Add 3 lines in the content tab of your DG 5) Open your "message watcher" 6) With the mouse, set your DG height to show only 1 or 2 lines 7) In the columns tab, hide all the columns What's happens for you in the message watcher? Bonjour, I confirm that I got an infinite loop (not possible to read what messages were repeated!). I had to force to quit Rev. Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution