Re: [OT] NeoOffice
Just a small contribution. We have one Mac user in our office here who has both MS Office and NeoOffice installed. They find they are using NeoOffice more than MS Office now, with no compatibility issues and are sharing doc's and xls's with the rest of the office and with clients just fine. I think they are using NeoOffice more as they find it is more logical and intuitive once you get used to it. They also find they are doing a lot of their internal work using NeoOffice's native file formats too, as the file sizes are much smaller. Cheers, -- Rishi Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Non-Motif Linux Interface? - SOLVED!
On Friday 27 April 2007 05:22, Bill Marriott wrote: - My Revolution folder is on the desktop. I downloaded the tar.gz file there and simply extracted. I double-click revolution.x86 to run it. - I would put it into /opt, if that's where it's supposed to be, but Ubuntu tells me I don't have permission to do that. It's owned by root. What's the proper place to put applications, anyway? - I'd log in as root, but I don't know the password, and as far as I remember, it never asked me to set one up for root. Probably just as well since I would presumably wreak utter havoc if I could, eh? Well Bill, sooner or later if you work with Linux you will need to do things as root. You must have created a root account during installation, this is mandatory except on many of the live CD type distributions. On live CDs the documentation often tells you what the root login password is or else you use sudo on the command line to get root to do your bidding. (e.g. sudo konqueror to open your web browser/file manager under KDE). Not sure if putting things in /opt will solve it anyway, but worth a try. Cheers, -- Rishi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Non-Motif Linux Interface? - SOLVED!
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 15:59, Ken Ray wrote: Well yes, KDE would be using QT not GTK. A KDE only install may not have the GTK libraries at all, as far as I have seen. So what would the filenames be that I should point Rev's 'revolution.sh' exports to? I'm not sure. You could try /usr/lib/qt4/* if you have it. I'm really not sure how Rev handles KDE stuff, if at all. Sorry... -- Rishi Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Non-Motif Linux Interface?
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 05:52, Ken Ray wrote: No, it's not the colors and titlebar decorations that I'm talking about - those change - it's the internal controls (buttons, fields, menus, etc.). I've been working on RevZilla 2.1 (which is almost ready to be released, btw), and Mark and I were testing it under Kubuntu. Here's a page that shows the difference between his system and mine - perhaps you can answer why mine looks Motif and his doesn't? http://www.sonsothunder.com/LinuxSample.htm It looks like you both have the same Window Decorations, but you are using different Widget Styles. This could have been changed by one or the other of you by changing the Syle in the KDE Theme Manager or by changing Style under Appearance and Themes area in the Control Center. Have you checked if there are differences in how each of your native KDE applications look? E.g. right click on desktop, choose Configure Desktop and compare screen shots of how your Configure - KDesktop applications look. Worth a try. I can see what you are worried about... Marks screen looks _much_ nicer!!! ;) -- Rishi Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Non-Motif Linux Interface? - SOLVED!
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 13:48, Ken Ray wrote: You can bet this is going on my Tips page! I'm going to check on Kubuntu, but I'll bet it's the same issue there as well... Well, *sort of*... on Kubuntu, there *is* a libgobject in /usr/lib, but there is NOT a libgdk or libgtk... are these supposed to be there? Or is there some other set of libraries that KDE uses vs. Gnome's libgdk/libgtk? Well yes, KDE would be using QT not GTK. A KDE only install may not have the GTK libraries at all, as far as I have seen. -- Rishi Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Non-Motif Linux Interface? - SOLVED!
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 14:12, J. Landman Gay wrote: Is this something the team should know about for the next Linux build? He He! It is like waiting for Christmas! ;) -- Rishi Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Non-Motif Linux Interface? - SOLVED!
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 13:30, Ken Ray wrote: It turns out that the 'revolution.sh' file included an 'export' for GDK_PATH and GTK_PATH, but NOT GOBJECT_PATH... and after adding that in, I got the current Ubuntu widget theme! Getting back to the differences between your widgets and Marks, does this mean that Marks 'revolution.sh' file was different to yours? Otherwise, why does your system need the GOBJECT_PATH but Marks doesn't? Just curious. -- Rishi Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Default button placement in Linux GUIs
User interface guidelines in Linux. Wow, what a concept! ;) As a long time Linux user it is heartening to hear you talk of such lofty things! As a software user I would be very greatful to notice you had (magically) made everything so easy to use. Linux is heading in the right direction here, its just not there yet. You might have to choose an interface guidline you think has more merit and stick with that for now. Cheers, Rishi. On Wednesday 18 April 2007 02:12, Richard Gaskin wrote: An age-old challenge in making multi-platform apps is handling the placement of the default button in dialogs. But then we come to Linux: The Gnome HIG suggests using Apple's approach, with the confirmation control on the right. But the KDE HIG suggests using the Windows approach with the opposite layout. Does the Rev engine provide a way to determine which window manager it's running under in Linux? If not, how can we reconcile this issue if we want to deploy our apps to either window manager? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux installaton
On Saturday 07 April 2007 02:27, Richard Gaskin wrote: My understanding is that the various window managers for Linux each have their own mechanisms for these, and that they aren't the same. Is that correct? Yep, afraid so... BUT there is the Linux Standard Base: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/LSB however this is still filtering through to actual implementation... Is there a single site you could recommend to get familiar with how to write installers for Linux that provide a smooth user experience? RPM is a very widely used software package delivery system. http://www.rpm.org/ -- Rishi -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux installation
On Saturday 07 April 2007 09:14, Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm aiming to write my own. So what I'm looking for is info on what each of the window managers (KDE, Gnome -- other popular ones?) requires for an app to: - Set up document file type associations - Assign icons for the app and the documents - Add shortcuts to the Start menu KDE filesystem hierarchy: http://techbase.kde.org/SysAdmin/KDE_Filesystem_Hierarchy KDE development tutorials: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials Freedesktop.org Specifications: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications (icons, menus applinks etc) The KDE Kmenu follows this specification: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html A bunch of links on standards and documentation here: http://vlug.org/linux/links/Documentation/Standards/index.html -- Rishi -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Do you Ubuntu?
Occasional use of Ubuntu and Kubuntu (you really need things to work with both Gnome and KDE desktops). Mainly SuSE with KDE as our standard environment here. Agree though, that Ubuntu is making lots of waves for all the right reasons. Cheers, Rishi. On Tuesday 20 March 2007 09:35, Lynn Fredricks wrote: Hello all, Im wearing my Paradigma hat here (hey, if you can to RevCon 2005 you could have had one too!) but I also have my Runtime kilt handy. It seems that, in the span of the last two years, Ubuntu has come out of nowhere to achieve an unprecidented popularity. Paradigma is finalizing V4REV Linux and well, Linux you know is something on the minds of folks at Runtime too. Of you running on Linux, how many are using Rev with Ubuntu? Knowing the level of interest in Ubuntu usage would be helpful for both companies. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution Ltd http://www.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Potential disaster for Rev/Linux pendrive apps
On Thursday 08 March 2007 04:43, Bob Warren wrote: As you can see, executable permission has now become independent of the user. If you try changing this option when the program is on the pendrive itself, it won't work. I tried copying the program to the Desktop and altering the executable permission there. It works. But if you copy the program back to the pendrive, the executable permission is removed. It looks like they are trying to improve security for removable drives... shame they are crippling such important functionality! I can't imagine that they would do this without some way for the user to manually fix this for a program they specifically want to run. Make lots of noise on the ubuntu forums and see if you can get an answer. I don't know how to alter the permissions of Rev progs on pendrives from the terminal. As root user on terminal you could try: chmod +x /media/KINGSTON/Revolution/revolution.x86 or chmod 777 /media/KINGSTON/Revolution/revolution.x86 Good luck, Rishi. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Potential disaster for Rev/Linux pendrive apps
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 06:02, Bob Warren wrote: I have tried running Rev from my pendrive using xterm in Feisty Fawn Flight 5 on a live CD. Here is the result: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /media/KINGSTON/Revolution/revolution.x86 bash: /media/KINGSTON/Revolution/revolution.x86: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /media/KINGSTON/Revolution/revolution.x86 sudo: unable to execute /media/KINGSTON/Revolution/revolution.x86: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Hmmm, has ubuntu changed the default permissions given to pendrives when they are mounted? Do you have executable rights on that file? (ls -la) If not, try changing the permissions on the file on the pendrive and try again. If this is the problem, you will have to dig deeper and change the defaults for mounting pendrives so that you do have executable rights. Hope this helps, Rishi. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Ann] New game made with Rev. Drops
Aw, no Linux version? Would it be too much to ask? I can't be bothered re-booting into Windoze in my coffee breaks anymore... ;) Cheers, Rishi. On Thursday 01 February 2007 09:41, Malte Brill wrote: Hi all, I am very proud to announce that after a while of quietness, I finally released a new product. It is simple. It is fast. It is addictive. It is Drops! Drops is a deceptively simple but captivating game, ideal to play during your coffee break, or for an evening of fun. It's surprisingly addictive and requires more skill than is apparent at first sight. See if you can beat the high score and become immortalized on the high scores board. Become a real Drops master! http://www.derbrill.de/drops/index.php?lang=en There are quite a few people I need to thank: Wouter, Mark, Björnke for sharing devtime on chatrev and banging hard on the game in Beta. Trevor for the excellent getUserLang() function and heads up. Benedikt for additional artwork Daniel and Olli for PHP stuff And finally all of you on use-rev for bearing with me in the silly scripts thread! Without you I wouldn´t have managed! To celebrate a new game made with Rev and animationEngine I am happy to announce that you will get a free copy of Drops with every purchase of animationEngine for a limited time. Buy Animation Engine or Revolution Media with Animation engine and get Drops free! You can download a trial version of Drops from Derbill Website. If you want to read a little article of the dev process you might be interested in reading the current newsletter: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/january/issue19/newsletter2.php All the best, Malte ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: StackRunner and MySQL
On Thursday 18 January 2007 06:47, Sieg Lindstrom wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Ken. I tried it as follows. StackRunner is in the same folder that contains the folder Externals. Here's the syntax I used... revSetDatabaseDriverPath /Externals/Database Drivers That didn't fix the problem. Any other suggestions? Not sure if you have the right syntax here. Should it be looking relevant to the StackRunner path or the actual stack path (which may be different). Anyway, following your example you would want to drop the leading / wouldn't you? try: revSetDatabaseDriverPath Externals/Database Drivers Good luck, Rishi. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Gnome or KDE?
Hi Ken, In the shell you can run: kde-config --version and you would get an output like: Qt: 3.3.6 KDE: 3.5.2 kde-config: 1.0 BUT, I don't know if you would still get this if KDE was installed but not running... (You can have GNOME and KDE on the one system, this is how I can run GNOME specific apps under KDE). Presumably there would be a similar shell command for GNOME (gnome-config --version). I don't think it really solves your problem though. You really need to check the system environment variables to see what window manager is running. Unfortunately I can't help you there... Cheers, Rishi. On Monday 11 September 2006 05:02, Ken Ray wrote: Is there any simple way for a Rev stack to know whether the currently running version of Linux uses Gnome or KDE? And if so, what's the best way to determine what version of Gnome or KDE is in use? Thanks, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Galaxy Studio is available for Windows and MacOS X
Hi Jerry, On Wednesday 16 August 2006 06:46, Jerry Daniels wrote: Bob, We will be watching closely when Rev 2.7 for Linux comes out to see what the level of work will be for a Linux version of Galaxy. Thanks for the interest. Jerry Daniels Just a quick note of support for this. And a commitment, I'll be happy to help with testing under Linux when 2.7 does finally come out, if you need any testing. I'll also commit to purchase when it does come out... Cheers, -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: fstab
Bob,
There is always a way! You may just have to dig a little deeper. (You can try
your Option 1).
This new hot pluggable way of dealing with removable drives is managed through
the dynamic device file system /dev/. The management of this across most
*nix's seems to be migrating to a utility called udev. Ubuntu seems to use it
too:
http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/admin/udev
but that is besides the point as we need a unerversal way to do this on any
distro.
Have a look on the udev home page:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html
and read everything you can on udev and hotplug. A good quick into is on the
Gentoo site:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
The problem begins with the fact that all removable drives (USB, floppy, CD
etc), especially these days, really are removable. You could have five USB
floppies attached one day and none the next. Why have a static device system
like fstab for that? It doesn't make sense, so the distro makers define rules
for dynamically creating and naming these devices as they are inserted and
removed. To solve the problem you will need to look into these rule systems
to find out what sort of name you should be looking for in the dynamic device
file system...
One solution would be to use udevinfo to find block devices (/sys/block/*)
that have the SYSFS{removable}==1 flag set (meaning the device is
removable). Then find out how the kernel identifies that device from the
KERNEL==fd0 line. Then look at how this device is configured by hotplug in
the hotplug rules file. You will see a line like:
KERNEL==fd0, SYMLINK+=floppy. This tells us that a symlink will be made
like: /dev/floppy when the floppy is plugged in. The floppy name its self
could be anything your distro makers might choose (fd, floppy, fdd, etc). The
final name might be variable too. E.g. SYMLINK+=floppy%n would
make /dev/floppy1, /dev/floppy2, etc for each drive.
Complicated though. Who uses floppy drives anymore anyway? I know with usb
drives the rules could specify that the device is mounted using the volume
label as a name, so you can keep track of which one out of the 4 USB drives
you really mean to use... This would make what you are doing even harder. Why
not just ask the user to tell your program where they want to put something?
;)
Rishi.
On Saturday 15 July 2006 03:02, Bob Warren wrote:
Following what I have just said, I am snookered anyway!
The fstab is supposed to tell us whether or not a floppy drive exists in
the hardware. It no longer does that reliably. So there is no point in
trying to mount a drive which might not exist! If you DO try to mount a
drive which does not exist in the hardware, then the failure in Rev will
not give an error anyway!
As far as I see it, the only other hope of resolving this situation lies
in 6 directions:
1) Provide an alternative way of discovering whether or not there is a
floppy physically on the system, independent of examining the fstab.
2) Ask Rev to arrange some kind of error code when an attempt to mount a
drive through the shell fails.
3) Shoot the Linux distro producers.
4) Commit suicide.
5) Return to using only Windows, accompanied by sneers and jeers.
6) Take a nice long nap and hope that things will have sorted themselves
out by the time I (we) wake up.
I am inclined to choose #6. It's Friday.
Bob
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Re: revealing drivers list
On 7/17/06, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working with a KeySpan USB to SERIAL just fine - once I got the send and rec terminators right. What piqued my curiosity was the reference in the docs for 'open driver' it says: On OS X and Unix systems, you can obtain a list of available devices by reading the file /dev/tty. We use one of these type of devices. It gives us two serial ports from the one USB device. The devices come up in the system as /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1. The normal serial port is at /dev/tty0. HTH -- Rishi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: fstab
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 13:09, Bob Warren wrote: Examining other fstab's, there is a variation in the way the floppy and CD-rom appear (if they appear at all). The first word for the floppy can be /dev/fd0 The second word for the floppy can be /media/floppy0 /mnt/floppy etc. The first word for the CD-rom can be /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom1 /dev/hdc etc. The second word for the CD-rom can be /media/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom1 etc. For what its worth, I understand that these changes are being made to help make floppy drives and cdroms more hotpluggable - ie more Win/Mac like, where you don't need to sync/unmount/eject the drives when you have finished. It is also to treat them more like usb removable storage devices. The changes seem to be improving ease of use... -- Rishi Viner -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev for Linux Seal of Approval
On Friday 07 July 2006 17:12, Chipp Walters wrote: We do have something running in the labs right now. But really, is there enough of an installed user base of Rev developers in Linux to make it a commercially viable product? Besides, aren't most Linux users wanting NOT TO PAY for stuff? Chipp, that is probably a bit of an old fashioned view of Linux users, although what you say is fair enough, given its past. More and more I am seeing commercial users choosing Linux. Because of that, more and more commercial and proprietary software is being produced for Linux users. Still, it is a drop in the ocean really.. Are you willing to shell out, say $200 for such an add-on? If not, what is the 'right price?' Frankly, it's pretty hard making any kind of money developing add-ons for Rev in the Mac/PC space, much less than Linux. Just because there is one or two loud voices, doesn't mean there is a business opportunity for us in Linux. I would pay that if I had a need, but my software is mostly in-house stuff and right now I don't have the need for a browser. Which I guess confirms that the market may be very small, as it is only a part of what is already a small group... -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Market Share
On Monday 10 July 2006 05:45, Richard Gaskin wrote: Then along came BootCamp, and eventually a variant which further blurs the lines between Mac and Windows apps. When that version arrives, there will be little incentive to support Mac developers -- and that includes cross platform developers like most of us here, since users can run VB-native apps right inside of an OS X window. Welcome to Macintosh. Thank you for your two decades of sacrifice. Now please excuse us as we make it easy for non-Mac developers to walk in and destroy your business without lifting a finger... Ouch! Sounds like you were getting ready to rest on your laurels... -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Market Share
On Monday 10 July 2006 04:12, Richmond Mathewson wrote: There are 2 definitions of a killer app and the one I don't like is the amazing app that ties users in to a dependence on one OS for ever. Agreed. People are generally less and less happy with being locked in to anything... Wouldn't it be super if RR were to evolve into the other type of Killer app: the type which, regardless of OS, hardware, or whatever, nobody could do without? Exactly! If you can nail that you will see real, ongoing success. -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev for Linux Seal of Approval
On Friday 07 July 2006 05:11, Richard Gaskin wrote: While I don't normally have much respect for RB marketing resources, SUSE makes a lot of sense. This set of videos shows a seriousness about usability not often found in other distros: http://www.novell.com/video/desktop/ Sure, half of that is just OS X knockoffs, but if you're going to steal ideas they might as well steal good ones. :) Favoring Novell also returns a favor to the Rev community: Novell has published a series of articles about using Rev on SUSE: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/14961.html http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/1631.html http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/1863.html I'd agree that SuSE is one of the better commercial options. If you are installing office wide and need something well supported, this is a great option. Novell really do seem to be going in the right direction here. I have 4 people in my office working productively on SuSE desktops, and all coming from low computer literacy backgrounds. SuSE is one of the first distros to get to the stage where I would let people loose on it and expect to get productive work just done. Who knows? If enough of us pool our resources maybe we can push SUSE enough to kill off most of the others, ultimately benefiting everyone Disagree with that. Choice is what makes Linux strong. What you should hope for is greater standards compliance across all the Linux families and desktop types... -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev for Linux Seal of Approval
On Friday 07 July 2006 04:47, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: I personally have Ubuntu linux (Debian family) installed on my laptop PC and PC as the second OS. Talking about different families of Linux is probably more relevant. The differences often come down to the package manager, mainly. Red Hat - RPM Debian - APT Gentoo - Portage etc Most of the other distros come in to the category of someone wanting to take one of those frameworks and make a new distro from it by tailoring it for a particular use, eg server, desktop, home theater, nubie, guru, live CD, commercial, free only or just I can do it better. They don't start from scratch but use another distro in the family and branch off from it. Regarding the criterions I would suggest taking compliance with LSB 3.1 standard as the main criteria because that's what all the standard is for... All serious Linuxes should implement this standard. Good choice and more productive to back the standard than a particular distro. You would probably get more mileage from just stating the requirements for Rev, than by stating compliance with a given distro. The distros change regularly, if you state compliance with SuSE you had better maintain that even though SuSE will have new versions out many times per year with significant differences. E.g. audio should soon be jumping from Alsa to Jack, probably across many distros. My 2c. -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev for Linux Seal of Approval
On Friday 07 July 2006 06:38, chris bohnert wrote: You'll get my gentoo box when you pry it from my cold dead hands. Here here! And hello fellow Gentoo user! Bob Warren: 1. The distro runs or installs automatically (i.e. can be done by a layman) and configures all normal hardware, even on old machines, including Windows network printers, floppy diskette drives, etc. On the face of it, Gentoo fails your point 1 dismally! Gentoo is anything but a nice automated install. BUT in terms of hardware support, Gentoo will find a way, where many other distros have failed time and again. I ended up first installing Gentoo primarily due to other distros not being able to handle my hardware. I learnt a lot along the way and think Gentoo is the best distro at forcing you to actually learn how linux works. The point is, diversity is the strength of Linux. There will always pop into existence a distro that does what a certain group of users needs (no matter how small). The best thing is there is always choice. Something the Mac/Win models have always lacked. -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux installation
Hi Bob, On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 06:56 am, Bob Warren wrote: If any of you have non-Debian based Linuxes installed, would you mind giving it a quick try? I would also be interested in knowing the contents of the sys_info.txt output file under your different Linux flavour. On Gentoo (with KDE), I get: /home/rishi/Desktop/ /home/rishi/ /usr/ /tmp/ /home/rishi/ failed failed failed in my sys_info.txt Under KDE it looks like you have trouble with FontsFolder, StartupItemsFolder, TrashFolder. I'm fairly sure the normal fonts location is: /usr/share/fonts/ My startup items folder is at: /home/rishi/.kde/Autostart/ My trash is at /home/rishi/Desktop/trash.desktop which is a shortcut with URL=trash:/ I'm not sure how those KDE/Konqueror KIOslave URLs work in terms of file systems... might get more info on this as freedesktop.org? HTH -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux installation
On Mon, 29 May 2006 06:34 am, Bob Warren wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Thanks Bob. While I'm sure RunRev will be interested in catching up with RB's well thought-out suite of folder paths, I'm not sure how long I can hold my breath waiting for Linux-related stuff in Bugzilla (I'm already in my 40s g) -- do you know of shell calls to get those paths? I don't need system or some of the others, just DesktopFolder, PreferencesFolder, and maybe ApplicationsSupportFolder. --- Richard: I don't know of any shell calls that can be made through Linux, but they must exist I imagine. Perhaps one of the Linux wizards out there can help. ~ will find the users home folder. For example making a directory like this: mkdir ~/MyApp will make the folder /home/username/MyApp. So to place something on the users desktop, you would put it in ~/Desktop/ (note case sensitive!). This is the same on every Linux distro that I use (RedHat, SuSE, Gentoo). User specific preferences for an application would usually go in ~/.MyApp, which may be a file or a folder... Global preferences would go in the application folder, but I'm not sure if you will always have permissions to write to this? Not sure here. HTH -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux installation
On Sun, 28 May 2006 12:16 am, Garrett Hylltun wrote: The other issue might be, what the equivalents of sudo and su are on other flavors of linux. I know sudo and su are on debian, but not sure about the others. All Linux flavors should have su! They will also all have sudo if it is installed (it is an application on its own). If sudo is not there it would be unusual and certainly very easy for the user to install, as long as they have the root password etc to set it up. -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More cross-platform info needed - Linux Distro for testing
Hi Sarah, On other linux distro option for you: SuSE Linux. There is a free version: www.opensuse.org and a commercial (supported) version: www.novell.com/linux/ that you can buy through various Oz linux stores. Just though I'd mention the option, as sometimes it is nice to have the option of support / printed manuals etc... Try www.lsl.com.au Cheers, -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constellation on Linux
On 4/6/06, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seamus, Not on Linux yet. We are working on a major upgrade to the product line and Linux support and compatibility is one of our goals. Jerry, Just so you know, you'll have another customer here, once you get the Linux version sorted. Cheers, -- Rishi Viner -- PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GPS coordinates to metres
Has anyone here done work with GPS coordinates. I have a set of coordinates and a point at the centre of my map. I need to convert these to metres relative to the centre of my map. The coordinates are in the form: LatitudeLongitude 37.29464 126.8324167 37.294642 126.832415 37.294642 126.832415 37.294642 126.8324133 37.294642 126.8324133 Looks like you have decimal degrees for lat/long. You'll pobably need to convert to degrees, minutes and seconds. (60 seconds in a minute etc). Then you could convert from coordinates to Universal Transverse Mercator (UTM) grid coordinates, which are in metres. Thats the fun part. Read up on geodetic datum conversions. (Simple concept intro here: http://www.biodiversity.ea.gov.au/erin/tools/geo2amg.html ). There are various gov surveying web sites that explain the maths. Thats all I have time for now. Hope it helps, -- Rishi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The End of Dreamcard?
Hi Timothy, I have a bunch of stacks that began in Hypercard, then got modified and extended in Dreamcard. They don't use every command and function in the catalog, but they are fairly complex. When Dreamcard is no more, what will I have to buy so that I can continue entering and changing data, and modifying and extending the stacks? It looks like the answer is Studio, but I'm not sure. I'm in the same boat too. I could use Media, except for the lack of database support... If you need database support, you had better go Studio. If the answer is Studio, then an editorial follows. Otherwise, ignore subsequent lines. If I have to buy Studio, I will buy it. I have no choice, really. If so, the cost is annoyingly high, but not the main problem. The main problem is that I will be driving a V-12 Jaguar down the block to the convenience store. This couldn't be a good thing for me, or users like me. Here here! I'm in Australia and 199UK Pounds is a LOT of money for me and my small business. Especially when you consider Dreamcard met my needs perfectly. I don't doubt that Studio is worth 199UK. I'm just complaining that I need to buy Studio when Dreamcard is doing me just fine! I can't spend the rest of my life chasing ever new and more complex technology, just so I can run a fairly simple sole-proprietor business. I can't anxiously scan a list like this every day for the rest of my life, just to keep up with the technology, so I can continue running simple stacks. But I can't allow my stacks to become obsolete, either. Starting over with paper and pencil, or hand-entering all my data into some shabby one-size-fits-all commercial product is not very attractive. That's why I switched from hyperCard to Dreamcard. Yep. We must be the demographic that just got overlooked. -- Rishi Viner -- Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 04:45 pm, Scott Kane wrote: By-By DreamCard? Is there really a market for it anyway? I mean, apart from education most people want to compile binaries... How about in-house software developers? If you only need to produce software to ease your own workflow, you don't really need binaries do you? Dreamcard fits in perfectly here. Rishi Viner. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How About a Forum, I'll Supply the Space?
I agree wtih Dan and Greg, A forum is a much better vehicle for building a community. I've participated on a number of things, forum based and mailing list based, and the forum experience wins hands down. These communities are so big they could not operate on a mailing list format: http://forums.gentoo.org/ http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forumlist.asp http://contribs.org/modules/pbboard/ Mailing lists are OK when you are passing through 10 messages a day, but this thing is just not practical. Come on rev, let Dan mirror your list and make you the moderators of the new forum. You could even brand it. The forum is a much better way to search for the support you need. Quoting Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have free access to some of the best forum software around and it enables mail-list mirroring and participation in the forum via email in both directions. I've offered several times to mirror this list there but the response has been non-existent. I've hesitated to set this uip even though I have the software, the bandwidth, the disk capacity and the desire because: (a) RunRev seems to take the position that they own this list; and (b) without their permission, therefore, it seems ill-advised to mirror it elsewhere. On 12/14/05, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Dan Shafer in both of his opinions - the community is too small already and that a mailing list is the worst possible vehicle for facilitating the Revolution Community at large. A forum would provide for all of the possible areas of discussion by segregating the general topic categories, accordingly. The mailing list requires reading -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Save on Linux, not on Mac, Win
Hi Ken, Here is one little vote for a Linux version of StackRunner! That would be really handy for me for all my in-house stuff. Being able to configure things to start on a double click, without the need to use a file picker each time you want to run a stack would be great! Hoping... :) Rishi Viner. On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 01:09 pm, Ken Ray wrote: If you want to avoid all the secure mode stuff, you can use StackRunner instead of DreamCard Player for Mac and Windows (sorry, I don't have a Linux version ready yet). More info at: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm HTH, Ken Ray -- Rishi Viner -- PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DLL usage in RunRev
Hi Ken, Thanks for the great tip (below). Do you have any links / info / experience in doing this with Linux .so (shared object) files? I would be interested in doing this with database drivers to isolate myself from version changes. Any help / links appreciated... Basically an DLL is either built exclusively for Revolution using the headers/source provided in the Externals kit, or it is a third party DLL (a normal DLL). Revolution externals are loaded with the set the externals to list of externals command (see externals in the Transcript Dictionary), and third party DLLs *can* be used, but you have to provide an intermediary to call them (see the tip). Hope this helps, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rishi Viner -- PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sound in Linux
Hi there, I'm not experienced enough with sound in Rev to help there, but I do have some Linux experience. I just think that if it is making some sound at all, then the problem may be with the Linux sound system..? Does sound playback work using XMMS or something like that? If not you may need to play around with your alsa config... On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:25 pm, Mathewson wrote: Having spent some time on the first cycle of my EFL system development - making the stacks using my licensed version of Dreamcard - I popped them onto my new PC (PIII, 600 MHz, 128 MB RAM - Kubuntu 5.10) - A BIG THANK YOU TO NOVELL for FREE RR 2.2.1 - and when I clicked on the button Brown Cow instead of hearing my growly voice saying Brown Cow (No rocket science round here - just English for 6 year-old Bulgarians) I heard something very like a cat being run over by a truck . . . Hard science: recorded the sound on a Mac using the Sound Studio program that came bundled with the 10.2 install - Mono, 44.000, AIFF I suspect this is not the right format for Linux, but can find nothing in either RR or MC documentation. More rests on this than my poxy little language school as the resulting programs (standalones) for Linux will be uploaded to Ubuntu for distribution in Africa (Mind you, I can't help feeling sorry for the poor Africans having to put up with my Brown Cows). I hope, hope, hope that I can get sound to behave in Linux without resort to the superannuated and crappy xanim. And, Mike Talluto, as my name is mud in RR circles (!!!) I cannot get into Bugzilla, etc. and say my piece about movie files and so forth with RR/MC in Linux. I suppose the bottom line is that I shall have to have a very dirty weekend embedding every possible sound configuration I can think of in a stack on the Mac and them messing around with it on the Kubuntu PC - although a little voice tells me that this is rather inefficient. I would be extremely grateful for any help in this area. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson -- Rishi Viner -- PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Listing files in a folder
Wow! Some days you just don't know how lucky you will be! :) I'm about to start on an in-house project using rev that will also need to keep track of and move lots of files around. Thanks Sarah! Rishi Viner. Quoting Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, I got sick of listing files in various folders and having to set the default folder to do so, and then having to remember to set it back afterwards. You can't use the files to list files in anything other than the default folder, so here is the function I wrote to handle this boring stuff for me. It may be of no interest to most people, but I am currently working on an app that has to examine multiple folders and transfer files around, so it is saving me a lot of typing. The first parameter is the path to a folder. The second parameter dictates whether the full file path for each file should be returned, or just the file name. It can be any of true, yes or full. Cheers, Sarah function listFiles pFolder, pGiveFullPath if there is not a folder pFolder then return empty -- get the list of files reset default folder put the defaultFolder into tOldDefault set the defaultFolder to pFolder put the files into tFileList set the defaultFolder to tOldDefault -- filter out OS X's invisible files filter tFileList without .* -- add folder path to file name if required if pGiveFullPath is among the items of true,yes,full then put empty into tFullList if the last char of pFolder / then put / after pFolder repeat for each line L in tFileList put pFolder L cr after tFullList end repeat delete last char of tFullList return tFullList else return tFileList end if end listFiles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Looking for a cheap web hosting ISP
Just chipping in late with a possible work around for this libc version issue.
-jailshell-2.05b$ ldd mc
linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00341000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4cba8000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4cc72000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x00347000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x00223000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x0020a000)
There you see libc.so.6... the problem in Dans webhost is a wrong
version of libC, if he uses ldd then search for the file, he'll not
find it... the server is using an older version of libC, he is
probably using GLIB2.2 and needs 2.3...
I work with a lot of linux machines here and have encountered this sort of
thing fairly often. Sometimes a linux distribution will package a compat or
compatibility version of a library when they ship their distro with a new
version of the library. The idea being that your older software will work
more easily on the new upgraded distro. So you may be able to install a
compat package to get it working. This is the best solution.
Assuming you can't do this on someone else's web server there is another
possibility... This assumes you get a message like libc.so.5 is missing and
I need this library to run. Looking at these compat packages (often
installed as say 'libc-6.0-compat') I find that sometimes they just provide a
symbolic link from the old shared object ('so') library to the new one. For
example they will provide a link in the library directory from libc.so.5 -
libc.so.6. This assumes that the new version of the library is backward
compatible... Dangerous assumption, but they often are. I have generally had
good success making these links when needed and the advantage is that you
might be able to create these symbolic links on the web server even if you
can't install software/libraries. If this is a possibility for you, you would
do something like this at the linux command line:
#ln -s /lib/tls/libc.so.5 /lib/tls/libc.so.6
which creates the link from the .5 to the .6.
Now if we do:
# ls -la /lib/tls/
you would see something with:
/lib/tls/libc.so.5 - /lib/tls/libc.so.6
Now if your program accesses libc.so.5 it gets redirected to libc.so.6 without
knowing it.
I know this will only help in some specific circumstances, but hope it is
useful anyway.
Cheers,
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Re: Constellation
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:30 pm, Dennis Brown wrote: If I pay RunRev for a better product, I am justified in yelling at them if they slack off on delivering. If it were open source, I would have to beg for someone to donate the time to fix or improve anything. Not entirely true... You could always offer to pay the developer some money to fix your gripe. ;-) This is actually quite common. Most open source development projects have a paypal link on their sites too, so you can make donations just to keep them interested! -- Rishi Viner -- PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Constellation Script Property Editor 1.0.0 Released
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:36 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote: Rishi Viner wrote: Awww, no linux version... :-( I live in the hope that one day someone will put this much time and effort into making things streamlined and logical for the Linux users... dreaming on... It's all Transcript -- why wouldn't it work any platform Rev supports? Well, the web site says versions are available for Windows and OS X, so I presumed they had done something OS specific... maybe not? -- Rishi Viner -- Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Constellation Script Property Editor 1.0.0 Released
Awww, no linux version... :-( I live in the hope that one day someone will put this much time and effort into making things streamlined and logical for the Linux users... dreaming on... Rishi. Colleagues and Friends... - 31,299 lines of code - 1,099 handlers - 357 tested versions - a script property editor with tabbed browsing in one window - 49 preferences It is my pleasure to inform you that the 1.0.0 version of Constellation has just been released and is available for purchase at this URL: http://daniels-mara.com/products -- Rishi Viner -- Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution under Ubuntu Linux?
Mark, I haven't figured out how to get it into the menu system, but that's no doubt my unfamiliarity with Gnome. Yeah, I had to build my own menu option as well. I use Suse with KDE so I right click on the KDE 'start' menu button, click Menu Editor then popped a new launcher into 'Development' / 'GUI Designer'. Looking on a few RedHat GNOME machines here it looks like you have to go to the 'System' menu, then 'Personal Settings' then 'Menus' and you get a kind of file manager approach to building your menus. Kind of sucks to have to build this yourself, but I guess it is a positive to get to put things where you want them..? Once there it has been quick and easy to use. One problem I have is that I can't get an icon for Rev to use in the menu. I had to pick a suitable generic icon. Might have to work out how to make my own icon or convert one of Rev's... Cheers, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution under Ubuntu Linux?
Gordon, For an icon, just select the revapp.ico file in the Sample Icons folder. Unfortunately KDE doesn't want to play with ico files, so I didn't use this. But, your post made me realise all I would have to do is convert the ico to png format and I would be able to use it fine. Well, I just tried this and now have a propper Rev icon at last! Should have done it ages ago... Thanks for the motivation boost, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installers for Mac / Linux?
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:07 pm, Derek Bump wrote: My suggestion would be to follow what is traditional for the platform. A setup from for Windows. A DMG for MacOS X. And a gzip file (or whatever is used) for Unix. Linux packages are often installed using the RPM system (originally RedHat Package Manager). Free, well documented and supported on most distributions. Have a look here as a start: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/RPM-HOWTO.html HTH -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution running on Ubuntu?
Hi Peter, I use Rev under Fedora and SuSE linux. Don't expect everything to run 'perfectly', but it will run very well. One 'gotcha' if you are running under KDE: make sure you close klipper (clipboard tool) as it will interfere with your cut/copy/paste ability in the script editor. There is a bug filed about this problem, but you just have to work around it for now. Hope this helps. Cheers, Rishi Viner. On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:51 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had anyone sucess running Revolution under Ubuntu Linux or Debian? Best Regards Peter -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question for Linux Users:
Hi Damien, On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 05:45 pm, you wrote: Please, go to http://support.runrev.com/bugzilla (or use RevZilla) and confirm bugs that I have reported about the Linux engine. OK, will do. I have looked at a few of the Linux bugs there now and found one relating to Klipper under KDE (clipboard manager tool). I turned Klipper off and bingo - cut/copy/paste now works with Rev! (_Such_ a relief...). And I have never had a perfect/smooth/functional experience with Rev under Linux/Unix. (I have got FreeBSD now, and Runrev doesn't work at all). I'm running SuSE 9.2 Pro with KDE 3.4. So, I am waiting the perfect Revolution Linux/Unix who work so good as work Runrev under MacOS X. I agree, wouldn't that be great! Best of both worlds. I guess Linux users are in the minority, but we do pay the same price to buy Rev... Cheers, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Question for Linux Users:
Linux users, What distro do you find works best with Rev? Do you find it works better with a KDE or GNOME desktop? I'm getting a lot of annoying things happening like: -cut/copy/paste just doesn't work -keyboard interaction in Rev is sometimes flaky (eg sometimes when writing scripts the enter key stops working, so you can't get a new line). So I was wondering if there are Linux users out there who are having a perfect/smooth/functional experience with Rev and if so, what environment they are in that seems to keep it all nice. Thanks! -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
TAB and SHIFT-TAB
Hi All, Tabbing through the fields on my stack works well, but I can't seem to get Shift-Tab to work (would normally go back through the tab order). Is this supposed to work in Rev? If so how do you enable it? Cheers, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to open a stack using the Player under linux...
I am trying to open a .rev stack in linux using the Rev Dreamcard Player. Double clicking on them does nothing. Trying to run from the command prompt like this: ./MyStack.rev just causes Midnight Commander to run (a command line file manager program with run command 'mc'). Stack made using Rev Dreamcard 2.5.1. Using Dreamcard Player 2.5.1. Also trying this at the command prompt: revolution_dreamcard_player MyStack.rev causes the player to start up and display the online help page but not my stack. How is this supposed to work? Thanks in advance, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Strange database connection behaviour under Linux
Hi All, Hoping for some help with this. I'm using Dreamcard 2.5.1 to put data into a MySQL database. I have developed the application on my laptop running SuSE 9.1 Pro and it works great. I can connect to MySQL databases on my local machine and on various remote servers on our network. The problem comes when I try to use this stack on any other machines. I have tried running my stack using the Dreamcard Player on one machine running RedHat 9 and another running SuSE 9.1 Pro with no luck. I get errors like: There was an error in connecting to the database. Please check that the connection fields are correct. Revdb error: revdberr, invalid database type I have double checked the connection information and it is good. I have also double checked that my database user has permissions to connect from the various hosts I am connecting from. I have the same problem whether I use the Database Query Builder or do it manually in a script. In frustration and thinking that it may be a Player issue, I have installed the Dreamcard IDE on the RedHat machine, but get exactly the same problem. It looks like Rev can't find or use the database drivers on the other machines, yet they seem to be in the right location (comparing with my original development machine). I have little (no) experience with preparing stacks to run on other machines from the development machine. Any ideas / suggestions as to what might be causing this? Thanks, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Strange database connection behaviour under Linux
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:34 pm, Bill Humphrey wrote: Have you used YourSQL or similar utility to test the connections to other machines? Hi Bill, Thanks for your quick reply! The answer is yes, I have connected using the knoda database program from the other machines first, just to make sure I could do it and had the permissions etc. No problems with that. Cheers, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: load database tables
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:47 pm, t wrote: Is there a command that stores the tables in an array or a scrolling field. Basically the answer is yes. Have a look under Documentation | Topics | Database Operations. The way to do it depends on whether you want to use an automatic query, revDataFromQuery or by using a record cursor. -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Database query results into Combo Box list
Hi All, I'm new to this list and Revolution (although I did a fair bit of Hypercard programming back in '92). I'm using Dreamcard 2.5.1 to build a data entry form to assist with typing lots of info into a database. I've done a lot of reading through the documentation and the archives for this list, but haven't yet found an answer to my problem: I want to populate a combo box (menu) with a list of items returned from a database query. I can run the query OK, but how do I put the results into the combo box menu? When I try using: get revQueryDatabase(...) put it into menu RdNoMenu I just get one single number in there, not the 1000 or so records that would have been returned by the select statement. Any help appreciated, including where to look for the answer to this problem. Cheers, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Access to MySQL convert
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:46 pm, Paul Salyers wrote: Does anyone have or know of a preferable a Rev, program or any kind that will convert Access to MySQL db? In Linux, you can use mdbtools (http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/) to open mdb files and export their contents to many formats. It claims to export schema and data to SQL for import to MySQL, but I haven't tried it myself. Good luck, hope this helps. Cheers, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
