Cursor questions
Here are the directions for producing cursors for Revolution that won't come out white: 1. Open Photoshop. Name the image, Mode being RGB color, Background Transparent, and width and height 16 pixels. 2. Change Image/Mode to Indexed Color, using the defaults for indexed color (Palette: Exact; Forced: Web; Transparency checked; Matte: none) 3. With image maximally magnified, used the pencil tool to insert black or white pixels. Enclosed areas can be filled with white or black if desired and pixels can be erased if desired. 4. Save as PNG. 5. Bring the PNG image into Revolution and note it's ID number (it may be 1003 for instance). 6. In the script to call the cursor write: on mouseUp set lockcursor to true set the cursor to 1003 -- if that's the ID number end mouseUp All cursors should show up fine on both Mac and Windows. (I used Mac OS X with Revolution 2.7 in development) It is interesting that sometimes there can be two identical pictures in Photoshop, one of which will show up cursors correctly and the other will show up only a white square or a black filled image, even though all the parameters in Photoshop seem to be the same!! I don't know why this should be the case but it implies that there is something different about the two images even if not apparent. This can be easily corrected either by creating a new Photoshop 16x16 document, carefully duplicating the pixels of the defective image, or more simply, just pasting the defective image into the new Photoshop document. The cursors should then appear fine. If you would like a group of many new cursors produced this way, let me know and I'll be glad to send them. Stephen Goldberg stgoldb...@aol.com In a message dated 3/19/10 12:05:36 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com writes: From: Jeffrey Massung mass...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Cursor questions To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 3be3c33d-aa42-49b3-bf31-e2c8b5121...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii After taking this to the next level and using my own image as a cursor... my cursor (a 16x16 imported PNG image) is turning into 100% white when I set the cursor to it. The shape is correct, but just all the colors are white. I can't find anything in the documentation about this. Any hints as to what I'm doing wrong? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Uploading a reblet to the web via Freeway Pro
I've successfully gotten a stack to show up in Safari in test mode with webmedia. Navigation between cards is quick, but any script with RevGoURL does not work. In addition, on attempting to upload the stack to my website using Freeway Pro (the development tool I used to create the website), the stack does not show up; instead, I get a request to use the plugin, which I cannot find. Any suggestions? Great potential for the web program, but still some unanswered questions. Thanks. Stephen Goldberg www.medmaster.net ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377107x1201454434/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp; hmpgID=62amp;bcd=JulyExcfooterNO62) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reducing image file sizes
Image resolutions can be easily determined in Photoshop under the File menu Image/Image Size. Then, within the same menu,one can alter either the image resolution or dimensions of the image. Stephen Goldberg www.medmaster.net In a message dated 5/18/09 10:26:52 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com writes: I have a customer project that displays scanned images and photos of varying dimensions. These files are usually huge, with formatted sizes in thousands of pixels. I need a way to change the image resolution, or otherwise reduce the file size, so that the images can be rewritten to disk with a much smaller footprint in order to fit them on a single CD. But I need to preserve the original dimensions in inches, so that they will still print at their actual, original size. I think I need to determine the original resolution so that I can calculate the dimensions in inches, right? Is there a way to get that? ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823248x1201398651/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=MayExcfooter51609NO62) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can one hide a referenced folder?
I'd appreciate it if anyone has a solution to the following: When images, sounds, and movies are referenced from Revolution and placed in a folder separate from the standalone, is there a way to hide the referenced folder so that the only thing the viewer sees is the standalone itself? Thanks. Stephen Goldberg stgoldb...@aol.com ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution
I know they can't compete with Scott Rossi's amazing interfaces, but there are a number of free educationally useful downloads of MedMaster medical applications at http://medmaster.net/freedownloads.html. All were built with Revolution. Stephen Goldberg, President MedMaster Inc www.medmaster.net In a message dated 2/17/09 1:00:22 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com writes: On 17 Feb 2009, at 13:12, Ben Rubinstein wrote: I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find that handy list I'm looking for. It's that time again: considering what development approach to take on a new project, which requires a cross-platform well connected desktop app with a slick UI, for a wide consumer audience. The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well understood; there's no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that will be needed; the question mark over Rev, as compared to the other two routes being considered, is evidence of good looking, slick, user interfaces. (A shocking indictment of my own work, of course, but then my work has always concentrated on functionality.) So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in Rev, that can be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used Rev to distribute products with an impressive modern user interface. I'm sure that they're out there - I just don't know where. Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer. ** Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesamp;ncid=emlcntusyelp0003) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Significant Rev 2.9 problem handling Quicktime, and slowness
I’m not sure if the following 2 problems were addressed in the forum, but hope that someone can help: I updated from Rev 2.7.4 to Rev 2.9.0 and then made a few small changes to a stack I had created with Rev 2.7.4. The stack was working fine under 2.7.4 (I’ m working on a Mac desktop with OS X 10.4.11 with 8 mg RAM). The following problems then occurred: I have a folder that nests both a stack and a movie folder. The movies in the movie folder are referred to in the stack through the Quicktime player on one of the cards. I put the file path to the movie in the Quicktime player Property Inspector. In Rev 2.7.4, I simply left the long absolute path to the movie within the player, never changing it. For some reason, this still worked well in the standalone, even when the standalone was run on a different Mac or Windows (Vista) computer. The movies showed up. In Rev 2.9.0, however, the long absolute path won’t work in the standalone on the other computers. I have to modify the absolute path to convert it to the short relative path format. While this method now works in the standalone, it doesn’t work in the stack itself. As soon as I create the short relative path, the Quicktime player goes blank in the stack (whether using 2.7.4 or 2.9.0). Is this a significant change in the way Rev 2.9.0 works? Not only that, the stack itself now takes a long time to load up (several minutes) when it is opened, and so does the standalone, whether on Mac or Windows. Thus there are two problems: 1. The absolute and relative paths appear to act differently in 2.7.4 than in 2.9.0. (the 2.74 way was more desirable since one didn’t have to shorten the absolute path to create the standalone). 2. After working with the stack in 2.9.0 it appears that the stack and standalone take a lot longer to open than it did when I just had 2.7.4. Now, if I go back to using 2.7.4 to build a standalone on the same stack that was altered in 2.9.0, it too is now associated with a long opening time of the both the stack and standalone. (The stack is structured as one Mainstack and 4 substacks. The only change I made was adding an extra card to the end of each stack). Does the above indicate some intrinsic problem with 2.9.0? Does 2.9.0 somehow damage a stack that previously was created in 2.7.4? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, since I have many stacks created in 2.7.4 and I’m wondering whether or not to continue working with them in 2.9.0. Thanks very much. Stephen Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
My cursor show as all black
Regarding created cursors showing up as black, I realize that you are not using Photoshop, but perhaps something in the following directions for creating cursors in Photoshop make be useful in the program you are using: 1. Open Photoshop. Name the image, Mode being RGB color, Background Transparent, and width and height 16 pixels. 2. Change Image/Mode to Indexed Color, using the defaults for indexed color (Palette: Exact; Forced: Web; Transparency checked; Matte: none) 3. With image maximally magnified, used the pencil tool to insert black or white pixels. Enclosed areas can be filled with white or black if desired and pixels can be erased if desired. 4. Save as PNG. 5. Bring the PNG image into Revolution and note it's ID number (it may be 1003 for instance). 6. In the script to call the cursor write: on mouseUp set lockcursor to true set the cursor to 1003 -- if that's the ID number end mouseUp All cursors should show up fine on both Mac and Windows. (I used Mac OS X with Revolution 2.7 in development) It is interesting that sometimes there can be two identical pictures in Photoshop, one of which will show up cursors correctly and the other will show up only a white square or a black filled image, even though all the parameters in Photoshop seem to be the same!! I don't know why this should be the case but it implies that there is something different about the two images even if not apparent. This can be easily corrected either by creating a new Photoshop 16x16 document, carefully duplicating the pixels of the defective image, or more simply, just pasting the defective image into the new Photoshop document. The cursors should then appear fine. If anyone would like a set of cursors created in this way, just let me know and I'll email them at no charge. Stephen Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem setting Quicktime VR zoom, tilt, and pan settings through the property inspector
I am trying to set the zoom, tilt, and pan settings for a Quicktime player by typing their values into the Quicktime player property inspector. However, this does not seem to change anything. I presently have to write a script to create the zoom, tilt, and pan settings. Am I doing something wrong? Should one not be able change these settings directly through the player property inspector? I'm using Rev 2.7.4 on a Mac OSX. Thanks. Steve Goldberg ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Automatically setting screen resolution
Sorry if I may have missed this topic in a previous forum. I'd appreciate any help on the following question: The standalones that I am creating require a screen resolution of 1024 x 768 or higher to properly fit on the screen. Since some people may have their monitors set to a lower resolution, I've been including a ReadMeFirst file explaining the need for them to reset their monitors to the higher resolution. Is there a way within Revolution to automatically set the resolution to 1024x768 (and then convert it back to the original resolution when the standalone closes)? I've been finding Revolution enormously helpful in preparing programs in medical education. At this time all the CDs in my company (MedMaster) are in Revolution. There are a few free downloads on the MedMaster web site if anyone is interested. Thanks very much. Steve Goldberg, MD, President MedMaster Inc www.medmaster.net ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime and which codec is supported
Yes, Apple does require that you ask permission to distribute their Quicktime player, even though one can normally download it for free. It is a simple matter to obtain permission, by filling out and mailing the application that Apple provides. Remember, also, that Apple requests that their logo, which can be downloaded from Apple , be printed on the CD's label. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 2/18/07 1:00:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement from Apple to distribute the player with my application and have to put their logo on my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and restriction? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Command to hide the tool palette
In a message dated 1/11/07 11:00:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The IDE stacks aren't generally listed there (you aren't really expected to mess with them,) but here is a handy trick: put the short name of the mousestack This will put the name of the stack the mouse is currently in. So just move your mouse somewhere over the stack you want to know about (no need to click) and then execute the line from the message box. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Thanks, Jacquie. As usual, you are right on the mark. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Command to hide the tool palette
Can anyone suggest a script to hide the Tools Palette on OpenStack? I have not been able to find a way. Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Command to hide the tool palette
Thanks for the word revTools Klaus to refer to the tools palette. I didn't find it in the Rev dictionary. However, in order to hide the tools palette, I suggest modifying the command to CLOSE stack revTools rather than HIDE stack revTools, since the HIDE command, while hiding the tools palette, does not uncheck the tools palette option in the Tools menu and it is then not possible to reshow the tools palette through the Tools menu. Switching the command to CLOSE stack revTools, though, permits one to reopen the tools palette through the Tools menu. The value of having this command is that when someone else who is not a programmer uses the stack they will be less likely to mess things up through an open Tools palette. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 1/10/07 12:53:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Command to hide the tool palette To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Steve, Can anyone suggest a script to hide the Tools Palette on OpenStack? I have not been able to find a way. Thanks. Steve Goldberg Maybe this will do the job? on openstack hide stack revTools end openstack ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Question about Find and Replace function
I've used Revolution to create an invoice program consisting of a Main stack and several substacks in which all the stacks contain 2006 as the last word of their names. Now, for 2007, I want to change all the times 2006 appears in the stack names and scripts to 2007. I've done this successfully but have some questions I don't understand about the process: a. I opened Find and Replace... from the Edit menu, typed in 2006 in the Find field and checked off Name and Script, since these are the places where 2006 appears. While in the Main stack, I chose the search process to occur in This stack file and its stack files, then clicked Find, which came up with some 337 objects found b. I then typed in 2007 into the Replace with field, clicked on Replace in All c. Interestingly, the program found and replaced 2006 a number of times but not all of them. I had to repeat the process about 6 times in order to replace all the instances of 2006. My questions are as follows: A. What is the Find program doing that requires 6 passes through the entire procedure to get all the words? B. What is the difference between selecting This stack file versus This stack and This stack file and its stack files? I presume that This stack file and its stack files refers to this stack and its substacks. What is the difference between a stack file and a stack? Find and Replace seems to be doing its job, but I'd just like to understand the process a little better. Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with slow opening of card 2
In a message dated 12/18/06 6:29:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this issue has been raised in the past, but bring it up once more with the hope that someone may have a resolution. The problem is that after using my Mac to create a standalone and then transferring the Windows standalone version to a Windows computer, the intial opening screen may open in a reasonable time, but on trying to go to the next card with a simple Go Next command, there is a significant delay in going to that card. After going to that second card, the program performs quickly in going from card to card. Why is there this delay and how can it be avoided? It doesn't seen related to whether or not there are any substacks, since the problem exists when there are no substacks and also exists when the size of the stack is relatively small. It has been suggested that perhaps it takes some time for the program to fully load. However, I tried the following unsuccessfully: a. I tried waiting some time before clicking on the Go Next button, but there still was a delay in going to that second card. b. Considering that there may be a delay in loading the program fully until one makes the move to that second card, I wrote the following script: On openStack set lockscreen to true go next go prev set lockscreen to false end openStack However, the delay persists. Any ideas? Thanks. My problem does not seem related to whether there are images or sounds on card 2. It is the same problem even if there are no images or sounds within the standalone. Also, I cannot see it being specific to any other content on card 2 since the problem exists in a variety of standalones which are quite different. Is this a known problem in Revolution? If not, perhaps it's something about my Windows computer (which tends to run slowly in general) rather than Revolution. My concern is that I need to distribute these standalones to Windows users and it can be frustrating waiting for that second card to open. I've tried to alleviate the problem partially by setting the cursor to watch until the second card loads. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with slow opening of card 2
I've found a workaround to the problem of slow opening of card 2, as follows: a. Originally, card 1 (the opening screen) had a Start button with the script going next to card 2 b. Make this opening screen card 2 c. Make card 1 a dummy card d. Add to the stack script: on openStack set lockcursor to true set cursor to watch go to card 2 set lockcursor to false end openStack This seems to do the trick, but admittedly it's a roundabout way that does not explain the original problem. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 12/18/06 1:00:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this issue has been raised in the past, but bring it up once more with the hope that someone may have a resolution. The problem is that after using my Mac to create a standalone and then transferring the Windows standalone version to a Windows computer, the intial opening screen may open in a reasonable time, but on trying to go to the next card with a simple Go Next command, there is a significant delay in going to that card. After going to that second card, the program performs quickly in going from card to card. Why is there this delay and how can it be avoided? It doesn't seen related to whether or not there are any substacks, since the problem exists when there are no substacks and also exists when the size of the stack is relatively small. It has been suggested that perhaps it takes some time for the program to fully load. However, I tried the following unsuccessfully: a. I tried waiting some time before clicking on the Go Next button, but there still was a delay in going to that second card. b. Considering that there may be a delay in loading the program fully until one makes the move to that second card, I wrote the following script: On openStack set lockscreen to true go next go prev set lockscreen to false end openStack However, the delay persists. Any ideas? Thanks. My problem does not seem related to whether there are images or sounds on card 2. It is the same problem even if there are no images or sounds within the standalone. Also, I cannot see it being specific to any other content on card 2 since the problem exists in a variety of standalones which are quite different. Is this a known problem in Revolution? If not, perhaps it's something about my Windows computer (which tends to run slowly in general) rather than Revolution. My concern is that I need to distribute these standalones to Windows users and it can be frustrating waiting for that second card to open. I've tried to alleviate the problem partially by setting the cursor to watch until the second card loads. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with slow opening of standalones on Windows
I know this issue has been raised in the past, but bring it up once more with the hope that someone may have a resolution. The problem is that after using my Mac to create a standalone and then transferring the Windows standalone version to a Windows computer, the intial opening screen may open in a reasonable time, but on trying to go to the next card with a simple Go Next command, there is a significant delay in going to that card. After going to that second card, the program performs quickly in going from card to card. Why is there this delay and how can it be avoided? It doesn't seen related to whether or not there are any substacks, since the problem exists when there are no substacks and also exists when the size of the stack is relatively small. It has been suggested that perhaps it takes some time for the program to fully load. However, I tried the following unsuccessfully: a. I tried waiting some time before clicking on the Go Next button, but there still was a delay in going to that second card. b. Considering that there may be a delay in loading the program fully until one makes the move to that second card, I wrote the following script: On openStack set lockscreen to true go next go prev set lockscreen to false end openStack However, the delay persists. Any ideas? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Stripping blank spaces before and after a word
A simple script to accomplish the removal of blank spaces (in field datafield) is as follows: repeat with x = 1 to the number of chars in field datafield if char x of field datafield is then delete char x of field datafield end repeat Steve Goldberg In a message dated 11/2/06 1:02:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have a handy little script that could be put in a repeat loop to evaluate either the contents of several fields, or a comma delimitered list of variables, and strip any blank spaces that may or may not exist from before and after the contents. To ready the data for insertion into a database. I am having an issue with data being entered with spaces before of after the words, and then not showing up in a data query because of that. I usualy insert the datra from several fields into a list such as var1,var2,var3, etc before entering it into a database. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AVI versus MOV in standalones - Apple Quicktime regulations
I'm creating Rev standalones containing movies, for both Mac and Windows, to be distributed on CDs. I create the Rev standalones on a Mac, incorporating Quicktime movies. Since many Windows users do not have Quicktime installed on their computers, I include a Quicktime installer on the CD, but this seems to be unnecessary for Macs, since Macs come with Quicktime preinstalled. My question is this: Apple requires that they receive an application for permission to include their Quicktime installer, and they also require placement of their Quicktime logo on the CD label if a Quicktime installer is included. Can all of this be avoided, including the necessity of including the Quicktime installer, by making the Windows version of the standalones using AVI format? Do all Windows computers come with AVI reading capabilities preinstalled? Would there be any drawback to using AVI rather than MOV format? Thanks. Steve Goldberg www.medmaster.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Use of Flash animations in Revolution
I see that one can import Flash animation .swf files into the Rev Quicktime player. However, is it also possible to import a Flash game with all its interactivity as well? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rounded Corners for images?
The now defunct program mTropolis had a simple method for creating rounded corners on images. One simply placed the mTropolis graphic icon on the image and checked off the round rectangle option; the image instantly changed to one with rounded corners. I used this extensively for images and it added a nice alternative to the routine sharp rectangle appearance. I don't know how the mTropolis developers programmed this, but it would be a nice option to add, if feasible, to Revolution. Steve Goldberg www.medmaster.net Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Save command - what does it really do?
I've noticed that when I issue the script Save this stack that the stack saves very quickly. However, when using Command/S (on my Mac) a Saving... window appears and the saving process takes a long time. Can someone clarify the difference between Save this stack and Command/S? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions
Perhaps someone can clarify whether the Universal Binary version of Rev standalones will work on all versions of OS X or only on OS 10.3.9 and above. There seems to be a difference of opinion in the forum. If Universal Binary will work on all versions of OS X, then Universal Binary would appear to be the only standalone for OS X and Intel that one needs to include in distributing a built program.I tried researching it but could not find specific reference to requiring as high as OS 10.3.9. I'll try to test it on an older computer. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 2.7.4 questions about building standalones
I just upgraded from Rev 2.7.1 to 2.7.4 and am impressed by the ability to build for so many Macs, including Intels, but am a bit confused by the wealth of options: On the Standalone settings, one is given the options to build for a. Mac OS (Classic, for which there is a notation, Build for Mac OS Classic will be available in 2.7.x) b. Mac OSX (Universal) c. Mac OSX (Power PC only) d. Mac OSX (Intel only) e. Windows Once the application is built, the folders have the titles: a. Mac OSX (which I assume refers to Universal) b. Mac OSX PowerPC-32 (which I assume refers to Power PC only) c. Mac OSX x86-32 (which I assume refers to Intel only, since I do not have an Intel Mac and it won't open on my computer) d. Windows My question is this. If the Universal version will work both on Intel Mac computers as well as non-Intel Mac OS X computers, what would be the advantage of including the Power PC only or Intel only versions when distributing one's application, since the Universal version would seem to work on both kinds of computers? While one could just take a shotgun approach and distribute all the versions, it would take up less CD space to include only those that are necessary. So perhaps one could just distribute the Universal version (not the Power PC only or Intel only versions) since it would work on Power PC and Intel Macs; or one could distribute just the Power PC only and Intel only versions, without including the Universal version. Is it necessary to include all the options when distributing a built application? Perhaps someone can enlighten me further on this. Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions
Regarding which of the standalone versions to include in distributing one's built applications, please correct me if my logic is wrong here: a. I assume that very few Mac users have operating systems that are earlier than OS X, so one does not have to be so concerned about distributing for OS 9 (or Classic). b. Many people, though, may have OSX versions less than 3.9, so distributing an application in Universal Binary would not help these users, if Universal Binary requires OS X.3.9 or higher. One would then have to also include PowerPC-only (for all versions of OSX) and Intel-only (for optimal performance on Intel) versions to reach most users. c. Perhaps the ideal way of distributing might be a combination of PowerPC-only and Intel-only versions. That should cover all PowerPC versions as well as Intel. It would not be necessary to include the Universal Binary version. Does this logic make sense? Steve Goldberg In a message dated 10/1/06 2:45:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the Universal version will work both on Intel Mac computers as well as non-Intel Mac OS X computers, what would be the advantage of including the Power PC only or Intel only versions when distributing one's application, since the Universal version would seem to work on both kinds of computers? One reason might be filesize. Universal apps are twice as big. The other is, running universal apps requires Os X.3.9 or higher, so if you want to support X.2 or smaller you need a power PC only compile. I am happy to have all options, as Universal Binary is the buzzword du jour when releasing new Mac apps at the moment. Many people over here think, if it is no universal binary, it is not a good app. Therefore Intel only is out of the game for me for a while, but might be reasonable if I want to release an app. that is very resource hungry and requires a modern computer to work reliably. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
quicktime question
Regarding mp4 playback, I understand (at least in Rev 2.7.1 which I'm using) that mp4 has to be incorporated as a referenced control rather than an imported control as mp4 does not import well, at least in 2.7.1. Assuming that the movie is used as a referenced control, how can one build the stack as a universal binary or Intel-only standalone? Is this a feature of later versions of Revolution? Steve Goldberg In a message dated 9/30/06 2:45:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A quick question - I have a QuickTime mp4 - which plays fine in QuickTime Player - but with Rev o the intel PowerMac I have here - the fan goes really crazy and the film stutters a bit. Whats the low down on the difference in getting QuickTime to play movies from QuickTime Player or Rev? Are you playing this through a standalone or the Rev IDE? Because if it's a standalone, you'll have to build it as a Universal Binary or Intel Only standalone otherwise QuickTime will be interpreted through the Rosetta interpreter and will slow down QT playback... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quicktime question
Lately I've been incorporating Quicktime mp4 movies into my Rev standalones. When distributing the standalones to others, I've included the Quicktime Player installer, in case they do not have Quicktime (especially Windows users). If they forget to install Quicktime, the movie instead appears as a blank space. My question is as follows: Is there some way, if the user forgets to install Quicktime, that I can have a message in the blank space indicating that the user should install Quicktime? It would be sort similar to what developers do on a web page when a picture doesn't appear; instead there is text explaining what the subject of the picture is. I tried putting a field over the Quicktime movie area with text in it. However, the blank Quicktime box remains layered over the text. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quicktime question
Thanks Phil (and Ian Wood and Mark Schonewille)! Knowing that there is no Quicktime version on someone's computer will enable the script to hide the player and see the underlying message. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 9/29/06 2:45:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Quicktime question To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Steve - You can check the QTVersion before starting the player. If the QTVersion = 0.0, QT is not installed. Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately I've been incorporating Quicktime mp4 movies into my Rev standalones. When distributing the standalones to others, I've included the Quicktime Player installer, in case they do not have Quicktime (especially Windows users). If they forget to install Quicktime, the movie instead appears as a blank space. My question is as follows: Is there some way, if the user forgets to install Quicktime, that I can have a message in the blank space indicating that the user should install Quicktime? It would be sort similar to what developers do on a web page when a picture doesn't appear; instead there is text explaining what the subject of the picture is. I tried putting a field over the Quicktime movie area with text in it. However, the blank Quicktime box remains layered over the text. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 2.5.0
I'm confused. I've just received (unsolicited) Revolution in a CD case titled Version 2.5.0 for Macintosh Classic, OS X, and Windows. I thought it was an update, but now that I think of it, that's an earlier version. Looking at the ReadMe file it does indeed appear to refer to version 2.5. Why would Revolution send this out? Has it been shipped in error? I wonder if anyone else has received this version recently? Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
REv 2.5.0
Does anyone have any preliminary impressions about the reliability of Revolution 2.5.0? I received this update, but I've been reluctant to install it and apply it to all my stacks without getting some feedback first from the group as to whether or not there are any problems. Any thoughts? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quicktime VR, 3D, and Revolution
I've used both Bryce and Vue to create quicktime VR 3D scenes. They create the QTVR instantly, but at the expense of having significant distortion when the scene is rotated while viewing. Another way is to photograph the scene within Bryce or Vue taking still pictures at 60 degree rotations and stitching them together in a stitching program. I've used Apple's Quicktime VR Authoring Studio to do this, but am planning to switch to Stitcher, which I understand can make spherical QTVR 3D scenes. Trevore Devore is the real expert in this media though. By the way, it would be well worth a look at Chipp Walters 3D work on http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/vuelab/FutureLab.htm, showing modeling that he did just with the Vue program. It's pretty amazing being able to do that just with the simple primitives that the Vue program provides (the man is talented). Such scenes, whether as still images or QTVRs, can easily be imported into Revolution. Steve Goldberg www.medmaster.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quicktime 3D
In a message dated 7/11/06 2:28:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aha. Then it is likely they use QuickTime VR. Any idea what else can be used to draw dynamically a 3D terrain, or several planes with textures loaded from images, or 3D piece of something in Rev Studio? I will still try to dig in QuickTime VR format. It mentions possibility to embed true 3D objects within prerendered scenes in their VR. Otherwise VRML and AltBrowser seem the only possibility... But how can I be sure that Cortona VRML client will load in AltBrowser? If AltBrowser embeds MS Explorer on Windows or Mozilla on other systems, then it is possible... Otherwise, I think, it is not, because Cortona VRML plugin is browser-specific. Or am I wrong here? The 3D images associated with Quicktime VR are not created within Revolution. They are created with a 3D modeling program, such as Vue. Within Vue one, after setting up a 3D scene, one can then create the Quicktime VR, which can then be imported into Revolution. Steve Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.medmaster.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Scripter's handbook
In a message dated 7/7/06 2:26:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed, I have been saving a number of scripts that participants in this panel have suggested over the past two years and found them helpful in a number of different projects. It is sort of like having a collection of clip art objects that one can combine to create different works of art. I like the analogy! You may like to try the Scripter's Scrapbook which provides all the point-and-click tools needed to maintain and grow your own collection of such items... www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk.htm Thanks for the tip. I've downloaded the Scripter's handbook at it looks great! Steve Goldberg www.medmaster.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Dependence on programming experts
Regarding Revolution and object-oriented programming, it seems to me that Revolution, which I have been actively using for the past two years, does do that since one can save useful scripts (sometimes long, complex ones) from one application and apply in another without having to start from scratch. Indeed, I have been saving a number of scripts that participants in this panel have suggested over the past two years and found them helpful in a number of different projects. It is sort of like having a collection of clip art objects that one can combine to create different works of art. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Possible new book titles
Dan, One thing I think is needed is a thorough explanation of all the checkboxes and fields in the various property inspectors. I've been using Revolution for two years now and am still unsure about the uses of a number of items in the Property Inspectors, which do not appear to be well-documented in the user guide. It think such explanation should make it easier for new users to get into Revolution and also give more experienced users added abilities. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 7/4/06 2:25:46 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to produce a SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that fundamental changes in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in votes, feedback, other suggestions, etc. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Looping in QT movies
Thanks Ken, Your script works. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 7/2/06 12:35:48 AM, Ken Ray writes: on mouseUp set the playrate of player 1 to 1 play player 1 CheckPlayer end mouseUp on CheckPlayer if the playRate of player 1 is 1 then if the currentTime of player 1 is (the duration of player 1) then set the playRate of player 1 to -1 play player 1 end if else if the currentTime of player 1 is 0 then set the playRate of player 1 to 1 play player 1 end if end if if the optionKey is not down then -- when you want it to stop send CheckPlayer to me in 100 milliseconds end if end CheckPlayer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Looping in quicktime movies
Can someone suggest a good way of making a quicktime movie play continuously back and forth rather than starting from the beginning with each loop? This would be useful in creating a realistic continuous water wave motion that does not loop and jerk back to the beginning of the movie when the movie ends. Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Is there any easy way to...
One way to access a title bar that is hidden under the menubar is to type Hide menubar in the message box, move the title bar and then type Show menubar. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 6/29/06 2:25:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any easy way to fix the totally aggravating behavior of Rev 2.7.2 on a Duo Mini Mac which is single monitor, from moving palettes up under the Mac menubar after relaunching Rev? The tools and inspector stack title bars become unreachable thus unmoveable. Yes, I can go to the preferences, select show UI in app browser, look down the list to find the stack name to use, then type in the message box set the top of stack to 100 It seems that if the palette was slightly off the screen when quitting Rev or it crashes (which was the last occurrence), things get very aggravating. Hope there is a simple answer. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The qtIdleRate
On rechecking, I was using Rev 2.7.0 to test the stack, rather than 2.7.1. The qtIdleRate appears in 2.7.1, exactly as you say. I love this forum! Thanks for the really helpful advice, Trevor. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 6/26/06 12:59:43 PM, Trevor Devore writes: The engine change log for 2.7.1 says that qtIdleRate was added as a new feature in that release: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
QT jerkiness
Thanks Trevor, Your suggestion immediately corrected the problem of jerkiness to QTVR motion. The only small change I needed to make in the script is to use idleRate rather than QTidleRate since rev 2.7.1, which I am using, does not appear to have a global property for QTidleRate and gives an error message when that form is used. Is QTidleRate perhaps found in 2.7.2? Thanks very much. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 6/24/06 2:23:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Message: 13 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:42:18 -0700 From: Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jerkiness to QTVR presentation in Revolution To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 23, 2006, at 10:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that when a Quicktime VR movie is played through Apple's Quicktime player the motion around 360 degrees is smooth. However, the same movie shown through Revolution's player results in a jerky stepping motion. Any suggestions? Thanks. What version of Rev are you using? In 2.7 there is a qtIdleRate global property. It defaults to 50. For QTVR you might want to try something like 10. You could put something like this in your player object. local sDefaultIdleRate on mouseDown put the qtIdleRate into sDefaultIdleRate set the qtIdleRate to 10 end mouseDown on mouseUp set the qtIdleRate to sDefaultIdleRate end mouseUp -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Jerkiness to QTVR presentation in Revolution
I've noticed that when a Quicktime VR movie is played through Apple's Quicktime player the motion around 360 degrees is smooth. However, the same movie shown through Revolution's player results in a jerky stepping motion. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with declaring local variables
Yes, Malte. You are absolutely right. By unchecking variable checking in the preferences, the scripting no longer requires me to declare local variables before using them. Thanks! Steve Goldberg In a message dated 6/7/06 2:20:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you accidently checked variable checking in the preferences- Script editor? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Creating perfect cursors in Revolution
For the past two years I've benefited greatly from advice given through this forum, so I'd like to give something back in return. Creating cursors in Revolution has been problematic. Despite creating 16x16 images in black and white, sometimes the cursors do not show up correctly on both platforms. Sometimes there is only a white square or a black filled-in image. The following method shows how to produce perfect cursors every time for both Macintosh and Windows (qualifier: I used Mac OS X, Revolution 2.7 and Photoshop 7.0 to create them, and I'm not sure how other versions would work): Directions for making cursors in Revolution: 1. Open Photoshop. Name the image, Mode being RGB color, Background Transparent, and width and height 16 pixels. 2. Change Image/Mode to Indexed Color, using the defaults for indexed color (Palette: Exact; Forced: Web; Transparency checked; Matte: none) 3. With image maximally magnified, used the pencil tool to insert black or white pixels. Enclosed areas can be filled with white or black if desired and pixels can be erased if desired. 4. Save as PNG. 5. Bring the PNG image into Revolution and note it's ID number (it may be 1003 for instance). 6. In the script to call the cursor write: on mouseUp set lockcursor to true set the cursor to 1003 -- if that's the ID number end mouseUp It is interesting that sometimes there can two identical pictures in Photoshop, one of which will show up cursors correctly and the other will show up only a white square or a black filled image, even though all the parameters in Photoshop seem to be the same!! I don't know why this should be the case but it implies that there is something different about the two images even if not apparent. This can be easily corrected either by creating a new Photoshop 16x16 document, carefully duplicating the pixels of the defective image, or more simply, just pasting the defective image into the new Photoshop document. The cursors should then appear fine. I plan to attend the Revolution conference next week in Monterey and will bring 25 cursors I've created for those interested in using them. Perhaps they might be incorporated into a future version of Revolution. Steve Goldberg President, MedMaster Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www. medmaster.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Saving information in Revolution
Saving information in Revolution is simple. While data cannot be saved to a standalone mainstack, it can be saved to a standalone's substack as follows: 1. In the standalone setting, under Stacks check off Move substacks into individual stackfiles 2. Put Save this stack into the scripting on quitting. The data in the substack will then be saved. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
More cursors for Revolution?
Can anyone suggest how to increase the inventory of cursors in Revolution? I have not had much success in trying to do this through creating new images. They don't seem to show up correctly. It would be particularly helpful to have such standard cursors as hand left, hand right, hand outstretched, hand closed, magnifying glass, and skull and cross bones, particularly in the development of games. Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can one expand the width of a cell in a table field?
Is there a way to expand the width of cells within a table field? I did not see a description of the controls for the table field in the Rev documentation. Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem building standalones with substacks in Rev 2.7
Recently, using Revolution 2.7 (I'm not sure if the problem is related to the version or something else) on my Mac running OS X, I have noted the following problem in trying to build a standalone: I first built a main stack, then decided that since I wanted to save data in the standalone, created a substack to it, and in the Standalone Application setting, checked off Move substacks into individual stack files. The standalone built fine. However, when I went back and checked off the Create folder for stackfiles option (naming the folder data) the standalone would not build, instead delivering an error message. The strange thing is that I went back and unchecked the Create folder for stackfiles option and the program would still not build a standalone. I've repeated this several times to be sure that this is where the problem arose. Can anyone suggest what may be the problem? I've made sure to name the stack, substack, and folder differently. Perhaps it may relate to the fact that I originally created two mainstacks, and then set one stack as the main stack through the command set the mainstack of stack 'B' to 'A' but I have not experienced this difficulty before in rev 2.6 using the same command. Again, the problem may not relate to the version, but to something I'm doing wrong. In addition, I've note that under rev 2.7, when one builds a standalone, there is a separate folder created in the Windows folder titled Externals. What is that for? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 30, Issue 36
In a message dated 3/15/06 12:34:17 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: I was wondering if anyone has used Revolution in creating 1. A multiple choice quiz stack? 2. A multimedia training stack ? My interest is in the look and feel from the user experience and how self-contained training modules show flow. I have all the content material for several modules but lack the experience on the educational side in how best design the courses and test the users. I am presently converting all the educational CDs produced by MedMaster (www.medmaster.net) from their original format (mTropolis) to Revolution. mTropolis, a very useful program which is now essentially defunct in view of its incompatibility with the new Intel Macs, enabled rapid development of educational materials. However, I am finding by comparison that Revolution is better, allowing much more rapid development in view of its powerful scripting language. The key is to first decide what kind of format you want in the educational program, which may differ depending on the educational level of the students and the topic of the course. It would first help to explore existing educational programs in your field of interest, whether or not they are in computerized or written format. Once you have decided on what you want to accomplish, the likelihood is that you will be able to do it in Revolution. I'll be happy to send you a sample of one or more of the programs I've done. These include: 1. Neurologic localization - a program designed to instantly point graphically to the areas of the nervous system involved in neurologic deficits. Teaches the user how to make diagnoses. Contains a laboratory course in neuroanatomy. (No quiz questions) 2. Ophthalmology atlas - teaches ophthalmic examination, including an atlas of ophthalmologic diseases (no scoring) 3. Radiology atlas of ophthalmologic diseases - quizzes the student on radiologic images (no scoring) 4. Cardiology - teaches heart sounds, EKGs, x-rays, echocardiography, along with a series of quiz questions (no scoring) 4. Review for the Medical Board exams - I'm working on several Board exams. Each CD includes 1000+ questions, with scoring. Frankly, I'm amazed at the relative ease of doing this in Revolution. One of the really nice things about Revolution is the ease of connecting from the CD program to Internet sites, which should prove increasingly important in future educational programs. I've taught medical students for 25 years, which may involve a different educational approach than other audiences. So the audience and the subject may influence the design. Stephen Goldberg, MD President, MedMaster Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.medmaster.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Educational stacks
In a message dated 3/15/06 12:34:17 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: I was wondering if anyone has used Revolution in creating 1. A multiple choice quiz stack? 2. A multimedia training stack ? My interest is in the look and feel from the user experience and how self-contained training modules show flow. I have all the content material for several modules but lack the experience on the educational side in how best design the courses and test the users. I am presently converting all the educational CDs produced by MedMaster (www.medmaster.net) from their original format (mTropolis) to Revolution. mTropolis, a very useful program which is now essentially defunct in view of its incompatibility with the new Intel Macs, enabled rapid development of educational materials. However, I am finding by comparison that Revolution is better, allowing much more rapid development in view of its powerful scripting language. The key is to first decide what kind of format you want in the educational program, which may differ depending on the educational level of the students and the topic of the course. It would first help to explore existing educational programs in your field of interest, whether or not they are in computerized or written format. Once you have decided on what you want to accomplish, the likelihood is that you will be able to do it in Revolution. I'll be happy to send you a sample of one or more of the programs I've done. These include: 1. Neurologic localization - a program designed to instantly point graphically to the areas of the nervous system involved in neurologic deficits. Teaches the user how to make diagnoses. Contains a laboratory course in neuroanatomy. (No quiz questions) 2. Ophthalmology atlas - teaches ophthalmic examination, including an atlas of ophthalmologic diseases (no scoring) 3. Radiology atlas of ophthalmologic diseases - quizzes the student on radiologic images (no scoring) 4. Cardiology - teaches heart sounds, EKGs, x-rays, echocardiography, along with a series of quiz questions (no scoring) 4. Review for the Medical Board exams - I'm working on several Board exams. Each CD includes 1000+ questions, with scoring. Frankly, I'm amazed at the relative ease of doing this in Revolution. One of the really nice things about Revolution is the ease of connecting from the CD program to Internet sites, which should prove increasingly important in future educational programs. I've taught medical students for 25 years, which may involve a different educational approach than other audiences. So the audience and the subject may influence the design. Stephen Goldberg, MD President, MedMaster Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.medmaster.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can't delete standalone in Windows
Recently I've noted a problem on building standalones (on my Mac OS X using Rev 2.7) and moving them to Windows. While the standalones work on Windows, if I try to move them to the trash in Windows, I get a message: Cannot delete (the program). Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file in not currently in use. The problem is that the file is not in use, I have about 200gb of disk space, there is no password needed to access the computer, and I do not have this problem with other kinds of files. The only way I can trash the files is to restart the computer and try again. I do not know if this is a problem with Revolution or with my Windows computer. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't delete standalone in Windows
Regarding the inability to trash certain standalones that are transferred from Mac to Windows, it does appear that I can trash the standalone in Windows using control-alt-delete. But to prevent the problem in the first place, you are correct, Scott, that quitting the program through the Quit command, rather than the close box in the titlebar prevents the problem. Thus, the solution seems to be to not build in a close box in the standalone titlebar. Thanks Scott. I love this group. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 3/14/06 5:35:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Can't delete standalone in Windows To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Cannot delete (the program). Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file in not currently in use. Use the CTRL + Delete key. You'll see your app running there still. You can close it from there. To avoid this be sure to implicitly call Quit in the application when closing down. Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution 2.7 and new Intel Macs
I just got back from my local Mac store where they were demonstrating the new Intel Macs and tested a number of Rev standlalones I built using Rev 2.7 on my Mac OS X system. I am pleased to report that all the standalones worked fine, including those with movies, sounds and hundreds of cards. (I couldn't test unbuilt stacks, though, since I don't as yet have the player for 2.7.) Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cursor not showing up in standalone
I've tried photocopying the magGlass cursor (black and white 16x16 pixel) and then setting the cursor to the ID of the image, but on my computer (OS X Revolution Studio version 2.7) I still only get a white outline, rather than the graphic. If you are right, Jacquie, that this may be a bug to be fixed in the next update, I'll wait. In the meantime I'm using a workaround. I'm trying to have the user do a mousedown over a small round graphic that indicates the spot to listen to the patient's heart. Once the mouse is down, I wanted the cursor to change to a small stethescope (which looks like the magnifying glass) and then hear the heart sound. Since I can't get the cursor to change to the magnifying glass (Perhaps I've misunderstood Chipp) I can at least issue the command to set the showname of the graphic to true, the name now being X (as in X marks the spot) letting the user know s/he has correctly clicked at the right spot. The X appears with mousedown and disappears (showname false) on mouseUp. Thanks. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 3/4/06 1:19:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Steve, I manually copy the cursor to my stacks and assign it an ID I know won't conflict. Then I do: set cursor to the id of img magGlass hth, chipp This sounds like the same bug in the standalone builder that prevented copying externals to a standalone. It's been fixed for the next update. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this is a simple matter and I'm just overlooking the obvious: I'd like the cursor to change to a magnifying glass when the mouse is down, so I've written: on mouseDown set cursor to 378 set lockcursor true end mouseDown This works fine before the standalone. But after the standalone, the cursor does not show up either on the Mac or Windows version (I'm developing on a Mac OS X). I've also checked off Select inclusions for the standalone application and Cursors in the General Standalone Application Settings. Am I missing something? Thanks very much. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
First color, second color third color, etc
I have been puzzled by the color feature in the object inspector for some of the objects (e.g. images) which list the options of First color, second color, third color etc. What does this do? If I check off a color, nothing happens and the option disappears on leaving the object inspector. Perhaps someone can clarify this. Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cursor not showing up in standalone
I hope this is a simple matter and I'm just overlooking the obvious: I'd like the cursor to change to a magnifying glass when the mouse is down, so I've written: on mouseDown set cursor to 378 set lockcursor true end mouseDown This works fine before the standalone. But after the standalone, the cursor does not show up either on the Mac or Windows version (I'm developing on a Mac OS X). I've also checked off Select inclusions for the standalone application and Cursors in the General Standalone Application Settings. Am I missing something? Thanks very much. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with Pass command
Perhaps someone can help with the following problem I have involving the pass command. I have a button that performs a certain action. A field (it could also be another button) overlies the button. I'd like to arrange so that if I click on the field the message passes through it to the button. How can I do this? I've set the locktext of the field to true and had either no script associated with the field or inserted the following script: on mouseUp pass mouseUp end mouseUp Nothing happens though. How can I get the button to react? Thanks very much. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Opening other applications from within Revolution
I have an Excel file on my hard drive that I would like to access from within revolution (just like I can access the Internet through RevGoUrl). What command can issue to open and see the file? I am having some trouble trying to do this through the open or open file commands. Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Opening other applications from within Revolution
Hi Phil, No, I'm not interested in importing data from the Excel sheet into Rev, just opening an existing Excel application from a command in Rev. I still can't seem to do this. I've put the Excel file (and also the Excel application) into the same folder as the Revolution stack and just issued the command (let's say the Excel file is titled Sample.xls): launch Sample.xls with Microsoft Excel or launch Sample.xls with Excel but nothing happens Am I using the wrong syntax, or can one only do this from a standalone Rev program? Thanks. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 2/8/06 4:33:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After reading Mathewson's post and re-reading yours, Steve, I'm guessing I mis-answered earlier. You would rather get spreadsheet data out of the spreadsheet and into Rev, right? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Copyright issues with Google searches
If anyone would like have a look at the program I wrote in Revolution, called MedSearcher, let me know and I'll have a copy emailed to you for your opinion as to any copyright issues. I've had not difficulty using it without registering an ID. As far as I can tell, anyone who uses the program to do an Internet search should have no difficulty using it from their computer without any kind of ID registration. The program actually provides Revolution's search ability to automatically search some 30 different medical search engines, including general search engines such as Google, MSN, and Yahoo. Just let me know your email and whether you would like to see the program in Mac or Windows format and I'll send it. Please do not share it with others, as the copyright issue for this search mechanism is still being determined, so it is only for evaluation by this forum. Thanks. Steve Goldberg, President MedMaster Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.medmaster.net In a message dated 2/1/06 5:09:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would they know that the application refers to my particular ID? Steve Goldberg The ID is sent with each query. Unless you require your users to register their own Google API ID (as some apps have done I think), then your ID would have to be hardcoded in the app, or it wouldn't work. Martin Baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Copyright issues with Revolution searches
I'm having a copyright attorney check out the issue and will get back to the group with an opinion. Basically the question involves the difference between issuing a command like: REvGoURL http://images.google.com/; which only goes to the google/images page, where the user can type in any search words s/he pleases e.g. dogs, versus: http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10hl=enlr=ie=ISO-8859-1; q=dogs where Revolution goes to the Google/image site and automatically does the search. Personally (I'm not a lawyer), I can't think of a problem with just directing the user to the Google/image site from a revolution application, just as one can do the same from any website, whereupon the user can type in any search words s/he pleases. The issue is with doing the automatic search. On the one hand, it's not doing anything much different from going to the Google/Image page and pasting in the search words for the user. I can see where some search engines might object to this automaticity since it bypasses their home page, where they want the user to see their advertising. Google, though doesn't have any advertising on their search page. Nonetheless, I've sent in an application to Google for the right to use the automatic search engine in a Rev application and I'll let the group know the result, as well as the lawyer's opinion. Regarding being limited to a certain number of queries/day, how can Google keep track of a particular program that is distributed on different people's computers? I can see how they might keep track of the number of queries from a single computer, but how can they know that 1000 people are using a particular Revolution application on their computers to do a search? How would they know that the application refers to my particular ID? Steve Goldberg In a message dated 1/31/06 10:43:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just went to this link to check it out. You are only allowed 1000 queries per day, and the API is only for Non-Commercial use only. But wait - it gets worse. Actually, it's *your id* that is limited to a certain number of queries per day. If you create and distribute an app then every time that app gets used it counts against your id. Worse yet, once you hit the limit any further use by *any* user will be firewalled. And your app gets the blame. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can one permanentaly change a text field's case to capitals?
Thanks to Ken Ray for the script: on keyDown pKey put toUpper(pKey) into the selection end keyDown It works like a charm to insure that only capital letters are typed into a field. This is a forum full of gurus. Thanks! Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can one permanentaly change a text field's case to capitals?
Does anyone know if there is a way to change the type in a field to capital letters and keep it that way as a property whenever one types into the field? I know that the Text Formatting option of a text field has a Change Case option to change the text into capital letters during development. However, can one permanently set this as a field's property so that whenever one types in the field it will type as capital letters? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can the same stack be modified on both Mac and Windows computers?
I'm creating a Revolution stack on the Macintosh and would like to transfer the same stack and substack (not built as a standalone) to my Windows computer. Can I continue to modify the stack on Windows using the Windows version of Revolution? I presume that I will have to purchase the Windows version of Revolution, but before doing so, would like to be sure if the same stack can be modified on either computer. Thanks very much to all for great advice. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Copyright issue with RevGoURL commands?
Does anyone know if there is a copyright issue with using the powerful RevGoURL command to access websites using known Internet search engines? For instance, if one is interested in dogs one can access Google simply by writing: RevGoURL http://www.google.com; or RevGoURL http://www.images.google.com; (to see pictures) and then typing in dogs in Google's search field. I don't imagine there is any difficulty with that. However, what if one extended it to actually incorporate Google's search script in the RevGoURL command, namely: RevGoURL http://www.images.google.com/images?svnum=10hl=enlr=; ie=ISO-8859-1q=dogs It doesn't download anything, just using Google's search engine from within Rev. Does anyone have any information as to whether or not there are any copyright issues? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Copyright issues with RevGoURL commands
In writing a Rev command such as: RevGoURL http://www.google.com/search?q=dogs; (for literature) or RevGoURL http://www.images.google.com/images?svnum=10hl=enlr=; ie=ISO-8859-1q=dogs (for images) it seems to me that what one is really doing is the equivalent of automatically typing in the searchword dogs into Google's search field on the Google home page and then pressing Return. Since Google does not have any advertising on its home page www.google.com or www.images.google.com, it would seem that Google should not lose any advertising by doing the automation. Any advertising should appear as it usually does going through Google's home page. So I am wondering if there would be a copyright restriction in the case where no advertising money is lost by Google. I'm planning to consult with a copyright attorney for more information, but if anyone has any more thoughts, I'd certainly like to hear. Thanks to Richard Gaskin and Peter Evensen for the helpful comments. Steve Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if there is a copyright issue with using the powerful RevGoURL command to access websites using known Internet search engines? For instance, if one is interested in dogs one can access Google simply by writing: It's not so much a copyright concern as one of lost revenue. Search engine sites make their money from advertising, and automated searches nullify the value of such advertising. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Transporting icons to Windows
I have iconographer, but a simple question: After transferring the .ico graphic to the Windows hard drive, how do you actually incorporate the .ico graphic into the Revolution built application? If I create a Shortcut to the Rev application in Windows, the Properties window of the shortcut does allow for changing the shortcut icon, but I don't see how to add the icon to the main Rev application. Any suggestion? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Transporting icons to Windows
Thanks Xavier. Works beautifully and much simpler than I thought. Wierdly, I think you anwered my question before I even posted it. I love this group. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 1/3/06 10:19:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:Transporting icons to Windows To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Steve, in the application building options you'll find the windows icon path field... just insert the path to the icons there... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/01/2006 14:14:39: I have iconographer, but a simple question: After transferring the .ico graphic to the Windows hard drive, how do you actually incorporate the .ico graphic into the Revolution built application? If I create a Shortcut to the Rev application in Windows, the Properties window of the shortcut does allow for changing the shortcut icon, but I don't see how to add the icon to the main Rev application. Any suggestion? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with Import As Control for videoclips
First, much thanks to Malte Brill for his suggestion that immediately resolved the problem with importing referenced controls of mpeg-4 movies. I have a different problem, though, with importing mpeg-4 using Import As Control: After importing the mpeg-4 movie using Import As Control, it is listed clearly under VideoClips both as to name and ID number. However, on issuing a command, e.g., Play videoclip ID 1003 The only thing I get is a very thick black vertical line through the center of the card. Again, am I doing something wrong here? Any suggestions? Thanks very much. I really appreciate this forum. It's clarified a lot over the past year. Happy New Year to all. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 12/31/05 9:43:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with inserting videos into Revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Steve, However, in Revolution 2.6.1, I can't import mpeg-4 movies that way since the movie title appears greyed out when trying to import it. try switching from Quicktime movies to all files in the dialogue box that appears. It seems it is an answer file with type dialogue box that sets the filename of the player. All the best and happy new year, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with stack dimensions
Thanks to everyone for the helpful suggestions. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with stack dimensions
What are the optimal Revolution stack dimensions to fill a screen set at 1024x768 resolution (I'm using Mac OSX to develop)? Setting the stack dimensions to 1024x768 seems too big, because the titlebar adds extra space on Windows, and the dock gets in the way on Macintosh. It would seem that one would have to set the stack dimensions to less than 1024x768. But what dimensions are optimal? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with inserting videos into Revolution
Sorry if this subject may have been discussed before. I'm new to videos on Rev and have noted the following difference between Revolution 2.5.1 and 2.6.1 on my Macintosh OS X: In Revolution 2.5.1, I can import mpeg-4 movies as a referenced control. In the quicktime player Property Inspector I can bring the movie into Rev via the Source box. However, in Revolution 2.6.1, I can't import mpeg-4 movies that way since the movie title appears greyed out when trying to import it. Is this a problem with Revolution 2.6.1, or am I simply doing something wrong? Thanks very much -- and Happy New Year to all. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Jump on going from stack to substack
I've noticed that when going from one card in the main stack to another card in the same stack the transition is smooth. However, when going from the main stack to a card in a substack there is a brief flash showing one stack closing and the other opening. This does not seem to be resolved by setting the lockscreen to true. The nature of the script is as follows: on mouseUp go to card 2 of stack gross -- from stack Pathology museum close stack Pathology museum -- so the two stacks cannot both exist on the screen if the user moves a stack around end mouseUp It's not a major problem, but would look better without the jump. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Jump on going from stack to substack
Yes, thanks for the suggestion. Your script alteration eliminates the jumping flash from mainstack to substack. Can you suggest how to eliminate the jump on returning from the substack to the mainstack? Thanks very much. Steve Goldberg From: Bj?rnke von Gierke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jump on going from stack to substack To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed How does go to card 2 of stack gross in stack Pathology museum suit you? On Dec 22 2005, at 14:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that when going from one card in the main stack to another card in the same stack the transition is smooth. However, when going from the main stack to a card in a substack there is a brief flash showing one stack closing and the other opening. This does not seem to be resolved by setting the lockscreen to true. The nature of the script is as follows: on mouseUp go to card 2 of stack gross -- from stack Pathology museum close stack Pathology museum -- so the two stacks cannot both exist on the screen if the user moves a stack around end mouseUp It's not a major problem, but would look better without the jump. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Is there a way to determine and control screen resolution in RR?
Back again, with thanks, to tap the brains of the RR experts once more: I have created a Revolution application (on Macintosh) that calls for a screen size close to 1024x768. Since some users (Mac or Windows) may have their monitors set to less than that, I am concerned that the stacks may be too big to fit their monitors. While I can issue a ReadMe note telling users how to reset their screen resolution, is there a way of automatically doing this in Revolution? I.e., can Revolution determine a user's screen resolution and alert them to increase it, or, better, can Revolution change the user's screen resolution and then convert back to the original resolution when the program closes? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is there a way to determine and control screen resolution in RR?
Thanks Klaus and Ken for the great suggestions. Steve Goldberg Back again, with thanks, to tap the brains of the RR experts once more: I have created a Revolution application (on Macintosh) that calls for a screen size close to 1024x768. Since some users (Mac or Windows) may have their monitors set to less than that, I am concerned that the stacks may be too big to fit their monitors. While I can issue a ReadMe note telling users how to reset their screen resolution, is there a way of automatically doing this in Revolution? I.e., can Revolution determine a user's screen resolution and alert them to increase it, or, better, can Revolution change the user's screen resolution and then convert back to the original resolution when the program closes? Thanks. you can check the current screen resolution by querying the screenrect. I do this all the time in my preopenstack handlers. But you cannot change the resolution from within Revolution, sorry. Well, you can do this on the Mac (OS X) using Lynn Pye's 'cscreen' command line app: http://www.pyehouse.com/lynn/cscreen.dmg (To get info on how to use it, put it somehwere like your home directory, open Terminal, and type ~/cscreen -h and hit return).) It also lets you get the current depth, width, height and refresh rate of each connected monitor, and allows you t ochange any of these things including which display has the menubar. For Windows, you can check out the third-party command line executable MultiRes, Resolution Changer, or VidRes at: http://www.entechtaiwan.com/files/multires.exe http://www.myitforum.com/inc/upload/1365Vidchng.zip http://www.jddesign.co.uk/ (For more information, see http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.scripting/m sg/423d3f435989d049) HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with the correct cursor showing up
Thanks, Jacquie - Your solution worked perfectly. You are the true master of the Standalone Settings (among other things). Steve Goldberg In a message dated 11/29/05 4:47:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried using cursor ID 28 instead of hand but the problem persists. I found time to do a test. Setting the cursor to hand works okay for me in a standalone as long as I make sure to include the cursors in the standalone settings dialog before building. Choose Standalone settings from the File menu, uncheck the default option that automtically looks for resources to include, and instead manually include the ones you need. Make sure the cursors checkbox is selected, since it isn't checked by default. Also include any other libraries or dialogs you need from the two scrolling fields, then build the app. You shouldn't have any problems if you do it this way. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with the correct cursor showing up
I tried using cursor ID 28 instead of hand but the problem persists. The watch cursor still shows up instead of hand in the standalone. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm using Mac OS 10.3.9 and revolution 2.6.1. Temporarily I'm trying to work around the problem by hiliting the border of the object when the cursor is over it, rather than changing the cursor. However, this would seem to be a problem that needs to be addressed. I'm open to any other suggestions. Thanks. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 11/28/05 3:44:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hope someone can help with the following problem. I want to program a button so that the cursor changes to hand on MouseEnter and changes back to Arrow on mouseLeave. I inserted the following script (using Macintosh OS X Panther): on MouseEnter set the cursor to hand set the lockcursor to true end MouseEnter on mouseLeave set the cursor to arrow end mouseLeave While this works in the unbuilt program, once it is built the cursor show up as Watch rather than Hand on both Macintosh and Windows. Anyone have a suggestion? Thanks. RR has changed the cursor IDs a couple of times and I've lost track of what's what. In the most current version, the cursor ID for hand is 28. What happens if instead of using the constant hand you use the actual ID of 28? That is, set the cursor to 28. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constant 'Nonsense' about RR documentation
Different people learn in different ways. In my own case, it is indispensable to read through entire manuals first in a systematic way. That's the way I learned Hypercard (Danny Goodman's and Dan Shafer's books), Supercard, mTropolis, Revolution (including Dan Shafer's book), Photoshop, Illustrator, Bryce, Vue, and a whole host of other programs. I agree that once having gone through a manual, practice, repetition, and experimenting are vital to mastery of a system. Reading the manual first, though (at the very least an excellent Getting Started manual), gives the reader an idea of the sort of things that a program is capable of doing, which then allows the programmer to plan doable things. Not reading the manual results in a lot of gaps in understanding what a program can and cannot do. Thus, proper documentation is very important. The problem is not that Revolution is a bad program. To the contrary, it is a superb program, which is why I've switched to Revolution as a replacement for the now-defunct mTropolis. The problem is that it is very difficult for a novice, who has not already learned a related language (like HyperCard) to get into using Revolution without good documentation. And even with a scripting background, Revolution still needs a better description of its basic features. I've read the entire User manual. Can someone tell me, for instance, where there is any basic organized documention as to the key features of the Property Inspector, which is central to the development process? In order to survive, Revolution will need to attract new users. Proper documentation is very important to attracting new users. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with correct cursor showing up
Hope someone can help with the following problem. I want to program a button so that the cursor changes to hand on MouseEnter and changes back to Arrow on mouseLeave. I inserted the following script (using Macintosh OS X Panther): on MouseEnter set the cursor to hand set the lockcursor to true end MouseEnter on mouseLeave set the cursor to arrow end mouseLeave While this works in the unbuilt program, once it is built the cursor show up as Watch rather than Hand on both Macintosh and Windows. Anyone have a suggestion? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mTropolis refugees
Regarding mTropolis versus Revolution, I've used mTropolis for many projects. Presently all the programs in our medical publishing company have been done in mTropolis (www.medmaster.net). Since the demise of mTropolis, I've looked at other programs but have now gone to Revolution, which works on OS X, has easy Internet connectivity, and has a far more advanced scripting language. The concept of behaviors and aliasing is also a feature of Revolution, but it is done differently, referring to premade scripts that may reside, for instance, in the stack or card. To me, the ideal program would be one with mTropolis' interface, but with the power of Revolution's scripting. One of the main problems with Revolution, which I understand is being addressed now, is the still inadequate documentation for basic features of the program. mTropolis had a superb user manual. While Revolution has an excellent online dictionary that explains the meaning and usage of the various scripting terms, it still does not have an organized documentation of a number of basic features of the program, such as the property inspector, which is heavily used in the programming process. I suspect that I might not be using Revolution at all if I did not already have a significant background in Hypercard scripting, since it is so important to have the proper documentation to get started. There is a need for the beginner to have a good Getting Started manual, for both the scripting process and understanding the basic features of the program.The Revolution forum is a fantastic source of information. There are many people who are right there immediately trying to be of help, and have helped me considerably a number of times. I suspect, though, that there would be less need for questions addressed to the forum if the documentation for Revolution were better. The problem is that in order to find something, the information appears scattered with no central source for addressing many How to do it situations. While there is a user manual, it has no Index and the information is not well organized. As mentioned, I understand this is being addressed, and will be important for the program to attract new users, particularly if they have no prior experience with Hypercard, Metacard or related languages. All-in-all, Revolution is a very powerful program, easy to use in comparison with programs like C++ or Java, and is the best I've been able to find since mTropolis, which is why I've made the switch. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 11/16/05 7:52:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Janus Jakaterina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mTropolis Refugees To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Are there many mTropolis folk now residing in the land of Revolution? If so, how is Revolution for behaviors, aliasing, and messaging? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bizarre problem of disappearing pictures on reducing stack size
Yes, Jaqueline, that seems to be the problem. The missing pictures are all in the same place and same size and correct layer, but getting the imagedata of the missing images comes up empty, unlike the other images. I don't know why, but thanks for the clarification. Another mystery, sometimes the stack size came up reduced, other times (most) not. I seem to be delving into the occult arts. Chipp Walters offered another way to reduce the image and stack size with the following script: on mouseUp put the id of img 1 into tImgID flattenImage tImgID end mouseUp on flattenImage pImgID get the rect of img ID pImgID set the rect of img ID pImgID to 0,0,10,10 set the resizeQuality of img ID pImgID to best set the rect of img ID pImgID to it put the alphadata of img ID pImgID into tAD put the imagedata of img ID pImgID into tID set the alphadata of img ID pImgID to tAD set the imagedata of img ID pImgID to tID end flattenImage Setting the resizeQuality to 'best' uses bilinear interpolation for the resize, much better than the standard nearest neighbor interpolation. Once you set it to best, you need to resize it for it to take effect, thus the changing of the rect of the img. Also, this will work with transparent png's as well. I tried this but, for some reason the stack size increased rather than decreased. I must be doing something wrong since Chipp is the master. Chipp, Sarah, Jacqueline, Phil -- if you have any further suggestions, I'm listening. Thanks. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 10/4/05 7:46:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bizarre problem of disappearing pictures on reducing stack size To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, all of the arrows pictures in the stack disappeared. They would no longer appear with the command 'show image arrows' or on turning on Show Invisible Objects from the view menu. The arrows pictures could not be found, but strangely they still were listed in the Application Browser. If none of the other suggestions work, try getting the imagedata of one of the missing images. It may be that your automated script accidentally put empty into those. That would mean you still have image objects, but they contain no bitmap data. I've done that myself. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bizarre problem of disappearing pictures on reducing stack size
I've created a stack containing several hundred cards, each with a jpeg of a radiologic image. In order to test students, each x-ray is unlabeled with arrows. In order to provide a clue to the student, I've prepared a duplicate hidden picture on each card with the same picture, but with arrows pointing to key areas to look at. The duplicate picture is titled arrows and is set to be hidden, until the student clicks on a button titled hint which contains the script 'show image arrows'. In order to create the duplicate picture, I copied and immediately pasted the original picture on the same site on the card. I then opened the image editor and put in the arrows and updated the picture. I recently phrased the question to the forum as to whether it was possible to minimize the stack size, since so many of the original pictures were resized right on the card. Apparently, just resizing the images and locking the size and position on the card does not reduce the size of the stack. So, Phil Davis suggested an excellent brief way to do this through the following script: on mouseUp -- first, prevent the image from expanding when reset set the lockLoc of img myImage to true -- reset the image's data put the imageData of img myImage into tData set the imageData of img myImage to tData end mouseUp In order to try this on the entire stack, I modified the script a bit (fortunately I made a backup stack first): repeat with x = 1 to the number of cards go to card x repeat with y = 1 to the number of images if there is an image y then put the imageData of img y into tData set the imageData of img y to tData end if end repeat end repeat This indeed did significantly reduce the stack size. However, all of the arrows pictures in the stack disappeared. They would no longer appear with the command 'show image arrows' or on turning on Show Invisible Objects from the view menu. The arrows pictures could not be found, but strangely they still were listed in the Application Browser. Does anyone have any suggestion as to how to account for this? The only thing I can think of is that the original pictures can be found in the Finder. The duplicated pictures, as always, cannot. Perhaps this has something to do with it. Thanks very much. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Text doesn't show up in answer dialog box
This group has really been very helpful. I noted another problem today which I hope someone can resolve. I have created a stack with a black background. The answer dialog box I created shows up fine before the stack is built. However, once it has been built, the background of the dialog box changes to black, so the wording cannot be seen. If I change the background color of the stack to another color, say blue, the same changed color (blue) appears in the dialog box after building. Is there a way in which I can keep the black background for the stack while maintaining a readible answer box? Thanks very much. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Does resizing an image change number of bytes?
Hope someone can help with this question. If I import an image, say 1 meg, into Revolution using Import as Control and then resize it to make it smaller, does it still take up 1 meg, or does it take up less memory? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
What is Mac OS fat?
The Revolution Standalone settings offers 3 ways to save for Mac OS: Mac OS fat, Mac OS PPC, and Mac OS 68k. What is the difference between these three? Is Mac OS fat a combination of Mac OS PPC and 68k? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Do multiple substacks slow down a program?
So far I'm running close to 100% success with advice received from this forum and am very grateful for that. One more question: I'm planning a program that uses one or more substacks. The question is whether to place all the key data into one substack or to divide them into 2 or more substacks. One the one hand, dividing into separate stacks keeps everything neatly arranged. However, does it slow down the speed of a program if scripting commands go from one substack to another, as opposed to remaining confined to one substack? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Program bar at bottom of Windows screen is blank
Hopefully someone can help with the following question. A created a Rev program using Mac and built a standalone for Windows. The program resides in a folder. On Windows, the name of the folder shows up in the program bar at the bottom of the screen, as it should. However, on opening the (.exe) program the name of the the .exe program is blank in the program bar. One user has mentioned that this could confuse people into thinking spyware or a virus is operating. The name of the program did not display in the Task Manager either. If anyone is interested in seeing the program it is available as a free download from www.medmaster.net. The program name is MedSearcher. It is the first Revolution program that I have published. It's designed to allow users to quickly search any of the major medical search engines. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to enable the name of the .exe file to show up in the program bar? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can a substack icon in a standalone be rend ered invisible?
Hi Chipp, Thanks for the suggestion. However, where can I obtain documentation about how to set up libraries or special biz logic windows in order to save data in that way, instead of including a substack in the standalone? Thanks. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 8/17/05 11:06:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can a substack icon in a standalone be rendered invisible? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Steve, If I were you, I'd just not include the subStack in the Standalone build process, then just open it when you need if from your standalone. I never use the 'put substacks in separate folders' feature of standalone builder. My substacks are always either libraries, or special biz logic windows, never data storage stacks. IMO, it's important to keep content and biz logic separate, which is about 180 degrees off of what standard card based stack databases do. When you mix them both, you risk a whole new level of possible bugs which can be introduced. You can always get the filepath to the standalone by using the address function. best, Chipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again I'd like to approach the great minds on the Revolution forum. Hopefully, someone can offer a suggestion for the following issue: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I used Revolution in Mac OS X to create a standalone in which I'd like the user to be able to save data. Since standalone's do not normally save data, I included a substack and checked off the Move substacks into individual stackfiles checkbox in the File Standalone settings. This works fine, except that the standalones for Windows and for Mac OS 9 show the substack on the hard drive. (The standalone for OS X is no problem since it is built as a single icon) I'm concerned that the presence of two icons on Windows and OS 9 may confuse the user, since it may not be obvious which icon to click on, the mainstack icon or the substack icon. Is there a way in which the substack icon can be made invisible in both the Windows and OS 9 versions? I tried putting the substack in a separate folder by checking off the Create folder for stackfiles option in the Standalone Application Settings, to get the substack out of view. Also, I renamed the substack to something utterly boring that would not induce the reader to click on it. (I tried checking off the Rename stackfiles generically option but this caused an error message in trying to save as a standalone). It would be nice if the substack icon could just be invisible. Is this possible? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can a substack icon in a standalone be rendered invisible?
Once again I'd like to approach the great minds on the Revolution forum. Hopefully, someone can offer a suggestion for the following issue: I used Revolution in Mac OS X to create a standalone in which I'd like the user to be able to save data. Since standalone's do not normally save data, I included a substack and checked off the Move substacks into individual stackfiles checkbox in the File Standalone settings. This works fine, except that the standalones for Windows and for Mac OS 9 show the substack on the hard drive. (The standalone for OS X is no problem since it is built as a single icon) I'm concerned that the presence of two icons on Windows and OS 9 may confuse the user, since it may not be obvious which icon to click on, the mainstack icon or the substack icon. Is there a way in which the substack icon can be made invisible in both the Windows and OS 9 versions? I tried putting the substack in a separate folder by checking off the Create folder for stackfiles option in the Standalone Application Settings, to get the substack out of view. Also, I renamed the substack to something utterly boring that would not induce the reader to click on it. (I tried checking off the Rename stackfiles generically option but this caused an error message in trying to save as a standalone). It would be nice if the substack icon could just be invisible. Is this possible? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem: Stack unexpectedly resizes itself
I've created a stack (using Mac OS X, Revolution 2.5.1, Panther) with dimensions of 1024x768 with the expectation that it will fit on a screen with resolution of 1024x768. However, when moving the stack (built as standalone or as unbuilt stack) to another Mac with 1024x768 screen resolution, the program opens up with different dimensions (1004x647), with the right hand side and bottom of the stack cut off. It does this whether I open up the unbuilt stack or the standalone. Is this a bug with Revolution or a problem with Apple? Thanks. Stephen Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rant Re Rev Documentation
Hi Sarah, I appreciate your comment about different learning styles. In my own case, I prefer to read a manual cover to cover to gain a more complete understanding. While I have started to use Revolution quite a lot, and am more impressed with it every day, I don't think I would be using it had I not already had some experience with Hypercard. For some people, myself included, it is just not sufficient trying to learn initially from scattered comments in a forum or in tutorial stacks, as excellent as they might be; there needs to be a much more linear pathway for the initial learning experience. For HyperCard, reading Danny Goodman's book was the way for me. One of the frustrations I have with Revolution, for instance, is that I have still not seen an adequate overview of the features of the Property Inspector. This is such a basic part of Revolution that one would think this would be a primary focus of attention in the documentation. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 7/24/05 10:56:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I realize that there are many different learning styles (there are people on this list far more qualified to talk about that than I am), but I just wanted to let you know that it IS possible to learn Revolution from the available material. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to place the window in the center of the screen?
Placing the window in the middle of the screen is a simple script: on openstack set the loc of this stack to the screenloc end openstack Stephen Goldberg From: Ban Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: place the window in the middle of screen? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com =20 Hello, =20 How to place the window in the center of the screen?=A0 Please help =20 =20 =20 HTMLFONT FACE=3Darial,helveticaHTMLFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGen= eva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D2Placing the window in the middle of the= screen is a simple script:BR BR on openstackBR set the loc of this stack to the screenlocBR end openstackBR BR Stephen GoldbergBR BR BR BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE=3DBORDER-LEFT: #ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20= MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px TYPE=3DCITE/FONTFONT COLOR=3D#0= 0 FACE=3DGeneva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D2From: Ban Nguyen l= t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;BR Subject: place the window in the middle of screen?BR To: How to use Revolution lt;use-revolution@lists.runrev.comBR BR Hello,BR BR How to place the window in the center of the screen?=A0 Please helpBR BR BR /BLOCKQUOTE/FONTFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGeneva FAMILY=3DSANSSE= RIF SIZE=3D2BR BR /FONTFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGeneva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D= 2/FONT/HTML ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Question about connecting to the Internet
Perhaps someone can help with the following question: Is it possible for Revolution, after clicking on a word, to connect to the Internet (Google e.g.) and automatically paste in the word into Google's search field? Connecting to the Internet is easy (RevGoUrl http://www.google.com;). And I can also direct Revolution to copy the word first so that the user can then paste the word into Google's search field once the Google page is opened. However, is it possible to do all this automatically, i.e. after clicking on the word, the user is taken directly to Google where the word is automatically pasted in? Thanks. This forum has been very helpful. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with saving standalone
I have a stack I'm working on, which when I want to save as a standalone (for either Mac or Windows) comes up with the message There was an error saving the standalone application. I can't figure out why, since other stacks save easily as standalones. I'm using Mac OS X (Panther). There are about 135 cards in the stack, with only one small graphic and scripting that isn't especially fancy. Can anyone suggest what might be wrong and how I might go about correcting this? Thanks very much. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Question about connecting to the Internet
Thanks Eric! This is a great convenience and should prove very useful to educators who want to enable their students to connect directly to Internet searches without intermediate steps. This forum is great! Steve Goldberg In a message dated 6/3/05 12:43:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:25:17 +0200 From: Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question about connecting to the Internet To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Steve, It's quite easy: revGoUrl http://www.google.com/search?q=; urlEncode(tWord) The process is very simple: you do it into your web browser and you build the right string in Rev. You will use another strings a bit different depending on the engines :-) Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 3 juin 05 à 17:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Perhaps someone can help with the following question: Is it possible for Revolution, after clicking on a word, to connect to the Internet (Google e.g.) and automatically paste in the word into Google's search field? Connecting to the Internet is easy (RevGoUrl http://www.google.com;). And I can also direct Revolution to copy the word first so that the user can then paste the word into Google's search field once the Google page is opened. However, is it possible to do all this automatically, i.e. after clicking on the word, the user is taken directly to Google where the word is automatically pasted in? Thanks. This forum has been very helpful. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with saving standalone
Thanks Jacqueline, Your suggestion worked immediately and there was no difficulty saving the standalone as soon as I turned off Search for required inclusions and turned on Select inclusions for the standalone. I'm impressed with the great talent in the forum. Thanks. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 6/3/05 2:31:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 6/3/05 10:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a stack I'm working on, which when I want to save as a standalone (for either Mac or Windows) comes up with the message There was an error saving the standalone application. I can't figure out why, since other stacks save easily as standalones. I've been collecting a list of possible causes. Check these things: 1. The path to the stack contains non-ASCII characters, such as diacritical marks or accent marks. Avoid the use of accented or non-ASCII characters in path names. 2. The standalone builder is set to search for inclusions but the stack is password protected. Select the inclusions manually instead, or remove the password. 3. Alternately, the standalone builder may be having trouble searching for the required inclusions regardless of password protection. Turn off Search for required inclusions and turn on Select inclusions for the standalone application. Then choose the resources you need to include yourself in the Standalone Settings dialog. 4. The folder name is the same as your standalone's name. You need a unique folder name; make sure you select an empty folder with a name different from the standalone's name. If you have previously built a standalone from the same stack, do not try to build a new one into the same folder. Trying to overwrite an existing standalone with a new one can casue problems. Rename or remove the old folder first, and then build. 5. Your source stack's file name does not use an extension, or uses an incorrect extension. Make sure your stack's file name ends with the extension .rev 6. Your source stack contains duplicate message box or ask or answer dialogs. Remove the embedded stacks and let the standalone builder add them instead. (This usually only occurs with stacks originally created in MetaCard.) Make sure you have done Check for updates to be sure you have the most recent version of the standalone settings stack. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can one manually resize an object proportionately?
Thanks, Malte for your suggestions. However, in this case what I am suggesting is that rather than having to type in numbers to resize an object proportionately, there needs to be some way to do this manually, such as holding down the Shift key while doing the resizing (like in Photoshop), which I don't see is a feature of Revolution. In that way, one can do the resizing on the fly, eyeballing whether or not the object is the right size for the card, rather than having to experiment with different numbers until the size seems right. So if anyone has way of doing this, I'd certainly like to hear about it. Thanks. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 4/10/05 12:23:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: # Can one manually resize an object proportionately? To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Steve, Although one can go into the Revolution property inspector and do some calculation to resize an object proportionately, e.g. to say 1/3 the size, when trying to do this manually I do not see a way to control the resizing proportionately. You can easiely write a function to do it and do your resizing with the messageBox. If you like to take a look at libRMC (a small Multimedia Library I wrote) you can save a bit of work. :-) You will need to put the stack in the messagepath (start using stack libRMC) If you want to find out what other features it offers type libRMCInfo into the messagebox. From the docs: aspectScale left,top,right,bottom[,setLockLoc] set the aspectScale of img myImage to 100,100,400,400,true set the aspectScale of fld myField to the rect of grc myGraphic setting the aspectScale of a control scales it in the correct width-to-height ratio to the biggest dimensions possible to fit in the specified rectangle. you can specify if the lockLoc of the control should be set to avoid unwanted resizing when closing/reopening cards. You find the library here: http://www.derbrill.de/librmc/libRMC.rev.zip The docs: http://www.derbrill.de/librmc/docs.pdf Cheers, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Does it save disk space using a grouped image as a background?
If an image is going to appear on many cards and one wants to save disc space, I found the advice very useful from the forum to use the image as an icon. I was wondering whether or not it may also save disc space to group the image and set it to act as a background. For instance if I have an image that I'd like to use as a button to appear on many cards, if I set it to act as a background, will it use less disc space than if I did not set it to act as a background? Or would I need to import it as a referenced control in order to conserve disk space? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Suggestions for a new Revolution User Guide
As a new Revolution user (former HyperCard/mTropolis user) and having read through the User Manual and Dan Shafer's book, I find the program very powerful and useful. However, I'd like to make the following suggestions toward producing a new User Guide, and which I think would better attract new users. There are important basic features in the present user interface that seem to be inadequately documented even for those with a programming background, let alone those totally new to programming. I suspect Revolution may turn off new potiential users unless certain changes are made to the documentation. My suggestions toward a new manual are as follows: 1. Eliminate the printed Transcript Language reference guide. It is duplicated in a much more efficient manner in the onscreen Reference Documentation window. 2. Eliminate the How To section in the printed User Guide. Much of this is already in the Topics section of onscreen Reference Documentation which can be beefed up to include all of the How To topics. 3. Instead, have a single, smaller user manual organized so there is: A. A new friendly introductory chapter describing the general features of Revolution. As is, the manual is not very user-friendly to newbees. One has to go through some 55 pages before getting to a section called About Revolution for new developers. These first 55 pages could largely be placed in an Appendix, so that someone totally new to programming does not have to wade through it. B. There needs to be a systematic explanation of the various windows in Revolution, in particular the Inspector and message box windows, which are not presently well documented. The reader should be taken through each checkbox and menu item in the inspector and message box windows. The Tools window also does not seem well-documented in any one place (Where is there an explanation as to how to make proper use of the slider, progress bar, little arrows and scrollbar items, and the drawing tools?) One can find scattered information but it does not seem well-organized in any one place. C. There should be a systematic explanation of the main top menubar, including all the features of the Standalone Application Settings part of the File menu, which presently is not well documented. Thus the Menus section of the present User Manual should be upgraded. D. There should be a brief overall chapter on Revolution scripting. It need not be extremely detailed. Details can be obtained in the already excellent Dictionary in the Reference Documentation Window. Also, when Dan Shafer completes his book (I still remember reading through and using his excellent book on HyperCard scripting some years ago) it should be very valuable in pointing out and elaborating on the more advanced and useful things that scripting can do. E. I'd keep the Shortcuts and Troubleshooting parts of the present User Manual. The Glossary terms don't have to be listed over 12 pages in the Index. It is sufficient to have them just listed in the Glossary, which could actually be eliminated in favor of simply putting a Glossary on disc as part of the Reference Documentation. In general it is easier to read short segments of text on a computer than long paragraphs of text, so the short segments (Topics, Dictionary, Objects, Glossary) would fit well being placed on-screen, while longer explanations would fit better in a book. (By the way, I have been writing, editing and publishing medical books and CDs for the past 25 years, at www.medmaster.net, and am used to evaluating which forms of communication fit better in a book and which on CD). With a single, short, well-documented, organized manual it would be easier to attract new users. I'd be happy to help write (or edit) one myself at no charge, if the current developers are interested, since I am so impressed with the potential for Revolution, but first I'd have to fully understand all the features myself. So far, I've found this forum a great avenue for communication. I'm looking forward to the conference at Monterey. Steve Goldberg www.medmaster.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Suggestions for a new Revolution User Guide
This is an addendum to my previous note also listed today. I erred in referring to the current Glossary terms being listed in the Index. Rather they currently are listed, of course, in the Table of Contents, and as mentioned, the Glossary terms do not need to be duplicated in the Table of Contents. It is sufficient to list them in the Glossary itself. Also, as has been pointed out in previous forum discussions, the book needs an Index as well. Otherwise it is difficult to find what one is looking for. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
